From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V3 #112 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, May 10 1998 Volume 03 : Number 112 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Any fans of Mark Hollis here? [steve ] Re: [AVALON] Any fans of Mark Hollis here? [Frank and Liz Smith ] Re: [AVALON] Contest #79: Who Is Michael Hillman... ["Michael Hillman" ] Re: [AVALON] Any fans of Mark Hollis here? ["Michael Hillman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Any fans of Mark Hollis here? At 05:02 PM 5/8/98 -0400, you wrote: >Hello Gentle-Listmembers; > >It was a minor thread on the David Sylvian List, although I don't recall >it being mentioned here on the Avalon List.. are there any fans of the >new CD from Mark Hollis (the former lead man of Talk Talk) here? >Terribly brooding, but sooo wonderful in its 'composition' and >'execution.' > > > >"And yet I'll gaze the colour of spring" >- Mark Hollis > Greg, I actually brought up Hollis and Talk Talk a couple of months ago on this list but did not get much response. I am a huge fan of not only the Hollis cd, But of the last three (Colour of Spring, Spirit of Eden, Laughingstock) Talk Talk releases as well. There are a couple of wonderfull Talk Talk sites on the web at http//users.cybercity.dk/~bcc11425 and http//home.earthlink.net/~landrvr/index.html I am not sure how to create links on my email (I know that is lame-sorry)-but I would highly reccomend all list members check out those web sites and the Hollis and Talk Talk cd's.....You might just end up with another "favorite " artist! > Steve > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 07:29:26 -0700 From: Frank and Liz Smith Subject: Re: [AVALON] Any fans of Mark Hollis here? Unrelated: does anyone have any idea when the next Ferry album is to released!!!! And what about a tour? Frank ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 10:26:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... Hey Dawne, you've got it! I like the Greek setting. Somehow I'd always associated Greece with Avalon. That album has a very "Mediterranean" feeling for me - reminds me of sailing around the islands in the Aegaen, seeing ruins, you know, or maybe some place in Northern Africa, maybe Morocco. OK. Anyway, your characterization of Ferry's "everyday" attire is wonderful. The Persol glasses, the black cuffed pants, the worn wallet. And thank you for mentionning ME! But how far are you going to go in your description? I always feel self-conscious about going too far. I mean, someone who knows me might be reading. Say anything you want, but just be careful that your husband doesn't join the list! Well, looking forward to the conclusion... Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 10:40:20 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Any fans of Mark Hollis here? - -----Original Message----- From: Frank and Liz Smith To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Saturday, May 09, 1998 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Any fans of Mark Hollis here? >Unrelated: does anyone have any idea when the next Ferry album is to >released!!!! And what about a tour? > > >Frank once upon a time the album was supposed to be out in spring of '97. now it sounds like fall '98 is more like it. he has two projects in the works, one an album of new material and the other a collection of covers from the 30s, 40s and 50s featuring ferry on piano. no word at all about a tour. much as i admire ferry artistically he seems to be absolutely clueless about career moves. one album of new music in eleven years and one limp cover set is not the way to win new fans, or to reward old ones. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 11:27:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: [AVALON] COTEST #78 - The Prince and the Pea O.K. since Jimmy seems to have abandoned us at the critical moment when a new contest is *desperately* needed, I guess the responsibility falls upon myself. Here goes: In light of the recent developments in the ongoing saga of "Who's the real Bryan?" It becomes necessary to settle the matter for once and for all in a fair and democratic manner. There are various methods of doing this. The first one is the scientific method, i.e., to rule out all possible imposters (the bad hypotheses) as a means of getting to the truth, or as the Dawne put it so eloquently, the "singular man" Then there is the ISP method, which assumes that Bryan can be identified via his service provider. This works in tandem with the "scientific method" because it requires us to rule out all suspcicious service proviers such as AOL, Juno or earthlink. Why would Bryan use a dial-up account with an American phone number. But this method assumes that Bryan is not very smart because if he did want to remain incognito, he would surely use AOL, right? So the "ISP method" is not very accurate. So now we arrive at the method I like best. It is practical, yet literary. It is the "Prince and the Pea Contest Method." Remember the story about the Princess and the Pea, in which all the women in the land pretended to be the princess in order to marry the prince? As you may recall, the prince, a smart guy, had a way of identifying the true princess. He made each woman sleep on a tall stack of mattresses and whichever one could feel a small pea hidden in between the two lowermost ones was the chosen woman (ouch! ooof! I know how that feels!). Well, this contest works along those lines except that it is the women who will be deciding who is the "real prince," yeah Ferry. Here's how it goes: Da da da da! (trumpet horn) All male subjects of Avalonia who claim to be the real Bryan Ferry are invited to prove their "Ferriness" to the women by writing a message that gives their identity away. It doesn't mattter what you write - a story, a poem, a long anecdote, a memoir - we will know instantly whether or not your entry has the magic ingredient, the alchemy that tells us that you are the righteous Eurodude! Would you, could you do anything to turn us on? Well, write it down and make yourself known! Entries limited to 8 consecutive postings. Judgements will be made by myself, Dawne, Sara, and Red. The winner will receive honorary title of "Bryan Ferry" and all due recognition and fantasies for one year following the date of his announcement as winner. Sorry, because there can only be one Bryan Ferry, there will be no second or third place prizes. Bryan, you've got a responsibility to your fans. Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 10:01:22 -0700 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] COTEST #78 - The Prince and the Pea At 11:27 5/9/98 -0500, Heather Marie Propes wrote: > Here's how it goes: > > Da da da da! (trumpet horn) All male subjects of Avalonia > who claim to be the real Bryan Ferry are invited to prove > their "Ferriness" to the women by writing a message that > gives their identity away. Oh, damn. Just when I was beginning to think it would in some manner involve mattresses... -wfs (who's pretty sure he just disqualified himself) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 16:21:11 EDT From: Dawndalian Subject: Re: [AVALON] COTEST #78 - The Prince and the Pea Heatherita, My Favorita, What an inpsired idea, my dear... And where the the Hell is Howlin' JimmyVapor??? Glad you enjoyed the setting for the Ferry Rendezvous.....I shiver just thinking about it! See you in Athens, and perhaps sooner in SF (more on that later) Dawne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 16:41:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... - ------- I'm on a transatlantic flight, trying to make the best of my window seat in coach. Luckily the middle seat appears to be free, so my seat mate and I are feeling a bit relaxed as the plane takes off. Our sense of peace is interrupted once the seat belt sign is turned off by the sudden addition of a 'B' seat colleague. Annoyed, I do my best to ignore him as he settles himself. Just as I become engrossed in my book, he begins talking to me so desperate a fashion that even I have to look up. I see an emaciated man with bad teeth, a slouch evident even in his seated posture, who is wearing badly rumpled clothes. In addition, he reeks of cigarette smoke. Wondering how I was so lucky to have a homeless person stow away on my flight I suddenly become aware that he is rambling on about how he's a famous rock star who has women fawning all over him all over the world. I ask him where he got this idea and he tells me "from the Internet." I suggest that he should not believe everything he reads and also that he needs to be careful about people he meets on the Internet since there are a lot of wierdos out there. He becomes extremely agitated and starts crying. After several attempts to quiet him down, I ring for the flight attendants and request that they move him. They apologize profusely for disturbing me, and move him to the back of the plane, where he can't annoy anyone but them. My seatmate and I resume our reading, and the rest of the trip passes in a quiet blur. - --------- Also, because I can't imagine that the Well Read And Politically Correct Ms. Propes would not allow for the possibility that the post-modern Mr. Ferry might masquerade as a woman in our gender-role-bending world, I'd also like for this to count as my entry into "COTEST #78 - The Prince and the Pea." I'm ascribing that somewhat strange moniker as a way to distinguish it from "Contest #78" which I launched last week. But who's counting? Or even paying attention for that matter. On a note semi-related to the purpose of this list, did anyone see the photos of Jerry Hall in _In Style_ for this month? I'm assuming that they must have been taken right after the birth of her newest kid. She is not looking good at all, poor dear. Having babies at 41 is pretty hard. **Special to the overheated females in our midst--remember what is says on the back of the Tilex bottle: Avoid prolonged breathing of [V]apor. Colleen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 01:03:08 +0300 From: "Michael Hillman" Subject: [AVALON] A Song for Europe Hurray we won!!! Michael Hillman 65B Tchernikovsky Street Jerusalem 92587 Israel Tel: 00 972 2 561 2359 Fax: 00 972 2 563 8374 Email: michaelh@actcom.co.il ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 01:06:30 +0300 From: "Michael Hillman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Contest #79: Who Is Michael Hillman... Q1. What is a cumedgeon? Q2. Well I won't confess to being the real Bryan Ferry but I suppose I see a lot of his personality reflected in me or vice versa so there we go! Have a great week Michael - ---------- > From: RODEISLRED > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Contest #79: Who Is Michael Hillman... > Date: 08 May 1998 21.06 > > And why is he such a curmedgeon? > > > Michael Hillman wrote-- > > > ********* maybe some of these people with identity crises can answer this > > question > > > Hope no-one minds this but there seems to be a lot of junk on this chat > > forum of recent > > > > I dunno if anyone else hasn't the time or patience to wade thru 15 messages > > every time you get your email > > > > Maybe Heather, Jimmy and Mr Pleasant should contact BF coz presumably he's > > got plenty of time on his hands between releasing new albums > > > > Have a nice weekend > > > > Sorry for the "Bitter Sweet" remarks; please consider though > > > > Michael > > > Personally, I think the list has come alive with the recent activity and I > also think Heather Propes' recent contributions were works of genius very much > in keeping with the Roxy spirit of things. Otherwise we'd all be sitting > ariound talking about obscure b-sides and theoretical albums that never come > out, wouldn't we, Michael? > > Sorry for the 'Bittersweet' remarks; please consider though > > --red > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 01:11:00 +0300 From: "Michael Hillman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... Dawn, Bryan Ferry gave up smoking several years ago...there was an article in Arena or something like it when he said he smoked 10 a day or more when in the studio and that was only one of his vices...a later interview he said he had quit as it gave him regular bronchitis thought you would be interested to know if you didn't already know Byee Michael - ---------- > From: Dawndalian > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... > Date: 09 May 1998 07.27 > > Okay Jimmy Vapor, alias Bryan Ferry.... this one's for you.... > > Now, keep in mind, readers that I am composing this amid much distraction... > The Poetry and Prose of Pros Jimmy Vapor and Heatherita are tough to > follow.... > > Imagine, if you will, Summer in Athens.... > A young blonde babe,(that would be Me..) traveling alone in the land of her > ancestors is desperately seaching for an available Taxi cab during the madness > of the 2004 Summer Olympics which have returned back to the Motherland. > > The heat of the sun is pounding on my body and my alabastar skin is > aglow....As is the custom in Athens, taxis (TAXI, Gr= go, travel, trip) can > and will pick up several different passengers en route... As fate would have > it, I saw a cab, occupied by a singular man.... I manage to get the attention > of the driver and at the stoplight, jump in the backseat with the unsuspecting > passenger, who is gazing out the window, smoking a cigerette, staring through > black and tortoise Persol sunglasses. Clearly this guy has flare.... a ivory > silk shirt with a loosened tie round his neck, black slacks, cuffed at the > bottom....he is sporting a shiny pair a Ferragamos....on his lap is a > beautifully-worn leather pocketbook and a gold cigarette case, emblazoned with > the initials, BF.... > > He turns to me, startled by my surprise arrival and stares in a restrained > disbelief... > Before he could get out the words, I ask the driver, in Greek, to deliver me > to the Hotel Grand Bretagne the grand dame of Athens...He turns to tell me > that he is heading there already.... Meanwhile, the man with the gold > cigarette case looks at me and says, "Why on earth are you in my cab?" "Oh, I > am sorry to startle you.... it is customary in Greece to share cab rides.... I > think is sorta fun, really...So you are going to the Bretagne as well?" He > takes off his Persols, and now, I am the one in disbelief... it is before my > adoring eyes, Bryan Ferry. He replies, "Yes, a friend of mine, Heather.... she > did some business deals with me a few years back, she recommended it to me, > have you stayed there before?" Naturally, I tried to maintain my composure > here, my legs were quivering, my my heart pounding so hard, pulsating blood > raced through my veins as I realised, I am Sitting in a Cab ALONE with Bryan > Ferry!!! Omigod!!! > > So we chat along, paying no mind to the fact that traffic is at a > standstill....we share cigarettes... by now he knows that I am a Big Fan... by > now, he knows more about me than I do of him.... I think he found my > effervescent, fluffy personality amusing.... > and I find him absolutely marvelous.... Just as I knew I would. > > We pull up to the Hotel, and he gets out one side, I get out the other.. He > motions to me that he will pick up the bill... but then I hear the cab ask him > for an outrageous 6000 drachmas... Bryan starts handing him the money, then I > step in and start in on the taxi driver, telling him to stop guaging the > foreigner...I say 1000 drachmas and that is all you get (Greek cab drivers > like to take advantage of foreigners ... consider yourself warned....)!!! > Bryan is pretty impressed with my command of Greek (Oh Bryan, its my turn to > be your Siren....) and we continue together to the Desk inside... > > Feeling a bit like Ferris Beueler, I find a Bellboy and slip him a pack of > Marlboros and several hundered drachmas to take Mr. Ferry's luggage to MY > room, and my luggage to HIS room.... Hmm, this could get good... > > > Ah, my most esteemed Avalonians... you will have to tune in next time for the > Conclusion of A Night at the Parthenon... > > Hoping we all can enjoy some hot, radical sweaty sex this weekend, even if it > CAN'T be with Bryan Ferry..... > > Yours, > Dawne > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 21:14:32 -0500 From: Will Frechette Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... Dawndalian wrote: > Bryan is pretty impressed with my command of Greek (Oh Bryan, its my turn to > be your Siren....) and we continue together to the Desk inside... > > Feeling a bit like Ferris Beueler, I find a Bellboy and slip him a pack of > Marlboros and several hundered drachmas to take Mr. Ferry's luggage to MY > room, and my luggage to HIS room.... Hmm, this could get good... > > Ah, my most esteemed Avalonians... you will have to tune in next time for the > Conclusion of A Night at the Parthenon... > > Hoping we all can enjoy some hot, radical sweaty sex this weekend, even if it > CAN'T be with Bryan Ferry..... > > Yours, > Dawne I need to smoke a cigaret Will ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 21:29:14 -0700 From: Rex Estorffe Subject: Re: [AVALON] Any fans of Mark Hollis here? Frank and Liz Smith wrote: > > Unrelated: does anyone have any idea when the next Ferry album is to > released!!!! And what about a tour? > > Frank Right, do we have a fork in the road here?----- O.K.Bryan lives in 'Surrey'a county just south of London Gatwick airport is close,girls hop the concord you could be there in hours,backpack to the estate, it might be raining you ring the bell a hunchback meets you he says, you'r wet! you had better (pause) come in, the master is having one of his parties! Sorry Mark couldn't help it ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 20:30:24 -0700 From: alegna Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Fantasy Scenario...... by request.... Yes, I caught it and I agree with you! I didn't know that Bryan introduced them. Makes ya wonder, doesn't it? What was he doing at a Stones concert!!! Ugh. Colleen Matan wrote: > On a note semi-related to the purpose of this list, did anyone see the > photos of Jerry Hall in _In Style_ for this month? I'm assuming that they > must have been taken right after the birth of her newest kid. She is not > looking good at all, poor dear. Having babies at 41 is pretty hard. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 00:15:08 EDT From: Dawndalian Subject: [AVALON] In defense of Jerry Hall... Colleen, et al... I shall have to see this In Style mag.... I have always been a fan of the beautiful Jerry, before I knew of her BF connection..... But I must say that having children at ANY age, esp at 41 IS "hard," and may I be bold and say that that sort of sarcasm (ie: "poor dear") sounds sorta "catty." I have 2 kids and it is not easy being the young babe I used to be..... We ALL have to face the inevitable process of aging, and let me just say that I see little 20 year olds at the mall with their babies in strollers and these Young Babes look like Pure Hell....Jerry still has it goin' on, in comparison to mothers HALF her age... So there. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 10:18:51 +0300 From: "Michael Hillman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Any fans of Mark Hollis here? It is actually Sussex where he lives, and Fittleworth to be more precise - ---------- > From: Rex Estorffe > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Any fans of Mark Hollis here? > Date: 10 May 1998 07.29 > > Frank and Liz Smith wrote: > > > > Unrelated: does anyone have any idea when the next Ferry album is to > > released!!!! And what about a tour? > > > > Frank > Right, do we have a fork in the road here?----- O.K.Bryan lives in > 'Surrey'a county just south of London Gatwick airport is close,girls hop > the concord you could be there in hours,backpack to the estate, it might > be raining you ring the bell a hunchback meets you he says, you'r wet! > you had better (pause) come in, the master is having one of his > parties! Sorry Mark couldn't help it > > > ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V3 #112 **************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to avalon-digest-owner@smoe.org