From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V7 #240 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Sunday, August 25 2002 Volume 07 : Number 240 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPR: EAR EMERGENCY NPR RESOLVED [LolipopFailure@aol.com] Re: give me 5 reasons to stay [bash ] Re: give me 5 reasons to stay ["BirdBlack" ] Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? ["Conor Riley" ] Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? ["Dan Mohrbacher" ] Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? ["Andrea E. Jackman" ] Stabbing Danward, Onagh, Nixon & Tripp @ RAINN Event. ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: MOVIES [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Has anyone else noticed... ["Conor Riley" ] Re: Has anyone else noticed... ["Andrea Mae" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 01:34:34 EDT From: LolipopFailure@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: EAR EMERGENCY NPR RESOLVED lol...that reminds me of onetime my exbf was thinking with a pencil in his ear and ended up going to the ER to get the eraser removed. eryn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:35:11 -0700 From: bash Subject: Re: give me 5 reasons to stay You should also stay because you are not alone in your frustration. There are or have been fan in-fights like this on just about every list I've been on (that's a lot in the 10 years I've ben on the net), and the worst thing that happens is that everyone leaves. Occasionally, the membership makes a collective decision to just ignore the fighting threads and carry on with the reason they were there in the first place. Those are lists that end up being really strong and I'm hoping that happens with this one. Conor Riley wrote: > > I like how you think. You should stay, because there will always be > something in your inbox. You should stay because I like your attitude > towards all this, You should stay because you love poe (hopefully). You > should stay because the little arguements are at times exciting. You should > stay because you are an ANGRY PSYCHO!...there are 5 reasons. > > You summed up a lot of what I've been thinking in this e-mail. I > agree--some people want to just speak their mind. > Please stay. > > Peace > Conor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sara McCullar" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 12:34 AM > Subject: give me 5 reasons to stay > > > > > i was gonna go with 10 but hell if someone can tell me 5 reasons to stay > on > > the angry psychos list and be somewhat glad to be an angry psycho then i > > might stick around. > > > > you people, god, don't you know that people don't care about your petty > > fights you have against a certain person or message boards or what not. if > > you're going to start name calling and such then take it to private > email.. > > i don't think i'm the only one that doesn't give a shit.. if i am then > well > > i am... > > > > i would also like to state that when you accept a position of some sort of > > power in a community you will get hate mail and such from people.. you > can't > > please everyone.. don't bitch about it.. just deal with it and move on.. > and > > don't take everything bad said as an attack at you or whatever it is you > are > > involved with because guess what.. there are some people who just like to > > state what they think and have no intentions of attacking anyone. > > > > i left.. i came back because i thought maybe things had changed.. i guess > > thats probably too much to have hoped for. > > > > Sara > > > > maybe she's just pieces of me you've never seen. -Tori Amos, Tear In Your > > Hand > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:44:38 -0500 From: "BirdBlack" Subject: Re: give me 5 reasons to stay Bah! If you can't stand the heat,.. get away from sp00k's bong. I stay for one reason,.. sp00k. He makes me laugh and laugh and laugh. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conor Riley" To: "Sara McCullar" ; Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 12:23 AM Subject: Re: give me 5 reasons to stay > > I like how you think. You should stay, because there will always be > something in your inbox. You should stay because I like your attitude > towards all this, You should stay because you love poe (hopefully). You > should stay because the little arguements are at times exciting. You should > stay because you are an ANGRY PSYCHO!...there are 5 reasons. > > You summed up a lot of what I've been thinking in this e-mail. I > agree--some people want to just speak their mind. > Please stay. > > Peace > Conor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sara McCullar" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 12:34 AM > Subject: give me 5 reasons to stay > > > > > > i was gonna go with 10 but hell if someone can tell me 5 reasons to stay > on > > the angry psychos list and be somewhat glad to be an angry psycho then i > > might stick around. > > > > you people, god, don't you know that people don't care about your petty > > fights you have against a certain person or message boards or what not. if > > you're going to start name calling and such then take it to private > email.. > > i don't think i'm the only one that doesn't give a shit.. if i am then > well > > i am... > > > > i would also like to state that when you accept a position of some sort of > > power in a community you will get hate mail and such from people.. you > can't > > please everyone.. don't bitch about it.. just deal with it and move on.. > and > > don't take everything bad said as an attack at you or whatever it is you > are > > involved with because guess what.. there are some people who just like to > > state what they think and have no intentions of attacking anyone. > > > > i left.. i came back because i thought maybe things had changed.. i guess > > thats probably too much to have hoped for. > > > > Sara > > > > maybe she's just pieces of me you've never seen. -Tori Amos, Tear In Your > > Hand > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 01:42:32 -0400 From: "Conor Riley" Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? Dan, Now sp00k has you where he wants you. You can't let him see that you're pissed. If you know you didn't say it, who cares? You could go around saying shit about me and I wouldn't give a flying fuck. If you really want to show sp00k you dont care, just ignore him. You can't kick him off the list, but if you ignore him, he'll most likely stop bugging you. Or you can take the second option, fight back--go ahead--the little arguments between you two are good readings sometimes on this list--i enjoy a good chuckle every now and then. The third option of course would be for you to leave, but thats what sp00k wants too. So basically you gotta forget him, if he's a bug up your ass, then show him you don't care. Sorry if it sounded like i was telling you what to do, but someone had to say it. Peace Conor - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 1:25 AM Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? > > In a message dated 8/24/2002 7:47:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > usscvn65@frontiernet.net writes: > > > > > > Really? I'd say that the discussion of Poe living in an abusive > > relationship with Johnny was a pretty degrading read. > > > > As usual, a total misquote. You really need to get back on your meds! I am > trying to ignore you, but this needed to be exposed for what it is, an out of > context misquote. In other words, Sp00ks normal drivel. > > Sorry for the interruption, please continue Sp00k... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 05:51:26 +0000 From: "Dan Mohrbacher" Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? No anger here, just correcting an error. I am ignoring most of them and will continue to do so. I have no intention of leaving the list or playing into Sp00ks hand. In this case I did express a concern in the MSN chat where I questioned the situation between Poe and John in relation to her years growing up in an abusive household ( as Poe and Mark have both spoken of.) In the context that I stated my opinion, it could not be construed as a derogatory statement. 90% of the stuff Sp00k puts out is BS and is easily ignore, I like it in a way because it awakens passions and people come check out not just DBR, but all the other sites Poe related. In this case, since this had a kernal of truth I felt it should be clarified. >From: "Conor Riley" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? >Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 01:42:32 -0400 > > >Dan, Now sp00k has you where he wants you. >You can't let him see that you're pissed. If you know you didn't say it, >who >cares? >You could go around saying shit about me and I wouldn't give a flying fuck. >If you really want to show sp00k you dont care, just ignore him. You can't >kick him off the list, but if you ignore him, he'll most likely stop >bugging >you. > >Or you can take the second option, fight back--go ahead--the little >arguments between you two are good readings sometimes on this list--i enjoy >a good chuckle every now and then. > >The third option of course would be for you to leave, but thats what sp00k >wants too. >So basically you gotta forget him, if he's a bug up your ass, then show him >you don't care. Sorry if it sounded like i was telling you what to do, but >someone had to say it. > >Peace >Conor >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 1:25 AM >Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? > > > > > > In a message dated 8/24/2002 7:47:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > usscvn65@frontiernet.net writes: > > > > > > > > > > Really? I'd say that the discussion of Poe living in an abusive > > > relationship with Johnny was a pretty degrading read. > > > > > > > As usual, a total misquote. You really need to get back on your meds! >I >am > > trying to ignore you, but this needed to be exposed for what it is, an >out >of > > context misquote. In other words, Sp00ks normal drivel. > > > > Sorry for the interruption, please continue Sp00k... _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 01:57:30 -0400 From: "Andrea E. Jackman" Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sp00k@poe.org" > > NOTHING bad was ever said about POE on the DBR, > EVERYONE would llike to hear from her. "Really? I'd say that the discussion of Poe living in an abusive relationship with Johnny was a pretty degrading read. But Im sure you had the nazi cleaning crew go through and clean that one up." ___________________________________________ nope, that thread still exists, in all its ugliness. and i'd link you, but that would only piss you off. ///Andrea littleREDelf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 01:53:25 -0400 From: "Andrea E. Jackman" Subject: Re: NPR DBR hiding/purging records? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sp00k@poe.org" "Who gives anybody the right to PURGE RECORDS? They BELONG to the AP's, I didn't hear about any vote on this, you people do absolutely run things like a DICTARTORSHIP, and now just like TRUE NAZI's you will now TRY to rewrite HISTORY!" well, whoever runs p-o-e is a FAR worse offender. but back to DBR --- to be lengthy and so as NOT to link our message board rules state the following: The DATA BACKROAD is a mostly, a real-time posting forum. We as ADMINISTRATORS do NOT live here; we do not actively monitor the contents of posted messages and it is impossible for us to review messages or confirm the validity or importance of information posted. Please remember that we are not responsible for the content, accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any messages posted here. The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of the DBR or any entity associated with it. Having said that, we allow you an incrediable amount of freedom and many forums to express yourselves, literally, artistically, poetically, psychologically, spiritually, philosophically, sexually, angrily . . . so long as you do it where it is welcome. Any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us (ANY administrator) immediately by email. We have the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary. This is a manual process, however, so please realize that we may not be able to remove or edit particular messages immediately. You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use the DATA BACKROAD to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory against any other user or POE. We will not tolerate any post that is directly abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, wildly obscene, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. Obvious and complete irreverence for these rules may result in any of the following: posts being monitored before ever reaching the light of the DBR, specific offending users being monitored, or specific posts and/or users being denied permissions entirely. TROLLS and FLAMERS and UNDERWEAR GNOMES (oh my!) will be dealt with swiftly and harshly. The honest truth is . . . the DBR reserves the right to delete any message for ANY or NO reason whatsoever. But we will probably request that you as the user, remove anything that receives public outcry from our community. Though we are ANGRY PSYCHOS, though we are individuals, we are also mindful and respectful. and now for the LEGAL song and dance . . . You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold harmless this BBS, Madrona Park, Inc. (the makers of the bulletin board software), and their agents with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). We at this community also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or whatever information we know about you) in the event of a complaint or legal action arising from any message posted by you. Please note that advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are not only inappropriate in this community but a fucking annoyance. there is nothing to hide. i reserve the fucking right. move along. ///Andrea littleREDelf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 23:32:42 -0700 From: "nata lie" Subject: Re: give me 5 reasons to stay >>Bah! If you can't stand the heat,.. get away from sp00k's bong.<< being a stoner makes you peaceful, docile and quiet. :) and hungry. ~tali - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 09:50:49 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: Dan is RIGHT! stabbed at RAINN event? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? > > Really? I'd say that the discussion of Poe living in an abusive > > relationship with Johnny was a pretty degrading read. > > > > As usual, a total misquote. DAN IS RIGHT!!!! He IS misquoting ME! Where did I quote anybody? I only MENTIONED that there was a thread on the DBR relating to Poe living in an abusive relationship with Johnny. Hey, DAN, but THANKS for acknowledging that the thread does/did exist Since you are WILLING to acknowledge the thread, would you like to ELABORATE some more on this subject, as I am sure that YOU DAN recall the contents of this particular thread better than I, or do YOU have something to HIDE? Come on DAN and the clowns, let's have a POE related discussion on this topic... Come on... speak uP. sp00k etc ... You really need to get back on your meds! I am > trying to ignore you, but this needed to be exposed for what it is, an out of > context misquote. In other words, Sp00ks normal drivel. > > Sorry for the interruption, please continue Sp00k... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 07:03:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Kate Harper Subject: Re: Dan is RIGHT! stabbed at RAINN event? i can't believe i'm about to send this, but: sp00k, dear, you're such a spaz. that is all. harper, who doesn't believe in the big, evil dan and one messageboard's (oooo, watch out) quest for world domination. - --- "sp00k@poe.org" wrote: > > DAN IS RIGHT!!!! He IS misquoting ME! > > Where did I quote anybody? > > I only MENTIONED that there was a thread on the > DBR relating to Poe living in an abusive > relationship with Johnny. > > Hey, DAN, but THANKS for acknowledging that the > thread does/did exist > > Since you are WILLING to acknowledge the thread, > would you like to ELABORATE some more on this > subject, as I am sure that YOU > DAN recall the contents of this particular thread > better than I, or do YOU have something to HIDE? > > Come on DAN and the clowns, let's have a POE > related discussion on this topic... Come on... > speak uP. > > sp00k etc ... Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:03:39 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: Typical Dan stabbed at RAINN event? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Mohrbacher" Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? > No anger here, just correcting an error. I am ignoring most of them and > will continue to do so. I have no intention of leaving the list or playing > into Sp00ks hand. > > In this case I did express a concern in the MSN chat where I questioned the > situation between Poe and John in relation to her years growing up in an > abusive household ( as Poe and Mark have both spoken of.) In the context > that I stated my opinion, it could not be construed as a derogatory > statement. MSN chat? We will come back to that some other time. I'm talking about the big discussion on the DBR, the one that you were the ADMIN of at the time. This is just more of the typical double speak that you and your clowns use... sp00k etc ... > > 90% of the stuff Sp00k puts out is BS and is easily ignore, I like it in a > way because it awakens passions and people come check out not just DBR, but > all the other sites Poe related. In this case, since this had a kernal of > truth I felt it should be clarified. > > > >From: "Conor Riley" > >To: , , > > > >Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? > >Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 01:42:32 -0400 > > > > > >Dan, Now sp00k has you where he wants you. > >You can't let him see that you're pissed. If you know you didn't say it, > >who > >cares? > >You could go around saying shit about me and I wouldn't give a flying fuck. > >If you really want to show sp00k you dont care, just ignore him. You can't > >kick him off the list, but if you ignore him, he'll most likely stop > >bugging > >you. > > > >Or you can take the second option, fight back--go ahead--the little > >arguments between you two are good readings sometimes on this list--i enjoy > >a good chuckle every now and then. > > > >The third option of course would be for you to leave, but thats what sp00k > >wants too. > >So basically you gotta forget him, if he's a bug up your ass, then show him > >you don't care. Sorry if it sounded like i was telling you what to do, but > >someone had to say it. > > > >Peace > >Conor > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: > >To: ; > >Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 1:25 AM > >Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/24/2002 7:47:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > usscvn65@frontiernet.net writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Really? I'd say that the discussion of Poe living in an abusive > > > > relationship with Johnny was a pretty degrading read. > > > > > > > > > > As usual, a total misquote. You really need to get back on your meds! > >I > >am > > > trying to ignore you, but this needed to be exposed for what it is, an > >out > >of > > > context misquote. In other words, Sp00ks normal drivel. > > > > > > Sorry for the interruption, please continue Sp00k... > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:44:47 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: Head Shrinker : Dan stabbed at RAINN event? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea E. Jackman" Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? > unless you'd like to pick another > derrogatory term for me, > which you have done in the past. I called you the Head Nurse, I meant Head Shrinker... no doubt. > > and you have a few faces yourself: > one talks about the DBR supposedly controlling info: > "Who is this "WE" that is controlling access to information? > The main form of communications for the Angry Psychos is the e-mail list." > > which means that the AP list is the end all be all, > and NO ONE else. > so it's ok for the AP list and not > p-o-e Oh suddently p-o-e.com is your best friend, ? or the DBR You ARE the DBR > or shell If we heard from you and the clowns as much as we hear from shell, there wouldn't BE any issues. or poe.org If we heard from you and the clowns as much as we hear from Poe.Org aka Jarrod, there wouldn't be any issues. > all of which/whom host the same information. No, the DBR dilutes the content of the AP list, and then turns around and says you must go to the DBR to get the same information. This way you can have ugly discussions such as who is stealing money from the Poe store, and how Poe can't make correct decisions, and sue kids, for a few examples, out of sight of the e-mail list. > THAT is a contradiction. > we are all (i hope) attempting equal sharing of info > just in different medias. Note the word "attempting" just to cover your ass. > > and then when anyone from the DBR > have albeitm, BAD attempts at posting links to info > when we've learned that at least you as a user > would like to see it all typed out, It's nice to post a link WITH the information. Try the BIG F1 key there, and check out "Copy and Paste" sorry you don't know enough to use this feature. > people get blown sideways about trying to > "direct traffic" to the DBR of which you said: > > "The DBR is really a major distraction, > but perhaps it would not be if you would just shut up > and your cast of clowns would stop working on their version of an online > utopia > for a group that is called the Angry Psychos. Get real will ya?" > > the only only directing traffic is YOU > everytime you spew some awful insult. > 25 new users this week. > And i sure the fuck hope it's a major distraction. > we have to something while we have no POE > to argue about and clamor for attention, > no wonder she doesn't talk to us, > and tries to disassociate herself. > > maybe ALL of our times have come, > all the stratifications, > all the factions > all the elitists. > all the bullshit which saps my > and other's energies. > > i have only tried to create a fun space, OK Ani wannabe, now you are a victim, WHO ASKED YOU? > Dan is not even involved: > he dumped the bandwidth on me and Zoey and said > run with it and do it. He dumped what? the bandwidth? I thought the place belonged to the Angry Psychos, who elected Dan god? If he is not "involved" how does he provide the bandwith? Doesn't that prove involvement? > and and "online utopia" is NOT a bad thing to strive for > considering the nature of the nonsensical > arguing that goes on here. Stop trying to build it, and it might happen, but no, you and the clowns must FORCE the issue. > > if all POE references were removed from the DBR, > it would be a peaceful place entirely, > and much to your satisfaction, > that is a great possibility. If it is a great possibility, it is the work of the DBR clowns. sp00k etc ... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:12:08 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: DBR hiding/purging records? > there is nothing to hide. > i reserve the fucking right. > > move along. Then stop claiming to represent the Angry Psychos YOU do not speak for the group, you have NO FUCKING RIGHTS. Move this. sp00k etc ... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:51:08 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Stabbing Danward, Onagh, Nixon & Tripp @ RAINN Event. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Onagh Levy" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:11 PM Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? > > Ah what the hell, I'll take the bait. Sometimes the worm on the hook is just too juicy to pass up: > > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:13:53 -0400 > From: "sp00k@poe.org" > Subject: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? > > <> > > Anybody have any other info on this continuing DRAMA ??? > > Yes, and let me tell you DRAMA is the perfect description. Especially when a perfect stranger begins dishing dirt on people who are no more than mere email addresses floating around in cyberspace. > > Who are the AP's? > > Myself and someone else - a well known AP who left the list in a huff. > > What is the REST of the story? > > It really isn't any of your business. But suffice it to say that there was a cell phone involved, with Dan on the other end of the line. A total accident which I didn't find out about until approximately 45 minutes after the concert and I was in my car driving home. That will teach me to enter a crowd of people with a cell phone in my purse! Pesky re-dial - what's a girl to do? It all sounds precious enough, LOL! was the ghost of Nixon relaying the information to Dan from your purse while Linda Tripp prodded on the offending AP's to tell Poe the truth? Not content with his illicit information gathering expidition, he comes back to the Angry Psychos e-mail list and WHINES like a bitch about it. Then all you people get in a hufff cause I say there are issues here... Where are the missing tapes? Angry Psychos want to, and DESERVE to know!! sp00k etc ... with credits to the ghosts ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:01:22 -0500 From: "BadBender" Subject: NPR-Seen any good movies lately?-NPR Greetings AP's! Seen any good movies lately? On Friday night me and my lady went and saw XXX. Good action movie. Earlier this week I also rented (well actually my wife did) Crossroads, the Britney Spears movie, and last night we rented Hart's War. The Spears movie wasn't that bad, it still was a chick flick but interesting all the same and Hart's war wasn't your average war movie, it had some nice plot twists. Know of any other good ones floating around out there? "It's a fine night to have a evening." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 14:23:38 EDT From: CtProse10@aol.com Subject: MOVIES rent "I married an axe murderer" the title is something like that anyway. Myers dude, and some other crazy actors its pretty funny... personally, i don't much care about the current drama, i want another nerd flame. down with p4s ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Uhura Bisa Jones Subject: Has anyone else noticed... That whenever there's some sort of argument/flame/spam war going on the AP List, it's always Spook and Dan in the clusterfuck of it all, with peripheral hangers-on fueling the flames? This tells me that there IS obviously something to what Spook is saying. Dan seems to position himself as *the* guy to talk to about Poe, *the* guy with the most access, most information, most authority, and VOICE of the Angry Psychos. Think about it, when there is Poe info to come down the line, who disseminates it, however vague it is - Dan. Why does it seem like Dan is the only one who ever knows anything credible, new, or personal about Poe? The whole DBR business pisses me off. I signed up for THIS list to find out Poe info. I don't want to go to 2,3, or 4 other boards/sites to get that same info. Why the FUCK start a mailing list if you were just going to divdrt ppl to other links and sites? The reason that there is so much infighting is that many APs want to learn more about Poe. Many of us are *new* to APs (though I've been on this list for whatseems like forever, I can't say i know any more than I did *BEFORE* I joined...), and don't have any concert, backstage, or interview stories. We don't know the explanations behind the songs, Poe's family. what inspires and drives her. All we know is he said/she said BS from a bunch of people who seem to be insecure, self-righteous, pretentious blowhards who want to make themselves feel more important or get off on being "in charge". Meanwhile, they aren't doing ANYTHING to promote, enhance, or help Poe and her career. Not a damned thing. I though the whole point of becoming incorporated was to be able to help out as an organization, to work together to help Poe instead of being fractious and ineffective. Guess what? we're still fractious and ineffective, and there's MAJOR talent going to waste here because everyone in the clusterfuck is too busy worirying about protocol, who's "in charge", who gets credit, etc etc. My dear old southern granny used to say "don't start no shit and there won't be non". In the vey first post Dan made about this shit ahppening at RAINN, he was completely manipulative, not to mention passive-aggressive - he *wanted* to start shit. And that's wrong. You can't shoot a flare in teh air and then get pissed whenver everyone comes running. Before anyone asks, no, i didn't read any of the posts that came afterwards. I deleted all of them. I am tired of this email account becoming just as bad as my fake spam email accounts for pure unadulterated BULLSHIT. Now, Spook. Spook this, spook that. Blah blah blah. Everyone wants to blame and attack spook. Spook is the guy saying, "hey, someone pissed in the drinking well..we should do something about that". His methods are harsh, and often incomprehensible and over the top. BUt fuck, HOW many times have we been through this and no one wants to listen to what he's *really* saying?! And in my opinoin, no one who holds any "position of power" (i.e. TITLE) within the AP, Inc - should have ANY say in what spook says, because ultimately, they're probably just in it to save their own ass and cover shit up, assuming they even know the whole story or "FACTS" to begiin with. See? This whole list has become what it never should have been: POLITICAL CRAP. ANd while everyone's fighting, Poe is languishing. Is this to be the AP's legacy? Now, if you'll excuse me, there' a sweet old lady who needs her weeds pulled. Uhura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 15:18:22 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: MOVIES In a message dated 8/25/2002 2:23:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CtProse10@aol.com writes: > rent "I married an axe murderer" the title is something like that anyway. > > Myers dude, and some other crazy actors > > its pretty funny... > > personally, i don't much care about the current drama, i want another nerd > flame. > > down with p4s > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, I just put an ancient Intel EtherExpress 16 into my brother's old P233 'puter, which is going to my niece (my bro just got a new machine sans NIC and pirated his old one...so I pirated the Intel from his even older computer which I have as a spare). This EtherExpress is a base 10 NIC, and the damned thing runs away from my RealTek 10/100 over the same DSL connection. I am pissed! Oh...for some real good sleeper movies sort of in the Basic Instinct vein, try "Body Heat" (Kathleen Turner's debut), "Blood Simple" (Cohen brothers directorial debut...and not so Basic Instinct-ish), or "The Last Seduction" with Linda Fiorentino. That last one is one of the most outrageous murder flicks you will ever see...and hilarious in places too. Also, don't forget "Basic Instinct" if you haven't seen it. Get the uncut version if you can find it; it has some important (and hot) lezzie sex scenes that are only hinted at in the release version. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:30:41 -0400 From: "Conor Riley" Subject: Re: Has anyone else noticed... HEY! wanna be in my club? we've all noticed this and sort of accepted it, sp00k is a fighter, i've tried to say something about it but I got shot down mainly because of my age, the truth is and Dan will admit this too, no one, not even him knows ALL the facts. There are a bigillion rumors flying around about what really is happening. Thanks for your post tho b/c i know exactly where you are coming from..just watch out, there are gonna be some rude responses to this post. But stick around--i like how you think - -Conor - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Uhura Bisa Jones" Cc: "Angry-Psychos" Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: Has anyone else noticed... > > That whenever there's some sort of argument/flame/spam war going on the > AP List, it's always Spook and Dan in the clusterfuck of it all, with > peripheral hangers-on fueling the flames? > > This tells me that there IS obviously something to what Spook is > saying. Dan seems to position himself as *the* guy to talk to about Poe, > *the* guy with the most access, most information, most authority, and > VOICE of the Angry Psychos. Think about it, when there is Poe info to come > down the line, who disseminates it, however vague it is - Dan. Why does > it seem like Dan is the only one who ever knows anything credible, new, or > personal about Poe? > > The whole DBR business pisses me off. I signed up for THIS list to find > out Poe info. I don't want to go to 2,3, or 4 other boards/sites to get > that same info. Why the FUCK start a mailing list if you were just going > to divdrt ppl to other links and sites? > > The reason that there is so much infighting is that many APs want to learn > more about Poe. Many of us are *new* to APs (though I've been on this list > for whatseems like forever, I can't say i know any more than I did > *BEFORE* I joined...), and don't have any concert, backstage, or interview > stories. We don't know the explanations behind the songs, Poe's > family. what inspires and drives her. All we know is he said/she said BS > from a bunch of people who seem to be insecure, self-righteous, > pretentious blowhards who want to make themselves feel more important or > get off on being "in charge". Meanwhile, they aren't doing ANYTHING to > promote, enhance, or help Poe and her career. Not a damned thing. > > I though the whole point of becoming incorporated was to be able to help > out as an organization, to work together to help Poe instead of being > fractious and ineffective. Guess what? we're still fractious and > ineffective, and there's MAJOR talent going to waste here because everyone > in the clusterfuck is too busy worirying about protocol, who's "in > charge", who gets credit, etc etc. > > My dear old southern granny used to say "don't start no shit and there > won't be non". In the vey first post Dan made about this shit ahppening at > RAINN, he was completely manipulative, not to mention passive-aggressive - > he *wanted* to start shit. And that's wrong. You can't shoot a flare in > teh air and then get pissed whenver everyone comes running. Before anyone > asks, no, i didn't read any of the posts that came afterwards. I deleted > all of them. I am tired of this email account becoming just as bad as my > fake spam email accounts for pure unadulterated BULLSHIT. > > Now, Spook. Spook this, spook that. Blah blah blah. Everyone wants to > blame and attack spook. Spook is the guy saying, "hey, someone pissed in > the drinking well..we should do something about that". His methods are > harsh, and often incomprehensible and over the top. BUt fuck, HOW many > times have we been through this and no one wants to listen to what he's > *really* saying?! And in my opinoin, no one who holds any "position of > power" (i.e. TITLE) within the AP, Inc - should have ANY say in what spook > says, because ultimately, they're probably just in it to save their own > ass and cover shit up, assuming they even know the whole story or > "FACTS" to begiin with. > > See? This whole list has become what it never should have been: POLITICAL > CRAP. ANd while everyone's fighting, Poe is languishing. Is this to be the > AP's legacy? > > > Now, if you'll excuse me, there' a sweet old lady who needs her weeds > pulled. > > Uhura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:53:52 +0000 From: "Andrea Mae" Subject: Re: Has anyone else noticed... That's EXACTLY how I feel, although I'd lack the ability to put it down into words. Thank you. - -Andie _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:24:28 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Has anyone else noticed... In a message dated 8/25/2002 3:15:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jonesu@cc.wwu.edu writes: > Now, if you'll excuse me, there' a sweet old lady who needs her weeds > pulled. > > Uhura > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you going to smoke them too? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:47:02 -0500 From: JOE O NELSON Subject: Re: Has anyone else noticed... You know, I am glad that someone actually said something and I want to relate. I completely agree I thought that when I joined that we would get some inside information or something, seeing as how Poe herself acknowledges us in the Haunted cd thankyous but I know little more than I did before I joined. I am grateful that we may have the chance to meet Poe on her B-day. I don't want to bad mouth any one but Dan does start a lot of shit. On average I get like 20 e-mails a day from the AP's and they are all the same subject (Dan Stabbed At RAINN Event)so I read the first one and tap delete, enter, delete, enter till I reach a different subject and I know I'm not missing any thing. Some of you guys need to stop dwelling on old problems, bitching about it wont change the past. Dan I am sorry that people betrayed you but people are people and people will always be people this means don't be so sensitive to what they do. Its human to error they say and everyone does their fair share of it. So lets move on. Last i don't intend to leave but i do hope that you people will take the time to cut through the crap and put in just the facts to help cut down on the junk mail we all get i don't want to take 20 min. out of my day to delete e-mails. Sincerely, Joe ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V7 #240 ***********************************