From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V7 #272 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Thursday, September 26 2002 Volume 07 : Number 272 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: hol NPR ["Oona ***" ] Please go to this site... [Cyberfan Corporation ] Re: angry-psychos-digest V7 #269 [mark alec ] NPR: plea for Java help [Sharonda220@aol.com] Re: NPR: plea for Java help [LivTheMdns@aol.com] RE: NPR: plea for Java help ["Ed Hunsinger" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 02:41:26 -0500 From: "Oona ***" Subject: Re: hol NPR >It seems to have the same effect on my friends! I bought one of them his own >copy and he still hasn't touched it. Oh, well, at least he has it, he can't >escape it! lol, i did the same thing and the girl has not even started the book....wait i think she did start it, but she has not gotten very far. my b/f did read it though for me and he didnt like it at all. but he is a nonfiction person and so i dont think he could really get into it, but he made the effort, which is where it countstoodles*~*Tara*~* - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 01:45:36 -0700 (MST) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: Please go to this site... Please go to this site? Death is upon us and time is slow. ******************************************************************* JK/// Jarrod Kniff Cyberfan Corporation jarrod@cyberfan.com ******************************************************************* http://www.poe.org http://www.shakedown.st ******************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 07:43:21 -0700 (PDT) From: mark alec Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V7 #269 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 02:30:33 EDT From: Davey08@aol.com It seems to have the same effect on my friends! I bought one of them his own copy and he still hasn't touched it. Oh, well, at least he has it, he can't escape it! Dave Harty [Zampanosdead] i know what you mean. i bought a copy for my younger brother a while back (x-mas, i believe) and to my knowledge, it only made it as far as his bookcase. well, he started college this past week, so i'll stop by my parents at some point to see if he took it with him. funny thing is, he's really big into the complicated stuff (one of the reasons i got the book for him). oh well. mark alec http://www.worldofalec.org/ alec@poe.org the no-quote signature.. New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:20:22 EDT From: Sharonda220@aol.com Subject: NPR: plea for Java help Ok so i decide that i would like to take an intro to Java programming class. bad idea. bad bad bad idea. i took my intro to computers class. i have always used and been around computers. i'm good in math although i haven't done anything hard in a couple of years. but i'm totally pissed off. i have the 3rd edition of deitel's intro to java programming. i have Forte version 4 that i downloaded from sun per my teacher. i listen in class. i read the book. i get most of the concepts. then we are asked to do things i have no f***ing clue how to do. i'm like. the book doesn't have very many examples. our teacher doesn't give that many. i mean. it says like like what everything is. but i have no clue how to "Write an applicationn that reads an integer and determines and prints whether it is odd or even). i have a little idea. i write my int odd=3 or whatever. i have to use result to get my "even" or "odd" to output. but i'm really really struggling. it is supposed to be a class in which you do not have to have ANY prior programming experience and yet i sit down with my homework and while i can do the fill in the blanks homework writing a program in which i get barely any code samples is very very hard. i can't find any on sun's website (without downloading something which i'm not sure will have what i want anyway) and there is one site www.freejavahelp.com that helped a little but not much. i'm going nuts. i hate this class so much. any help, pointers, suggestions would be helpful. i dont know anyone who has had any java programming experience. i am going to try to ask someone in my class if i can. my teacher is not that approachable when it comes to "i have no f---ing clue what i'm doing" . HELP ME!!!! Shari ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 18:18:41 EDT From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: plea for Java help Switch to a class in C++... the java will seem easier. In a message dated 9/25/2002 2:21:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Sharonda220@aol.com writes: > Ok so i decide that i would like to take an intro to Java programming class. > > bad idea. bad bad bad idea. i took my intro to computers class. i have > always > used and been around computers. i'm good in math although i haven't done > anything hard in a couple of years. but i'm totally pissed off. i have the > 3rd edition of deitel's intro to java programming. i have Forte version 4 > that i downloaded from sun per my teacher. i listen in class. i read the > book. i get most of the concepts. then we are asked to do things i have no > f***ing clue how to do. i'm like. the book doesn't have very many examples. > > our teacher doesn't give that many. i mean. it says like like what > everything > is. but i have no clue how to "Write an applicationn that reads an integer > and determines and prints whether it is odd or even). i have a little idea. > i > write my int odd=3 or whatever. i have to use result to get my "even" or > "odd" to output. but i'm really really struggling. it is supposed to be a > class in which you do not have to have ANY prior programming experience and > > yet i sit down with my homework and while i can do the fill in the blanks > homework writing a program in which i get barely any code samples is very > very hard. i can't find any on sun's website (without downloading something > > which i'm not sure will have what i want anyway) and there is one site > www.freejavahelp.com that helped a little but not much. i'm going nuts. i > hate this class so much. any help, pointers, suggestions would be helpful. > i > dont know anyone who has had any java programming experience. i am going to > > try to ask someone in my class if i can. my teacher is not that > approachable > when it comes to "i have no f---ing clue what i'm doing" . HELP ME!!!! > Shari ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:27:09 -0400 From: "Ed Hunsinger" Subject: RE: NPR: plea for Java help Yeah, if you're interested in programming go for C++, once you know that most languages are easy to pickup. As for the Java, my suggestion would be to scour the internet. I've picked up most languages by using different sites. Code samples are easy to find on the internet, but by all means DO NOT just copy and paste. It might seem the easy way, but it'll bite you later. I had to program an operating system with a girl who had done that for her 4 years of Comp Sci. Needless to say, she had no clue what she was doing. Anyways, good luck, I'd offer my help, but I know no java.. yet.. :) but if I can help, drop me an email. - ----- Ed Hunsinger edward@hunsinger.org http://ed.hunsinger.org/resume.html - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org] On Behalf Of LivTheMdns@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:19 PM To: Sharonda220@aol.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: NPR: plea for Java help Switch to a class in C++... the java will seem easier. In a message dated 9/25/2002 2:21:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Sharonda220@aol.com writes: > Ok so i decide that i would like to take an intro to Java programming > class. > > bad idea. bad bad bad idea. i took my intro to computers class. i have > always > used and been around computers. i'm good in math although i haven't done > anything hard in a couple of years. but i'm totally pissed off. i have the > 3rd edition of deitel's intro to java programming. i have Forte version 4 > that i downloaded from sun per my teacher. i listen in class. i read the > book. i get most of the concepts. then we are asked to do things i have no > f***ing clue how to do. i'm like. the book doesn't have very many examples. > > our teacher doesn't give that many. i mean. it says like like what > everything > is. but i have no clue how to "Write an applicationn that reads an integer > and determines and prints whether it is odd or even). i have a little idea. > i > write my int odd=3 or whatever. i have to use result to get my "even" or > "odd" to output. but i'm really really struggling. it is supposed to be a > class in which you do not have to have ANY prior programming experience and > > yet i sit down with my homework and while i can do the fill in the > blanks > homework writing a program in which i get barely any code samples is very > very hard. i can't find any on sun's website (without downloading something > > which i'm not sure will have what i want anyway) and there is one site > www.freejavahelp.com that helped a little but not much. i'm going nuts. i > hate this class so much. any help, pointers, suggestions would be helpful. > i > dont know anyone who has had any java programming experience. i am going to > > try to ask someone in my class if i can. my teacher is not that > approachable > when it comes to "i have no f---ing clue what i'm doing" . HELP ME!!!! > Shari ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V7 #272 ***********************************