From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V8 #1 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Friday, January 3 2003 Volume 08 : Number 001 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Merry New Year, Psychos [Robert Cobb ] NPR - Cloning Debated - Virgin Births [Davey08@aol.com] Re: NPR - Cloning Debated - Virgin Births [LotteP0T0@aol.com] NPR 12 million fanatics who believe America is the Great Satan ["sp00k@po] Re: NPR 12 million fanatics who believe America is the Great Satan ["Andr] NPR: Dar Williams [indigofaerie ] Re: NPR 12 million fanatics who believe America is the Great Satan [CtPro] Re: NPR: Dar Williams [LotteP0T0@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:22:38 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Cobb Subject: Merry New Year, Psychos Merry New Year! Jan 2 is also the internet's birthday. Happy Birthday Internet! The would have been no "Hello" without you. Have a crunchy '03 psychos. ===== Adahlfin Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:52:16 EST From: Davey08@aol.com Subject: NPR - Cloning Debated - Virgin Births >>Or we could just say it's another "virgin" birth. The child has no known >>human father. It is apparent that no one knows (or at least those who know are staying quiet) how cloning really works. Step 1. An egg cell is fertilized with a sperm cell (No father? Yeah right.) Step 2. The nucleus of the resulting zygote is replaced with the nucleus of the donor cell. Step 3. A small amount of electrical charge is applied to jump-start cell division. Step 4. Implantation in the uterus of surrogate mother. From there on it's baby city as usual. Dave Harty [Zampanosdead] Dave est mon nom Zampano est l'auteur Poe est mon Diesse Je ne parle pas De frangais - -> http://get.to/poesplace <- http://www.geocities.com/run_rom_run/houseofleaves.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/House_of_Leaves "Dans la maison, l'obscuriti me consommera." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:21:15 EST From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR - Cloning Debated - Virgin Births hmm...That's not at all how I've heard it's done. The way I've heard/seen it described implies that the child has only one natural parent. I'll have to do some searches or something and see if I can find it out there somewhere. Okay...here's what I've found http://www.cnn.com/interactive/health/0103/human.cloning/frameset.exclude.html It's a virtual tour on CNN.com on how cloning is done. By the sounds of it, though that is *one* of the ways it is done, there's another way, which is the one I've heard. Lindsay ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ http://etherealreality.org "With you there's no easy answer--it's true--you change the equation I add up to. And all of the things that I thought I knew--you turn it around...I'm amazed...When push comes to shove what I'd give to you--everything...I'm amazed..." - --POE, Amazed "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:45:59 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: NPR 12 million fanatics who believe America is the Great Satan "Jihad devolved from ancient religious decrees" By Arnaud de Borchgrave THE WASHINGTON TIMES Full story http://www.washtimes.com/world/20030102-87113868.htm "... Ninety-nine percent of the world's 1.2 billion Muslims are moderate and see jihad as a self-cleansing process to get back on the path of spiritual excellence. Leaders such as Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Pakistan's Gen. Pervez Musharraf, King Abdullah II of Jordan, King Fahd of Saudi Arabia, King Mohammed VI of Morocco all have told this reporter in the past two years that Islamist extremists are no more than 1 percent of their population. When Gen. Musharraf was reminded that 1 percent of Pakistan's population of 140 million is 1.4 million, he said, "You're right, but I'd never thought of it that way." One percent of 1.2 billion Muslims worldwide is 12 million fanatics who believe America is the Great Satan, fount of all evil, to be attacked and demolished. Islamist terrorist groups have plenty of places to hide - the tri-border area of Brazil, Bolivia and Paraguay, where camps have been reported; war-torn Colombia; Somalia in Africa; Sumatra in Indonesia; Mindanao in the Philippines; even remote areas of the United States. Muslims are a majority in 63 countries. Of the 30 conflicts now under way in the world, 28 concern Muslim governments, communities, or both. Amir Taheri, an Iranian author and journalist, estimates that two-thirds of the world's political prisoners are held in Muslim countries, which also carry out 80 percent of all executions each year. Many of the imams in America's 2,000-plus principal mosques (for a population of about 2 million Muslims) are recently naturalized U.S. citizens who were sent over as missionaries from both Iran and Saudi Arabia. "We are spreading the good word of our faith in America," said the imam at the Islamic House of Wisdom in Dearborn Heights, Mich., who came over from Iran 10 years ago, "just as you send Christian missionaries to sub-Sahara Africa." He also chided his interlocutor for dismissing his contention that September 11 was a combined operation by the CIA and Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service. Vatican sources concede Roman Catholic efforts have been steadily losing ground in Africa to "the Muslim penetration" for the past 30 years. In Pakistan, fundamentalist Muslim clerics have resisted any reform of the madrassas, the Koranic schools that have been used to inculcate anti-U.S. and anti-Israeli views. Among the teachings current in such schools: A great apocalyptic war is in the offing that will end in the Muslim conquest of Europe, and, in time, America as well. Some 750,000 young Pakistanis are presently in 11,000 madrassas where they are taught that jihad is the noblest of human endeavors. Gen. Hamid Gul, a former Pakistani intelligence chief with pronounced anti-American views, boasts that a greater Islamic caliphate is fast approaching, one that will combine the oil riches of Saudi Arabia with the nuclear weapons of Pakistan, "which could then deal with America on an equal footing." In Singapore, former Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew, said that the "greatest threat facing civilization over the next 10 years was an Islamist bomb and, mark my words, it will travel." It is hard to escape the conclusion that a U.S. invasion of Iraq to topple Iraqi strongman Saddam Hussein and replace him with a pro-American government will be seen throughout radical Islam, and large segments of moderate Islam as well, as yet another defeat that must be avenged. As the extremists read history, the defeat of the Ottomans at the gates of Vienna in 1683 triggered a reversal of Islam's fortunes that has continued ever since. The radical Islamic strains put to a severe test President Bush's oft-repeated contention that Islam is "a faith based upon peace and love and compassion" committed to "morality and learning and tolerance." Radical Islam is committed to jihad against the United States and Israel, or a war of civilizations between the Judeo-Christian West and the impoverished Muslim world. The Wahhabis and Deobandis hate all things American, and condemn all religions outside their own view of Islam. Moderate Islam is yet to find a voice that will roll back the extremists, a sort of Islamic Martin Luther, or at least a Martin Luther King." sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://RocPic.Com Http://DigitalSter.Com Http://UnitedChats.Com ================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:06:33 -0500 From: "Andrea E. Jackman" Subject: Re: NPR 12 million fanatics who believe America is the Great Satan that's crazy . . . i was just in MI, specifically Dearborn Heights where my parents live and you wouldn't recognize the neighborhoods anymore. i can tell you that nearby Dearborn is also the home to a large Arab-American population. One in four adults in the city of 91,000 is Arab-American; 58 percent of the children are Arab-American. in essence it is the largest Arab population outside the Middle East. The dynamic growth of southeastern Michigan's Arab population shows no signs of slowing down. Projections indicate that Michigan's Arab American population will reach the half-million mark by the year 2010. going to Henry Ford Community College there during the first Bush administration was tense, as you can imagine, equal to the race riots that flamed the cities during the cities. you couldn't even get through an English class without discussing politics and the bombing of Baghdad. women wearing the burka (also bourka or burqa) over their American blue jeans were pitied and frowned upon by the progressively feminist campus. The burka is the mode of modest dress, the Islamic woman's costume, which consists of a veil / shawl. It's worn when she goes out in public in Afghanistan & Pakistan, where she is not to have a shape discernable to within 50 lbs of her actual weight. Many Muslims living in America use a particular form of headscarf known as hijab, which is a shawl that drapes around the women's head and shoulders, and that was more common, but still a distraction. To many women, it said "slave." even so, to bring it full circle, history shows that Henry Ford engineered not only automation of the car production industry, but he engineered the cities that surrounded the Rouge River plant. Ford put out the call for factory labor brought many immigrant workers, and a monstrous proportion of them were Arabic. The city of Inkster housed his black populations, Dearborn Heights belonged to his blue collar middle class workers, prominent upscale East Dearborn housed his white collar workers, and West Dearborn housed his Arab populations. The cities are still stratified like that today. It was Henry Ford who in the 1930s built the Soviet Union's first modern automobile plant (located at Gorki) and which in the 50s and 60s produced the trucks used by the North Vietnamese to carry weapons and munitions for use against Americans. At about the same time, Henry Ford was also the most famous of Hitler's foreign backers, and he was rewarded for this long-lasting support with the highest Nazi decoration for foreigners. July 1938, on his seventy-fifth birthday, he was awarded the Grand Cross of the Supreme Order of the German Eagle. Ford was the first American and the fourth person in the world to receive this medal, which was the highest decoration that could be given to any non-German citizen. Benito Mussolini, another of Hitler's financiers, had been decorated with the same honor earlier that year. The presentation was made in Ford's Dearborn office by the German Counsul on Cleveland, Karl Kapp, and Consul Fritz Hailer of Detroit. Kapp placed the silk red sash over Ford's right shoulder. The sash was worn in a diagonal line from the right shoulder to the left hip where it was clasped with a gold and white cross. Kapp then pinned a large, shining star-shaped medal of Ford's white suit. The decoration was given "in recognition of [Ford's] pioneering in making motor cars available for the masses." Hitler's personal congratulatory message accompanied the award. And in kind, the wall behind the desk in Hitler's private office was decorated with a large picture of Henry Ford. i mention this tie because there are ongoing marches in Dearborn about the war in Afghanistan and there is a large Palestinian population there as well. The marchers denounce US support to Israel and American intervention in the Middle East and Afghanistan. What no one seems to be able to do is draw a connection between the Bush administration's war in Afghanistan and its support for Israeli aggression against the Palestinians. Many of the Arab people there feel that what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians is what Hitler did to the Jews, and a favorite chant is "Sharon, Hitler all the same, only difference is the name." Then there's this serious bullshit we're about to re-engage with Iraq . . . it's bad enough what happens outside of the US let alone what we do to our own people, less we forget there are Arab Americans you wouldn't even think about: Danny Thomas, Frank Zappa, Casey Kasem and Ralph Nader. it's no wonder we're perceived as the Great Satan. ///Andrea littleREDelf - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sp00k@poe.org" "We are spreading the good word of our faith in America," said the imam at the Islamic House of Wisdom in Dearborn Heights, Mich., who came over from Iran 10 years ago, "just as you send Christian missionaries to sub-Sahara Africa." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 17:30:43 -0700 (MST) From: indigofaerie Subject: NPR: Dar Williams for those of you not familiar, Dar Williams is a folk singer that has some quite beautiful tunes. You have a unique opportunity to become familiar with her music! 6 of her tracks are available to be heard on a flash player for free! These 6 tracks are further valuable in that they are off an album that has not been released yet! The release date for the new album, "The Beauty of the Rain," is February 18, 2003. All the songs are lovely, though my personal favorite is "The One Who Knows," which is the 6th track. Check it out! http://www.darwilliams.com/vlp/flashplayer.html - --emilie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 19:57:14 -0500 From: CtProse10@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR 12 million fanatics who believe America is the Great Satan Who cares if people are arab american. You know what? I'm German/Norwegian/French/Bohemian [german]/whatever. You can be whatever colour you wish, i don't really care. if you make a deal about nationalities in this country, in my opinion you are the bigot. "hitler sharon." Ye know what, sharon is in favour of a palestinian state. And every time talks get under way, the muslims blow up another preschool. or a bus. how does that make sharon Hitler? the masses can chant what they wish but that does not make them right God Bless - -me ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:00:13 EST From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Dar Williams >>All the songs are lovely, though my personal favorite is "The One Who Knows," which is the 6th track.<< mmm...That's definitely my favourite. Also, for fans of hers that were disappointed by the more "poppish" sound of her latest CD, The Green World, you should be pleasantly surprised by these tracks. It's definitely more remniscient of her older stuff, and the new songs are wonderful. Lindsay ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ http://etherealreality.org "With you there's no easy answer--it's true--you change the equation I add up to. And all of the things that I thought I knew--you turn it around...I'm amazed...When push comes to shove what I'd give to you--everything...I'm amazed..." - --POE, Amazed "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V8 #1 *********************************