From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V8 #153 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Sunday, July 13 2003 Volume 08 : Number 153 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Poe auctions [StphLadd@aol.com] Re: Poe auctions [Cyberfan Corporation ] Re: Poe auctions [KoiJamas@aol.com] Re: Poe auctions [Miki Proud ] Re: Poe auctions [Miki Proud ] Re: Poe auctions [StphLadd@aol.com] Re: Poe auctions [Miki Proud ] NPR:Re: Prostitution et al [jadeshamrock@comcast.net] Re: Poe auctions [StphLadd@aol.com] Re: Poe auctions [jadeshamrock@comcast.net] I'm a Poe Ho ["Shoe Vixen" ] Re: The prostitution debate ["Anthony J Hoffmann" ] RE: [Grant LCpl Keith E ] Re: NPR:Re: Prostitution et al [Brendles ] Re: RE: ["DesertOpal" ] [none] ["DesertOpal" ] List-related but NPR: Digest? ["Colin" ] Re: NPR Prostitution [Spidersrcute2@aol.com] Re: NPR: This is not POE related... ALCOHOL [LuvMeCrtny@aol.com] Re: NPR: This is not POE related... ALCOHOL ["Major Boothroyd" ] Hello fellow psychos! [angry_psycho@msn.com] Re: NPR:Re: Prostitution et al [LolipopFailure@aol.com] Re: [Mike Vaughn ] Re: [Cyberfan Corporation ] Re: NPR:Re: Prostitution et al [Brendles ] npr prostitutes continued [LolipopFailure@aol.com] Re: Poe auctions [Lok Tina ] Re: Poe auctions - ani difranco [LolipopFailure@aol.com] Re: prostitution [tearinhand ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 01:54:01 EDT From: StphLadd@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe auctions No, I won't stop talking, or as some of you say, bitching about this auction. If you don't like it and want me to stop BAN ME FROM THIS LIST!!!!! Stephanie "Nothing in a lifetime is so real." iris~Twilight ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:04:21 -0700 (MST) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: Re: Poe auctions On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 StphLadd@aol.com wrote: > > No, I won't stop talking, or as some of you say, bitching about this auction. > If you don't like it and want me to stop BAN ME FROM THIS LIST!!!!! CLARIFY ! ! ! ******************************************************************* JK/// - Jarrod Kniff ******************************************************************* Patience and persistence brings its own rewards. - You may be reaping the fruits of your labour. - unknown ******************************************************************* http://www.poe.org - the singer http://www.spamaholic.com - just an idea ******************************************************************* On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 StphLadd@aol.com wrote: > > No, I won't stop talking, or as some of you say, bitching about this auction. > If you don't like it and want me to stop BAN ME FROM THIS LIST!!!!! > > Stephanie > "Nothing in a lifetime is so real." > iris~Twilight ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:08:47 EDT From: KoiJamas@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe auctions In a message dated 7/12/2003 2:05:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cyberfan@indigi.net writes: > > > CLARIFY ! ! ! > Put simply: All we need is love. Doo doo doo... - -Bridget ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:43:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Miki Proud Subject: Re: Poe auctions Lol! Yeah, cause we know that whenever people disagree with us they get 'banned from the list.' Just ask Dan and Spook about how ban crazy everyone goes when there's fighting on here. I mean,really, speak your mind all you want. Just don't be surprised if other people do the same. - --- StphLadd@aol.com wrote: > > No, I won't stop talking, or as some of you say, > bitching about this auction. > If you don't like it and want me to stop BAN ME FROM > THIS LIST!!!!! > > Stephanie > "Nothing in a lifetime is so real." > iris~Twilight ===== "Be who you are and say what you feel. Because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." - --Dr. Suess __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:47:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Miki Proud Subject: Re: Poe auctions Beh, *shrugs* at least there's Poe related email in my inbox again. I think everyone's blowing this way out of proportion, and in some cases bitching for the sheer sake of bitching, but it's giving me something to read, and at least it's about Poe. Anyone on here remember the 300 email Harry Potter flame war? Miki - --- ZXINWS@aol.com wrote: > > Geez > > She probably wasnt even auctioning it herself. I > mean dont you think she has > something better to do than sell a tix for 2000. If > she was a money grubbing > whore...she could just go on tour or make an albumn. > > Can we drop this Poe auction things yet? > > Patrick ===== "Be who you are and say what you feel. Because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." - --Dr. Suess __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:49:07 EDT From: StphLadd@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe auctions Lol! Yeah, cause we know that whenever people disagree with us they get 'banned from the list.' Just ask Dan and Spook about how ban crazy everyone goes when there's fighting on here. I mean,really, speak your mind all you want. Just don't be surprised if other people do the same. I am not afraid of what may come. I rarely speak up for things and this time, I just cannot be silent. If people are threatened by what I say then ban me. I really don't care any more. This list has been sooooooooooooooooooooo freaking NON Poe related for sooo long. If I go, then oh well. Stephanie "Nothing in a lifetime is so real." iris~Twilight ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:50:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Miki Proud Subject: Re: Poe auctions psssst....that was sarcasm. Does anyone on this list even have the power to ban anyone else? If they do it's never been used. - --- StphLadd@aol.com wrote: > Lol! Yeah, cause we know that whenever people > disagree with us they get 'banned from the list.' > Just ask Dan and Spook about how ban crazy everyone > goes when there's fighting on here. I mean,really, > speak your mind all you want. Just don't be > surprised > if other people do the same. > > I am not afraid of what may come. I rarely speak up > for things and this time, > I just cannot be silent. If people are threatened by > what I say then ban me. > I really don't care any more. This list has been > sooooooooooooooooooooo > freaking NON Poe related for sooo long. If I go, > then oh well. > > > > Stephanie > "Nothing in a lifetime is so real." > iris~Twilight > ===== "Be who you are and say what you feel. Because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." - --Dr. Suess __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:52:51 +0000 From: jadeshamrock@comcast.net Subject: NPR:Re: Prostitution et al Legalize prositution? Sure, why not? I mean, it's not like that wouldn't undermine steps forward to undo the objectification of women or anything, would it? Oh sure...they *choose* to do it...sort of like a man facing death would choose indenture rather than the noose. Please, what choice is that, really? I don't think that morals or religion really have that much to do with it, atleast not if you look at it from the perspective of the implications of legalizing prostitution. What kind of message is that sending, exactly? And what damage does that do to somebody's sense of self-worth? It's not really a choice, it's more of a ruse if you ask me. Look at it like this: many times when it is said that a woman is *valued* what is she really being valued for? Her ability to sexually please men? The ability to bear children, be a "good" housekeeper etc, etc? So if a woman chooses not to these things, no matter what success she may find elsewhere in life, she is valued less? That's really sexist and hardly constitutes something to be proud of because it's valuing women for the wrong reasons. I'm not saying that a woman should be chaste and not have sex before marriage, and so on, what a woman does with her own sexuality and who she gives herself to is her own business. If that choice is made completely freely and by none other for herself, and it is an informed choice, than more power to her. However, when a price tag is attached to that which is deeply personal and intimate it perverts and twists it into something demeaning and wretched, moreso when the choice is made out of perceived helplessness at one's situation and worth in life. Certain things should never be sold. The price that dignity fetches will never replace the emptiness left once it is sold. Yet, the same thing occurs when a woman gives herself away all too freely to anybody and everybody. Honestly, I'm not sure which is more despicable. The whole Madonna/Whore attitude towards women (prompted and perpetuated by both sexes) sickens me. Some say that being a prostitute is about "freedom" and being able to "choose". I think that the choice is already made for women who find themselves sinking to such desperate and demeaning measures, especially when they feel it is the only real worth they have. And the choice wasn't completely made by them. Think on that. My .02 ~D > > Actually it's a great question. > > First let's define prostitution, so we're all on the same page: > > pros7ti7tu7tion [Audio pronunciation of prostitution] ( P > ) Pronunciation Key (prst-tshn, -ty-) > n. > > 1. The act or practice of engaging in sex acts for hire. > 2. The act or an instance of offering or devoting one's talent to an > unworthy use or cause. > > [the above from dictionary.com] > > The first definition is the one most commonly used in todays society. > Though the second one is probably the more accurate and correct definition. > The first can still be defined by the second by defining sexual talent as > unworthy. > > Should a person be allowed to sell themselves as a sexual service? I would > have to say yes. People sell themselves on their various talents every day > to earn a living. (Musicians, artists, engineers, actors, doctors, etc) Why > should people with a talent for sex be any different? It really shouldn't. > The act is harmless to others, and if both parties are willing, it is > harmless to the participants as well. It's about the freedom to choose. If > someone decides to follow this path, even though I would not choose to do > so, I do not have the right to tell them that they can't because it has no > possible way of affecting me directly or indirectly. Some might claim that > prostitution demoralizes women, but that is only because today we consider > that behavior socially unacceptable, had we been more accepting, I doubt > anyone would make the same claims. Just because I disagree with someones > career choice, or I wouldn't use their services, doesn't make it an > unworthy venture. > > Why is selling sex unacceptable, while selling a massage is? Both derive > pleasure for the recipient in different ways. Neither harm anyone else and > neither have tangible results. So why is one legal while the other not? > it's a hard question to answer when we are trying ever so hard to separate > church from state. Yet morals are largely based on religion, and the law > that declares the sale of sex illegal, is definitely a law of morality. We > are slowly evolving to accept more and more things that do not harm others > as still being acceptable, and no longer immoral, perhaps someday > prostitution will fall into this same category. Today, we would certainly > consider the sale of sex as immoral, but yet we tend not to consider > premarital sex as immoral anymore. Social morals have evolved over time to > become more open and free, should we not consider sex for money on the same > terms as premarital sex? > > In a world that tries to promote freedom of the individual should one not > be able to chose their own career, provided that it does not harm or > otherwise interfere in someone elses life? Just because it's not a life we > would choose for ourselves should not deem a profession either immoral or > illegal or otherwise unworthy. > > Just my 2 cents worth > > Mark > [The Canadian Avenger] > > > At 04:42 PM 7/11/03, Realpoe@aol.com wrote: > > >Question: Do you think that prostitution should be legalized in this country? > > > >xoxo Poe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:54:13 EDT From: StphLadd@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe auctions Well, to be really honest, even if I could be banned, it wouldn't bother me. I am sick to death of how things are. Yeah, I shook things up. I surprised the HELL out of myself. Poe has replied to the list and people are discussing her rather than the usual inane NPR things. Stephanie "Nothing in a lifetime is so real." iris~Twilight ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:59:36 +0000 From: jadeshamrock@comcast.net Subject: Re: Poe auctions Ummm, we can't ban you (if we wanted to, hypothetically), there really aren't any moderators last I checked... So speak on, others will do the same... ~D > > No, I won't stop talking, or as some of you say, bitching about this auction. > If you don't like it and want me to stop BAN ME FROM THIS LIST!!!!! > > Stephanie > "Nothing in a lifetime is so real." > iris~Twilight ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:40:04 -0700 From: "Shoe Vixen" Subject: I'm a Poe Ho Prostitution legal? I wish to gawdess it was. Perhaps I could've gotten paid for all the bad lays and annoying idiots I've had to put with over the years! "Is it possible I'm not as hot as I think I am?"-Elaine Benis; Seinfeld > > Question: Do you think that prostitution should be legalized in this >country? > > > > xoxo Poe > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:49:58 +0000 From: "Anthony J Hoffmann" Subject: Re: The prostitution debate I just took a trip to Hungary this past week, and the "working" girls there looked like they were having lots of fun. It seems they just treat it as another profession, a normal way of life. Nobody says anything about it, at least not our liasions or the other people we talked to over there. If there's people that want to do it, or think they have to to get ahead, then they should be able to. Like they've said before.... it's all a choice. Then again, here in Bosnia, it's looked down upon. I guess it depends on your upbringing as well. Religion is a big factor here, so that's another one. You could "why" this thing to death. I can't wait to get back to the states ;) "si pacem vis habere para bellum" - Constantine "If You Want Peace, Be Ready For War" _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 07:56:51 -0400 From: Grant LCpl Keith E Subject: RE: I've been to a few countries where prostitution is legal, or at least isn't prosecuted as fiercely as in most of America, and I've noticed that if things are handled properly, it isn't as much of a problem as some would think. Administrative control, such as registration or licensing of prostitutes, as well as regular blood tests to check for sexually transmitted diseases and other illnesses make it no more dangerous than donating blood to the Red Cross or something. I personally don't believe in prostitution, but I do believe in a person's right to choose what they decide to do with their body. If a woman (or man, for that matter) wishes to engage in that sort of activity for pay, then that should be their choice, so long as they make sure they're not putting anyone at risk by doing so. I also feel, however, that America is one of the most conservative countries on the planet, especially those that decide to make politics their profession, so I don't forsee any legalization, more on moral grounds than medical. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 05:44:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Brendles Subject: Re: NPR:Re: Prostitution et al Who ever said it was only women who were prostitutes? Check out Santa Monica Blvd. sometime... Bren jadeshamrock@comcast.net wrote: Legalize prositution? Sure, why not? I mean, it's not like that wouldn't undermine steps forward to undo the objectification of women or anything, would it? Oh sure...they *choose* to do it...sort of like a man facing death would choose indenture rather than the noose. Please, what choice is that, really? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 10:44:52 -0700 From: "DesertOpal" Subject: Re: RE: so long as they make sure they're not putting anyone at risk by > doing so. What about putting yourself at risk? Hell they force you to wear seat belts in this country. They force you to protect your own life in that way. So why not force you to protect your own self worth also? You own sense of well being will be protected. lol. Just thought that was cute of me. lmao. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 10:52:20 -0700 From: "DesertOpal" Subject: [none] Its amazing to me how many people just shrug their shoulders, and say "yeah sure legalize it, it works here, or its not as bad as you would think it might be." without stopping to consider the ramifications. prostitution is not a bout choice. its about a lack of choice. for the males, the females, the children 10-12 yrs old. Well I suppose we all see things different ways, but I cant see this particular career as anything but demeaning degrading and demoralizing to anyone who partakes of it, on either the giving or recieving end. My 10cents. lol ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:24:36 -0400 From: "Colin" Subject: List-related but NPR: Digest? Hey, I don't think I've ever really posted on here before so I'll introduce myself a bit first. My name's Colin, I'm fifteen, and I've been obsessed with Poe's music for over a year. Aside from her I like a lot of older stuff (60s, 70s, and whatnot), and a bit of newer stuff (Radiohead, the Strokes, the Hives, the Beta Band [though I'm not sure how new they are]), and it makes me wince when people compare Poe to Avril or Evanescence because she's so far superior. Anyway, I'm sure no one read that, but the real point of my post is to ask how to put the list on digest. I've looked all over all the sites I could find, but the navigation on http://www.angry-psychos.com doesn't work for me at ALL, and there might be something there about it. I like this list, but I've been getting 50+ emails a day lately and it's a hassle to go through them all and I often get them mixed up with the constant spam flooding my inbox. Anyway, I hope someone knows. See you later. - --Colin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:50:53 EDT From: Spidersrcute2@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Prostitution Prostitution should be considered a legitimate job. Some people are good at selling clothes, others music, others their bodies. The reason I think it should be legal is so that they can form a union and receive medical benefits like every other hard working american. I know if I was out selling my body I'd want to have my livelihood insured. Tracie P.S anyone in No. California, watch out. I think the flu bug is going around. I caught it, and ended up coming home from work yesterday with a fever of 102+. NOT FUN. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 13:41:22 EDT From: LuvMeCrtny@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: This is not POE related... ALCOHOL Howdy! I'm usually a lurker, but I was wondering something about alcohol. Why is it that we are old enough at 16 to drive behind 2-3 tons worth of machinery on the street with other people? 18 seems to be the age when we (males, that is) have to register to for our country in case of a war, and we are able to be considered adults to go see "R" or "XXX" films ---- hell even strip clubs are okay. But why must we wait those 3 years to LEGALLY drink? Do Congress/government, etc think that at 21 we are more mature? I am not bitching, but I am wondering about that. I would like to think of myself as a social drinker, not a lush. It seems why can't we do anything to our own bodies when we want? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:33:53 -0400 From: "Major Boothroyd" Subject: Re: NPR: This is not POE related... ALCOHOL I, like many, I'm sure have to full-heartedly agree with you....IMO the illicitness of drinking leads more young people to do it...tho I have to say that I do feel "more mature" now (at 21) than at 18, in regards to these matters, but I don't believe that I wouldn't have been able to handle the right to drink at an earlier age. the people I went to high school with (myself included) drank because it was new, because it was a sort of rebellion, however little it may have actually been. I draw a comparison to France, where I spent the last year. It was very rare for me to hang out with or see a young Frenchie drunk, perhaps because they are introduced to alcohol earlier and regard it as a social thing more than anything else, something to go with dinners (and lunches!)...exactly because it isn't illegal, it seems to me that they learn early that alcohol isn't necessary to have a good time....a few weeks before I left, one of my French friends had a birthday party with open bar, and it was generally the few americans there who drank while most of the french didn't, everybody a similar age (18-23)...so while I can't say that it would be exactly the same here, I feel that it would be very similar were the government to enact a return to 18+ drinking laws. kung-gene "Leon, what exactly do you do?" "Cleaner." "You mean you're a hitman?" "Yeah." "Cool." - ----Original Message Follows---- From: LuvMeCrtny@aol.com To: Angry-Psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: NPR: This is not POE related... ALCOHOL Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 13:41:22 EDT Howdy! I'm usually a lurker, but I was wondering something about alcohol. Why is it that we are old enough at 16 to drive behind 2-3 tons worth of machinery on the street with other people? 18 seems to be the age when we (males, that is) have to register to for our country in case of a war, and we are able to be considered adults to go see "R" or "XXX" films ---- hell even strip clubs are okay. But why must we wait those 3 years to LEGALLY drink? Do Congress/government, etc think that at 21 we are more mature? I am not bitching, but I am wondering about that. I would like to think of myself as a social drinker, not a lush. It seems why can't we do anything to our own bodies when we want? _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:40:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Cobb Subject: Re: The Lady's question He, he, nice come back, Poe! But, honestly, no, not nationwide, maybe around major cities, or government regulated brothels. ===== Adahlfin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:34:13 -0700 From: angry_psycho@msn.com Subject: Hello fellow psychos! (1) Who you are? I'm Kristin! (2) Where you're from? I reside in Portland, Oregon (3) How old you are? I'm 29 (4) Where you first heard Poe? It was July 27th, 2001, and I was at the Depeche Mode Concert. I had heard Poe before, but never really made the connection. She was opening for Depeche Mode, and after the first couple of songs, I was hooked! I went out the next day and bought Hello and Haunted - Even my 6 year old daughter loves Poe... even IF she thinks the song goes "I'm not allergic anymore... just thought you should know.." I saw her again during the Pantene Pro Voice tour in December of 2001 - she played at a small venue called the Alladin. It was amazing. (5) What other musicians do you listen to? Alanis, Liz Phair, Tori Amos, Lords of Acid, Portishead, The Cure, Fiona Apple and Garbage just to name a few... (6) Any other interesting information you wish to share. I really had no idea that there was a email list for the fans of Poe... I would have subscribed long ago if I had known. Looking forward to getting to know everyone here.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:14:18 EDT From: LolipopFailure@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR:Re: Prostitution et al i dont' know how i feel about the legalization of prostitution really. i'm kinda with desertopal. my thing is you can test negitive for hiv for up to a year now, right? what if i'm a prostitute, and i slept with someone (customer or non) last week and contracted hiv, and my regular screening doesn't pick it up for even 6 months? how many people can i infect in that time....and how many people will those people infect, and so on. There have been isolated reports of >HIV transmission where the test did not turn positive until a year after the exposure. The vast, vast majority of antibody results are positive within three months of inoculation. For our discordant couples, we recommend testing every six months to avoid false-negatives that can occur during the "window period" (the time between infection and the ability of the test to detect infection. One can transmit virus during this window period). The three to six month window that is commonly cited as the time to seroconversion is to accommodate the fact that some of the tests vary in what antibody they will find (IgM and/or IgG). Fortunately, the one year seroconversion is a real oddity because the public health implications would be otherwise very great. Good question. - source: http://www.gayhealth.com ...and the way the rain comes down hard...that's how i feel inside.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:24:55 -0700 From: Mike Vaughn Subject: Re: Ask me when I get out of advertising. - -MikeV > > Question: Do you think that prostitution should be legalized in this country? > > xoxo Poe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:08:12 -0700 (MST) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: Re: hahahah nice... *** Mike Vaughn you say??? I didn't know you were an angry psycho... =o) ******************************************************************* JK/// - Jarrod Kniff ******************************************************************* Patience and persistence brings its own rewards. - You may be reaping the fruits of your labour. - unknown ******************************************************************* http://www.poe.org - the singer http://www.spamaholic.com - just an idea ******************************************************************* On Sat, 12 Jul 2003, Mike Vaughn wrote: > > Ask me when I get out of advertising. > -MikeV > > > > > Question: Do you think that prostitution should be legalized in this country? > > > > xoxo Poe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:08:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Brendles Subject: Re: NPR:Re: Prostitution et al I understand your view, but this applies to anyone who's sexually active, whether prostitute or not. Gotta wear the glove, baby... LolipopFailure@aol.com wrote: my thing is you can test negitive for hiv for up to a year now, right? what if i'm a prostitute, and i slept with someone (customer or non) last week and contracted hiv, and my regular screening doesn't pick it up for even 6 months? how many people can i infect in that time....and how many people will those people infect, and so on. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 22:11:09 EDT From: LolipopFailure@aol.com Subject: npr prostitutes continued "I understand your view, but this applies to anyone who's sexually active, whether prostitute or not. Gotta wear the glove, baby..." yeah, but legalizing it and and giving testings gives a false sense of safty...... ...and the way the rain comes down hard...that's how i feel inside.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:18:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lok Tina Subject: Re: Poe auctions i don't condone censorship- you voiced an opinion and i commend you for sticking to it. Its been ahwhile since this list has been so busy. :) nice to see everyone is still around. as for prostitution- artists continually have to prostitue themselves for art. Its like the music industry is the pimp- who ends up with all the money? everyone but the artist. Tina L. - --- StphLadd@aol.com wrote: > > Well, to be really honest, even if I could be > banned, it wouldn't bother me. > I am sick to death of how things are. Yeah, I shook > things up. I surprised the > HELL out of myself. Poe has replied to the list and > people are discussing > her rather than the usual inane NPR things. > > > > Stephanie > "Nothing in a lifetime is so real." > iris~Twilight __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 23:22:55 EDT From: LolipopFailure@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe auctions - ani difranco > >> as for prostitution- artists continually have to >> prostitue themselves for art. Its like the music >> industry is the pimp- who ends up with all the money? >> everyone but the artist. >> > "...and the music industry mafia is pimping girl power - sniping off sharp > shooter singles from their styrophome towers....and hip hop is tied up in the > back room with a logo stuffed in its mouth, cause the masters tools will > never dismantle the masters house..." -ani d. > > sorry, that comment just reminded me of that song > ...and the way the rain comes down hard...that's how i feel inside.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:34:00 -0700 (PDT) From: tearinhand Subject: Re: prostitution but if it was legalized it wouldnt be as much fun. well lets see, on a serious note, isn't working in the porn industry prostitution and since thats obviously avaliable to anyone over 18 doesn that mean that some form of prostitution is legal? On another note, anytime anyone ever says anything about someone selling out I think of Tool's Hooker with a Penis. Sara - --- angry-psychos-digest wrote: > > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:42:23 -0400 >From: Realpoe@aol.com >Subject: [none] > >Question: Do you think that prostitution should >be legalized in this >country? > >xoxo Poe > ===== "the sweetest cherry in an apple pie" ~Tori Amos "Wait, I thought I had this down I built all my cages and my hide out I covered all my bases but you you creep in like a whisper I try not to listen but I hear you I don't know just what it is you do but do it again" ~Poe, Amazed http://escape.to/yourescape ~A Girl and Her Piano~ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V8 #153 ***********************************