From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V8 #194 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Thursday, September 11 2003 Volume 08 : Number 194 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPR: Copyright Funny ["matthew clark" ] KPR: COTS single / more bitching... [Davey08@aol.com] RE: NPR: HOL hex code ["Jason Capriotti" ] [none] ["DesertOpal" ] KPR: Wedding [jadeshamrock@comcast.net] RE: HOL hex code [Michele ] what to do [Spud ] Re: Petition [D G ] NPR: Good GUI for MySQL [Cyberfan Corporation ] Re: NPR: 9/11/01 Timeline [Doxiegrl1@aol.com] Re: NPR: Good GUI for MySQL [Ed ] RE: HOL hex code [Ed ] bbs ruined my day ["dustin fabricante" ] RE: HOL hex code ["Jason Capriotti" ] Re: bbs ruined my day [Dan98908@aol.com] Concert Agenda [JOE O NELSON ] NPR: wedding ["DesertOpal" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:39:43 +0000 From: "matthew clark" Subject: Re: NPR: Copyright Funny You know why RIAA is so pissed, because most people see through their bullshit fake Music they throw at us. I'm sorry but cd sells have been going down because the music they push sux. There are bands out there that still do sell a crap load of cd and you can't tell me they havn't been downloaded, if downloading was a major problem who would buy cd's. Most people DL to check out a band or get versions of songs they don't have. If a band is good like of course our POE it really dosn't matter if it's downloaded because you still going to buy the cd if it's good. I think POE has gotten alot of internet fans over the years, cause lord knows her record company never would help for crap. Records company's just use everyone for their profit line, if an artist doesn't make a certian profit line on an album or starts off to a bad start on album then the they wash their hands of them. There is only one record company that I have any respect for and that's DreamWorks and for the only reason that they have kept the eels on all these years. The Eels don't sell crap comparied to the pop junk, but Mr E. is able to get a profit even if it is small. DreamWorks have kept them on because of hard core fans that buy every album and trust me we all download songs, but I still by their album because it rocks. So Screw RIAA and all of the Deep Pockets that they stand for. >From: Sharonda220@aol.com >To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org >Subject: NPR: Copyright Funny >Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 22:23:25 EDT > > >I found this on a message board and I just thought it was funny. > >"The Knotton-Likely Herald & Tribune" reports that a 6 strong squad of the >RIAA's Kwik-Response-Team arrested 10 copyright offenders at a student flat >in >earlier today. > >Bundled into sound-proofed, anti-magnetic vans, the evil perverters of >society were taken for interorgation at the Guantanomo Bay Copyright >Criminal >holding facility, and any survivors will stand trial later this week, >announced Ivor >Nagenda, head of the RIAA's newly formed "Copyright Protection Squad". > >"These ... people ... were crammed into a single room, eating food and >drinking and listening to a CD. Only one of the persons present had >actually >paid >for the CD, this represents a loss of 10 times the CD retail price and is >among >one of the more serious crimes we've had to deal with this week" > >In another incident, a student passing by an open window heard almost 3 >minutes of a song he had not paid for. "We intend to exact just and fitting >retribution for this evil crime" explained Dr Feelsbad Allrighty, inventor >of >the >memory-erasing device which the RIAA hope to make compulsary at the exit to >every >live concert held in the western world. "Thousands of thieves stream out of >the doors at the end of every live music concert", he explained. "The >concert >ticket fee only covers the right to listen to the copyrighted matireal >during >the performance - what's to stop any one of those concert-goers from >replaying >the songs in their head, at any time, or even giving un-authorised public >performances by whistling or humming. It has to be stamped out, and we >intend >to >do just that". > >A Microsoft representative denied that the memory erasure device would be >integrated into Foghorn Leghorn, the upcoming release of the companies >proprietary user-abuse system. > >The spate of RIAA Copyright _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:35:30 -0400 From: Davey08@aol.com Subject: KPR: COTS single / more bitching... The COTS single kicks ass, but question, what single for a song doesn't have the song on it? Isn't that kind of the point of having the single, to "single" the song out of the album? Now I know I should just go and buy Conjure One, but for now, I'm gonna bitch. Also I'd like to ask everybody a question, when you reply to a post, is it really necessary to re-send the entire original? I just read the last digest, and at least three of the letters included four original posts tacked on the bottom, now you can't expect me to believe your letter is responding to all that. The digest was like triple length because of these. Not to mention the fact that we've all seen the originals, there's no need to reprint them! If you want to answer a point, copy just the point into your post, not the entire text of the letter. Dave P.S. POE!!!! Good to see you again! I hope to top my cursor chasing keys before I see you in person again. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:38:30 -0500 From: "Jason Capriotti" Subject: RE: NPR: HOL hex code I thought I was the one that did that? Maybe myself and Notajunkie both did it at the same time? Oh well... regardless, we both came up with a file that sounds exactly the same, and it looks like we both used the same process. - ------------------------------ Date: 09 Sep 2003 22:08:29 -0400 From: Ed Subject: Re: NPR: HOL hex code Notajunkie converted the hex awhile back and got a resulting .aif file. I've pulled it off the old backups of poe.navelsex.com and made it available (http://poe.navelsex.com) Below is the textfile explaining it. Lisa, if you come up with something different, I'd love to get a copy of it to put up there as well. :) I've also posted copies of Anything (as was requested too long ago.) Sorry about the delay. Life gets hectic, and the summer makes you want to go outside instead of dig through CDs. :) I've also posted the full .shn copy of "Heavenly Poe" since it had one of the copies of Anything on it. so, go download, use the bandwidth I'm paying for anyways. :) Thanks to Notajunkie and ShellE productions for the two contributions. :) Be on the lookout, we may have some new stuff coming in soon as well. :) Also, thanks for posting Poe! it's great to hear from ya! Oh yeah, the textfile.. here it is: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:43:28 -0700 From: "DesertOpal" Subject: [none] Good to hear from you Poe, as always. Its a wonderful thing that you take the time out of your busy schedule to post anything to us psychos at all. Alot of famous people wouln't bother and that makes what you do all the better. This psycho is getting married in a psycho wedding! Wooooo Hooooo! Should be fun, wish me luck all. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:37:26 +0000 From: jadeshamrock@comcast.net Subject: KPR: Wedding Congrats! When is the big day? > > Good to hear from you Poe, as always. Its a wonderful thing that you take the > time out of your busy schedule to post anything to us psychos at all. Alot of > famous people wouln't bother and that makes what you do all the better. > > > This psycho is getting married in a psycho wedding! Wooooo Hooooo! Should be > fun, wish me luck all. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:43:24 -0700 From: Michele Subject: RE: HOL hex code From: JCapriotti@directs.com >I thought I was the one that did that? Maybe myself and Notajunkie both >did it at the same time? > >Oh well... regardless, we both came up with a file that sounds exactly >the same, and it looks like we both used the same process. If I remember correctly, your file turned out much better than Notajunkie's. It's on mzd.poe.st but it's down. Jarrod? I took the NPR out of the subject line because the result of that file is completely Poe related ::P - --Michele ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:13:55 -0400 From: Spud Subject: what to do we should all pick up HOL and reread it or read it, or the first time for sum of us, while listening to old poe cds on repeat, after reading it a few dozen times we'll have either become a much bigger Angry Psycho or will have a new MZD book or new Poe cd to listen to, which ever comes first ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:49:39 -0700 (PDT) From: D G Subject: Re: Petition Although I am not knowledgeable enough in this area to fully grasp all the issues of the ban/relaxing of media monopolies, it seems like the petition Poe supports (http://www.mediareform.net/petition) is a good one. In most industries, one or two giant companies tend to take over the entire industry and become so large it is impossible for any small company to compete. Look at what Blockbuster did to the video rental industry- little video stores are few and far between. If you want a cappucino, you have to go to one of the Starbucks stores on every corner. Microsoft for your operating system, Wal-Mart for everything else... (this is pretty much what Marx predicted would be the downfall of the capitalist system- huge conglomerates would dominate trade, increasing the gap between haves and have-nots and leading to a communist revolution). This phenomenon is particularly dangerous in the media industry because the media is our primary source of information about the world and about ourselves. Most people depend on television and newspapers for information about the state of the world and although most people are savy enough to understand that all media outlets have a slant, the fact that most have a DIFFERENT slant (FOX news is conservative; CNN and the NY Times are liberal, CNN is affiliated with AOL and Time Warner so it may report stories favorable to those companies, etc.), allows us to be exposed to many different points of view and think independently. If one company owned most of the newspapers, TV stations, movie companies, recording labels, etc., there would be only ONE point of view out there. The company would essentially control the way we think. Anybody who has taken sociology or psychology knows that humans are "socialized" into a culture- as children they are constantly searching the environment for cues about how to act and how to think- how to fit in. Most of these cues still come from television, an activity that dominates the lives of most children (and most parents' babysitter of choice). It can be argued whether there is a direct link between particular media programming and behavior (is "Jackass" the cause of kids trying stupid stunts that end up killing them, did Ozzy songs make kids in the 80's commit suicide, did the Doom game have a causal role in Columbine), but there is no doubt that in the aggregate media programming has an immense influence on how people are socialized- how they will think and act. That is WAY TOO MUCH POWER to entrust to the hands of one company or ten companies- that kind of power must be disbursed. Our most cherished freedom, free speech, works only because there is a "marketplace of ideas." We tolerate and protect the right of people to express hateful, evil, pernicious ideas because we are confident that in a truly free marketplace of ideas there will be enough variety of expression to counteract the racist, hateful, or just plain stupid ideas that are out there (see the 9/11 timeline thread). A media monopoly threatens the free marketplace of ideas and with it freedom of speech and thought. On a more practical level- if one company can own MTV, several record labels, and half of the radio stations in the country, imagine the suffocating effect it would have on musicians. You would pretty much ONLY be able to hear the artists the company decided you should hear. Of course that is pretty much the case now- the most popular music is not the BEST music (otherwise POE would be a helluva lot bigger than Brittany Spears), but rather the music that some company decides it will market and ram down the public's throat. They play the same crappy songs over and over and over until they convince the public they like it. The music industry reminds me of the old Brady Bunch episode where the record company made Greg Brady a music pop star, Johnny Bravo, hired screaming fans, wrote his songs for him, and marketed him to death with almost no participation on his part- he was chosen because he fit the suit (the Johnny Bravo clothes). I imagine they could have taken ANY 16 year old girl with big breasts and turned her into Brittany Spears. Meanwhile musicians who are actually TALENTED and pour their souls into creating good music struggle to find an outlet for their efforts. That situation will get even worse if the media industry turns into more of a monopoly. angry-psychos-digest wrote: Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 01:35:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Anne Danielewski Subject: Annie Danielewski "POE" I just took a few minutes to sign a petition on media reform that will be sent to Congress soon. It's vital for democracy that we have an open and fair media system. If you agree, go to www.mediareform.net/petition and add your name. It only takes a few minutes, and the petition could have a huge impact on Congress. Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:53:25 -0700 (MST) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: NPR: Good GUI for MySQL Not POE Related *** A question for the programmers / net geeks in the crowd. I am new to the world of databases and have started to run a MySQL db. Can anybody suggest a good GUI for Windoz that I can use to connect to a MySQL server and do my stuff. I like working from the command line, but typing in all of the commands is becoming time consuming and frustrating. Any help would be great. Looking for a FREE MySQL GUI... But a pay one is fine too... Thanks JK/// Jarrod ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:02:34 EDT From: Doxiegrl1@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: 9/11/01 Timeline They didn't kill mass ammounts of people, but they did Tar and Feather loyalists, burn their houses, etc; not nearly as bad as 9/11, but it still hurt people. - -Tiff In a message dated 9/8/2003 12:02:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, Irh1216NY@aol.com writes: > > Nice point on the Revolution also, but for some reason i dont think the > colonists had intentions of killing a mass ammount of innocent civilians > > Ian ------------------------------ Date: 10 Sep 2003 18:49:31 -0400 From: Ed Subject: Re: NPR: Good GUI for MySQL phpMyAdmin is killer.. it's a php gui so it requires a webserver with php support.. http://www.phpmyadmin.net/ I use it for all my databases. On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 14:53, Cyberfan Corporation wrote: > Not POE Related > > *** > > A question for the programmers / net geeks in the crowd. > > I am new to the world of databases and have started to run a MySQL > db. Can anybody suggest a good GUI for Windoz that I can use to connect > to a MySQL server and do my stuff. > > I like working from the command line, but typing in all of the commands is > becoming time consuming and frustrating. > > Any help would be great. Looking for a FREE MySQL GUI... But a pay one is > fine too... > > Thanks > > JK/// > Jarrod - -- - -Ed - -Divinity http://ed.hunsinger.org ------------------------------ Date: 10 Sep 2003 18:51:12 -0400 From: Ed Subject: RE: HOL hex code doh, the one I have has that text file from Notajunkie, so I assumed that was from him. If you've got another file and want to email it over, I'll put it up there too. :) On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 10:38, Jason Capriotti wrote: > I thought I was the one that did that? Maybe myself and Notajunkie both did it at the same time? > > Oh well... regardless, we both came up with a file that sounds exactly the same, and it looks like we both used the same process. > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: 09 Sep 2003 22:08:29 -0400 > From: Ed > Subject: Re: NPR: HOL hex code > > Notajunkie converted the hex awhile back and got a resulting .aif file. > I've pulled it off the old backups of poe.navelsex.com and made it > available (http://poe.navelsex.com) Below is the textfile explaining > it. Lisa, if you come up with something different, I'd love to get a > copy of it to put up there as well. :) > I've also posted copies of Anything (as was requested too long ago.) > Sorry about the delay. Life gets hectic, and the summer makes you want > to go outside instead of dig through CDs. :) I've also posted the full > .shn copy of "Heavenly Poe" since it had one of the copies of Anything > on it. so, go download, use the bandwidth I'm paying for anyways. :) > Thanks to Notajunkie and ShellE productions for the two contributions. > :) Be on the lookout, we may have some new stuff coming in soon as > well. :) Also, thanks for posting Poe! it's great to hear from ya! Oh > yeah, the textfile.. here it is: - -- - -Ed - -Divinity http://ed.hunsinger.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:54:06 -0400 From: "dustin fabricante" Subject: bbs ruined my day all i wanted today was to get onto the bbs and it s down i m really pissed but it might mean P+E will be making a statement in the new forum don t know it would be nice to talk(not directly witch is my only way) her hope for the best and pray the P+E comes back to us in one piece _________________________________________________________________ Compare Cable, DSL or Satellite plans: As low as $29.95. https://broadband.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:17:40 -0500 From: "Jason Capriotti" Subject: RE: HOL hex code Yeah... actually. I'm bored. Not to get all anal on this, but I came up with this: I think Notajunkie did the first attempt, but the sound quality of the file made it hard to understand. Then in the next few weeks, I made an attempt at it. I spent some time cleaning it up after doing the OCR thing (I found that sometimes D's were translated as 0's, and other such crap) and resent it to the list. I think thats why mine and the one on navelsex sound the same. They are both mine.... :) Notajunkie first pass: http://www.smoe.org/lists/angry-psychos/v05.n295 Post about my version: http://www.smoe.org/lists/angry-psychos/v05.n313 I'm not a loser, just bored. The final test to see if I am a loser, will be to try another time to see if I can get it better. But don't count on it :) - Jason > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed [mailto:edward@hunsinger.org] > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 5:51 PM > To: Jason Capriotti > Cc: angry-psychos@smoe.org > Subject: RE: HOL hex code > > doh, the one I have has that text file from Notajunkie, so I assumed > that was from him. If you've got another file and want to email it > over, I'll put it up there too. :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:47:47 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: bbs ruined my day Hello daemion_lucifer@hotmail.com, In reference to your comment: h all i wanted today was to get onto the bbs and it s h down i m really pissed but it might mean P+E will be h making a statement in the new forum don t know it h would be nice to talk(not directly witch is my only way) h her hope for the best and pray the P+E comes back to h us in one piece Perhaps, more likely it is the infamous underwear gnomes. I passed on the post from Poe to the APs and it ( along with 11 responses from other members) was deleted. I posted Poe's request to sign the petition and it was deleted and my account was deleted along with it ( but fortunately it was just my post, not the whole thread that was deleted that time. I used one of my other screen names and posted links to the 9/11 journal and the voice message from Poe made right after the event so that new ones to p-o-e might be able to see them ... it was immediately erased so I posted them again and the board was shut down and has been down ever sense. I think once the gnomes seek and destroy any remaining of my user names they should be back up again. It's all good, like Elvis Costello said: "I used to get disgusted, now I try to be amused." You are right though, and even Poe confirmed it, that things are happening! Hopefully this will not generate a big thread, it is really nothing new and not a big deal. It is kind of ironic that as Poe correctly asks our help to stop legislation that could lead to censorship her BBS has resumed censoring, but I doubt Poe even knows about it! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 20:25:42 -0500 From: JOE O NELSON Subject: Concert Agenda Hello, Having been away for some time now and trying to get through a massive amount of emails I was wondering if there is a conjure one tour going on or will there be and if there is one going on what are the tour dates. Also thanks to Anne "POE" for writing. Peace out, Joe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:41:53 -0700 From: "DesertOpal" Subject: NPR: wedding The wedding date is set for the 20th of september. I'm sooo hype! I even got the organist to play an organ version of "Fly Away" soooo cool. And under my dress I'm wearing a pair of calf high leather boots with THE star on the toe! I will be the coolest bride (with a budget) ever! lol. If I had alot more money I would deck it out even more, but alas, we work with what we have. So, thanks for the congrats, and have a lovely day! ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V8 #194 ***********************************