From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V3 #13 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, January 16 1998 Volume 03 : Number 013 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing ["Graham Howard" ] Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing ["Graham Howard" ] Re: [AVALON] RM/BF music standing the test of time ["Graham Howard" ] RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet ["Graham Howard" ] [AVALON] More on the Coward tribute/benefit album ["Garratt, Chris" ] Re: [AVALON] More on the Coward tribute/benefit album [Waltznblak ] Re: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet, Angie Bowie, #50 ["Graham Howard" <] Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing [Cynthia Levay ] Re: [AVALON] 'TAXI,' Graham and The Price of Love [JVapor7@aol.com] [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... [JVapor7@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing ["Graham Howard" ] Re: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet, Angie Bowie, #50 [David Fairley ] Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... ["Graham Howard" ] Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing [Will ] Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... [Brian Folks ] Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing [Waltznblak ] RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet [tfagan ] Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing [Waltznblak ] RE: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... [tfagan ] Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... [Gregory A Koetting Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing > From: jas2347@xsite.net > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:59:25 -0600 > To: "avalon@smoe.org" > Subject: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > Now, now, folks, let's not get to any Bowie Bashing here. Bowie has and > remains a very arresting/interesting "performer" even if he is the Man > Who Sold The World shares of his songs. His innovative work from the > early days is still resonating with a lot of bands-just ask Trent Reznor > and (if he were alive) Kurt Corbin. So he goes thru CHANGES, but at > least he gives it a good shot. Yea I'm a fan but I am a fan of Roxy too > for the same reason. They both came from a time when most of the > "popular" music was bland to say the least (especially in America). > They added some dare, glare, and glam and everthing that followed it has > not been the same. And yes both showed very good taste by having ENO as > a part of their efforts. I say Viva Roxy/Bryan and Viva Bowie. Okay > let's talk it up...... > > Jas > (43 and still kicking) > >Agreed. I'll engage in no more Bowie bashing. Graham. > > > > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:14:43 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing > From: Waltznblak > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 02:36:09 EST > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing > Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > I wasnt gonna say anything Jas, about the all this Bowie bashing, since its a > Roxy list, but I agree with you completely. Anyone who thinks Bowie has no > talent should listen to Station to Station and even to some his latest work. > At the least try to open their minds a little, but I guess in the end > everyone's entitled to his own opinion. Michele > > I do agree with you; Station to Station is a good album, one of Bowie's best. Manifesto in fact reminds me of it, although of course I think Manifesto is alot better. The whole point of "Bowie bashing" is that RM/BF come from the same stable ie they came out of a general "glamart" trend in Britain in the early seventies. Since then, Bowie and BF have been compared alot, at least in the British musical press, and there are certain similarities in music and artistic style. Another example would be Lou Reed. The same people often like all three, and the influence of Velvet Underground on RM is well known. Given the supposed similarities of these three, I think its a reasonable discussion on this list to compare them, but if I criticise DB or LR on this list of course I should expect to get flamed by fans of same. I do rate some of Bowies stuff, and indeed had some of his albums. I suppose what gets me is that IMHO RM/BF are so much better and have not reached Bowies superstar status, especially in the US. My girlfriend (American) like British artists eg Elvis Costello, Ian Drury, English Beat, UB40, Madness, Specials, Cream, Peter Greens Fleetwood Mac (ie early Fleetwood Mac), but I can get her into RM/BF no matter how hard I try. She only likes "Love is the Drug" and "Dance Away" ie two of their most commercial songs. I dont understand it. It drives me nuts! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:17:22 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RM/BF music standing the test of time > From: LizzieJim > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:16:19 EST > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] RM/BF music standing the test of time > Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org >He might not have made it that big in the US but > everytime he comes to Chicago tickets are snapped up pretty quickly. Thats nice to hear. Making it > big in the US isn't exactly a measure of taste anyway. Agreed! Another example is Family, who never made it big in the US but were brilliant. Graham. > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:26:29 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet > From: "Garratt, Chris" > To: "'avalon@smoe.org'" > Subject: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:36:08 -0000 > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > >And now a question : > > > >At the "Taxi" booklet there are some snapshots of BF. One of them is > >showing him walking up the street, half-hiding his face, with closed > >eyes. And there is a big number "50" on the house in the opposite > >side of the street. What the hell does it mean ? > > There's a good reproduction of this image at: > > http://www.pdc.kth.se/~danielw/Tobias/ferry/ferry3.html > > I presume this shot was taken in Newcastle ... perhaps a current > resident could identify the place/anything else on the building ... if > it's still there of course. > > Chris > I posted a message about this but for some reason the whole message didnt get on the list. The pictures in the booklet are of course Newcastle upon Tyne, where BF lived and studied Fine Art at Newcastle University. He also comes from near there; a "newtown" called Washington. Most avalonians probably know all this. I was lucky enough to live in Newcastle upon Tyne for a year and a half; I studied there. Its a great place. I remember I was a BF fanatic at the time and had the bio "The Bryan Ferry Story" by Rex Balfour, (which I've since heard is a pseudonymn for Ferry's publicity agent). Actually I thought the book was quite well written. Anyway in the book there are some photos of the great Bryatollah, including one of him standing outside his apartment in the "autumnal" suburb of Jesmond. I lived near Jesmond and tried to track down the arpartment from the photo (!) I never succeeded. I'll have to look at the photo you mention in the book and get back to you. Taxi is of course dedicated to Bryan's father. I get the impression this was a very personal album for Bryan, though I dont think there are any outstanding tracks on it apart from "I put a spell on you" which I think is one of his greatest... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:34:56 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet > From: "Garratt, Chris" > To: "'avalon@smoe.org'" > Subject: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:36:08 -0000 > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > >And now a question : > > > >At the "Taxi" booklet there are some snapshots of BF. One of them is > >showing him walking up the street, half-hiding his face, with closed > >eyes. And there is a big number "50" on the house in the opposite > >side of the street. What the hell does it mean ? > > There's a good reproduction of this image at: > > http://www.pdc.kth.se/~danielw/Tobias/ferry/ferry3.html > > I presume this shot was taken in Newcastle ... perhaps a current > resident could identify the place/anything else on the building ... if > it's still there of course. > > Chris > I just looked at the photo on the above given website. Its actually difficult to identify. Firstly, I think this is Newcastle rather than Washington, which is a "newtown" ie modern housing estate. I note the narrowness of the road, the terraced buildings, and especially the steep hill. There are some roads like this leading down away from the city centre to the river Tyne. I think this is where it is. Its quite a shabby area, but very interesting to walk around. Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:48:25 -0000 From: "Garratt, Chris" Subject: [AVALON] More on the Coward tribute/benefit album From an article in "The Herald" dated 9th Jan 98 on Scottish musician Craig Armstrong: "Neil Tennant of the Pet Shop Boys phoned and asked me to do a Noel Coward track with Shola Ama for an Aids benefit l.p. There'll also be a gig, featuring, among others, Annie Lennox and Bryan Ferry, to be filmed by TV later this month." Also, from "The Irish Times" dated 27th Dec. 97: "At Drums of Malahide, a pair of diamond-drop earrings reported to have once been in the possession of Queen Marie Antoinette were bought by rock star Bryan Ferry for (pounds) 2,000." - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:46:13 EST From: Waltznblak Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing That's really funny about your girlfriend. My husband shrugged off Roxy his entire life and considered himself a connisseur (sp) of music, (his favorites bieng Bob Mould and Neil Noung) including bieng a musician himself. But then he met me, haha! (evil grin) Now he loves Roxy almost as much as I do and thinks Lets Stick Together is his favorite. He likes the more punk or rock inspired aspects of Roxy Music and not the kind of ethereal sounds of say 'Avalon'. But I'm very happy to announce that he's been converted! And the best part... is when he's away, he says he puts it on to quell his loneliness and remind him of me. ~:o) Michele - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:51:40 EST From: Waltznblak Subject: Re: [AVALON] More on the Coward tribute/benefit album is this going to be aired in europe only? im in hawaii and am at the mercy of pre-recorded video. michele - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:02:01 -0500 (EST) From: JVapor7@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet, Angie Bowie, #50 I could give a shit about the number 50 on the side of some fucking building, but TAXI--you don't think "there are any outstanding tracks on it"??? Ferry did some of the greatest singing of his LIFE on this record--'Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow,' 'Answer Me,' 'Girl of my Best Friend,' and the title cut--which is actually BETTER than the J.Blackfoot original--a very rare thing when a white singer improves upon a black one. The key is that Ferry was singing LIVE with very few overdubs for the first time in quite awhile. It has its fair share of duds, but give 'TAXI' another chance. JIMMY - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:23:42 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing > From: Waltznblak > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:46:13 EST > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing > Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > That's really funny about your girlfriend. My husband shrugged off Roxy his > entire life and considered himself a connisseur (sp) of music, (his favorites > bieng Bob Mould and Neil Noung) including bieng a musician himself. But then > he met me, haha! (evil grin) Now he loves Roxy almost as much as I do and > thinks Lets Stick Together is his favorite. He likes the more punk or rock > inspired aspects of Roxy Music and not the kind of ethereal sounds of say > 'Avalon'. But I'm very happy to announce that he's been converted! And the > best part... is when he's away, he says he puts it on to quell his loneliness > and remind him of me. ~:o) Michele > Yeah. I envy you that you were able to convert your husband. I was hoping that once she heard the albums, which I have of course played her, she would be converted, as other people Ive introduced have been, but it just aint happened. She says she likes some of the instrumental stuff but doesnt like BFs voice; its "restrained". I said yeah, subtle; that's why I like it (!) What can I do? Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:30:17 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet, Angie Bowie, #50 > From: JVapor7@aol.com > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:02:01 -0500 (EST) > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet, Angie Bowie, #50 > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > I could give a shit about the number 50 on the side of some fucking building, > but TAXI--you don't think "there are any outstanding tracks on it"??? Ferry > did some of the greatest singing of his LIFE on this record--'Will You Still > Love Me Tomorrow,' 'Answer Me,' 'Girl of my Best Friend,' and the title > cut--which is actually BETTER than the J.Blackfoot original--a very rare > thing when a white singer improves upon a black one. > The key is that Ferry was singing LIVE with very few overdubs for the first > time in quite awhile. > It has its fair share of duds, but give 'TAXI' another chance. > > JIMMY > I'm not sure whether the above is directed at me. It was not me who mentioned the 50, but I think it could be a point worthy of discussion. I did say that I thought "I put a spell on you" is one of his best ever, and the album is worth buying just for that track. I have to disagree with you about the tracks you mention, but "All Tomorrows Parties" is quite good, and so is "Rescue me". The other tracks dont do much for me, and his version of "Amazing Grace" is a real dud. I maintain that apart from IPASOY there is nothing outstanding on the album. Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:54:03 -0500 (EST) From: Cynthia Levay Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing Cynthia Levay, Student of Library and Information Science Vax: levay_c@scsu.ctstateu.edu Sun: levay@orion.scsu.ctstateu.edu http://www.scsu-cs.ctstateu.edu/~levay Phone: 203-776-9026 Fax: 203-392-5780 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Graham Howard wrote: > > From: Waltznblak > > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:46:13 EST > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing > > Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) > > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > > That's really funny about your girlfriend. My husband shrugged off Roxy his > > entire life and considered himself a connisseur (sp) of music, (his favorites > > bieng Bob Mould and Neil Noung) including bieng a musician himself. But then > > he met me, haha! (evil grin) Now he loves Roxy almost as much as I do and > > thinks Lets Stick Together is his favorite. He likes the more punk or rock > > inspired aspects of Roxy Music and not the kind of ethereal sounds of say > > 'Avalon'. But I'm very happy to announce that he's been converted! And the > > best part... is when he's away, he says he puts it on to quell his loneliness > > and remind him of me. ~:o) Michele > > > Yeah. I envy you that you were able to convert your husband. I was > hoping that once she heard the albums, which I have of course played > her, she would be converted, as other people Ive introduced have > been, but it just aint happened. She says she likes some of the > instrumental stuff but doesnt like BFs voice; its "restrained". I > said yeah, subtle; that's why I like it (!) I think that BF has amazing control over his voice. At times I find it very seducing. > > What can I do? What to do? Keep trying, your friend will eventually se the light. If not, end it and move on! :) Cynthia- > Graham. > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:25:51 -0500 (EST) From: JVapor7@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'TAXI,' Graham and The Price of Love Dear Graham, I guess this means your wife won't be hearing it. JIMMY you kiss one girl you kiss another kiss them all but you won't recover.... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:43:17 -0500 (EST) From: JVapor7@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... Another dumb contest-- being a hopeless romantic myself, I would like to know what Ferry/Roxy song you think is the most romantic. ONE TITLE ONLY PLEASE Jimmy - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:24:54 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:54:03 -0500 (EST) > From: Cynthia Levay > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > > Cynthia Levay, Student of Library and Information Science > Vax: levay_c@scsu.ctstateu.edu > Sun: levay@orion.scsu.ctstateu.edu > http://www.scsu-cs.ctstateu.edu/~levay > Phone: 203-776-9026 Fax: 203-392-5780 > > On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Graham Howard wrote: > > > > From: Waltznblak > > > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:46:13 EST > > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing > > > Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) > > > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > > > > That's really funny about your girlfriend. My husband shrugged off Roxy his > > > entire life and considered himself a connisseur (sp) of music, (his favorites > > > bieng Bob Mould and Neil Noung) including bieng a musician himself. But then > > > he met me, haha! (evil grin) Now he loves Roxy almost as much as I do and > > > thinks Lets Stick Together is his favorite. He likes the more punk or rock > > > inspired aspects of Roxy Music and not the kind of ethereal sounds of say > > > 'Avalon'. But I'm very happy to announce that he's been converted! And the > > > best part... is when he's away, he says he puts it on to quell his loneliness > > > and remind him of me. ~:o) Michele > > > > > Yeah. I envy you that you were able to convert your husband. I was > > hoping that once she heard the albums, which I have of course played > > her, she would be converted, as other people Ive introduced have > > been, but it just aint happened. She says she likes some of the > > instrumental stuff but doesnt like BFs voice; its "restrained". I > > said yeah, subtle; that's why I like it (!) > > I think that BF has amazing control over his voice. At times I find it > very seducing. > > > > > What can I do? > > What to do? Keep trying, your friend will eventually se the light. If > not, end it and move on! :) > > Cynthia- > > > > Graham. > > Thanks for your thoughts. I will keep trying. I er think it might be a bit drastic to er end it cos of this (!). But I am amazed at how upset I am that she doesnt like BF/RM. Its totally irrational. I dont know why it is so important to me. We have had arguments about it. Its not as if our tastes dont overlap; they do. We do indeed have some common musical tastes eg jazz, Jimi Hendrix, Cream. She says she doesnt have a problem that I dont like some of her music eg I cant stand country & western, so why cant I accept that she doesnt like BF/RM? For some reason its important to me, and it upsets me emotionally that she doesnt like em (?!) I think its cos Ive like em so much for such a long period of time, more than any other artist(s). I see you are a library student. I am a librarian. Maybe we should form a RM/BF avalon sub-group. Graham. > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:52:31 +1300 (NZDT) From: David Fairley Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet, Angie Bowie, #50 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Graham Howard wrote: > > From: JVapor7@aol.com > > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:02:01 -0500 (EST) > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet, Angie Bowie, #50 > > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > > I could give a shit about the number 50 on the side of some fucking building, > > but TAXI--you don't think "there are any outstanding tracks on it"??? Ferry > > did some of the greatest singing of his LIFE on this record--'Will You Still > > Love Me Tomorrow,' 'Answer Me,' 'Girl of my Best Friend,' and the title > > cut--which is actually BETTER than the J.Blackfoot original--a very rare > > thing when a white singer improves upon a black one. > > The key is that Ferry was singing LIVE with very few overdubs for the first > > time in quite awhile. > > It has its fair share of duds, but give 'TAXI' another chance. > > > > JIMMY > > > I'm not sure whether the above is directed at me. It was not me who > mentioned the 50, but I think it could be a point worthy of > discussion. I did say that I thought "I put a spell on you" is one > of his best ever, and the album is worth buying just for that track. > I have to disagree with you about the tracks you mention, but "All > Tomorrows Parties" is quite good, and so is "Rescue me". The other > tracks dont do much for me, and his version of "Amazing Grace" is a > real dud. I maintain that apart from IPASOY there is nothing > outstanding on the album. > > Graham. Just to add my 10 cents worth...it seems Bryan did make some unusual choices of covers on this album, viz. Will You Still Love Me.. and as you mention, Graham, Amazing Grace...but as we've discussed before this is nothing new...in my opinion Bryan's most uninspired choice was "You Are My Sunshine" on ATAP. However on the whole I really enjoy Taxi's swirly mystical sound...IPASOY, Girl of My Best Friend, Answer Me and Rescue Me being the stand out tracks IMHO of course. dave. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:31:16 -0500 From: "HUGH O'DONNELL" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing Graham Howard wrote: > > From: Waltznblak > > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 02:36:09 EST > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing > > Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) > > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > > I wasnt gonna say anything Jas, about the all this Bowie bashing, > since its a > > Roxy list, but I agree with you completely. Anyone who thinks Bowie > has no > > talent should listen to Station to Station and even to some his > latest work. > > At the least try to open their minds a little, but I guess in the > end > > everyone's entitled to his own opinion. Michele > > > I do agree with you; Station to Station is a good album, one of > Bowie's best. Manifesto in fact reminds me of it, although of course > I think Manifesto is alot better. > > The whole point of "Bowie bashing" is that RM/BF come from the same > stable ie they came out of a general "glamart" trend in Britain in > the early seventies. Since then, Bowie and BF have been compared > alot, at least in the British musical press, and there are certain > similarities in music and artistic style. Another example would be > Lou Reed. The same people often like all three, and the influence of > Velvet Underground on RM is well known. Given the supposed > similarities of these three, I think its a reasonable discussion on > this list to compare them, but if I criticise DB or LR on this > list of course I should expect to get flamed by fans of same. > > I do rate some of Bowies stuff, and indeed had some of his albums. > I suppose what gets me is that IMHO RM/BF are so much better and > have not reached Bowies superstar status, especially in the US. > > My girlfriend (American) like British artists eg Elvis Costello, Ian > Drury, English Beat, UB40, Madness, Specials, Cream, Peter Greens > Fleetwood Mac (ie early Fleetwood Mac), but I can get her into RM/BF > no matter how hard I try. She only likes "Love is the Drug" and > "Dance Away" ie two of their most commercial songs. I dont > understand it. It drives me nuts! > Those two songs were overplayed in North America....They played a lot > on a.m stations here!!!! > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:51:15 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... > From: JVapor7@aol.com > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:43:17 -0500 (EST) > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > Another dumb contest-- > > being a hopeless romantic myself, I would like to know what Ferry/Roxy song > you think is the most romantic. > ONE TITLE ONLY PLEASE > > Jimmy > Bette Noire Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:50:10 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'TAXI,' Graham and The Price of Love > From: JVapor7@aol.com > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:25:51 -0500 (EST) > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'TAXI,' Graham and The Price of Love > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > Dear Graham, > > I guess this means your wife won't be hearing it. > JIMMY > > you kiss one girl > you kiss another > kiss them all > but you won't recover.... > > Right on! Graham. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:54:45 +0500 From: "Graham Howard" Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet, Angie Bowie, #50 > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:52:31 +1300 (NZDT) > From: David Fairley > Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet, Angie Bowie, #50 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Cc: avalon@smoe.org > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org Just to add my 10 cents worth...it seems Bryan did make some unusual > choices of covers on this album, viz. Will You Still Love Me.. and as you > mention, Graham, Amazing Grace...but as we've discussed before this is > nothing new...in my opinion Bryan's most uninspired choice was "You Are > My Sunshine" on ATAP. However on the whole I really enjoy Taxi's swirly > mystical sound...IPASOY, Girl of My Best Friend, Answer Me and Rescue Me > being the stand out tracks IMHO of course. > dave. > Agreed; some of his "interpretations" on his previous covers have been a bit naf. IMHO, the uptempo ones are the most consistantly successful eg Hard Rain, Sympathy for the Devil, In Crowd; whereas the ballards are more patchy. > > Graham. > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:47:03 -0600 From: Will Subject: Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... Graham Howard wrote: > > > From: JVapor7@aol.com > > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:43:17 -0500 (EST) > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... > > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > > Another dumb contest-- > > > > being a hopeless romantic myself, I would like to know what Ferry/Roxy song > > you think is the most romantic. > > > Jimmy > > > Bette Noire > > Graham. > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon I love the Parisian flavor of that one myself. Like that title. Very cool. That term has a lot of subtle meaning. I'd have to add though, Your Painted Smile. Ooooh Baby! Will Will Will - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:33:04 -0600 From: Will Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing Graham Howard wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:54:03 -0500 (EST) > > From: Cynthia Levay > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing > > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > > > > > > Cynthia Levay, Student of Library and Information Science > > Vax: levay_c@scsu.ctstateu.edu > > Sun: levay@orion.scsu.ctstateu.edu > > http://www.scsu-cs.ctstateu.edu/~levay > > Phone: 203-776-9026 Fax: 203-392-5780 > > > > On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Graham Howard wrote: > > > > > > From: Waltznblak > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:46:13 EST > > > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing > > > > Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) > > > > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > > > > > > That's really funny about your girlfriend. My husband shrugged off Roxy his > > > > entire life and considered himself a connisseur (sp) of music, (his favorites > > > > bieng Bob Mould and Neil Noung) including bieng a musician himself. But then > > > > he met me, haha! (evil grin) Now he loves Roxy almost as much as I do and > > > > thinks Lets Stick Together is his favorite. He likes the more punk or rock > > > > inspired aspects of Roxy Music and not the kind of ethereal sounds of say > > > > 'Avalon'. But I'm very happy to announce that he's been converted! And the > > > > best part... is when he's away, he says he puts it on to quell his loneliness > > > > and remind him of me. ~:o) Michele > > > > > > > Yeah. I envy you that you were able to convert your husband. I was > > > hoping that once she heard the albums, which I have of course played > > > her, she would be converted, as other people Ive introduced have > > > been, but it just aint happened. She says she likes some of the > > > instrumental stuff but doesnt like BFs voice; its "restrained". I > > > said yeah, subtle; that's why I like it (!) > > > > I think that BF has amazing control over his voice. At times I find it > > very seducing. > > > > > > > > What can I do? > > > > What to do? Keep trying, your friend will eventually se the light. If > > not, end it and move on! :) > > > > Cynthia- > > > > > > > Graham. > > > > Thanks for your thoughts. I will keep trying. I er think it might be > a bit drastic to er end it cos of this (!). But I am amazed at how > upset I am that she doesnt like BF/RM. Its totally irrational. I OK either you love Bryan Ferry or you don't, you'll get over her. Dump her and get on with your life. Will - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:58:14 -0800 From: Brian Folks Subject: Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... JVapor7@aol.com wrote: > being a hopeless romantic myself, I would like to know what Ferry/Roxy song > you think is the most romantic. > ONE TITLE ONLY PLEASE > Jimmy #1 Most Romantic Song Ever Written - To Turn You On. Period. End of discussion. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:04:45 +1300 (NZDT) From: David Fairley Subject: Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Graham Howard wrote: > > From: JVapor7@aol.com > > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:43:17 -0500 (EST) > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... > > Reply-to: avalon@smoe.org > > > Another dumb contest-- > > > > being a hopeless romantic myself, I would like to know what Ferry/Roxy song > > you think is the most romantic. > > ONE TITLE ONLY PLEASE > > > > Jimmy Most romantic RM song without a doubt "Oh Yeah" in a bitter-sweet kind of way.Closely followed by "Take a Chance With Me" and "To Turn You On". Sorry, that's three titles. dave. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:49:57 EST From: ASchulberg Subject: [AVALON] Level of Activity Well, I'll be offline for a week or so but I just wanted to say that after months and months when it seemed that AVALON was really a place for the dead, the recent spate of activity is most heartening. Keep the flow going and I'll check back in later this month. Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:24:23 EST From: Waltznblak Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing get a new girlfriend??? (just kidding) hehe - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 98 23:26:06 PST From: tfagan Subject: RE: [AVALON] The "Taxi" booklet graham said: Taxi is of course dedicated to Bryan's father. I get the impression this was a very personal album for Bryan... i say: is of course dedicated to his MOTHER... - --from one who absolutely adores "amazing grace" because i can hear bryan smiling while he's singing it. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:36:28 EST From: Waltznblak Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Bashing i know the answer to that... because music is what drives the soul and if your souls are not sympatico then you will always feel detatched, especially when the music you are referring to has such a major impact on you emotionally. my first husband and i had nothing in common musically and i was miserable until i left him. (among other reasons of course) but i look back and music was the biggest thing that drove us apart. it ultimately came down to the fact that we had none of the same friends or interests at all and the music was at the root of it. michele - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 98 23:57:43 PST From: tfagan Subject: RE: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... "windswept" - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:03:16 +0000 From: Gregory A Koetting Subject: Re: [AVALON] L'amour, toujours l'amour... No, "True to Life," and thus ends the discussion.. :) greggie Brian Folks wrote: > JVapor7@aol.com wrote: > > > being a hopeless romantic myself, I would like to know what Ferry/Roxy song > > you think is the most romantic. > > ONE TITLE ONLY PLEASE > > Jimmy > > #1 Most Romantic Song Ever Written - To Turn You On. Period. End of > discussion. > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:19:59 -0600 From: "Stovall, Fletcher C. CW2" Subject: [AVALON] Most Romantic Song I realize that perhaps this choice seems a bit too obvious and all the more so because it actually is one of the few RM songs to receive any notice here in the States, but I'll have to go with- AVALON!!! Cole - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 02:57:03 -0500 From: John Fohrman Subject: [AVALON] RE: Supposedly, Bowie bashing and the "50" photograph FOR THOSE WITH BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH THEIR TIME, HERE IS THE "AUTO SUMMARY" MICROSOFT WORD PRODUCED OF THE FULL TEXT OF THIS E-MAIL: (The grammer checker now notes the previous was a "Long Sentence" and the spell checker chimes in that I have, indeed spelt grammer wrong - or would that be wrongly?) The resultant "recovered text" thusby previously mentioned then contained every mistake I had previously made -- and they were numerous -- along with each subsequent correction. Peace & Love All - -- Theories abound; here's my 2 cents (would that "exchange to 1 p?) I'm not too clear about the Bowie or any other respectable group bashing (although I admit to understanding the distaste for John Tesh). (Pardon the Anglophile inflection.) (For an explanation, please refer to the Unabomber Manifesto. is correct: Welcome, Pavel. HERE'S THE FULL TEXT FOR THE REST OF US: [Let it be known that a certain product, hereto referred to as "Microsoft Word Mail" trashed the following piece of mind dump, leading me to chase down a temporary file containing the garbled contents and resurrecting it in Microsoft Word, which now includes the option of "recovering text from any file", which of course it knows is necessary because of such frequent occasions such as the one I am now experiencing. (The grammer checker now notes the previous was a "Long Sentence" and the spell checker chimes in that I have, indeed spelt grammer wrong - or would that be wrongly?) The resultant "recovered text" thusby previously mentioned then contained every mistake I had previously made -- and they were numerous -- along with each subsequent correction. To further complicate this drivel, when I edited it - - say that 10 times fast -- MS Word became confused as to what was what I considered to be the actual contents of my intended document and it's shorthand for a corrected document. I am in the information trade and experience such adventures on a fairly constant basis, which is why I don't write you wonderful folks much.] Peace & Love All -- Theories abound; here's my 2 cents (would that "exchange to 1 p?) I'm not too clear about the Bowie or any other respectable group bashing (although I admit to understanding the distaste for John Tesh). Perhaps part of the bashing is to greater deify our idol, which is all a bit silly now, isn't it? (Pardon the Anglophile inflection.) Or that we feel he should be as commercially successful as Bowie or of course the evil Jagger. But then Bryan might become pressured to participate in such unforgettable productions as "Dancin' in the Streets". [Okay, I liked it, just because of Motown and even Grateful Dead connection, and because of Bowie and Jagger being such characatures (would someone spell this for me, please?) of themselves. I think it would have been even cooler if they did one of those Face/Off acts (like Cage/Travolta), but I digress.] In other words, Bowie bashing is inherently evil, not because of Bowie's respectable talent, but because of the implication that the "The Classy One" should receive more commercial success. (For an explanation, please refer to the Unabomber Manifesto. (I particularly like http://www.panix.com/~clays/Una/index.html because of it's mysterious origin, utterly generic appearance, and thoughtfully anal-retentive hypertext, leaving us to wonder if it is, in fact, the work of Ted himself.) But I digress. As far as the "50" photograph goes, I am convinced that one of the theories is correct: 1. Paul is, in fact, indeed dead. 2. Bryan and the photographer decided to put some funky clothes on him and ham it up in a weird choice of settings, so that we may be inspired to have this very discussion. Welcome, Pavel. I hope you understand from this submission that you can not possibly be a dick. P.S. I hope that at least one person found this e-mail the slightest bit amusing. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V3 #13 *************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to avalon-digest-owner@smoe.org