From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V10 #96 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Sunday, September 4 2005 Volume 10 : Number 096 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NPR: Re: letters ["Dave Harty" ] public domain PR [KrodKnid@aol.com] In Search Of... [SuperSean@aol.com] Poe music and video you can watch and listen to [Dan98908@aol.com] Any suggestions: Yahoo too slow [Dan98908@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 08:02:33 EDT From: "Dave Harty" Subject: NPR: Re: letters Would it be possible, when responding to letters on the list, not reposting the entire text of the previous letters? I get email on my phone, and the first letter in the digest took up all of the room because it had two or three other letters on it. -D ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 08:36:27 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: public domain PR In that it almost certainly has a lot to do with Poe's "industry weasel" problems...and also with that dude who she described as representing an "oil-igarchy". **************************************************************************** The Public Domain - Here Today, Gone Tomorrow By Lawrence Lessig September/October 2005 Within every culture, there is a public domainba lawyer-free zone, unregulated by the rules of copyright. Throughout history, this part of culture has been vital to the spread and development of creative work. It is the part that gets cultivated without the permission of anyone else. This public domain has always lived alongside a private domainbthe part of culture that is owned and regulated, that part whose use requires the permission of someone else. Through the market incentives it creates, the private domain has also produced extraordinary cultural wealth throughout the world. It is essential to how cultures develop. Traditionally, the law has kept these two domains in balance. The term of copyright was relatively short, and its reach was essentially commercial. But a fundamental change in the scope and nature of copyright law, inspired by a radical change in technology, now threatens this balance. Digital technologies have made it easybindeed, too easy bfor creative work in the private domain to spread without permission. Piracy is rampant on the highways of digital technology. In response, code writers (both legislators and technologists) have created an unprecedented array of weapons (both legal and technical) to wage war on the pirates and restore control to the owners of culture. Yet the control these weapons will produce is far greater than anything we have seen in our past. So, for example, the United States has radically increased the reach of copyright regulation. And through the World Intellectual Property Organization, wealthy countries everywhere are pushing to impose even tighter restrictions on the rest of the world. These legal measures will soon be supplemented by extraordinary technologies that will secure to the owners of culture almost perfect control over how btheir propertyb is used. Any balance between public and private will thus be lost. The private domain will swallow the public domain. And the cultivation of culture and creativity will then be dictated by those who claim to own it. There is no doubt that piracy is an important problemb itbs just not the only problem. Our leaders have lost this sense of balance. They have been seduced by a vision of culture that measures beauty in ticket sales. They are apparently untroubled by a world where cultivating the past requires the permission of the past. They can't imagine that freedom could produce anything worthwhile at all. The danger remains invisible to most, hidden by the zeal of a war on piracy. And that is how the public domain may die a quiet death, extinguished by self-righteous extremism, long before many even recognize it is gone. Lawrence Lessig is professor of law at Stanford University. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 13:25:00 EDT From: SuperSean@aol.com Subject: In Search Of... the three new POE song with Conjure one... actually, two.. I just found Extraordinary Way and I am in LOVE :) Anyway, wanted to know if anyone out there had them in mp3 format, and wanted to help a psycho out.. I know, I know.. go buy the damn album.. but that's like $16, which is half my tank ($3.30/gallon here in Jersey :( The following is a list of Poe songs I have for trade if anyone needs them.. and a list of Poe songs I NEED (If anyone has them) THANK YOU ALL! :D - -S I HAVE: 5 1/2 Minute Hallway 5 1/2 Minute Hallway Brad Walsh's Standard Remix Amazed Angry Johnny Anywhere But Here (Score by Danny Elfman) Another World Beautiful Girl Center Of The Sun Center Of The Sun (Peter Lorimer's 29 Psalms Mix) Center Of The Sun (Solarstone's Chilled Out Remix) Center Of The Sun (Junkie XL Mix) Choking The Cherry Control Control (Apocalypse Mix) Control (Neptin Mix) Could've Gone Mad Dear Johnny Dolphin Exploration B Extraordinary Way Feels Like Home Fingertips Fly Away Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer Haunted Haunted (Chris Vrenna Tweaker Remix) Hello Hello (E-Smoove Funk Mix) Hello (Edge Facotr Mix) Hello (Basico Mix) Hello (Generator Mix) Hello (Modern Mix) Hello (German Radio Edit) Hello (Nevins Electronica Mix) Hello (Tribal Mix) Hello (Sky Tribe Mix DJ Shad) Hey Pretty Hey Pretty (Drive By 2001 Mix) House Of Leaves How Long (Live) I Cant Say No If You Were Here Junkie Lemon Meringue Lemon Meringue (Beautiful Assassins Remix) Lemon Meringue (Brad Wash's Trailer Trash Mix) Make A Wish Make A Wish (DJ Gabriel's Mix) My Lips Are Sealed Not A Virgin Padre Fear Rise And Shine Intro Rise And Shine Rise And Shine (Levar's Lullaby) A Rose Is A Rose Spanish Doll Spanish Doll (Natural Flavors Mix) Strange Wind Terrible Thought Terrified Heart That Day Today Trigger Happy Jack (Drive By A Go-Go) Trigger Happy Jack (Acoustic Version) Trigger Happy Jack (Live) Trigger Happy Jack (Drive-By Remix) Trigger Happy Jack (Psycho Demolition Mix) Walk The Walk Which Way To The Top? Wild Wild (Radio Remix) NEED: Angry Johnny (Psycho Breakdown Edit) Angry Johnny (Fade Edit) Hello (Maxi Edit) Hello (Band Version) Hello (Edge Factor Dub Mix) Hello (Generator Beat Down Mix) Hello (Neptin Mix) Monkey On My Back Trigger Happy Jack (Only Poe Mix) Wild (DJ Folgers Dub) NEW CONJURE ONE SONG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 16:12:04 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Poe music and video you can watch and listen to Getting ready to see what will be needed to show a full blown Poe concert. I will be testing a number of things... here is what you will need to do if you want to watch.... Get Yahoo Messenger and add Angry_psycho2005 to your buddy list AND request to be added to the Angry_Psycho2005 buddy list. The ONLY way you will be able to watch the web cast is to be on that buddy list. The deal we made with Poe, Fishkin and MTV is that only APs would be using the footage. I will be testing with a lot of clips and music from the archives from navelsex. When I am playing something to test you will see "Poe's on now" beside the screen name on your buddy list. I will make an effort to be at the Thursday chats to play what is requested there for the next few weeks to see if it is something you guys even WANT! If you get a message that says the cam is full keep trying, if I see anyone camped out I reserve the right to boot them if they do not answer an IM ---not trying to be a pain but since only 30 can view at a time it is not fair for you to take a slot and not be watching or listening. Due to the hiatus Poe is taking I have a feeling that the cam will not be full often ---but I would really LOVE to be wrong on THAT! If it does become a problem I will set up a site that can hold 500. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 20:38:57 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Any suggestions: Yahoo too slow The video on Yahoo is the pits, I am going to see about setting up a stream on my company website. I have to learn how but think I can do it, I will continue to test on Yahoo, but not happy with it so far. ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V10 #96 ***********************************