From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V8 #60 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Thursday, March 20 2003 Volume 08 : Number 060 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: angry-psychos-digest V8 #59 [Michaela Drapes ] NPR - WAR ["Anthony J Hoffmann" ] NPR: Letter to Bush from Michael Moore ["Carolyn K" ] NPR And PR :) [KoiJamas@aol.com] music~ Evanescence ["Carolyn K" ] Re: Michael Moore's letter and what not... [BldRnr3@aol.com] Re: Michael Moore's letter and what not... [NoisyPollution@aol.com] Re: NPR - WAR [KrodKnid@aol.com] NPR NPR NPR NPR I don't give a fuck!!!!! [Wes Overall ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 17:23:54 -0600 From: Michaela Drapes Subject: RE: angry-psychos-digest V8 #59 mike wrote: > #2. I'd like to propose this become a Poe/Music-only list. > You wanna talk > war? Go join a different group. I've noticed that each Angry Psycho is > dramatically and dynamically different from another. I'm talking age, > backgrounds, experiences, etc. Personally, I don't mind reading other people's thoughts on current NPR topics. However, it would be really nice if people would clean up posts they're responding to (so a reader can tell the original text from the reply -- I'm on the digest, and sometimes it's hard to tell). I'm assuming here that most people have a spell checker at their disposal. For crying out loud, PLEASE USE IT. If I see IRAQ or DEMOCRACY or CONSTITUTION misspelled one more time, I'll get very angry and psychotic. - -michaela author of the mailing list etiquette section of the AP welcome letter. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 00:29:12 +0000 From: "Anthony J Hoffmann" Subject: NPR - WAR This is just great, Most of the responses I've gotten just prove that most of the people that live in this country, think they're "too good" to payback the nation. Yet the military still defends your sorry ass, and will continue to do so, as we have for generations. Actually do something to put forth change, go into politics, or the armed forces, SOMETHING, instead of bitching day and day, with no change that comes of it. Write your congressman, if you even know his name, and let him know that you think this war is for nothing. I would like to see the people responsible for the war crimes in Kuwait to be brought to justice, but I guess everyone has forgotten all about that. I might die over here, but at least my life will go twords something usefull, like defending the people and freedoms of our nation. I trust the president, whatever he decides, we follow. That's the way it's set up, we chose him to make our decisions for us. If you didn't vote for him he's your president still the same. Again, if you don't like it GET OUT. Let the rest of us enjoy the nation we love. I'm sure I'll get many more e-mails proving still yet that this country is full of P.O.S. "si pacem vis habere para bellum" - Constantine "If You Want Peace, Be Ready For War" _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:39:14 -0500 From: "Carolyn K" Subject: NPR: Letter to Bush from Michael Moore Subject: Letter to Bush from Michael Moore Date: 18 Mar 2003 13:05:52 -0500 Monday, March 17, 2003 A Letter from Michael Moore to George W. Bush on the Eve of War George W. Bush 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington, DC Dear Governor Bush: So today is what you call "the moment of truth," the day that "France and the rest of world have to show their cards on the table." I'm glad to hear that this day has finally arrived. Because, I gotta tell ya, having survived 440 days of your lying and conniving, I wasn't sure if I could take much more. So I'm glad to hear that today is Truth Day, 'cause I got a few truths would like to share with you: 1. There is virtually NO ONE in America (talk radio nutters and Fox News aside) who is gung-ho to go to war. Trust me on this one. Walk out of the White House and on to any street in America and try to find five people who are PASSIONATE about wanting to kill Iraqis. YOU WON'T FIND THEM! Why? 'Cause NO Iraqis have ever come here and killed any of us! No Iraqi has even threatened to do that. You see, this is how we average Americans think: If a certain so-and-so is not perceived as a threat to our lives, then, believe it or not, we don't want to kill him! Funny how that works! 2. The majority of Americans -- the ones who never elected you -- are not fooled by your weapons of mass distraction. We know what the real issues are that affect our daily lives -- and none of them begin with I or end in Q. Here's what threatens us: two and a half million jobs lost since you took office, the stock market having become a cruel joke, no one knowing if their retirement funds are going to be there, gas now costs almost two dollars -- the list goes on and on. Bombing Iraq will not make any of this go away. Only you need to go away for things to improve. 3. As Bill Maher said last week, how bad do you have to suck to lose a popularity contest with Saddam Hussein? The whole world is against you, Mr. Bush. Count your fellow Americans among them. 4. The Pope has said this war is wrong, that it is a SIN. The Pope! But even worse, the Dixie Chicks have now come out against you! How bad does it have to get before you realize that you are an army of one on this war? Of course, this is a war you personally won't have to fight. Just like when you went AWOL while the poor were shipped to Vietnam in your place. 5. Of the 535 members of Congress, only ONE (Sen. Johnson of South Dakota) has an enlisted son or daughter in the armed forces! If you really want to stand up for America, please send your twin daughters over to Kuwait right now and let them don their chemical warfare suits. And let's see every member of Congress with a child of military age also sacrifice their kids for this war effort. What's that you say? You don't THINK so? Well, hey, guess what -- we don't think so either! 6. Finally, we love France. Yes, they have pulled some royal screw-ups. Yes, some of them can be pretty damn annoying. But have you forgotten we wouldn't even have this country known as America if it weren't for the French? That it was their help in the Revolutionary War that won it for us? That our greatest thinkers and founding fathers -- Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, etc. -- spent many years in Paris where they refined the concepts that lead to our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution? That it was France who gave us our Statue of Liberty, a Frenchman who built the Chevrolet, and a pair of French brothers who invented the movies? And now they are doing what only a good friend can do -- tell you the truth about yourself, straight, no b.s. Quit pissing on the French and thank them for getting it right for once. You know, you really should have traveled more (like once) before you took over. Your ignorance of the world has not only made you look stupid, it has painted you into a corner you can't get out of. Well, cheer up -- there IS good news. If you do go through with this war, more than likely it will be over soon because I'm guessing there aren't a lot of Iraqis willing to lay down their lives to protect Saddam Hussein. After you "win" the war, you will enjoy a huge bump in the popularity polls as everyone loves a winner -- and who doesn't like to see a good ass-whoopin' every now and then (especially when it 's some third world ass!). So try your best to ride this victory all the way to next year's election. Of course, that's still a long ways away, so we'll all get to have a good hardy-har-har while we watch the economy sink even further down the toilet! But, hey, who knows -- maybe you'll find Osama a few days before the election! See, start thinking like THAT! Keep hope alive! Kill Iraqis -- they got our oil!! Yours, Michael Moore www.michaelmoore.com _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 00:44:06 +0000 From: "Anthony J Hoffmann" Subject: Re: NPR: Music / P+E List <"#2. I'd like to propose this become a Poe/Music-only list. You wanna talk war? Go join a different group. I've noticed that each Angry Psycho is dramatically and dynamically different from another. I'm talking age, backgrounds, experiences, etc. Discussions and arguments on NPR subjects are about as meaningful as Oregon's commitment to education."> I'll second that. All of this bickering is doing nothing but getting everyone more angry. I was just sick of all of the protesting, so I responded, and then it just keeps going back and forth. Anyway, I won't be checking my mail for awhile anyway... Have fun you guys. Hopefully we'll be back soon :) "si pacem vis habere para bellum" - Constantine "If You Want Peace, Be Ready For War" _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:53:32 EST From: KoiJamas@aol.com Subject: NPR And PR :) NPR: I can be apathetic to the war. I'd rather treat it as another Vietnam because I don't believe in causing wars or being the agressor, but the only thing I see to rebel against is this Freedom Fry thing. I think that it's all a matter of political opinion and that we have no reason to flame each other. Go on. Flame me. PR: I've begun turning my entire school (of about 100 since it's a school for a different sort of students,) into Poe fans. This includes the faculty. I have some really great teachers who have even bought House of Leaves because of me. I feel like a saint. - -Bridget ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:55:48 -0500 From: "Carolyn K" Subject: music~ Evanescence Has anyone heard this band!?!? some of the songs seem similar to poe.. eexcept louder.. there is a mans voice in the back ground of a afew songs including "wash it all away" and she has a song "haunted" anyways check it out.. you likely know "bring me to life" _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 20:26:33 EST From: BldRnr3@aol.com Subject: Re: Michael Moore's letter and what not... Dissent is not unamerican. Countries where everyone falls in line with what the guys in charge say look like Nazi Germany, or Iraq (like when Saddam's recent election earned him 100% of the vote). Most people who appose this war don't appose the idea of disarming Saddam. They just think that the UN is a better tool for that than the US working unilatterally. Or at least NATO. Pissing on every treaty the US is currently involved in isn't the best way to do it. Hans Blix reported that Iraq would be successfully disarmed in a period of months, and that their work was getting more and more cooperation. Partly because the US was putting military pressure on Iraq. The case for war has been built on flimsy evidence (the link between al Qaida and Hussein being based on the statements of a guy who's in prison in kurdistan, and not considered trustworthy by anyone, CIA stating that Hussein isn't likely to use what weapons he may have unless he's attacked, the Brits giving the UN a report on Iraq that was cut and pasted from a report written by a grad student in the early 90s...it goes on and on), and no real effort has been made for diplomacy. Americans who argue with US policy don't do it because they hate America. We do it because we love this country, and want to see it do better than it is. As for supporting the troops....the Republican controlled House passed a budget that cuts $15 billion (with a b) in funding for veterans programs. As for Moore wanting to disarm america, as part of his commie plot. Moore is a member of the NRA. He doesn't want to remove the right to bear arms. He wants to require some more common sense. the US has over 11,000 shooting deaths a year. Countries like Japan, Canada, and the UK have less than 1% of that many. The point of his movie is that people in this country resorts to violence far quicker than most people elsewhere in the world, and we should look into why that is. This war looks like just another example of that fact. Another thing...how does wanting the troops home and safe constitute not supporting them? my $.02.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 20:53:01 EST From: NoisyPollution@aol.com Subject: Re: Michael Moore's letter and what not... The *communist* stands and applauds you ;) Peace, MeLissA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:45:04 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR - WAR In a message dated 3/19/03 7:30:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, ajhoff55@hotmail.com writes: << I would like to see the people responsible for the war crimes in Kuwait to be brought to justice, but I guess everyone has forgotten all about that. >> Um...that might include our current president as well as his illustrious daddy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:38:51 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Overall Subject: NPR NPR NPR NPR I don't give a fuck!!!!! I don't give two shits about the last months worth of threads!!!!!!!!! Please, PLEASE, PLEEEAAASSSEEE!!!!!!!! Use NPR NPR for your stupid shit that no one cares about!!!!!!! Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V8 #60 **********************************