From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V2 #35 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, October 23 1997 Volume 02 : Number 035 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] In My Mind [JHLRock@aol.com] [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V2 #34 [jas2347@xsite.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:55:06 -0400 (EDT) From: JHLRock@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] In My Mind Hello. It has been a bit quiet in here, except for the "ads" that wound up here the other day. Just wanted to say that I've been a Roxy fan since '81 but just this year REALLY started to get into them more and Brian's "solo" work. Really I don't see much of a difference between his efforts both with the band or without. I think he's grown considerably since the early Roxy days, with Mamouna being quite possibly his best work yet. I just picked up "In Your Mind" over the weekend though. I had never heard it before. What a great record! "Love Me Madly Again" & "Tokyo Joe" really stick out after several listens, and I love the different sound of "This is Tomorrow". Anyway, just thought I'd drop in and spew for a bit. Cheers! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:27:32 -0500 From: jas2347@xsite.net Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V2 #34 avalon-digest wrote: > > avalon-digest Wednesday, October 22 1997 Volume 02 : Number 034 > > Today's Subjects: > ----------------- > [AVALON] Natural Life Cycle of Mailing Lists [Brian Folks > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:20:12 -0700 > From: Brian Folks > Subject: [AVALON] Natural Life Cycle of Mailing Lists > > (This is worth a repeat. B-) > THE NATURAL LIFE CYCLE OF MAILING LISTS > > by Kat Nagel KatNagel@eznet.net > (Presented without permission of the author) > > Every list seems to go through the same cycle: > > Strong lnitial enthusiasm (people introduce themselves, and gush a lot > about how wonderful it is to find kindred souls). > > Evangelism (people moan about how few folks are posting to the list, and > > brainstorm recruitment strategies). > > Growth (more and more people join, more and more lengthy threads > develop, occasional off-topic threads pop up). > > Community (lots of threads, some more relevant than others; lots of > information and advice is exchanged; experts help other experts as well > as less experienced colleagues; friendships develop; people tease each > other; newcomers are welcomed with generosity and patience; everyone -- > newbie and expert alike -- feels comfortable asking questions, > suggesting answers, and sharing opinions). > > Discomfort with diversity (the number of messages increases > dramatically; not every thread is fascinating to every reader; people > start complaining about the signal-to-noise ratio; person 1 threatens to > quit if *other* people don't limit discussion to person 1's pet topic; > person 2 agrees with person 1; person 3 tells 1 & 2 to lighten up; more > bandwidth is wasted complaining about off-topic threads than is used for > the threads themselves; everyone gets annoyed). > > Finally: > > Smug complacency and stagnation (the purists flame everyone who asks an > 'old' question or responds with humor to a serious post; newbies are > rebuffed; traffic drops to a doze-producing level of a few minor issues; > all interesting discussions happen by private email and are limited to a > few participants; the purists spend lots of time self-righteously > congratulating each other on keeping off-topic threads off the list). > > Maturity (a few people quit in a huff; the rest of the participants stay > > near stage 4, with stage 5 popping up briefly every few weeks; many > people wear out their second or third 'delete' key, but the list lives > contentedly ever after). > > - -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ------------------------------ > > End of avalon-digest V2 #34 > *************************** > > ======================================================================== > Please send any questions or comments about the list to > avalon-digest-owner@smoe.org Oh so true-to life. Jas in Chicago - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V2 #35 *************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to avalon-digest-owner@smoe.org