From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V8 #189 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Sunday, September 7 2003 Volume 08 : Number 189 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Subject: KPR: COTS single + Conjure One/Delerium concert ["melly ." ] Re: Subject: KPR: COTS single + Conjure One/Delerium concert [Mike Vaughn] RE: NPR: 9/11/01 Timeline... The most complete! ["Pierce, Marshall" ] Re: NPR: 9/11/01 Timeline... The most complete! [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR: 9/11/01 Timeline [KrodKnid@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:24:22 -0600 From: "melly ." Subject: Subject: KPR: COTS single + Conjure One/Delerium concert i'll be at the delerium show in boulder next friday... i'm glad to hear it'll be well worth it! :) - -melly http://www.project1201.com - --- Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 10:22:26 -0700 From: "Michael Allison" Subject: KPR: COTS single + Conjure One/Delerium concert Delerium, though, was awesome. I'm so glad I went to the concert. Plus, the two vocalists... they were HOT. Holy crap... anyway, they ended with Silence, which was so great... the only way it could have been better would have been if Sarah McLachlan was there... we had to leave before the encore, because we drove up from Seattle to be there. Seattle's show was 21+, and we were 19, so we had to drive 2 hours up to Canada to see it! But it was worth it. - - -Michael - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 09:57:41 -0400 From: Sharonda220@aol.com Subject: NPR: Next President I'm not sure about Bush...I know that I don't like any of his decisions regarding the environment. I'm not that up to date on what exactly has been going on but I have seen a few small articles under the war articles, like something about relaxing pollution policies for some industrial corporations, and the whole drilling in alaska thing (i think i've seen a few things on the list about it too)......I am not in favor of making the rich richer at the expense of the environment. And I want to see a strict mininum on mileage for new cars...it is just crap that we are all sitting in traffic together and some people are burning gas at 2 to 3 times the rate than other cars are. RRRR> something very near and dear to my heart since i have to sit next to these assholes almost every day. Why do you need a hummer? or a land rover? we don't live in a jungle! we don't live in the mountains! its all flat road! grrrrrrr. hope everyone is having a nice weekend otherwise. Shari ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 12:44:51 -0500 From: "Jason Capriotti" Subject: Re: NPR: 9/11/01 Timeline I just want to chime in and say that I feel it is pointless to bring up Bush's family connections to middle east oil, Nazis, or Zionist movements. What we need to look at and rekanize, is the fact that there are people out there who do not like us because of our past actions. We helped Osama bin Laden ward off the Soviet Union when they tried to occupy Afghanistan. Then we left them high and dry. We have (maybe had... not sure if we moved out yet) an airbase in Saudi Arabia in order to protect our interests (oil). Osama considers that to be a foreign occupation of his country. Right or wrong, he despises us, and attacks our interests because we are a bunch of cocks. Read a Noam Chomsky book, and then research the historical points that he doesn't explain. You will see we have a long history of taking actions that are in our interest, but not in the interest of innocent civilians caught in the crossfire. Slightly off topic, but for example: Because it was in our interest, we supported terror in Nicaragua back in the early '80s by funding groups that by our definition would be terrorist groups and mined their harbor. We also imposed economic sanctions and levied the World Bank to drop their support programs in Nicaragua, thereby causing the starvation of thousands of civilians. So what happened? Nicaragua couldn't fight back with smart bombs (like we do), so they went to the U.N. for help. The World Court found our actions in violation of "international terrorism" and declared us in violation of International Law. We were then ordered to pay reparations to Nicaragua. The U.S. dismissed everything the U.N. said. Nicaragua then brought a sanction before the U.N. Security Council, ordering us to obey International Law (basically, "stop hurting Nicaragua"). It was vetoed by a permanant member of the U.N. Security Council. That member was the United States. Now, tell me why people don't have a right to be mad at the U.S.? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 12:10:30 -0700 From: Mike Vaughn Subject: Re: Subject: KPR: COTS single + Conjure One/Delerium concert Just caught the Portland show. ...hot damn. Best show I've caught since 2001. I completely agree with Michael's review...except that the bass player was WAY hotter than the two singers. ;-) > > i'll be at the delerium show in boulder next friday... i'm glad to hear > it'll be well worth it! :) > > -melly > http://www.project1201.com > > --- > > Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 10:22:26 -0700 > From: "Michael Allison" > Subject: KPR: COTS single + Conjure One/Delerium concert > > Delerium, though, was awesome. I'm so glad I went to the concert. Plus, > the two vocalists... they were HOT. Holy crap... anyway, they ended with > Silence, which was so great... the only way it could have been better > would > have been if Sarah McLachlan was there... we had to leave before the > encore, because we drove up from Seattle to be there. Seattle's show was > 21+, and we were 19, so we had to drive 2 hours up to Canada to see it! > But > it was worth it. > > - -Michael > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 15:20:47 -0400 From: "Pierce, Marshall" Subject: RE: NPR: 9/11/01 Timeline... The most complete! All, right...More important it Mulder, Molder...=) - -----Original Message----- From: D G [mailto:triggerhappyjack74@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 5:21 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: NPR: 9/11/01 Timeline... The most complete! This page is NOT "historical." It takes snippets of stories (some from reputable sources, some from unnamed sources, and some from disreputable sources) and spins them together to lend support to absurd conjectures and conspiracy theories. The AGENDA of this page is not to provide a historical account but rather to somehow legitimize the distorted belief that 9/11 was an American or Jewish conspiracy. Maybe Elvis, following a plot devised by Hitler's nefarious, preserved brain, and enlisting the help of the same aliens that abducted Moulder's sister, hijacked the planes and crashed them into the WTC. The sort of misinformation on pages like this, especially when unsuspecting readers are fooled into thinking it is "historical," is dangerous because it helps fuel the twisted, hateful mindset of terrorists and lends a spurious air of credibility to their antisemitism and anti-Americanism. Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 07:40:45 -0700 (MST) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: NPR: 9/11/01 Timeline... The most complete! Greetings, Coming up on two years since the attack on the WTC in New York and if we don't talk about history, we are doomed to repeat. http://www.09-11-01.us This is the most comprehensive account of September 11, 2001 (and beyond) I have ever seen. If you are interested in a good HISTORICAL peace. Read On. *** Peace to all of the lost souls of 09-11-01. Jarrod Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 13:07:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lok Tina Subject: Re: Subject: KPR: COTS single + Conjure One/Delerium concert who are the vocalists w/ delerium? I know Kirsty THirsk is one. Then the one for c1 is Chemda. Tina L. - --- Mike Vaughn wrote: > > Just caught the Portland show. > ...hot damn. Best show I've caught since 2001. > I completely agree with Michael's review...except > that the bass player was > WAY hotter than the two singers. ;-) > > > > > i'll be at the delerium show in boulder next > friday... i'm glad to hear > > it'll be well worth it! :) > > > > -melly > > http://www.project1201.com > > > > --- > > > > Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 10:22:26 -0700 > > From: "Michael Allison" > > Subject: KPR: COTS single + Conjure One/Delerium > concert > > > > Delerium, though, was awesome. I'm so glad I went > to the concert. Plus, > > the two vocalists... they were HOT. Holy crap... > anyway, they ended with > > Silence, which was so great... the only way it > could have been better > > would > > have been if Sarah McLachlan was there... we had > to leave before the > > encore, because we drove up from Seattle to be > there. Seattle's show was > > 21+, and we were 19, so we had to drive 2 hours up > to Canada to see it! > > But > > it was worth it. > > > > - -Michael > > > > > > > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail > Extra Storage. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 17:54:39 -0500 From: "Nisa Wells" Subject: Re: NPR: 9/11/01 Timeline >From: "Jason Capriotti" >To: >Subject: Re: NPR: 9/11/01 Timeline >Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 12:44:51 -0500 > > >I just want to chime in and say that I feel it is pointless to bring up Bush's family connections to middle east oil, Nazis, or Zionist movements. > >What we need to look at and rekanize, is the fact that there are people out there who do not like us because of our past actions. We helped Osama bin Laden ward off the Soviet Union when they tried to occupy Afghanistan. Then we left them high and dry. We have (maybe had... not sure if we moved out yet) an airbase in Saudi Arabia in order to protect our interests (oil). Osama considers that to be a foreign occupation of his country. Right or wrong, he despises us, and attacks our interests because we are a bunch of cocks. > >Read a Noam Chomsky book, and then research the historical points that he doesn't explain. You will see we have a long history of taking actions that are in our interest, but not in the interest of innocent civilians caught in the crossfire. > >Slightly off topic, but for example: > >Because it was in our interest, we supported terror in Nicaragua back in the early '80s by funding groups that by our definition would be terrorist groups and mined their harbor. We also imposed economic sanctions and levied the World Bank to drop their support programs in Nicaragua, thereby causing the starvation of thousands of civilians. So what happened? Nicaragua couldn't fight back with smart bombs (like we do), so they went to the U.N. for help. The World Court found our actions in violation of "international terrorism" and declared us in violation of International Law. We were then ordered to pay reparations to Nicaragua. The U.S. dismissed everything the U.N. said. > >Nicaragua then brought a sanction before the U.N. Security Council, ordering us to obey International Law (basically, "stop hurting Nicaragua"). It was vetoed by a permanent member of the U.N. Security Council. That member was the United States. > >Now, tell me why people don't have a right to be mad at the U.S.? >>>right on dude. I am one of those nicaraguans that are angry at america. I was just a kid but i remember having nothing to eat but boiled beans and waiting in line with my mom for hours to get some milk and ration cards. I am angry at america but not angry enough to hurt people for it. I believe america as a nation to be very cocky and self centered but no one deserves to get hurt. I think world peace and democracy is an illusion but i wont stop fighting for it . im stubborn like that - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 20:27:41 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: 9/11/01 Timeline... The most complete! In a message dated 9/6/2003 3:24:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MRPierce@mail.ifas.ufl.edu writes: All, right...More important it's Mulder, not Molder...=) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulley Skulld'er ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 20:57:35 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: 9/11/01 Timeline In a message dated 9/6/2003 1:46:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JCapriotti@directs.com writes: Now, tell me why people don't have a right to be mad at the U.S.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might add to this that Sadaam was sucker punched by "Poppy" Bush when he was pres. Bush Sr. told Sadaam Who'sInsane that he wouldn't attack him if he invaded Kuwait. Sadaam bought it and invaded, then Poppy used it as an excuse to kick his ass. And why were we in Kuwait...why did Sadaam invade? Well, Dubya Bush, the current pres, was, at that time, losing his ass (as well as the buttcheeks of a lot of influential investors and family friends) in Kuwaiti oil investments. It seems their oil wells ran a little dry. So they were right across the border from Iraq and started slant drilling into Iraqui oil deposits, which pissed off Sadaam big time. Operation Desert Storm may have been slightly justified, but it also happened to conveniently save Dubya's sphincter from financial ruin. BTW, those WMDs that Iraq supposedly had...well he got them from the USA when we helped him with his war against Iran. And why do we hate Iran? Because Ayatollah Komaniac kicked out the Shah (our bosom oil buddy) when he came to power...then kicked out the US oil companies too. Did you know Kuwait was at one time in the not too distant past just another part of Iraq? We created Kuwait and sort of grabbed up the richest oil deposits in Iraq by doing so...so Iraqui resentment goes a lot farther back than Sadaam and the boys. And get this; Iran and Iraq used to also be the same country. Iraq was created by the British because they convinced everyone that it was a good idea to divide up Persia (this during the British occupation of most of the Middle East). It was also the British who the Jews drove out of Palestine when they reformed Israel after hundreds of years in 1948...and it was also at this time that the Israelis invented what we now know as "terrorism"...that's what they used on the Brits to get them to leave. The Palestinians picked it up from the Jews in the first place. The Middle East is a can of worms without end, going back thousands of years. ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V8 #189 ***********************************