From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V8 #210 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, September 29 2003 Volume 08 : Number 210 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NPR: for Wes ["Abigail Drake" ] Re: for Wes ["DesertOpal" ] Re:NPR help [Spidersrcute2@aol.com] Test Email... DELTETE [Cyberfan Corporation ] Looking for AP / POE artwork... [Cyberfan Corporation ] Re: the 'other' wes [Wes Overall ] Re: why the BBS needs to be fixed soon ["Megan Denny" Subject: NPR: for Wes First of all, just because you're a kid doesn't mean that your problems/struggles are any less important. Especially this one. Second, I understand what you're going through. I'm bi, I "came out" at 15. At that time, I was actually in a relatively tolerant school but the next year I moved. Small town, USA, the football team was made up of gods, etc. I got harassed on a daily basis...probably not as much as you because I'm female & this country tends to accept bisexual women more easily than homosexual men....every straight man's fantasy is two chics (yes, I realize this is not true for EVERY straight man, it's just an expression) If you need someone to talk to off the list, please feel free to email me at Porinthia@hotmail.com (it's a very public addy so if by any chance you're message gets bounced, just try again the next day, I check my email at least twice daily & make sure you tell me who you are in the subject line, otherwise I'll delete it without opening it) You may also want to check out this message board http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/discussion_list.asp?boardID=45679 it's for Gay/Lesbians Teens. I host a few boards on that site & it's a great place to be, lots of friendly/helpful people. You might also want to consider contacting your local PFLAG (http://www.pflag.org/) chapter & see if they can help at all with the situation at your school. Best of Luck ~ Abi "This isn't just about having someone to wake up next to,...It's about trusting someone else not to hurt you, even if you're sure they will. It's about being trustworthy, and not leaving when it gets weird." ~Poppy Z. Brite("Drawing Blood") "The average is the borderline that keeps mere men in their place. Those who step over the line are heroes by the very act. Go." ~ Henry Rollins("Solipsist") - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:14:25 -0700 From: "DesertOpal" Subject: Re: for Wes thats my girl...lol - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Abigail Drake" To: Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 11:37 PM Subject: NPR: for Wes > > First of all, just because you're a kid doesn't mean that your > problems/struggles are any less important. Especially this one. > > Second, I understand what you're going through. I'm bi, I "came out" at > 15. At that time, I was actually in a relatively tolerant school but the > next year I moved. Small town, USA, the football team was made up of > gods, etc. I got harassed on a daily basis...probably not as much as you > because I'm female & this country tends to accept bisexual women more > easily than homosexual men....every straight man's fantasy is two chics > (yes, I realize this is not true for EVERY straight man, it's just an > expression) If you need someone to talk to off the list, please feel free > to email me at Porinthia@hotmail.com (it's a very public addy so if by > any chance you're message gets bounced, just try again the next day, I > check my email at least twice daily & make sure you tell me who you are > in the subject line, otherwise I'll delete it without opening it) You may > also want to check out this message board > http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/discussion_list.asp?boardID=45679 it's > for Gay/Lesbians Teens. I host a few boards on that site & it's a great > place to be, lots of friendly/helpful people. You might also want to > consider contacting your local PFLAG (http://www.pflag.org/) chapter & > see if they can help at all with the situation at your school. > > Best of Luck ~ Abi > > "This isn't just about having someone to wake up next to,...It's about > trusting someone else not to hurt you, even if you're sure they will. > It's about being trustworthy, and not leaving when it gets weird." ~Poppy > Z. Brite("Drawing Blood") "The average is the borderline that keeps mere > men in their place. Those who step over the line are heroes by the very > act. Go." ~ Henry Rollins("Solipsist") > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:12:37 EDT From: Spidersrcute2@aol.com Subject: Re:NPR help Wes, hang in there. Just two more years. It may seem like a lifetime now, but it will be over before you know it. I know you wish you could lash out, make them hurt like you're hurt every time they taunt you, but it's not the answer. I'm sure somewhere in your school there is a teacher that is sympathetic to you. Not your highschool football coach or male p.e. teachers. They're the biggest assholes in the bunch. Just another teacher that you can trust, that can give you shelter if things get too bad. Some class you can duck into if the bullying gets really rough. Make yourself a network of these teachers, the ones you can trust, and make sure you can get into one of their classes in less than a minute if you need to run away from something. I wish I could be there to actually talk to you in person, to give you my support in that way, much as any other A.P. wishes they could do the same for you. Working a 9-5 job has a way of curtailing any jaunts or sideline adventures on the adventurer's part though. I can't be there for you physically, but know that any time the pain gets too much, you can always turn to your keyboard and let it out to us. We'll never taunt you, belittle or hurt you. Hope this helps. Tracie Psycho in the bay ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:07:07 -0700 (MST) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: Test Email... DELTETE Tes email... Delete ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:31:28 -0700 (MST) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: Looking for AP / POE artwork... Greetings, I am looking for the girl that produces ANGRY PSYCHOS shirts a couple of years back. It was block letters with POE in the background singing into a microphone. She approved of the shirt. It had links printed on the bottom that said POE.ORG and ANGRY-PSYCHOS.COM on it... I would like to get your artwork to produce more shirts. Please contact me. Thanks You Jarrod Kniff POE.ORG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:31:58 -0700 (MST) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: Re: i need help, NPR (fwd) Dear Wes, I really want to thank you for your email. It opened my eyes to the diversity of us all and the unique gift that we all posses. That being the love of ourselves and our inherent care about others. You are not alone! I have been a suicidal person since my sophomore year in high school. My suicidal tendencies harbor around being alone and nobody caring about me. Being 33 now, I still have the thoughts. They never go away. Learning to love yourself is the key. From the tone of your email, you grasp the concept. Love for yourself... OR you wouldn't be asking for help / input on your situation. What is true and non-negotiable is the fact that life is a beautiful mystery, with a finite solution. You will die. *** High school is the toughest / roughest time in our evolution. People are very insecure at this point in their life and it is ALWAYS easier to put others down than it is to lift them up. This is why you are getting teased, harrassed, bullied, etc. The best way to gain respect from people that put you down is to give them respect. As hard as it may be and as unfair as it may seem, honor their comments with a smile and go about your business. Eventually they will get bored with picking on you (because you don't react to their comments). It takes a bigger man to love and not hate. Read about Ghandi... I don't know the size of your high school and if it is a small school, it is harder to be yourself, but understand that you are loved by many people. The only reason your friend told everybody that you were gay, in my opinion, is because she loves and cares about you. You may not agree, but it is a blessing in disguise. Its out there!!! I believe this was her goal in telling her mom. In turn, contacting the principal of your school. I agree with your opinion about the principal... He won't do shit. He can't... It is not his responsibility to protect you from mental abuse. If people are physically hurting you, that is a different story. But from what you said, nobody is beating you up. Correct me if I am wrong. *** Wes... You are who you are. Most teenagers don't understand this concept. That is why there are "clicks" in high school. Individuals searching for a common goal. Acceptance by their peers. Once again, THANK YOU -- Your email humbled me. You are more of a man than I will ever be. Walk with your head high. Much respect! Jarrod p.s. My desire is to support you with the suicidal feelings that you have. They come and go. It hits in waves. Just treat your body with respect (you are still growing). Don't get lost in alcohol and other drugs. That has been my last 10 years and I have nothing to show for it but debt and lost memories. *** >From SUICIDE.COM There are 37 "attempts" of suicide every hour of everyday in the United States. (330,000 annually). Approximately 10% are successful at taking thier own lives (30,000 people). This staggering amount of people needing help in this country and around the world is what prompted us to create this website. There are many other websites that also are there to help. You will find most of those sites listed within the pages of this website for your convenience. *** In closing... As cliche' as it may be to some, Bob Marley's Song "Three Little Birds" is the word of God to me. True Gospel... *** Don't worry about a thing, 'Cause every little thing gonna be all right. Singin': "Don't worry about a thing, 'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!" Rise up this mornin', Smiled with the risin' sun, Three little birds Pitch by my doorstep Singin' sweet songs Of melodies pure and true, Sayin', ("This is my message to you-ou-ou:") Singin': "Don't worry 'bout a thing, 'Cause every little thing gonna be all right." Singin': "Don't worry (don't worry) 'bout a thing, 'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!" Rise up this mornin', Smiled with the risin' sun, Three little birds Pitch by my doorstep Singin' sweet songs Of melodies pure and true, Sayin', "This is my message to you-ou-ou:" Singin': "Don't worry about a thing, worry about a thing, oh! Every little thing gonna be all right. Don't worry!" Singin': "Don't worry about a thing" - I won't worry! "'Cause every little thing gonna be all right." Singin': "Don't worry about a thing, 'Cause every little thing gonna be all right" - I won't worry! Singin': "Don't worry about a thing, 'Cause every little thing gonna be all right." Singin': "Don't worry about a thing, oh no! 'Cause every little thing gonna be all right! /fadeout/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:11:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Wes Overall Subject: Re: the 'other' wes Hi, I'm nbvwes... the 'other' Wes... I just wanted to write in to let those who know ME, that 'wes' isn't me, but another Wes... I've gotten several emails and a couple of phone calls from some angry-psycho pals worried about me... I am NOT that Wes... \ K, on to other news, 'Other Wes', I'm VERY sorry to hear about your problems... hang in there, we're here for ya... NBVwes (whew) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:00:44 -0500 From: "Megan Denny" Subject: Re: why the BBS needs to be fixed soon You know, I read shit on here all of the time that I really don't care about. Its simple enough to delete the e-mail without the condescending attack on dustin/daemion's personal life. A lot of us post things about our personal lives on the BBS so we're all used to it, so whether you're an ass or just not used to it, you know now and hopefully understand. Oh and by the way, anyone who wants to avoid any form of demeaning, come and post on the AngryPsycho's Random Info board while the BBS is still down. http://groups.msn.com/AngryPsychos/angrypsychos.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=124&LastModified=4675440685784904278 - -Megano From: Spud To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: why the BBS needs to be fixed soon Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:56:50 -0400 a few weeks ago i too read dustin's email to the list however i didnt feel the sympathy Poe did, I felt slightly retarded reading his message about losing that killer dream job at 7-11, never making that joint venture with the guy that dies close to your house, in fact i didnt even understand half of it...but the main thing is, it had little to do with poe, except for the fact that he complained about the BBS being down and that had been known for a day or two before dustin's silly message; if the BBS had never gone down, he probably would have posted to the BBS and it would have been lost and forgotten about by the people who read to read his thread, and many APs never would have had to read it...so i beg poes technical peeps to fix or update or whatever you need to do to get a working BBS again to save us all from boring email before i get a reply saying 'oh youre mean youre an asshole talking about a fellow AP like that' the post had little to do with poe, her music, an actual experience with poe, an imaginary experience with poe, or anything even distantly related. if you really want to hear about the traumatic lives of your fellow APs, i'll personally ask smoe.org to start a brand new mailing list poe-fans-lives@smoe.org and you can read all about the terrible unfair lives of your brothers and sisters, however i dont really want to hear it. -Spud- -- and the battles won and the planes keep winging and i'm right on time and the girl keeps singing --- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Frustrated with dial-up? 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