From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V3 #32 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, February 3 1998 Volume 03 : Number 032 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Sightings [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Re: Roxy Musak [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] We Have A WINNER! [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] The Signifying Monkey [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Roxy Musak ["Victor Hastings" ] [AVALON] Ferry news (?) [Mikael Weichbrodt ] Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62 [JVapor7@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62--Dignified Version [JVapor7@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Roxy Musak [Thomas Lee ] Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62 (Dignified Version) [JVapor7@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62 [Gregory A Koetting ] Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62 [Will ] [AVALON] editing posts [jason and jill ] Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62 [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Ferry news (?) ["Victor Hastings" ] Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62 [David Fairley ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry news (?) [shin ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry news (?) [LizzieJim@aol.com] [AVALON] Has anyone ever met the Ferriest of them all? If so do tell all !!!!! [LizzieJim@] [none] [jgreshes@netaxs.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:04:55 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Sightings In a message dated 98-02-01 16:12:32 EST, you write: << First off is the recent stateside release of Robert Wyatt's "Shleep", >several months after the civilized world. This album features performances >from Brian Eno and (on one song) Phil Manzanera. It's excellent. Arnie,you'll like it too,especially if you're into King Crimson's 'Lizard' or'Island'. >> Thanks for the suggestion, Roberto, but both those albums are outside my collection. Notice how I didn't say "missing"? Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:04:47 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Roxy Musak In a message dated 98-02-01 11:18:00 EST, you write: << .I'm in charge of the telephone system at work and have installed a 5-disk changer to provide the Music On Hold! I presently only have Avalon and Taxi in the mix. >> Excellent! What a great way to start the Roxy/Ferry takeover of the civilized world. Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:04:52 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] We Have A WINNER! << "Travel is useful, it exercises the imagination. All the rest is disappointment and fatique. Our journey is entirely imaginary. That is its strength." Celine. >> Is that on her new album, the one with the duet with Streisand? Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:04:49 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Signifying Monkey In a message dated 98-02-01 13:14:37 EST, you write: << Anyway, Mr. Vapor, the point I am trying to make is that you do have the ability to alter my electronic "identity" by quoting me out of context, referring to me with insulting nicknames (as Mr. Folk is wont to do), etc. And similarly, I have the ability to do this to you. But is it really that much of a kick to spend all your time and energy altering an identity that may be fictitious in the first place? Do you also write letters quoting the characters of your favorite books? >> Jeez, Heather. What are you doing to this list, turning it into some damn philosophy (oh, excuse me, semiotics) seminar? After all, we're only talking about a rock band and artist. Save the esoteric stuff for something that REALLY matters. Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 11:22:48 -0600 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Musak - -----Original Message----- From: Amanda Carsner To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Saturday, January 31, 1998 9:35 PM Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Musak > >Greetings All! > >We have musak at the place where I work part-time and strangely enough, out >of all of the random songs in the world that could have played, a cover of >"More Than This" came through loud and clear. It blew a breath of fresh >air through the place and brought temporary joy to an otherwise crappy day >at work. I couldn't figure out who did the cover though. It was a female >singer but it sure as hell wasn't Natalie Merchant. > >Later, >Amanda > well now, you might have been listening to the post-natalie merchant 10,000 maniacs cover version of "more than this" rather than an actual muzak version. (there is a difference, albeit small.) muzak is purely instrumental so if there were vocals, it probably wasn't muzak. however, i have heard a genuine muzak version of "more than this." it uses a saxophone to carry the melody. freaked me out when i heard it. the thought of the muzak gods listening to "avalon" and deciding to toss its first track into the elevator music pot was scarifying. somehow i doubt i'll ever hear a muzak version of "re-make/re-model." shame victor "i don't really like 'limbo' but it does contain certain references that might be construed as new orleanian" hastings - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:35:41 +0100 (MET) From: Mikael Weichbrodt Subject: [AVALON] Ferry news (?) Greetings avalonians... I haven't really been paying attention to the list lately, so I don't know if what I'm about to post is old news. But it made me so happy that I just wanna share this with you all. I will quote from the original article in Sound on Sound (an English ProAudio magazine), the February 1998 issue: Ferry Working Hard Ex-Roxy Music main-man Bryan Ferry has installed a 48track Otari RADAR hard disk recording system at his West London studio. He's currently working on an album due for release this year. Ferry's engineer, Ash Howes, comments : "RADAR has transformed the way we work. It was such a hassle editing with tape that changing the arrangement could take days. With RADAR you can do the job in minutes, and knowing that any changes can easiliy be undone gives you freedom te be adventurous with your ideas. End of quote So we actually might see a new BF album this year..... Thanks to Roger van Overloop for paying attention, and for sending me this quote. Cheers! Micke Weichbrodt "Each organism reaches its head over a field of corpses, smiles into the sun, and declares life good" - Elias Canetti - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 11:57:51 -0600 (CST) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Signifying Monkey I think the worst is over. Sorry, Arnie. Heather Marie Propes hmpropes@uchicago.edu On Mon, 2 Feb 1998 ASchulberg@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 98-02-01 13:14:37 EST, you write: > > << Anyway, Mr. Vapor, the point I am trying to make is that you do have the > ability to alter my electronic "identity" by quoting me out of context, > referring to me with insulting nicknames (as Mr. Folk is wont to do), etc. > And similarly, I have the ability to do this to you. But is it really that > much of a kick to spend all your time and energy altering an identity that > may be fictitious in the first place? Do you also write letters quoting > the characters of your favorite books? >> > > Jeez, Heather. What are you doing to this list, turning it into some damn > philosophy (oh, excuse me, semiotics) seminar? After all, we're only talking > about a rock band and artist. Save the esoteric stuff for something that > REALLY matters. > > Arnie > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 16:03:01 -0600 From: Will Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Signifying Monkey Hey Heather, I see you're in Chi. Are you going to the Sisters of Mercy show tomorrow? I was trying to get down there but my friends have all stood me up. Will - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:26:59 -0500 (EST) From: JVapor7@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62 It's five past midnight at the Suicide Hotline. The donuts are stale. The coffee is cold. You're out of cigarettes and lost in dream. The phone rings. It takes you a minute or two, but you realize this is not Graham, Arnie, Will, Victor, Peter, Jas, or any of your other regular callers. Yet you recognize the voice. The sullen tone. The long pauses. That sarcastic wit. Yes, although he does not reveal his identity, you suddenly realize the caller is none other than your musical hero, Bryan Ferry. He is dismayed over the endless series of very expensive flop albums he has released. Despondent over his faded youth. Humiliated over the indigity of having to work with Dave Stewart. And he is close to the final curtain. A .38 and a handful of pills lurk nearby. What do you tell Bryan Ferry to SAVE HIS LIFE? All entries must be 50,000 words or less. Winner will receive the prize "HMP" turned down--two hours of live Roxy/Ferry video. Good luck, Avalonians! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:31:24 -0500 (EST) From: JVapor7@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62--Dignified Version It's five past midnight at the Suicide Hotline. The donuts are stale. The coffee is cold. You're out of cigarettes and lost in dream. The phone rings. It takes you a minute or two, but you realize this is not Graham, Arnie, Will, Victor, Peter, Jas, or any of your other regular callers. Yet you recognize the voice. The sullen tone. The long pauses. That sarcastic wit. Yes, although he does not reveal his identity, you suddenly realize the caller is none other than your musical hero, Bryan Ferry. He is dismayed over the endless series of very expensive flop albums he has released. Despondent over his faded youth. Humiliated over the indignity of having to work with Dave Stewart. And he is close to the final curtain. A .38 and a handful of pills lurk nearby. What do you tell Bryan Ferry to SAVE HIS LIFE? All entries must be 50,000 words or less. Winner will receive the prize "HMP" turned down--two hours of live Roxy/Ferry video. Good luck, Avalonians! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 18:36:41 -0500 From: Thomas Lee Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Musak To Amanda and Avalon ML, The cover was by 10K Maniacs. It is on their latest CD, Love Among the Ruins. It is actually a good album, for those who like folk-pop music. Their lead singer used to be Natalie Merchant, but is now Mary Ramsey. They are actually a very good group from western New York state. They had their greatest fame with Natalie. Hopefully with this new lead singer they will be bigger and better. Amanda Carsner wrote: > Greetings All! > > We have musak at the place where I work part-time and strangely enough, out > of all of the random songs in the world that could have played, a cover of > "More Than This" came through loud and clear. It blew a breath of fresh > air through the place and brought temporary joy to an otherwise crappy day > at work. I couldn't figure out who did the cover though. It was a female > singer but it sure as hell wasn't Natalie Merchant. > > Later, > Amanda > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:16:41 -0500 (EST) From: JVapor7@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62 (Dignified Version) It's five past midnight at the Suicide Hotline. The donuts are stale. The coffee is cold. You're out of cigarettes and lost in dream. The phone rings. It takes you a minute or two, but you realize this is not Graham, Arnie, Will, Victor, Peter, Jas, or any of your other regular callers. Yet you recognize the voice. The sullen tone. The long pauses. That sarcastic wit. Yes, although he does not reveal his identity, you suddenly realize the caller is none other than your musical hero, Bryan Ferry. He is dismayed over the endless series of very expensive flop albums he has released. Despondent over his faded youth. Humiliated over the indignity of having to work with Dave Stewart. And he is close to the final curtain. A .38 and a handful of pills lurk nearby. What do you tell Bryan Ferry to SAVE HIS LIFE? All entries must be 50,000 words or less. Winner will receive the prize "HMP" turned down--two hours of live Roxy/Ferry video. Good luck, Avalonians! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 20:51:46 +0000 From: Gregory A Koetting Subject: Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62 I would tell him all is not as bad as that. After all, David Sylvian sells far fewer albums and takes even longer than Mr. Ferry to record an album..... greggie/atlanta JVapor7@AOL.COM wrote: > It's five past midnight at the Suicide Hotline. The donuts are stale. The > coffee is cold. You're out of cigarettes and lost in dream. The phone > rings. > It takes you a minute or two, but you realize this is not Graham, Arnie, > Will, Victor, Peter, Jas, or any of your other regular callers. Yet you > recognize the voice. > > The sullen tone. The long pauses. That sarcastic wit. Yes, although he > does not reveal his identity, you suddenly realize the caller is none other > than your musical hero, Bryan Ferry. > He is dismayed over the endless series of very expensive flop albums he has > released. Despondent over his faded youth. Humiliated over the indigity of > having to work with Dave Stewart. > > And he is close to the final curtain. A .38 and a handful of pills lurk > nearby. > > What do you tell Bryan Ferry to SAVE HIS LIFE? > > All entries must be 50,000 words or less. Winner will receive the prize > "HMP" turned down--two hours of live Roxy/Ferry video. Good luck, > Avalonians! > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 20:11:28 -0600 From: Will Subject: Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62 JVapor7@AOL.COM wrote: > > It's five past midnight at the Suicide Hotline. The donuts are stale. The > coffee is cold. You're out of cigarettes and lost in dream. The phone > rings. > It takes you a minute or two, but you realize this is not Graham, Arnie, > Will, Victor, Peter, Jas, or any of your other regular callers. Yet you > recognize the voice. > > The sullen tone. The long pauses. That sarcastic wit. Yes, although he > does not reveal his identity, you suddenly realize the caller is none other > than your musical hero, Bryan Ferry. > He is dismayed over the endless series of very expensive flop albums he has > released. Despondent over his faded youth. Humiliated over the indigity of > having to work with Dave Stewart. > > And he is close to the final curtain. A .38 and a handful of pills lurk > nearby. > > What do you tell Bryan Ferry to SAVE HIS LIFE? > > All entries must be 50,000 words or less. Winner will receive the prize > "HMP" turned down--two hours of live Roxy/Ferry video. Good luck, > Avalonians! Wow! when I saw him last he had the look of a man with the world by the f*cking nuts. I wonder what could have happened? Now me, I might really be calling the hotline but my buddy Bry, that's a stretch. BTW We did have dinner the other night and your name barely came up. BTW2 I do look forward to your posts with that same sick feeling of not being able to drive by a horrible accident without taking a look. Actually all in all fairly entertaining. I say we let you stay on the list. Will - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:25:24 -0500 (EST) From: jason and jill Subject: [AVALON] editing posts > I would tell him all is not as bad as that. After all, David Sylvian sells far > fewer albums and takes even longer than Mr. Ferry to record an album..... > > greggie/atlanta I know there hasn't been much of value on the list lately, and due to that I've been as guilty as anyone else, but that last post just reminded me that we have to start trimming posts better. All the quoted material is a pain for people on the digest to page through, even if they are just paging to the next message to find out who is inspiring Jimmy to wax his weasel today. Jason - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:31:11 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62 << What do you tell Bryan Ferry to SAVE HIS LIFE?>> Bryan, you were the best and most long-lasting thing to come out of my ill- fated relationship with Bonnie, the 24 year old older woman, when I was a mere lad of 20. She threw "For Your Pleasure" at me and said, "Here, you might like this," and from the opening notes of "Do the Strand" I was mesmerized. I listened to Roxy repeatedly over the next year or so and then, in 1974, when she was done using me as her sex toy and I was in the depths of despair, I had the thrill of seeing the band at the tiny, decrepit Leona Theater in Homestead, PA, a dying mill town just a few miles from Pittsburgh. You wore your army outfit and my vision was torn between that and the plexiglass violin of Eddie Jobson and the overall weirdness of the scene. "Country Life" was my refuge as I wildly flailed and switched at will from vocals to lead guitar to violin solo. Hell, sometimes I even played the air- oboe, and shouted "l'amour, toujours l'amour" at the top of my lungs. Bryan, from the wild days of early Roxy through the lush romanticism of "Avalon" and beyond, we've been through so much together. You've been there for me and now I'm there for you, buddy. Now put down the phone and don't call Jerry Hall. It won't help. Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:00:57 -0600 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry news (?) - ---------- > From: Mikael Weichbrodt > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Ferry news (?) > Date: Monday, February 02, 1998 11:35 AM > (snip) > Ferry's engineer, Ash Howes, comments : > "RADAR has transformed the way we work. It was such a hassle editing with > tape that changing the arrangement could take days. With RADAR you can do > the job in minutes, and knowing that any changes can easiliy be undone gives > you freedom te be adventurous with your ideas. > > End of quote thank god for RADAR, otherwise it might take ferry FOREVER to finish an album.... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 22:45:04 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62 > What do you tell Bryan Ferry to SAVE HIS LIFE? With all due respect to The Man We Love To Hate (tm)-- "For Christ's sake Bryan, get a grip. It's not like you're Jimmy Vapor." Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 17:19:31 +1300 (NZDT) From: David Fairley Subject: Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #62 On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Colleen Matan wrote: > > > > What do you tell Bryan Ferry to SAVE HIS LIFE? > > With all due respect to The Man We Love To Hate (tm)-- > > "For Christ's sake Bryan, get a grip. It's not like you're Jimmy Vapor." > > Colleen > To quote an artist BF has covered...I second that emotion!!! dave. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 00:04:12 -0500 (EST) From: shin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry news (?) On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Mikael Weichbrodt wrote: > Greetings avalonians... > > I haven't really been paying attention to the list lately, so I don't know > if what I'm about to post is old news. But it made me so happy that I just > wanna share this with you all. I will quote from the original article in > Sound on Sound (an English ProAudio magazine), the February 1998 issue: > > Ferry Working Hard > > Ex-Roxy Music main-man Bryan Ferry has installed a 48track Otari RADAR hard > disk recording system at his West London studio. He's currently working on Oh man! We're in deep trouble. Didn't Ferry say something about working in a studio w/ multiple-tracks just drove him crazy. He laid on layers of music until he couldn't quite complete what he started. This is why he went on releasing 4-track studieo recorded "Taxi" to take a break from "Mamouna". I think Mamouna was recorded in a 24-track studio. I guess we will have to wait for another "Bus" until the big one. Too bad for his wife and kids, they will never see Ferry again. He could simply live in the studio now. > an album due for release this year. Ferry's engineer, Ash Howes, comments : > "RADAR has transformed the way we work. It was such a hassle editing with > tape that changing the arrangement could take days. With RADAR you can do > the job in minutes, and knowing that any changes can easiliy be undone gives > you freedom te be adventurous with your ideas. > > End of quote > So we actually might see a new BF album this year..... > > Thanks to Roger van Overloop for paying attention, and for sending me this > quote. > > Cheers! > Micke Weichbrodt > > "Each organism reaches its head over a field of corpses, > smiles into the sun, and declares life good" > - Elias Canetti > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 23:58:20 EST From: LizzieJim@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry news (?) Can it actually be a reality? A New Bryan album. Please Please Please! ....Janeen By the way did Sonnet 18 ever come out as a single CD? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 00:01:00 EST From: LizzieJim@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Has anyone ever met the Ferriest of them all? If so do tell all !!!!! I think the subject line says it all. If you've ever met him or anyone from Roxy give us all the dish. Janeen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 03:51:56 -0500 From: jgreshes@netaxs.com Subject: [none] I'll stop be distracted as soon as Monica gets from under my desk. Jason On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Grace LoBue wrote: > > Conversation and activity has halted for the past 2 days. Has our > attention been diverted to the Clinton Scandal?? > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V3 #32 *************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to avalon-digest-owner@smoe.org