From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V7 #356 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Tuesday, December 31 2002 Volume 07 : Number 356 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPR - Cloning debated ["Andrea E. Jackman" ] RE: NPR - Cloning debated ["John A. Bell" ] Re: NPR - Cloning debated [Davey08@aol.com] Re: npr cloning.. belly button [LotteP0T0@aol.com] Re: Center of the Sun lyrics request [LotteP0T0@aol.com] Re: npr cloning.. belly button [CtProse10@aol.com] Re: npr cloning.. belly button [CtProse10@aol.com] (no subject) [FallenAngel1204@aol.com] RE: npr cloning.. belly button ["Chris Baber" ] Re: npr cloning.. belly button ["sp00k@poe.org" ] RE: NPR - Cloning debated ["Pierce, Marshall" ] Re: (no subject) [CtProse10@aol.com] Re: npr cloning.. belly button [CtProse10@aol.com] Re: NPR - Cloning debated [CtProse10@aol.com] Re: npr cloning.. belly button [CtProse10@aol.com] Re: npr cloning.. belly button [PURPLMOJO@aol.com] Re: NPR murderous atheists [CtProse10@aol.com] Re: npr cloning.. belly button [KrodKnid@aol.com] Questions: Unanswered [Robert Cobb ] SPR murderous belly buttons! RUNNNNNN!!! [LotteP0T0@aol.com] Re: Questions: Unanswered [LotteP0T0@aol.com] Poe.Navelsex.com [Divinity ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 02:15:24 -0500 From: "Andrea E. Jackman" Subject: Re: NPR - Cloning debated with all due respect, it's a bit much to read scripture in a news list especially misquoted scripture, for "there are may rooms in the house of god" or more specifically : 'In my Father's house there are many rooms... I am going there to prepare a place for you' (John 14:2) i approach the religious books of writ as a scholar would, not as someone who truly thinks any of it other than a dimly inspired poetic morality guide. but there is a bridge for chaos theory quantum mechanics and the ineffable creative force and they can coexist on however many planes you want to assign. if any of that sounds worth exploring the ongoing saga, the timeless tiresome fight between science and religion, PLEASE READ THIS 3 page article: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.12/convergence.html //Andrea littleREDelf - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 12:53 AM Subject: Re: NPR - Cloning debated > > There is no such thing as Chaos in this world. > > For all that unfolds is God's plan, and that [however good or bad] is the way that it is meant to be... > > I have had more than my fair share of "bad" experiences. Ye know, a year out of 17 in the hospital. But that is the plan that God unfolded from me, its not because of some random guy in some random semi running some random stop light at some random intersection that i just happened to be at. > > I am uncertain about the existance of parrelel dimensions, for the scriptures say "there are many houses in the house of God" but i doubt that was meant in reference to multiple planes of existance. Frankly, i think that stuff is pretty much the product of an over active imagination with no proof to gloat. > > God Bless > -Christopher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 03:07:15 -0500 From: "John A. Bell" Subject: RE: NPR - Cloning debated Hrm. I wonder why you make a distinction between scholars and those who look at Scriptures as something "other than a dimly inspired poetic morality guide". I also wonder what you think the "ineffable creative force" is. - -jb - ----------------------------------- John A. Bell jbell126@optonline.net jbell126@nac.net - ----------------------------------- - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Andrea E. Jackman Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:15 AM To: CtProse10@aol.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: NPR - Cloning debated with all due respect, it's a bit much to read scripture in a news list especially misquoted scripture, for "there are may rooms in the house of god" or more specifically : 'In my Father's house there are many rooms... I am going there to prepare a place for you' (John 14:2) i approach the religious books of writ as a scholar would, not as someone who truly thinks any of it other than a dimly inspired poetic morality guide. but there is a bridge for chaos theory quantum mechanics and the ineffable creative force and they can coexist on however many planes you want to assign. if any of that sounds worth exploring the ongoing saga, the timeless tiresome fight between science and religion, PLEASE READ THIS 3 page article: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.12/convergence.html //Andrea littleREDelf - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 12:53 AM Subject: Re: NPR - Cloning debated > > There is no such thing as Chaos in this world. > > For all that unfolds is God's plan, and that [however good or bad] is the way that it is meant to be... > > I have had more than my fair share of "bad" experiences. Ye know, a year out of 17 in the hospital. But that is the plan that God unfolded from me, its not because of some random guy in some random semi running some random stop light at some random intersection that i just happened to be at. > > I am uncertain about the existance of parrelel dimensions, for the scriptures say "there are many houses in the house of God" but i doubt that was meant in reference to multiple planes of existance. Frankly, i think that stuff is pretty much the product of an over active imagination with no proof to gloat. > > God Bless > -Christopher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:51:13 EST From: Davey08@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR - Cloning debated "Chaos" as in unlimited affecters in a given environment. Chaos (in that sense) inhabits absolutely everything on this planet, from the tallest skyscraper to the smallest microbe, to the way your own veins and skin cells are distributed throughout your body. Dave Harty [Zampanosdead] Dave est mon nom Zampano est l'auteur Poe est mon Diesse Je ne parle pas De frangais - -> http://get.to/poesplace <- http://www.geocities.com/run_rom_run/houseofleaves.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/House_of_Leaves "Dans la maison, l'obscuriti me consommera." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:19:55 EST From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button >>And this; the Girl is giving birth to herself... She is her mother. So we could say that the child did have a father, for the father is the father of the mother that is the daughter. Or something all screwed up like that...<< Or we could just say it's another "virgin" birth. The child has no known human father. I have no clue where that came from, but for some reason the thought amused me because my family recently had a discussion on the "virgin births" throughout all those religions and mythologies. Lindsay ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ http://etherealreality.org "With you there's no easy answer--it's true--you change the equation I add up to. And all of the things that I thought I knew--you turn it around...I'm amazed...When push comes to shove what I'd give to you--everything...I'm amazed..." - --POE, Amazed "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:25:00 EST From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Re: Center of the Sun lyrics request A good site that I've found for lots of lyrics (groups and artists like POE, Lamb, Morcheeba, other not-so-well-knowns) is http://alwaysontherun.net/lyrics.htm The POE lyrics are at http://alwaysontherun.net/poe.htm Hope that helped :-) Linds ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ http://etherealreality.org "With you there's no easy answer--it's true--you change the equation I add up to. And all of the things that I thought I knew--you turn it around...I'm amazed...When push comes to shove what I'd give to you--everything...I'm amazed..." - --POE, Amazed "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:51:58 -0500 From: CtProse10@aol.com Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button It is not a virgin birth, for technically speaking the child still comes from a father, for when the original DNA was created, it came from both a father and a mother. Also, i doubt the woman is a virgin... And "littleredelf" If you think of the Bible as a "dimly inspired morality guide," i truly hope God has mercy on you, and opens your eyes to the love that is Him... For the Bible teaches to follow and Love Jesus greater than all. That if you place Jesus first in your life, you will do his will. To be a Christian is to LOVE God! And to live your life for him! And that is what i do. And i tell you what, ever since I made the decision to follow Christ in such an active manner, I have never been more fulfilled... God Bless You all! - -Christopher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:52:03 -0500 From: CtProse10@aol.com Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button It is not a virgin birth, for technically speaking the child still comes from a father, for when the original DNA was created, it came from both a father and a mother. Also, i doubt the woman is a virgin... And "littleredelf" If you think of the Bible as a "dimly inspired morality guide," i truly hope God has mercy on you, and opens your eyes to the love that is Him... For the Bible teaches to follow and Love Jesus greater than all. That if you place Jesus first in your life, you will do his will. To be a Christian is to LOVE God! And to live your life for him! And that is what i do. And i tell you what, ever since I made the decision to follow Christ in such an active manner, I have never been more fulfilled... God Bless You all! - -Christopher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:15:30 EST From: FallenAngel1204@aol.com Subject: (no subject) "If you think of the Bible as a "dimly inspired morality guide," i truly hope God has mercy on you, and opens your eyes to the love that is Him... For the Bible teaches to follow and Love Jesus greater than all. That if you place Jesus first in your life, you will do his will. To be a Christian is to LOVE God! And to live your life for him! And that is what i do." - ---You know... I think this religious debate really needs to stop. Everyone has a right to believe whatever they want... god or no God, or whatever. I mean we all have the right to voice our opinion on this list, but it seems to me like we are starting to try to push those opinions on other people that we dont really agree with. Hey, just my thoughts. Anyone who wants to flip out about it, feel free. Back to my little corner of the list. Jamie ~I'll give back your pogo stick as soon as you return my wasted time.~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:35:56 -0600 From: "Chris Baber" Subject: RE: npr cloning.. belly button I've had enough "preaching" for a while. Everyone will disagree forever about religion, and this is not the place to discuss it. Suffice it to say that there are many theories, and it may well be forever before one is proven over the other. Any news on the Poe in Vegas gathering? I have money to gamble, alcohol to drink, and music to hear; lets have some fun. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of CtProse10@aol.com Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 10:52 AM To: LotteP0T0@aol.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button It is not a virgin birth, for technically speaking the child still comes from a father, for when the original DNA was created, it came from both a father and a mother. Also, i doubt the woman is a virgin... And "littleredelf" If you think of the Bible as a "dimly inspired morality guide," i truly hope God has mercy on you, and opens your eyes to the love that is Him... For the Bible teaches to follow and Love Jesus greater than all. That if you place Jesus first in your life, you will do his will. To be a Christian is to LOVE God! And to live your life for him! And that is what i do. And i tell you what, ever since I made the decision to follow Christ in such an active manner, I have never been more fulfilled... God Bless You all! - -Christopher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:41:32 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Baber" > Any news on the Poe in Vegas gathering? I have money to gamble, alcohol to > drink, and music to hear; lets have some fun. ah in other words, less talk about religion, more about sin city... lol... sp00k etc ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:01:25 -0700 (MST) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button woo hoo... ******************************************************************* JK/// Jarrod Kniff Cyberfan Corporation jarrod@cyberfan.com ******************************************************************* http://www.poe.org http://www.shakedown.st ******************************************************************* On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, sp00k@poe.org wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Baber" > > > > Any news on the Poe in Vegas gathering? I have money to gamble, alcohol to > > drink, and music to hear; lets have some fun. > > > ah in other words, less talk about religion, more about sin city... lol... > > sp00k etc ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 13:03:27 EST From: NoisyPollution@aol.com Subject: Re: (no subject) It's also kind of ironic to state such strict religious beliefs on a Poe list, an artist who clearly writes about the confusion of a higher power. Anyone is entitled to believe whatever they want. By the way, if anyone wants their child to have such strong, religious, beliefs... don't send them to Catholic schools or any religious school :) I stopped believing in organized religion after I went to Catholic school, not when I was in public school. Peace, MeLissA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:03:22 EST From: HauntedIcicle@aol.com Subject: Re: Center of the Sun lyrics request In a message dated 12/30/2002 11:26:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, LotteP0T0@aol.com writes: > http://alwaysontherun.net/poe.htm Yep, that's where I found the "Center Of The Sun" lyrics. lol That's a handy little lyrics site. :) ~Tilly ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:21:21 EST From: LolipopFailure@aol.com Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button religion...an opinion right? well, everyone has an opinion on everything, and it is human nature to think we are right, and try to make the other person see that...but how come people get so tore up when the opinion comes to God? ...and the way the rain comes down hard...that's how i feel inside.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:05:51 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button - ----- Original Message ----- From: > religion...an opinion right? well, everyone has an opinion on everything, > and it is human nature to think we are right, and try to make the other > person see that...but how come people get so tore up when the opinion comes > to God? History will show that we now live in the WW III time period, that for all practicle purposes is a clash brought about due to mans conflicting religious views more than political views... sp00k etc ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:13:48 -0500 From: "Andrea E. Jackman" Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button can i get an AMEN! ////Andrea littleREDelf - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sp00k@poe.org" ah in other words, less talk about religion, more about sin city... lol... sp00k etc ... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Baber" > Any news on the Poe in Vegas gathering? I have money to gamble, alcohol to > drink, and music to hear; lets have some fun. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:17:47 -0500 From: "Andrea E. Jackman" Subject: Re: NPR - Cloning debated i am glad you wonder. but i fear the climate here doesn't make for open conversation. and besides, you don't really want to know what i think. most won't. you never know who you're speaking to until you talk about religion or politics which are increasingly the same thing. and Chris, your insulting my disbelief is just as incredulous and impolite as forcing your belief. ///Andrea littleREDelf - ----- Original Message ----- From: "John A. Bell" Hrm. I wonder why you make a distinction between scholars and those who look at Scriptures as something "other than a dimly inspired poetic morality guide". I also wonder what you think the "ineffable creative force" is. -jb - ----------------------------------- John A. Bell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:06:13 -0500 From: "Pierce, Marshall" Subject: RE: NPR - Cloning debated Oh, I want to know...=) I LOVE conversation!! - -----Original Message----- From: Andrea E. Jackman [mailto:littleredelf@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 3:18 PM To: John A. Bell; Angry Psycho Mailing Subject: Re: NPR - Cloning debated i am glad you wonder. but i fear the climate here doesn't make for open conversation. and besides, you don't really want to know what i think. most won't. you never know who you're speaking to until you talk about religion or politics which are increasingly the same thing. and Chris, your insulting my disbelief is just as incredulous and impolite as forcing your belief. ///Andrea littleREDelf - ----- Original Message ----- From: "John A. Bell" Hrm. I wonder why you make a distinction between scholars and those who look at Scriptures as something "other than a dimly inspired poetic morality guide". I also wonder what you think the "ineffable creative force" is. -jb - ----------------------------------- John A. Bell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:19:11 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: (no subject) In a message dated 12/30/2002 1:04:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, NoisyPollution@aol.com writes: > It's also kind of ironic to state such strict religious beliefs on a Poe > list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So...how many of you APs are Judyists, who worship the goddess Judy Tenuta? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:22:45 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Center of the Sun lyrics request In a message dated 12/30/2002 11:26:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, LotteP0T0@aol.com writes: > A good site that I've found for lots of lyrics (groups and artists like POE, > > Lamb, Morcheeba, other not-so-well-knowns) is > http://alwaysontherun.net/lyrics.htm The POE lyrics are at > http://alwaysontherun.net/poe.htm > > Hope that helped :-) > Poe Lyrics ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:34:26 EST From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button >>religion...an opinion right? well, everyone has an opinion<< *giggles* Just like everyone has a belly button--therefore tying it all back into the subject line! >>You know... I think this religious debate really needs to stop. Everyone has a right to believe whatever they want... god or no God, or whatever. I mean we all have the right to voice our opinion on this list, but it seems to me like we are starting to try to push those opinions on other people that we dont really agree with.<< Or gods ;-) But...agreed. Religious debates really get old on email lists really quickly. I was never trying to start a debate, just amusing myself--and I'm sure she's not a virgin either--hence the word in quotes in my post, but now I'm curious about someting else stemming from CT's reply. It's not really a religion question, just a question in general, though yes it has elements of religion... >>for technically speaking the child still comes from a father, for when the original DNA was created, it came from both a father and a mother.<< On the topic of cloning and virgin births...though the woman who gave birth had both a mother and a father, her DNA was her's. Yes it came from her parents whose came from their parents before and so on, but it was still *hers*. How would that really be different from "virgin births" in other religions and mythologies? The Buddha was a "virgin birth" with no specific father, so wouldn't it be the same thing? The mother's own DNA which was derived from her parents' DNA whose came from their parents before. I'm just confused as to how it would be any different. *shrugs* Something to ponder at the very least. Lindsay ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ http://etherealreality.org "With you there's no easy answer--it's true--you change the equation I add up to. And all of the things that I thought I knew--you turn it around...I'm amazed...When push comes to shove what I'd give to you--everything...I'm amazed..." - --POE, Amazed "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:37:17 EST From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Re: Center of the Sun lyrics request >http://lenny.dyadel.net/poe.htm< Ah...but see...that is the first POE lyrics site I found, and then it stopped working for the longest time...which is when I found it's successor (alwaysontherun.net)...which is where that link now forwards to...lol Lindsay ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ http://etherealreality.org "With you there's no easy answer--it's true--you change the equation I add up to. And all of the things that I thought I knew--you turn it around...I'm amazed...When push comes to shove what I'd give to you--everything...I'm amazed..." - --POE, Amazed "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin ------------------------------ Date: 30 Dec 2002 18:31:22 -0500 From: Divinity Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button Ok, bellybuttons have been mentioned.. http://poe.navelsex.com Tell me what kind of multimedia you want to see on there!! - -Ed ed@poe.org On Mon, 2002-12-30 at 17:34, LotteP0T0@aol.com wrote: > >>religion...an opinion right? well, everyone has an opinion<< > > *giggles* Just like everyone has a belly button--therefore tying it all back > into the subject line! > > >>You know... I think this religious debate really needs to stop. Everyone > has a right to believe whatever they want... god or no God, or whatever. I > mean we all have the right to voice our opinion on this list, but it seems to > me like we are starting to try to push those opinions on other people that we > dont really agree with.<< > > Or gods ;-) But...agreed. Religious debates really get old on email lists > really quickly. > > I was never trying to start a debate, just amusing myself--and I'm sure she's > not a virgin either--hence the word in quotes in my post, but now I'm curious > about someting else stemming from CT's reply. It's not really a religion > question, just a question in general, though yes it has elements of > religion... > > >>for technically speaking the child still comes from a father, for when the > original DNA was created, it came from both a father and a mother.<< > > On the topic of cloning and virgin births...though the woman who gave birth > had both a mother and a father, her DNA was her's. Yes it came from her > parents whose came from their parents before and so on, but it was still > *hers*. How would that really be different from "virgin births" in other > religions and mythologies? The Buddha was a "virgin birth" with no specific > father, so wouldn't it be the same thing? The mother's own DNA which was > derived from her parents' DNA whose came from their parents before. I'm just > confused as to how it would be any different. > > *shrugs* Something to ponder at the very least. > > Lindsay > > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > http://etherealreality.org > > "With you there's no easy answer--it's true--you change the equation I > add up to. And all of the things that I thought I knew--you turn it > around...I'm amazed...When push comes to shove what I'd give to > you--everything...I'm amazed..." > --POE, Amazed > > "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have > one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin - -- Divinity ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:51:27 -0500 From: CtProse10@aol.com Subject: Re: (no subject) I am not pushing my opinions on anyone. She said something, I corrected her. You can identify with what I say, or you can go to the next e-mail. in either case, its no skin off my back. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:56:41 -0500 From: CtProse10@aol.com Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button Its not about conflicting religious views anymore. It is about Muslims killing everyone that is not a muslim. 100% seriously, if I or people like me walked into more than half the countries in this world and professed our/my faith, we would be dead... over 165,000 Christians are killed every year, by Muslims and atheists. I have nothing against Muslims, but I just wish that they would stop trying to kill my family. I want to go to China with my brother sometime, but in China Christianity is written with the characters that mean "Evil Religion." And I would be arrested on site... So its not about Jews vs. Christians vs. Muslims. Its about Muslims trying to kill everyone else. Its not about the clash of religions, but attempt of one religion to wipe the others out... violently... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:58:55 -0500 From: CtProse10@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR - Cloning debated I forced nothing and you know that just as well as I. You said the Bible is a dimly lit morality guide. I corrected you. If that is forcing my belief, i apologize. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 20:03:53 -0500 From: CtProse10@aol.com Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button I am not too well versed in Buhdist Beliefs and what not, but I can explain to you what I know. The vergin birth of Jesus was not just Mary having a child with no father. Jesus is "God wrapped in skin." Jesus is the Holy Spirit/God that came to earth to live amoung us... Which was very important, for to be the messiah; the prophecies fortold that He must be born in Bethlehem [s/p] and of a virgin, out in the cold of the manjor [s/p]... God Bless - -Christopher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:22:26 -0500 From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button AMEN. 2003 the third year of the century, 3 letters in Sin. March is the 3rd month, Poes birthday is the 23rd. Drink 3 shots of Patron silver & bet it all on number 3 whoooooooo. I'm ready for Vegas Poe or no Poe the Angry Psycho's are coming to Vegas look out pretty soon they are gonna have to create a fan club for the Angry Psycho's I suppose we will let Poe join it even though she is not talking to anyone hmmf In a message dated 12/30/2002 3:13:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, littleredelf@comcast.net writes: > > > > can i get an AMEN! > > ////Andrea > littleREDelf > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sp00k@poe.org" > ah in other words, less talk about religion, more about sin city... > lol... > > sp00k etc ... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Baber" > > > > Any news on the Poe in Vegas gathering? I have money to > gamble, alcohol > to > > drink, and music to hear; lets have some fun. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:31:32 -0500 From: CtProse10@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR murderous atheists If you want to twist my words around, that is fine with me. Just don't hold your own thoughts against me... The figures are there, and they are true. More Christians were killed in the 20th century than the 2000 years before. In China 1 Church is allowed, and it is run by the government. All other churches, including house churches are considered illegal. People found worshiping outside of the official church are either imprisoned or murdered. Skim off the top and read the rest. The government church is allowed, all others are destroyed. In fact, the official church does not even truly preach the gospel. "Merderous atheists" as you so aptly [s/p] termed them. By that I mean communists governments that abolish any religion in their country, and murder those who still continue to worship. This was true in Russia, Romania [under soviet occupation] and is true in, China, North Korea, and a host of other countries. It is not the individual person, but the ruling body that instills such hatred upon there populace in an attempt to wipe out all that is of God. Christianity is seen as a threat to a communist government, for when someone comes to believe the gospel. They no longer stand for oppression by a secular government. Hence many great revolutions in History. If you absolutely oppose what I have to say Little Red Elf, that is fine with me. But do not attempt to twist my words. And the good people of China would be blessed to hear that they have a huge, free church... God Bless - -Christopher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:52:39 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: npr cloning.. belly button In a message dated 12/30/2002 7:57:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, CtProse10@aol.com writes: > Its about Muslims trying to kill everyone else. Its not about the clash of > religions, but attempt of one religion to wipe the others out... > violently... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Only certain radical sects of Musimism believe this stuff...and even some > of the most radical are NOT into wiping out Christians, merely in > establishing themselves as superior. They belierve in Jesus even, but as a > step along the way to Mohammed. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 20:14:00 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Cobb Subject: Questions: Unanswered Is Poe going to Virgin Records or what? Any details on the March Vegas party? When will Poe antenna toppers be available? I just want some answers, even if it's "She's going indie" "Not happening" "Never". Someone just answer. ===== Adahlfin Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 23:15:37 EST From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: SPR murderous belly buttons! RUNNNNNN!!! SPR: Sorta POE Related. Navelsex! I miss my poe.navelsex. I want to see the same sorts of stuff on it that was there before when it was my favourite site in the world. I think every religion at some point in time has tried to kill the rest. Or at least nearly all of them. The pagans tried to kill the Christians, the Christians tried to kill everyone who wasn't Christian, Hitler and his brand of Christianity tried to kill the Jews, the Puritans tried to kill the "witches," the Inquisition, etc etc etc. Remember..."God's on my side" according to every single side in a war. We've all tried to kill everyone else...and that's really about it. No use in getting around it. It's happened, it's happening, it will continue to happen in the future. I don't agree with it and I try to fight it in mroe peaceful ways, other people don't agree with it and try to fight it in mroe peaceful ways, but when things happen like *Sikhs* being descriminated against and assaulted because some *Islamic* *extremist* group did something very not nice. It'd be really nice if people could stop being blantantly ignorant and at least learn enough about other religions to be able to tell the difference between a Sikh and a Muslim--and to learn that it really wasn't the fault of the entire Islamic population, either. There are extremists in every religion. Because of this we have things like the Third Reich and the KKK and Al Queda and book-burners. It happens. Let's all stop being completely ignorant in the ways of others so we can learn to understand each other and get along. That's the only way any of this will even BEGIN to stop. Lindsay ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ http://etherealreality.org "With you there's no easy answer--it's true--you change the equation I add up to. And all of the things that I thought I knew--you turn it around...I'm amazed...When push comes to shove what I'd give to you--everything...I'm amazed..." - --POE, Amazed "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 23:20:41 EST From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Re: Questions: Unanswered I think the answer is just a plain "I don't know" on everybody's side. From the sounds of it, nobody has heard anything substantial. It's all hearsay and supposition and rumours. My answer is "I don't know." Lindsay ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ http://etherealreality.org "With you there's no easy answer--it's true--you change the equation I add up to. And all of the things that I thought I knew--you turn it around...I'm amazed...When push comes to shove what I'd give to you--everything...I'm amazed..." - --POE, Amazed "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin ------------------------------ Date: 30 Dec 2002 23:58:10 -0500 From: Divinity Subject: Poe.Navelsex.com Ok, so I decided since I finally had broadband, I'd upload some stuff to Poe.navelsex.com. So there's some stuff just dumped up there for now: http://poe.navelsex.com/files/ If you want to request stuff, here's a list of available files: http://poe.navelsex.com/files/PoeBackupCDs_05-19-02.txt Enjoy. :) As always, keep this within the AP family. Be on the lookout for something bigger in the world of Poe Multimedia in the near future. - -- Divinity ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V7 #356 ***********************************