From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V3 #208 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, August 21 1998 Volume 03 : Number 208 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Pictures of Jerry Hall [dawndalion Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pictures of Jerry Hall Hey Gang... Strange, isn't it, how many of us are fascinated by Jerry Hall. At least I am fascinated, but my adoration for Jerry began long before I kow who Bryan Ferry was, or that they had a relationship. She is such a BABE... Anyway, Jerry is featured with her daughter Elizabeth in the People Weekly August 10th... The feature was entitled, Mother's Little Helper (Stones fans understand this one, right)....It showed a photo of Jerry and Elizabeth Scarlett Jagger, age 14, modeling on the Catwalk for a Thierry Mugler show in Paris. Jerry looked fabulous, sexy and very hot, despite the hideous outfit thta she was wearing... and Elizabeth is quite the Siren even now, with that gorgeous long hair....Definitely her Mother's Daughter. That is my news for the day.... Regards, Dawne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 22:57:29 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Sticks asn Stones...... In a message dated 98-08-20 05:12:56 EDT, you write: << I noticed you have whittled it down from the last 20 years to the last 15 years. What's next? Will you say "My comments were ....inappropriate ......they were ....wrong! >> No, I won't pull a Clinton on you. I'll defend my 20 years statement. So far, I've had my memory jogged to remember "Undercover of the Night", "Emotional Rescue" and "Start Me Up" as good songs for these last TWO DECADES. That's half a side of a greatest hits LP. I need something more than that to consider their output worthy of more than a nostalgia trip. Arnie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 03:02:47 -0400 From: jspellma@techadvisers.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Sticks asn Stones...... In a message dated 98-08-20 05:12:56 EDT, you write: << I noticed you have whittled it down from the last 20 years to the last 15 years. What's next? Will you say "My comments were ....inappropriate ......they were ....wrong! >> >No, I won't pull a Clinton on you. I'll defend my 20 years statement. So far, >I've had my memory jogged to remember "Undercover of the Night", "Emotional >Rescue" and "Start Me Up" as good songs for these last TWO DECADES. That's >half a side of a greatest hits LP. I need something more than that to consider >their output worthy of more than a nostalgia trip. >Arnie I feel about Clapton as you do about Stones. I lost interest in him around 1978. I'd rather listen to "Tales of Brave Ulysses" or "SWLABR" instead of "Forever Man", but I can separate my personal taste with the reality of his contributions. If your not convinced with the songs I mentioned (and I'm sure I missed some) then you may never see it differently. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 00:53:16 -0700 From: erik simpson Subject: [AVALON] Velvet goldmine news at ATN Hi; More news on the Velvet Goldmine ST at ATN. Go to "http://www.addict.com/MNOTW". Here's a (lengthy) quote; It didn't take much to convince former Minutemen/fIREHOSE bassist Mike Watt to agree to contribute to the Velvet Goldmine soundtrack. Playing as one of the members of the fictitious glam supergroup the Wylde Ratttz, Watt is one of an impressive list of artists whose music either appears on the soundtrack or in the film "Velvet Goldmine" -- the story of the sex-and drug-crazed '70s glam-rock music world as portrayed by imaginary groups such as Ratttz, an Iggy Pop-type rock band. Band members in the Wylde Ratttz mirror the life of familiar glam stars. "I think Ron is still Ron -- I don't think he's changed much," Watt said of former Iggy and the Stooges guitarist Ron Asheton. Asheton plays on the soundtrack as one of the Ratttz, along with Mudhoney singer Mark Arm, producer/guitarist Don Fleming and Sonic Youth guitarist Thurston Moore and drummer Steve Shelley. "We're like the children of his tunes. Now he gets to play them with us. In a way it was a full-circle kind of thing." The Ratttz are but one sham-glam band to take centerstage in "Velvet Goldmine," the long-awaited glam tribute due to hit theaters in November. It stars "Trainspotting" lead Ewan McGregor as the Iggy Pop-like American rocker "Curt Wild" and Jonathan Rhys Meyers ("The Governess") as "Brian Slade," a character based on Roxy Music leader Brian Ferry. The forthcoming film -- which also features Toni Colette ("Muriel's Wedding") as Slade's wife -- was executive produced by R.E.M. singer Michael Stipe and written and directed by indie auteur Todd Haynes ("Safe"). "The movie's about how Bowie got his whole glam trip from coming to America and seeing the Stooges and Lou Reed," (Mike) Watt said earlier this year after recording tracks for the film's CD. "We were going to be the music of that sound that Bowie came to hear. We were the ones who inherited a lot of their legacy. Obviously, they were on the punk-rock tip way before these English guys started dressing like [Television's] Richard Hell." The film's production notes have a more subdued, carefully crafted description of the film: " 'Velvet Goldmine' is set mainly in London in the early '70s during the emergence of the glam-rock scene," the notes read, "when to be part of the 'in crowd' you had to be wild, reckless and self-absorbed. Drugs and sex were indulged in to excess, and hedonistic pleasure was the order of the day." The notes explain that the film attempts to mirror the structure of legendary director Orson Welles' 1941 film "Citizen Kane," using a faked death at its outset to launch a reporter's "inquiry into a man's [Slade's] life by tracking down those who knew him." Along with the illustrious company Watt kept while recording cuts for the soundtrack -- which includes a cover of the Stooges' "T.V. Eye" and a new tune penned by Arm and Asheton called "My Unclean," both with vocals by McGregor -- the soundtrack features contributions from a second fictitious supergroup, dubbed the Venus In Furs-- a takeoff on the infamous Velvet Underground S&M-themed song of the same name. Soundtrack players for that sham-glam group include Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood of Radiohead, former Suede guitarist Bernard Butler, Roxy Music sax player Andy Mackay and former Grant Lee Buffalo bassist Paul Kimble performing songs by Roxy Music with vocals by Rhys Meyers, Yorke and Kimble. Producer Don Fleming (Teenage Fanclub, Sonic Youth) recorded nearly an album's worth of new and classic Stooges songs for the film almost a year ago in New York. "I knew that [Asheton] was writing a lot because a year ago there was a lot of talk about a Stooges reunion ... and in the meantime, he was writing a lot of Stooges-type stuff," Fleming said. "So, to me that was the natural thing, if you want it to sound like the Stooges, get Ron Asheton, because he wrote all the songs and he wrote most all the music on the first two albums. After that it was all very easy to get the band together." In true Stooges fashion, Fleming said none of the hired hands had learned the tunes beforehand, but because they were so into it, the songs were recorded in only two to three takes each. "Everything was recorded live, because that's what they wanted for the movie since most of it is for live stage scenes," Fleming said. Both Watt and Shelley said the intense sessions brought out a long-hidden side of SY guitarist Moore. "It was trippy to see [Moore] play more straight rock," Watt said, describing how Moore spent a lot of the sessions sitting across from Asheton and studying his technique. "It was just a blast to be in the same room as Ron Asheton blaring his guitar out of his amp," Shelley said. "He sounded better than those Stooges records that we've all played over and over again. It was fun to do something with hard rock -- it's such an archaic rock expression ... and play with a loud, noisy band in that manner, it's very different from what we do." The movie will feature a heavy dose of glammy music, not all of which will appear on the film's soundtrack. Songs tentatively slated for the soundtrack include: "Needle In The Camel's Eye" (Brian Eno); "Hot One" (Shudder To Think); "T.V. Eye" (the Wylde Ratttz, vocals by Ewan McGregor); "Ballad Of Maxwell Demon" (Shudder To Think, vocals by Jonathan Rhys Meyers); "The Whole Shebang" (Grant Lee Buffalo); "Ladytron" (the Venus In Furs, vocals by Thom Yorke); "Cosmic Dancer" (T. Rex); "We Are The Boys" (Pulp); "Virginia Plain" (Roxy Music); "Personality Crisis" (Teenage Fanclub and Elastica's Donna Matthews); "Satellite Of Love" (Lou Reed); "Baby's On Fire" (the Venus In Furs, vocals by Rhys Meyers); "Bitter-Sweet" (the Venus In Furs, vocals by Yorke); "20th Century Boy" (Placebo); "2HB" (the Venus In Furs, vocals by Yorke); and "Make Me Smile (Come Up and See Me)" (Steve Harley). Other songs chosen or recorded for the film are: "People Rockin' People" (Nathan Larson); "Avenging Annie" (Andy Pratt); " 'Cuz I Love You" (Slade); "The Fat Lady of Limbourg" (Brian Eno); "A Little of What You Fancy Does You Good" (Lindsay Kemp); "Do You Want To Touch Me? (Oh Yeah)" (Gary Glitter); "Tutti Frutti" (Callum Hamilton); "Band Of Gold" (Fredda Payne); "2HB" (the Venus In Furs, vocals by Paul Kimble); "Sebastian" (the Venus In Furs, vocals by Rhys Meyers); "Symphonie No. 6 in A Minor" (the Czech Philharmonic Orchestra); "Get In The Groove" (the Mighty Hannibal); "Diamond Meadows" (T. Rex); "Bitter's End" (Paul Kimble); "My Unclean" (the Wylde Ratttz, vocals by McGregor); "Dead Friends Don't Talk" (Brian Eno); "Gimme Danger" (the Venus In Furs, vocals by McGregor); and "Tumbling Down" (the Venus In Furs, vocals by Rhys Meyers). Erik S ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V3 #208 **************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to avalon-digest-owner@smoe.org