From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V7 #310 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Sunday, November 10 2002 Volume 07 : Number 310 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPR - NHOLR - Quote [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR - NHOLR - Quote [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR - NHOLR - Quote [KrodKnid@aol.com] more political BS [KrodKnid@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 06:18:50 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR - NHOLR - Quote In a message dated 11/8/2002 9:01:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, NoisyPollution writes: > Yes, yes. In fact, a person running for some political position in Germany > related Bush to Hitler. I believe a German would be easily be able to see > what a power-hungry politician Bush is if Germany's already survived > Hitler. What about those Georgia elections where the Republican candidate > called the Democrat candidate unpatriotic for not supporting Bush's Home > Land Security bullshit when the Democratic candidate lost one arm and two > legs in the Vietnam fucking War. I totally agree with Dave Harty's e-mail > this morning when he related that war criminal's quote with what our > country's going through. Bush is a total dictator, what about that whole > 9/11 investigation he refuses to support? A lot of my friends who are > Republican think Bush is an idiot, as well. Hmmmm.. anyone can flame me all > I want, it's my opinion that Bush is a moron, hell a moronic dictator > wannabe, an ugly one at that. In my opinion, he's a total fascist. > Peace, MeLissA > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Heh, heh...do a web search on Herbert Walker some time. In case you don't > know it, George "Dubya" Bush's daddy, George H. W. "Poppy" Bush (the H. W. > stands for Herbert Walker of course), our former president and head of the > CIA, was named after his own daddy's best friend, a pro-Nazi sympathizer > from the WW II era and earlier. Walker was even busted or fined or > investigated or something for doing business with the Nazis right during > the freakin' war...and Grandpappy Bush was in the OSS at the time! They > aren't really Nazis though...they are neo-patrician, ultra-elitist, power > mongers. The British versions of the Herbert Walker type were actually > still doing business with their German buddies during the bombing of > Britain! These people believe they are above national and international law > and moral codes...that they are a superior breed of human being ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 06:20:11 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR - NHOLR - Quote In a message dated 11/8/2002 9:04:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, NoisyPollution writes: > By the way, I apologize for all of the grammar mishaps. I've had exams all > week long and needless to say, my brain is dead. Excuses, excuses... > Peace, MeLissA > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hah! It is really from playing too much rock&roll, as everybody knows. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 06:21:23 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR - NHOLR - Quote In a message dated 11/8/2002 11:45:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, CtProse10 writes: > basically, chose the one that is least evil. > for government is the beast. > > -Christopher > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Was that "beast" a typo? A fortuitous one if so:-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:37:39 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: more political BS A Los Angeles Times Editorial Since it's the threat of obscurantism we're hoping to thwart, let's be blunt: The Bush administration's plan to strip the Government Printing Office's authority is a threat to democracy. Office of Management and Budget Director Mitch Daniels wants to transfer control of information management from the printing office to individual Cabinet agencies. That would spell the end of the current system, in place since the Jeffersonian era, which requires executive branch agencies to send their documents and reports to neutral librarians, who then make them available to the public both online and in 1,300 public reading rooms nationwide. Daniels would replace that system with a more secretive one in which individual agencies would manage -- and possibly sanitize -- their own electronic databases. Currently, a federal agency such as the Pentagon can't delete an embarrassing passage from a historical document without first going through the hassle of asking each reading room to obscure the passage with a black marker. If Daniels gets his way, all an agency will have to do is call up the document in Microsoft Word and quietly hit Control X to delete the passage for eternity. Daniels says he's only trying to save taxpayer money. Giving Cabinet-level agencies the ability to select printing services on the basis of "quality, cost and time of delivery," he wrote, could save up to $70 million a year. That's a dubious claim, however, because the printing office already sends nearly two-thirds of its work to the private contractor with the lowest bid. As library experts have recently pointed out, privatization might or might not save money, but it certainly would diminish the public's access to information needed to make informed decisions. As Barbara Quint, Information Today's usually dispassionate columnist, fumed in September, Daniel's current push "threatens to gut federal document dissemination -- and fast." In his 1644 pamphlet "Areopagitica," the English poet John Milton (reacting to how the Catholic Church had arrested and silenced Galileo simply because the astronomer's views on the universe conflicted with its doctrines) warned that citizens who didn't know what their government was doing couldn't hold it accountable. In the late 18th century the words of an American lawyer, Patrick Henry, helped persuade Congress to pass legislation protecting the public's right to know. "The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure," Henry said, "when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." In deciding whether to keep the library system that works to keep executive branch agencies honest, Congress has a choice: trust the upstarts in the Bush administration or heed the wisdom that has guided the country for more than two centuries. Copyright 2002 Los Angeles Times Reprinted from The Los Angeles Times: http://www.latimes.com/la-ed-info8nov08,0,7711960.story ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V7 #310 ***********************************