From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V3 #18 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, January 20 1998 Volume 03 : Number 018 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... ["Pavel Skrecek " ] Re: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet, Angie Bowie, #50 ["Graham Howard" <] Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... ["Graham Howard" ] Re: [AVALON] Handicapped parking only/the balladeer ["Graham Howard" ] [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... ["Pavel Skrecek " ] [AVALON] Ferry's Style [Grace LoBue ] Re: [AVALON] New Manager, New Tour [JVapor7@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] RE: VELVET GOLDMINE, the Unambomber, #49 [ccd@dataweb.nl] Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... [Will ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Just another Pepsi [Will ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:54:05 MET-1DST From: "Pavel Skrecek " Subject: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... > Skrecek Pavel - PE,,student,UID=17274 wrote: > > > > Coleen wrote: > > > > > > I have to vote for 2 songs-- > > > > > > one BF penned: Just Another High > > > and one he interpreted: These Foolish Things > > > > > > And an honorable mention to To Turn You On. > > > > > > Colleen > > > > > WOOOW !!!!! > > You read my thoughts !!!!! > > "Just Another High" is great for the fact it is "heart-healing": > > It starts with a typical pathetic BF voice but turns into "good > > end" - what better would you say than "I am just another crazy > > guy" ? So, number one ! > > ------------ > > "These Foolish Things" is lovely and romantic since it evokes > > the atmospere (at the beginning) of a romantic lovely cafee, > > which is the most romantic thing I know. > > > > Cheers. > > Pavel. > > Prague. > > I on the other hand must bare my chest and prepare for much abuse ,but > I was just listening to "Total Recall" and I couldn't beleive how many > of the old tunes that I did not enjoy with the fervor that a true fan > should have. These Foolish things being among them. I have almost had to > come to grips with the fact that I MAY NO LONGER BE A TRUE HARDCORE ROXY > FAN. I in fact thought most of it sucked. I had to question myself and I > think I have moved beyond some of it. I still dig a lot of it. I'd say > about half, but some of it I have no desire whatsoever to hear. Is that > so wrong? I had to tell you guys because I want us to still be friends. > Although I must say that Bryan's later stuff on the other hand is > GODLIKE so I'm not leaving or anything, just had to get that off my > chest. Can you forgive me? > > Will As for me - I can. Even if you turn from a true hardcore Roxy fan into the true hardcore fan... You don't need to feel remorse. Maybe one day you'll be glad you stopped RX/BF mania in the right time. I swear I want me to still be your friend... But the task was to write the most romantic song. So dig into your memories of the period of sweet RX/BF mania and drop a line again ! Pavel. Prague. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:22:43 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:16:09 -0600 > From: Will > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > Skrecek Pavel - PE,,student,UID=17274 wrote: > > > > Coleen wrote: > > > > > > I have to vote for 2 songs-- > > > > > > one BF penned: Just Another High > > > and one he interpreted: These Foolish Things > > > > > > And an honorable mention to To Turn You On. > > > > > > Colleen > > > > > WOOOW !!!!! > > You read my thoughts !!!!! > > "Just Another High" is great for the fact it is "heart-healing": > > It starts with a typical pathetic BF voice but turns into "good > > end" - what better would you say than "I am just another crazy > > guy" ? So, number one ! > > ------------ > > "These Foolish Things" is lovely and romantic since it evokes > > the atmospere (at the beginning) of a romantic lovely cafee, > > which is the most romantic thing I know. > > > > Cheers. > > Pavel. > > Prague. > > I on the other hand must bare my chest and prepare for much abuse ,but > I was just listening to "Total Recall" and I couldn't beleive how many > of the old tunes that I did not enjoy with the fervor that a true fan > should have. These Foolish things being among them. I have almost had to > come to grips with the fact that I MAY NO LONGER BE A TRUE HARDCORE ROXY > FAN. I in fact thought most of it sucked. I had to question myself and I > think I have moved beyond some of it. I still dig a lot of it. I'd say > about half, but some of it I have no desire whatsoever to hear. Is that > so wrong? I had to tell you guys because I want us to still be friends. > Although I must say that Bryan's later stuff on the other hand is > GODLIKE so I'm not leaving or anything, just had to get that off my > chest. Can you forgive me? > > Will > > Of course. Im not crazy about These Foolish Things myself. I think it quite reasonable that someone who only, or mainly, likes the later stuff is on this list. I dont have a problem with that. I myself dont like alot of the stuff on BFs solo albums, especially the ballads. I also agree that his later solo albums with his own songs are more interesting than his interpretations of other peoples songs. Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:13:40 MET-1DST From: "Pavel Skrecek " Subject: [AVALON] Yesterday, Today, and All Tommorrow's Parties. > DITTO, DITTO, DITTO. Thanks to all who have come out of the closet. > You go away for a few days and viola!!! This group was VERY lively over > a year ago and then something happened for which was never really > explained. Nevertheless, new Avalonians were born and are now sprouting > their two cents all over the place. I LOVE IT. All I can say is that I > have learned a lot more about Bryan/Roxy et al. by all the postings and > little things that you folks have dug up. I still want to know, and > this was asked before, does Bryan know anything about this list, and if > he is "listening" would he love to comment? His loyal fan base > (especially here in Chicago (hello WXRT)) would like to know. Okay > Bryan-What's up????? Fans in the United Kingdom- Could someone pass a > note to him or his management? > > Jas > (chicago) > > PS My vote for romantic song- More than This (the final two minutes is > orgasmic) You are happy man ! Realize that an average orgasm lasts 17 seconds... I would like very much to know if Bryan is "listening" to the discussion too ! I suppose that - unfortunately - he does not. But maybe it's a great luck for him. Bye. Pavel Prague - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:27:04 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: VELVET GOLDMINE, the Unambomber, #49 > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:05:53 -0600 > From: Will > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: VELVET GOLDMINE, the Unambomber, #49 > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > Jeffrey Hogan wrote: > > > > >Did Roxy Music get the idea for Avalon from the capital city in Catalina? > > >If so, I'm definitely going to arrange a pilgramage next time I'm in Long > > >Beach. > > > > No, no, no...I'm quite sure he got the title from Avalon beach north of > > Sydney where the magnificent drama series "Home and Away" is filmed > > (for UK-based subscribers). I suspect YOUR Avalon was John Tesh's > > inspiration. > > > > Jeff. > > > > -------------------- > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > Are you sure it wasn't the legendary island to which King Arthur's > mortally wounded body was taken after his final battle? That seems to > make a bit more sense. > > Will > This is an interesting topic for discussion. I used to live in Sydney but never went to Avalon beach. I think it more likely that Avalon is derived from English legend rather than the beach ie I think it more likely that Will is correct. The album has a mystical quality about it, and check the cover; reminds one of "The Mists of Avalon", a sf novel about King Arthur legend seen from the womens point of view, by a feminist sf writer whose name I cant remember. However, knowing BF, it could be both! Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:39:29 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... > From: Mia Simone > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 03:58:39 EST > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... > Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > In a message dated 98-01-15 17:30:02 EST, you write: > > > being a hopeless romantic myself, I would like to know what Ferry/Roxy song > > you think is the most romantic. > > Far above and beyond anything else, TAKE A CHANCE WITH ME. It turns me inside > out, and I swear it has magic powers. All I have to do when I feel I'm > falling for someone is play that song and concentrate real hard...and they > will be mine within days ! > > Melanie > I just love Manzanera's extended into on this one; its one of the highlights of the album. Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:42:41 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] RE: VELVET GOLDMINE, the Unambomber, #49 > From: JVapor7@aol.com > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:00:35 -0500 (EST) > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] RE: VELVET GOLDMINE, the Unambomber, #49 > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > There's a Todd Haines film coming out (Europe in April, America in October) > that features four Roxy Songs--'Ladytron, To HB, Virginia Plain, Bitter's > End.' All are (surely limp) new cover versions except VP. The film is a > fictional account of the relationship between an opportunistic glam rock > star (said to be based on Bowie) and one of his heroes (said to be a cross of > Iggy Pop/Lou Reed). The Roxy songs are featured quite prominently and the > film is supposed to be great ( Mr. Haines also directed 'Poison,' the very > acrimonious 'Safe,' and the all-Barbie doll nightmare entitled 'The Karen > Carpenter Story') > Will this be the tiresome 'resurgence of interest' that will lead to the > dreaded Roxy Music REUNION??? > > Jimmy > PS. PAUL isn't dead--I saw him yesterday with BOWIE. They were standing in > front of a building that had on the side of it...the number 49. And they > were on their way to CLEVELAND to meet FRIPP. Avalonians, it is time to shed > your containers! > My girlfriend who doesnt like RM told me about this, but she couldnt remember the title. Whats it called? Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:37:55 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Most romantic BF/Roxy song > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:05:57 +0000 (GMT) > From: Murali > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] RE: Most romantic BF/Roxy song > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > Hello > > Wow! A tricky question, if ever there was one. When I thought about it > though, the knee-jerk reaction was Day for Night. I don't think any of the > others people mentioned has the same mix of ethereal, haunting melody > and dark, Fate-inspired atmospherics. A classic, but admittedly not an > obvious choice. > > > Murali > > I agree. Although Bette Noire was my choice for romantic song, Davy for Night is my fav track on the album. Its great: very emotional and exciting, especially at the end.. Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:48:01 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Genius of David Bowie Whats all this Paul is dead stuff? Who is Paul? Im lost. Re. most romantic song. Yes Will, my runner up to Bette Noire would be Your Painted Face. What about most sexy song? My vote would be for "The Main Thing", followed by "Still Falls the Rain". Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:51:01 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Yesterday, Today, and All Tommorrow's Parties.... > From: jas2347@xsite.net > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 01:00:43 -0600 > To: "avalon@smoe.org" > Subject: [AVALON] Yesterday, Today, and All Tommorrow's Parties.... > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:49:57 EST > From: ASchulberg > Subject: [AVALON] Level of Activity > > Well, I'll be offline for a week or so but I just wanted to say that > after months and months when it seemed that AVALON was really a place > for the dead, the recent spate of activity is most heartening. Keep the > flow going and I'll check back in later this month. > > Arnie > > DITTO, DITTO, DITTO. Thanks to all who have come out of the closet. > You go away for a few days and viola!!! This group was VERY lively over > a year ago and then something happened for which was never really > explained. Nevertheless, new Avalonians were born and are now sprouting > their two cents all over the place. I LOVE IT. All I can say is that I > have learned a lot more about Bryan/Roxy et al. by all the postings and > little things that you folks have dug up. I still want to know, and > this was asked before, does Bryan know anything about this list, and if > he is "listening" would he love to comment? His loyal fan base > (especially here in Chicago (hello WXRT)) would like to know. Okay > Bryan-What's up????? Fans in the United Kingdom- Could someone pass a > note to him or his management? > > Jas > (chicago) I agree, this list really does go in spits and spurts and from one extreme to the other. I myself was off for a cos of lack of access. More recently I was off for a month cos of vacation. When I came back the list seemed dead and now its gone berserk! Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:52:51 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Introduction from moi > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:12:32 -0600 (CST) > From: Heather Marie Propes > To: AVALON@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Introduction from moi > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > Hi. My name is Heather Propes. I'm American (but maybe not forever) > > I'm new to the list, a big fan of early Roxy Music. "If There is > Something" is my favorite song of all times. I love it all, though. > I studied art history, and always enjoyed the "Helmut Newton-esque" > album covers, and the band's world-weary flaneur stylings in > general. I think that Bryan Ferry, like D.H. Lawrence (my other favorite > master of the English language) has a real knack for describing sensuality > with total conviction. Glam-rock went in many directions with T-Rex > (another favorite), Bowie, Mott the Hoople, Elton John, etc. But I think > that Roxy alone managed to keep it tasteful and, as Jeri Hall said in her > memoirs of Bryan Ferry, "aristocratic." > > Anyway, I'm really glad to be here. I will try to contribute a lot. I hope > this posting doesn't sound like a manifesto (although I don't > think anything I write could sound as great as Manifesto). > > Quick question - Has anyone heard about the release of Todd Hayne's film, > "Velvet Goldmine" in the States? Thanks for answering my question about the title of that film. Its obviously a must for Roxy fans to see. I really like your comparison of BF with DH Lawrence. Most appropriate; there are definate similarities! Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:03:00 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet, Angie Bowie, #50 > From: ccd@dataweb.nl > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:52:12 +0100 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet, Angie Bowie, #50 > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > Graham wrote: > >... > >The other tracks dont do much for me, and his version of "Amazing Grace" is a > >real dud. I maintain that apart from IPASOY there is nothing > >outstanding on the album. > > > >Graham. > > IHMO the Maestro recorded/included "Amazing Grace", because Taxi was dedicated > to his mother, who died during that period. > > > Frank > > > > Two Avalonians have now pointed out to me that it was dedicated to his mother. I thought it was his father. Did he dedicate another album to his father? Im sure I saw a dedication to his father in the booklet. Ill have to look again. Im probably going crazy. Its because the great artist hasnt brought us any new goodies. Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:05:30 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... > From: ASchulberg > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:47:48 EST > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... > Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > Okay, okay. I'm VERY biased, but how about "All I Want Is You" and "Out of the > Blue" as romantic songs? I think the singer, backed by the power of the band > is so intensely taken with the new love that he rips into these songs as if > his life depended on it. > > Listen to Phil's slashing chords on AIWIY and Andy's snaky oboe (what kind of > rock instrument is that? Perfect in this context.) and , of course, the > dizzying (dare I say orgasmic) violin solo at the end of OOTB. These are the > sounds of young men drunk with the power of love. > > And you could probably add "The Thrill of It All". > > Okay, I'll shut up now. > > Arnie > I agree. The climax of OOTB is one of the most exciting and emotional endings of any Roxy song; it really gets my adrenaline running. Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:55:09 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Just another Pepsi > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:46:31 -0600 (CST) > From: Heather Marie Propes > To: "Skrecek Pavel - PE,,student,UID=17274" > Cc: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Re: Just another Pepsi > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > > > > > BUT, It is not very clever to build the relationship on such a > > thing like the common favourite artist, no matter what EXCELLENT > > he/she is (and BF IS excellent ). Because you live your life, not > > the life of your Favourite. You can identify with him of course, > > you can dress like him, you can talk like him, you can attend places > > he does, you can breath the air he does, but these are the only things > > you can do. Still you are you. > > I couldn't agree more. And *you* (being whoever you are) have > characteristics that can influence others just as your favorite > musician is > inflential for you. Imagine what might have happened if Bryan Ferry had > tried to be JUST LIKE Bob Dylan. It would have been awful. > > > It is a very greatful thing that something like > music of BF/RM > exists (and music at all) but man should not lose his/her > own personality. > > Definitely. The role of art (in my humble opinion) is to provide us with > aesthetic pleasure and to inspire us to make our own lives more creative > (in a distinctive way). Life would be so boring if everyone just defered > to the same "great" artist because that person intimidated them out of > expressing their own individuality. > > > One friend of mine likes music of the American > > band Suicidal Tendencies very much. But he does not give a damn > > about if his girlfriend admires them or not. He rather appreciates > > that she does not. He used to say: "One suicidal - it is quite > > enough." > > I like that. I souunds like a great relationship (a little like my sister > and her boyfriend), one is into hard-thrash-metal, the other into > something different. Musical complements can balance each other out. > > Keep rocking > > Heather > > > I know all this, but it would still be nice for me if my girlfriend and I could enjoy BF/RM together; a shared experience. If Im lucky enough to see BF again live Ill have to go on my own... Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:00:30 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Handicapped parking only/the balladeer > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:53:48 -0500 (EST) > From: Colleen Matan > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Handicapped parking only/the balladeer > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > > > On Fri, 16 Jan 1998 JVapor7@aol.com wrote: > > > William, Colleen--please have your attendants adminster your medicine and > > gather your walkers 'round the computers-- > > > > The trouble with all this is you will get what you want. It's INEVITABLE. > > Then we'll see if you want it. > > Hmmm, my walker, huh? Excellent. Then I'm sure to get front row seating. > I'll save you a spot, William. Anyone else? > > As for 'inevitable'--if only it were. > > Anyway, I forgot to say yesterday that I can't believe we let Graham get > away with this: > > On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Graham Howard wrote: > > > Agreed; some of his "interpretations" on his previous covers have > > been a bit naf. IMHO, the uptempo ones are the most > > consistantly successful eg Hard Rain, Sympathy for the Devil, In > > Crowd; whereas the ballards are more patchy. > > The ballads are patchy? I'd have to disagree. While the uptempo ones are > great, they are camp through and through. But the ballads manage to > squeeze in some of his world-weary soul amongst the arched eyebrows and > sidelong winks. > > Colleen > > > I agree the uptempo ones are camp, but that makes them all the more enjoyable. Note I said the ballads are "patchy"; by this I meant some are good and some not so good, not that they are all bad. Hope Ive extracated myself from that one. Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:08:07 MET-1DST From: "Pavel Skrecek " Subject: [AVALON] Fan Club vs. mailing list Hi everybody, can you tell me what is the relationship (if any) between this Avalon mailing list and the fan club in Dumberton, Scotland mentioned in the FAQ file ? Are the managers of the fan club the same people like those of Avalon m. list ? Are you anybody of you members of that F.C. ? If yes, is it possible to order any of promotion materials or books, posters and so on there ? Thank you. Pavel. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:10:56 MET-1DST From: "Pavel Skrecek " Subject: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... > > > WOOOW !!!!! > > > You read my thoughts !!!!! > > > "Just Another High" is great for the fact it is "heart-healing": > > > It starts with a typical pathetic BF voice but turns into "good > > > end" - what better would you say than "I am just another crazy > > > guy" ? So, number one ! > > > ------------ > > > "These Foolish Things" is lovely and romantic since it evokes > > > the atmospere (at the beginning) of a romantic lovely cafee, > > > which is the most romantic thing I know. > > > > > > Cheers. > > > Pavel. > > > Prague. > > > > I on the other hand must bare my chest and prepare for much abuse ,but > > I was just listening to "Total Recall" and I couldn't beleive how many > > of the old tunes that I did not enjoy with the fervor that a true fan > > should have. These Foolish things being among them. I have almost had to > > come to grips with the fact that I MAY NO LONGER BE A TRUE HARDCORE ROXY > > FAN. I in fact thought most of it sucked. I had to question myself and I > > think I have moved beyond some of it. I still dig a lot of it. I'd say > > about half, but some of it I have no desire whatsoever to hear. Is that > > so wrong? I had to tell you guys because I want us to still be friends. > > Although I must say that Bryan's later stuff on the other hand is > > GODLIKE so I'm not leaving or anything, just had to get that off my > > chest. Can you forgive me? > > > > Will > > > > > Of course. Im not crazy about These Foolish Things myself. I think > it quite reasonable that someone who only, or mainly, likes the later > stuff is on this list. I dont have a problem with that. I myself > dont like alot of the stuff on BFs solo albums, especially the > ballads. I also agree that his later solo albums with his own songs > are more interesting than his interpretations of other peoples songs. > > Graham. As for me I AM crazy about These Foolish Things. It is obvious that during more than 20 years music is changing and so must do BF. By the way, have you noticed how he is still "in" as for the "arangements" and "technologies" used at his latest stuff, especially the album Mamouna ? I thing it sounds very modern and fresh - no "old-fashioned" arangements as you (maybe) would await for. It is based on percussions and "artificial" sounds ( or sounds that are similar to artificial ones)very much and not on "typical" rock instruments and this is maybe why the opinion on BF/RM is so much diferent in the course of time. Pavel. Prague. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:40:38 -0600 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet, Angie Bowie, #50 - -----Original Message----- From: Graham Howard To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 9:34 AM Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet, Angie Bowie, #50 >Two Avalonians have now pointed out to me that it was dedicated to >his mother. I thought it was his father. Did he dedicate another >album to his father? Im sure I saw a dedication to his father in the >booklet. Ill have to look again. Im probably going crazy. Its >because the great artist hasnt brought us any new goodies. > boys & girls was dedicated to his father -- i believe "frederick charles ferry" was his name. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:30:57 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fan Club vs. mailing list > From: "Pavel Skrecek " > To: avalon@smoe.org > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:08:07 MET-1DST > Subject: [AVALON] Fan Club vs. mailing list > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > Hi everybody, > > can you tell me what is the relationship (if any) between this > Avalon mailing list and the fan club in Dumberton, Scotland > mentioned in the FAQ file ? Are the managers of the fan club > the same people like those of Avalon m. list ? > > Are you anybody of you members of that F.C. ? > If yes, is it possible to order any of promotion materials or > books, posters and so on there ? > > Thank you. > Pavel. > As far as I know there is absolutely no relationship between the two; they are run by completely different people. Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:04:04 EST From: Waltznblak Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fan Club vs. mailing list Svenska63@aol.com has posters for sale of BF for 10.00 bucks. drop her a line. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:25:12 -0800 (PST) From: Grace LoBue Subject: [AVALON] Ferry's Style I forgive you Will. I enjoy the old Roxy Music, but I much more prefer the newer style. I feel the later stuff to be more sophisticated and passionate. In the old days, Ferry was searching for and transforming his style. He was metamorphosing into to the spectacular artist he is today. Each piece of work he puts out becomes more exceptional and inspiring. I just would love to experience his talent LIVE someday. Grace. - ---Will wrote: > > Skrecek Pavel - PE,,student,UID=17274 wrote: > > > > Coleen wrote: > > > > > > I have to vote for 2 songs-- > > > > > > one BF penned: Just Another High > > > and one he interpreted: These Foolish Things > > > > > > And an honorable mention to To Turn You On. > > > > > > Colleen > > > > > WOOOW !!!!! > > You read my thoughts !!!!! > > "Just Another High" is great for the fact it is "heart-healing": > > It starts with a typical pathetic BF voice but turns into "good > > end" - what better would you say than "I am just another crazy > > guy" ? So, number one ! > > ------------ > > "These Foolish Things" is lovely and romantic since it evokes > > the atmospere (at the beginning) of a romantic lovely cafee, > > which is the most romantic thing I know. > > > > Cheers. > > Pavel. > > Prague. > > I on the other hand must bare my chest and prepare for much abuse ,but > I was just listening to "Total Recall" and I couldn't beleive how many > of the old tunes that I did not enjoy with the fervor that a true fan > should have. These Foolish things being among them. I have almost had to > come to grips with the fact that I MAY NO LONGER BE A TRUE HARDCORE ROXY > FAN. I in fact thought most of it sucked. I had to question myself and I > think I have moved beyond some of it. I still dig a lot of it. I'd say > about half, but some of it I have no desire whatsoever to hear. Is that > so wrong? I had to tell you guys because I want us to still be friends. > Although I must say that Bryan's later stuff on the other hand is > GODLIKE so I'm not leaving or anything, just had to get that off my > chest. Can you forgive me? > > Will > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:10:26 -0500 (EST) From: JVapor7@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Manager, New Tour (AP) 2000--After years of dissatisfaction with management, Bryan Ferry has announced he's now signed with Colleen Matan of Postmodernists Are People, Too, Inc. Matan has announced a "mega-world-tour" featuring onstage "every musician that ever played with Roxy Music or Bryan, even the dead ones" and she promises it will include "all sorts of spectacular special guests" such as Eno and Ferry duetting on 'You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling," Dennis Rodman doing an interpretive dance to 'Ladytron,' and a grand finale, 'Pull Up to the Bumper,' a tribute to the late Grace Jones, featuring Madonna, members of Oasis, and the the Spice Girls. Ferry's new lp of retro-rap, 'Chillin' at the Rave,' is produced by Puff Daddy, and the first video from the single--a daring cover of the Bobby Goldsboro chestnut, 'Little Things'--will be directed by Quentin Tarantino. The tour is sponsored, of course, by Phytofix Hairspray. "Bryan is very excited to be coming back to America--we don't think the cane will be a problem," says Matan. "Hopefully this will cap off the resurgence of interest that began with 'Velvet Goldmine.'" - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:21:26 +0100 From: ccd@dataweb.nl Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: VELVET GOLDMINE, the Unambomber, #49 > Are you sure it wasn't the legendary island to which King Arthur's >mortally wounded body was taken after his final battle? That seems to >make a bit more sense. > > Will Yes Will, you're right. Roxy's last album and the funeral of the band, where they live on in our minds. Unlike the legend, Lucy bid the Army adieu and became Queen next to our King. Frank - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:53:08 -0600 From: Will Subject: Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... Pavel Skrecek wrote: > > > Skrecek Pavel - PE,,student,UID=17274 wrote: > > > > > > Coleen wrote: > > > > > > > > I have to vote for 2 songs-- > > > > > > > > one BF penned: Just Another High > > > > and one he interpreted: These Foolish Things > > > > > > > > And an honorable mention to To Turn You On. > > > > > > > > Colleen > > > > > > > WOOOW !!!!! > > > You read my thoughts !!!!! > > > "Just Another High" is great for the fact it is "heart-healing": > > > It starts with a typical pathetic BF voice but turns into "good > > > end" - what better would you say than "I am just another crazy > > > guy" ? So, number one ! > > > ------------ > > > "These Foolish Things" is lovely and romantic since it evokes > > > the atmospere (at the beginning) of a romantic lovely cafee, > > > which is the most romantic thing I know. > > > > > > Cheers. > > > Pavel. > > > Prague. > > > > I on the other hand must bare my chest and prepare for much abuse ,but > > I was just listening to "Total Recall" and I couldn't beleive how many > > of the old tunes that I did not enjoy with the fervor that a true fan > > should have. These Foolish things being among them. I have almost had to > > come to grips with the fact that I MAY NO LONGER BE A TRUE HARDCORE ROXY > > FAN. I in fact thought most of it sucked. I had to question myself and I > > think I have moved beyond some of it. I still dig a lot of it. I'd say > > about half, but some of it I have no desire whatsoever to hear. Is that > > so wrong? I had to tell you guys because I want us to still be friends. > > Although I must say that Bryan's later stuff on the other hand is > > GODLIKE so I'm not leaving or anything, just had to get that off my > > chest. Can you forgive me? > > > > Will > > As for me - I can. Even if you turn from a true hardcore Roxy fan > into the true hardcore fan... > You don't need to feel remorse. Maybe one day you'll be glad you > stopped RX/BF mania in the right time. > I swear I want me to still be your friend... > But the task was to write the most romantic song. So dig into > your memories of the period of sweet RX/BF mania and drop a line > again ! > > Pavel. > Prague. I already had my say and it was Bete Noire the song, in fact I had to choose two songs .The second was Your painted smile, and now I have to give honorable mention to Zamba. Picking one is impossible. Will - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:08:00 -0600 From: Will Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Just another Pepsi Graham Howard wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:46:31 -0600 (CST) > > From: Heather Marie Propes > > To: "Skrecek Pavel - PE,,student,UID=17274" > > Cc: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: [AVALON] Re: Just another Pepsi > > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > > > > > > > > > > BUT, It is not very clever to build the relationship on such a > > > thing like the common favourite artist, no matter what EXCELLENT > > > he/she is (and BF IS excellent ). Because you live your life, not > > > the life of your Favourite. You can identify with him of course, > > > you can dress like him, you can talk like him, you can attend places > > > he does, you can breath the air he does, but these are the only things > > > you can do. Still you are you. > > > > I couldn't agree more. And *you* (being whoever you are) have > > characteristics that can influence others just as your favorite > > musician is > > inflential for you. Imagine what might have happened if Bryan Ferry had > > tried to be JUST LIKE Bob Dylan. It would have been awful. > > > > > It is a very greatful thing that something like > > music of BF/RM > exists (and music at all) but man should not lose his/her > > own personality. > > > > Definitely. The role of art (in my humble opinion) is to provide us with > > aesthetic pleasure and to inspire us to make our own lives more creative > > (in a distinctive way). Life would be so boring if everyone just defered > > to the same "great" artist because that person intimidated them out of > > expressing their own individuality. > > > > > One friend of mine likes music of the American > > > band Suicidal Tendencies very much. But he does not give a damn > > > about if his girlfriend admires them or not. He rather appreciates > > > that she does not. He used to say: "One suicidal - it is quite > > > enough." > > > > I like that. I souunds like a great relationship (a little like my sister > > and her boyfriend), one is into hard-thrash-metal, the other into > > something different. Musical complements can balance each other out. > > > > Keep rocking > > > > Heather > > > > > I know all this, but it would still be nice for me if my girlfriend > and I could enjoy BF/RM together; a shared experience. If Im lucky > enough to see BF again live Ill have to go on my own... > > Graham. Every...hear this...every girl I ever went out with on a semi-perminent basis hadn't heard of Bryan Ferry. My girlfriend from wayback, Gail went with me to see Roxy back in the seventies and ended up being blown away at the show, and ended up talking to Eddie Jobson, who was checking out the headliner Frank Zappa(who's band he left Roxy for at the end of their tour). pretty heavy stuff. My next monumental girlfriend, Bev, many years later went with me to see milwaukee's version of the "Newtown" tour. She couldn't believe it and has been a huge fan ever since, and my most recent girlfriend who left me a couple of years ago(it takes me a while to get attatched) went with me to see the "Put a Spell on You" show(lucky b****) and she still goes on about how it was the best concert she had ever seen(just last week)...So...if you can beg her to go, it could convert her and if she's a cool chick what skin is it off her nose if she goes and even has a shitty time. How bad can it be...then if she doesn't like it...kill her, bury her body in a shallow grave and don't give it another thought. Thank you, thank you, thank you very much Will - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V3 #18 *************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to avalon-digest-owner@smoe.org