From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V3 #115 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, May 13 1998 Volume 03 : Number 115 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... [ASchulberg ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... [oolala ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... [ASchulberg ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... [Heather Marie P] [AVALON] back to music [David Volz ] [AVALON] Roxy Music: Official Home Page :-( [Bahi Para ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... [Dawndalian ] Re: [AVALON] back to music [Dawndalian ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... [Dawndalian Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... In a message dated 98-05-09 00:32:19 EDT, you write: << Clearly this guy has flare.. >> Stand back, you'll be severely burned. Maybe he has flair? G, a collij edukashon ain't wot is ust to b. Arnie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:08:13 EDT From: Dawndalian Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... A, Maybe it Wasn't a typo or MissSpell...What an egregious error on my part!! And even if it was, try These letters on... BFD Dawne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:40:36 -0400 From: James Spellman Subject: [AVALON] Jerry Hall Re: She is not looking good at all, poor dear. Having babies at 41 is pretty hard. Colleen This kind of urked me. Having babies at any age is "pretty hard". Having one at 40+ is amazing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 07:37:54 From: oolala Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... At 10:08 AM 5.12.98 EDT, you wrote: >And even if it was, try These letters on... > > BFD hmmmm.... bryan ferry dissed? nah... big fishy drama? nope... bogus fart dream? hmmm... ...i don't get it... couldja spell it out for us? :) - - oola/rose. - -------------------------------------- http://www.angelfire.com/ut/oola - -------------------------------------- ICQ UIN #4740929 - -------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:01:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... Hey Dawndelian-y! Well, unfortunately the list has gotten boring again, hasn't it? Yawn! I'm on one other list, the Pulp mailing list (Pulp is a new British band, kind of along the lines of Radiohead or Oasis. They've been compared to Roxy Music more than once), which gets LOADS of postings. The problem (for me) is that it's mainly 16 and 17-year old talking about thier boyfriends/girlfriends, how they dream abut the lead singer of Pulp (Jarvis Cocker - well that I can relate to) and how they feel old because *sob* they're turning 21 next week! Well, as you can imagine I can't relate to them TOO much, being 28 as I am, so mainly I'm just a lurker. But on the other hand, some of the things they come up with are quite amusing (like comparing each member of the band to a different animal) and they're SOOO enthusiastic about Pulp, practically everyone's got an "I love Pulp" site. So it's kind of fun being around these teenyboppers and seeing what they'll do next. New Subject - I'm hoping to begin having children in the next year or so (we get married in summer, '99 and I want to do it as soon as possible afterward). Of course, I'm wondering how my life's going to change after I do, and since you mentioned you have children, I thought you'd be the perfect one to ask! Here's the deal, I'm really paranoid that I'm never going to get to see them at all, or have a normal life. I would love to just stay at home after having kids, but am sure I'll need to go back to work. Yet, I'd like to stay at home as long as possible. How long were you able to stay at home? And then once I'm working again, (I hate to ask this because I feel like it sounds totally selfish) but what can I expect my evenings to be like? Will I ever get time to wash my hair or exercise? (god I feel terrible for asking that - I mean I'm still going to have them even if it turns out I can't wash my hair) But in your case, how much of the work does your husband do and what is a fair amount to expect the man to do? Well, those are my thoughts for today. Ciao, Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:07:17 From: oolala Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry new mommy Scenario wow... since this is posted publicly, can i take the liberty of REPLYing publicly? :) At 01:01 PM 5.12.98 -0500, you wrote: >Hey Dawndelian-y! >New Subject - I would love to >just stay at home after having kids, but am sure I'll need to go back to >work. Yet, I'd like to stay at home as long as possible. How long were you >able to stay at home? you can stay at home for the entire duration of their childhood. the wonders of homeschool and a stay-at-home job could and (imho) should take care of that. i homeschooled my kids for many years (and worked out of my home) - ensuring they had an intellectual edge. many colleges and universities welcome homeschooled people without question because they've had the discipline and attention - and that "edge" they wouldn't normally obtain in a public school environment. >And then once I'm working again, (I hate to ask this >because I feel like it sounds totally selfish) but what can I expect my >evenings to be like? Will I ever get time to wash my hair or exercise? >(god I feel terrible for asking that - I mean I'm still going to have >them even if it turns out I can't wash my hair) lol - this is the problem i had with my first. you have to TAKE the time to wash your hair, etc. yes, let the baby cry - i even placed mine in her carrier next to the vanity in the bathroom to make sure she was safe and didn't aspirate or anything, but i had to learn right from the start to take the time for myself. if you don't you set a precedence of self-sacrifice that can really take a toll on your relationship with your with them in the future. no, being a giving parent is not a bad thing, but teaching them that you'll come running every time they howl is! :) >But in your case, how much of the work does your husband do and what is a fair >amount to expect the man to do? well! um... don't "expect" anything from the dear boy. sad, but it's true. you'll find yourself praising every tiny task he does - such as emptying out the diaper pail or warming the baby's bottle (hot water - NO microwave, please!). this is the time when your husband becomes the child - so praise and pat him on the shoulder and tell him how wonderful he is for not hurling over the poopie diaper. >Well, those are my thoughts for today. ah, new motherhood... i wouldn't go back there for the world! lol - - rose - -------------------------------------- http://www.angelfire.com/ut/oola - -------------------------------------- ICQ UIN #4740929 - -------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:33:25 EDT From: ASchulberg Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... In a message dated 98-05-12 10:20:41 EDT, you write: << A, Maybe it Wasn't a typo or MissSpell...What an egregious error on my part!! And even if it was, try These letters on... BFD >> I'm concerned that you and Heather are overheating and about to send this list into alt.sex.stories turf. Arnie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:39:46 EDT From: ASchulberg Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... In a message dated 98-05-12 14:14:08 EDT, the wondering Heather wrote: << New Subject - I'm hoping to begin having children in the next year or so (we get married in summer, '99 and I want to do it as soon as possible afterward). Of course, I'm wondering how my life's going to change after I do, and since you mentioned you have children, I thought you'd be the perfect one to ask! Here's the deal, I'm really paranoid that I'm never going to get to see them at all, or have a normal life. I would love to just stay at home after having kids, but am sure I'll need to go back to work. Yet, I'd like to stay at home as long as possible. How long were you able to stay at home? And then once I'm working again, (I hate to ask this because I feel like it sounds totally selfish) but what can I expect my evenings to be like? Will I ever get time to wash my hair or exercise? (god I feel terrible for asking that - I mean I'm still going to have them even if it turns out I can't wash my hair) But in your case, how much of the work does your husband do and what is a fair amount to expect the man to do?>> Now, THIS is really Ferry/Roxy stuff, eh, guys? Shall we all chip in and also ask BF (yes, Bryan Folks) for his $0.02? Maybe he could write a song on the subject, after all our main man's got 4 boys. No doubt he and Lucy could deign to answer. I will say this: Heather, it changes your life like nothing else. Kids are wonderful and I love mine but make sure you and your man have some married alone time first. Solidify the marriage before you bring someone else onto the scene. Now, take it somewhere else, okay? Arnie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 15:54:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: [AVALON] baby message You guys can all just ignore that baby message. I didn't mean to post it to the group. My finger slipped. Whoops! Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 15:55:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... We all appreciate your concern, Arnie. But where's your contest entry? Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop On Tue, 12 May 1998, ASchulberg wrote: > In a message dated 98-05-12 10:20:41 EDT, you write: > > << A, > Maybe it Wasn't a typo or MissSpell...What an egregious error on my part!! > And even if it was, try These letters on... > > BFD > >> > > I'm concerned that you and Heather are overheating and about to send this list > into alt.sex.stories turf. > > Arnie > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:08:34 -0400 From: David Volz Subject: [AVALON] back to music I've read the discussions concerning favorite songs, least liked, etc. How about the best loved 'second-tier' songs? That is, personal favorites that don't really rank up there with the Avalons and the Virginia Plains but somehow strike a chord in your soul? With that set-up, I nominate Whirlwind from the Siren album. For its few brief moments on the radio in Detroit back in the late 70's, it reminds me of carefree, partying, high school days. It's still one of those songs that makes me smile when I hear it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 23:48:23 +0200 From: Bahi Para Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music: Official Home Page :-( http://www.roxymusic.com Have you visited? If you haven't, don't get too excited. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:58:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] back to music > > With that set-up, I nominate Whirlwind from the Siren album. For its few > brief moments on the radio in Detroit back in the late 70's, it reminds me > of carefree, partying, high school days. It's still one of those songs > that makes me smile when I hear it. > "Whirlwind" is certainly a first-rate song. But it reminds me of something different - cruising around the French mediterranean in a large catamaran, wearing white, with a glass of Perrier-Jouet perched between my knees.> > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:53:35 +0300 From: "Michael Hillman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] back to music Hmm....Whirwind is a bit of a rough song in my humble estimation...I rather like Sentimental Fool and She Sells as the best two on Siren Mind you I never really experienced "carefree partying high school days" so perhaps that's why... And Heather wishing you much hapiness with your intended children...are you going to call them names like Bryan, Lucy, Otis, Tara, Isaac, Merlin, or even Charles, Mary or JERRY???!!! Or perhaps even "Roxy" (Kim Wilde has a sister with that name) Byee Michael - ---------- > From: Heather Marie Propes > To: David Volz > Cc: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] back to music > Date: 13 May 1998 00.58 > > > > > With that set-up, I nominate Whirlwind from the Siren album. For its few > > brief moments on the radio in Detroit back in the late 70's, it reminds me > > of carefree, partying, high school days. It's still one of those songs > > that makes me smile when I hear it. > > > "Whirlwind" is certainly a first-rate song. But it reminds me of > something different - cruising around the French mediterranean in a large > catamaran, wearing white, with a glass of Perrier-Jouet perched between my > knees.> > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:18:17 EDT From: Dawndalian Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... Arnie... Concerned?? I havent' even got to the Good Stuff yet,..... A night at the Parthenon is still being composed.... Besides, it is a lot more fun.... Dawne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:26:33 EDT From: Dawndalian Subject: Re: [AVALON] back to music Heather! I did not know you UCLA girls knew anything about Good Champagne..... I LOVE f the scenario.....is it True To Life, girl??? I can't tell you all what Whirlwind brings back for memories for me.... it is Way too Intense... One word... Passion. Dawne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:24:08 EDT From: Dawndalian Subject: Re: [AVALON] back to music David.... real quick, I really started diggin' on the Siren CD... despite the Fact it has been sitting on my CD shelf for 11 YEARS! What an embarassing admission, but it is true.,.. And I dig and nominate Both Ends Burning. and for Bryan Ferry Solo, How bout, Love Me Madly Again???? That song Rocks!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:21:29 EDT From: Dawndalian Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... About the Kids Stuff and Arnie's comments...Arnie was..... Succinct, and to the point. He was completely Right, and since we are all being Honest Here, I had a child 9 months affter getting married.,.... I love my sons more than my own life, and I am beyond belief happy that they are here, but I wish I would have waited..... It was sorta crazed not to have together time...More later, Privately, k? Dawne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:56:56 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] back to music - -----Original Message----- From: David Volz To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, May 12, 1998 4:39 PM Subject: [AVALON] back to music >I've read the discussions concerning favorite songs, least liked, etc. How >about the best loved 'second-tier' songs? That is, personal favorites that >don't really rank up there with the Avalons and the Virginia Plains but >somehow strike a chord in your soul? > >With that set-up, I nominate Whirlwind from the Siren album. even before i read this far i had already picked 'whirlwind.' of course one man's second tier song is another's all time fave, esp. in the US where roxy/ferry have had virtually no hits, but i nominate also: 'just like you' 'this island earth' 'a really good time' 'she sells' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 21:14:00 -0700 From: Rex Estorffe Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Music: Official Home Page :-( Bahi Para wrote: > > http://www.roxymusic.com > > Have you visited? If you haven't, don't get too excited. This list is about as close to our hero as Dawn & Heather prattling about having babies, at least i 'milked 'our friend out of some good info.as where Bryan resides, Fittleworth,Sussex, home of artists !according to Gil on a Alta Vista search, but no more than that/this ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V3 #115 **************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to avalon-digest-owner@smoe.org