From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V7 #236 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Thursday, August 22 2002 Volume 07 : Number 236 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: CPU [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: CPU ["Andrea E. Jackman" ] Re: CPU [NPR] [".:[Travis]:." ] CPU-Revisited [CtProse10@aol.com] Re: CPU [NPR] [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: CPU-Revisited [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: CPU-Revisited [KrodKnid@aol.com] RE: CPU-Revisited ["Pierce, Marshall" ] Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? [CountingSpiders@aol.com] Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: CPU-Revisited [Ed Hunsinger ] Re: CPU-Revisited [CtProse10@aol.com] Re: CPU [NPR] [CtProse10@aol.com] Re: Poe Psycho vegas bash [PURPLMOJO@aol.com] Re: CPU [PURPLMOJO@aol.com] Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? [PURPLMOJO@aol.com] Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? [PURPLMOJO@aol.com] Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? [PURPLMOJO@aol.com] Re: Poe Psycho vegas bash ["Dan Mohrbacher" ] Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? [CtProse10@aol.com] Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? [PURPLMOJO@aol.com] What is an AP, AP, Inc, DBR and all these other letters? [Dan98908@aol.co] Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? [CtProse10@aol.com] Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? ["sp00k@poe.org" I'm a common dumbed down lazy american am I? > > does writing aol, or lol make u lazy, and an idiot? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um, it's just that the actual CPU is a single (sometimes dual processor or more) large processor chip on the motherboard...it does not include RAM other than L1 cache (SRAM) and sometimes L2 cache (also SRAM). It does not include the BIOS, RAM, the motherboard chipset, the DMA controller, the IDE controllers, the floppy disk controller, the PCI/ISA/AGP slots or any cards that might be in them, any onboard modem/NIC/sound/video...it does not include the case and any hard drives, floppy drives, CD/DVD drives...nor the power supply, USB/firewire/serial/parallel ports. The CPU even runs at a different speed than all these other items, which use the front side bus/system clock for timing. To refer to the computer case and contents as the CPU is like referring to the entire human body as "the brain". It is not the same as using an acronym like AOL or LOL to call the case the CPU...that would be more like calling the entire internet and any type of network "AOL". I did not call you an idiot. I merely suggested that you were perhaps the victim of what is commonly called "the dumbing down of America". I really meant no offense to you personally. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 01:39:39 -0400 From: "Andrea E. Jackman" Subject: Re: CPU the whole world is an acronym . . . so far they haven't found a way to truncate that too . . . dwbh, no one is po'ed. cuz ur bze. wur all gltee. (extra points for that one . . .) ///Andrea littleREDelf - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 1:11 AM Subject: CPU I'm a common dumbed down lazy american am I? does writing aol, or lol make u lazy, and an idiot? Why do you refer to Random access memory as ram? Rambus? DDR, Double data rate MoBo, Motherboard sorry for saying that my cpu has been "attacked" by viruses. it would have been more prudent for me to say that my twin 40gig 7200rpm ata100hds set to a RAID0 Interface, was infected by a virus. oh gosh, sorry for using the terminology raid, raid can mean a lot of things, hows this: Redundant Array of Independent Disks Sorry if the use of the "slang" term cpu offends you. And sorry if my common american laziness offends you. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 23:43:45 -0600 (MDT) From: ".:[Travis]:." Subject: Re: CPU [NPR] On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 KrodKnid@aol.com wrote: [snippage] > power supply, USB/firewire/serial/parallel ports. The CPU even runs at a > different speed than all these other items, which use the front side > bus/system clock for timing. To refer to the computer case and contents as > the CPU is like referring to the entire human body as "the brain". It is not Ahhh clocking - what a silly antique way of thinking... Sorry, had to geek out some there too, I saw other people doin it first!!! Travis =-=[Travis Ogden]-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ICQ UIN: #30220771 "Courage is not defined by those who AIM ID: Gen2600 fought and did not fall, but by those Email: who fought, fell, and rose again." traviso@FreeBSDFoo.com Website: http://www.FreeBSDFoo.com/~traviso =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 01:52:09 EDT From: CtProse10@aol.com Subject: CPU-Revisited I no longer have any will to continue this conversation. using the term cpu referring to my case made me a victim. if i am a victim, who, oh who will come to my rescue. perhaps you, the knight in silicon armour will release my veil of ignorance, so I may understand my CPU to a better degree. I knew you would be there for me... Pasted From Message to Krod Knid is this some sort of sickly intelligence contest? who knows the different bus speeds of a CPU! the external clock cycle the internal clock cycle the l1 contacts [used in overclocking on athlon cpus... unlock the multiplier, hence, unlocking the cpu.] the l1 cache l2 cache unlocking a cpu? the micron die of the athlon processors. as i stated, I am well aware of the meaning of "CPU" and all other components you named. fact of the matter is, I and the rest of the techie world will refer to our CPUs in a manner of our chosing. if you have a problem with that, don't insult our intelligence because of it. would u like me to explain silicon imperfections and voltage settings for you? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:42:38 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: CPU [NPR] In a message dated 8/22/2002 1:40:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, traviso@Genocide2600.com writes: > Ahhh clocking - what a silly antique way of thinking... Sorry, had > to geek out some there too, I saw other people doin it first!!! > > Travis > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I certainly hope that wasn't supposed to be some sort of crafty put-down. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:59:02 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: CPU-Revisited In a message dated 8/22/2002 1:52:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, CtProse10@aol.com writes: > I no longer have any will to continue this conversation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You certainly have an odd way of going about "not continuing" this conversation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > using the term cpu referring to my case made me a victim. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Oh Gawd! Pu-leeeze! Not the old "poor me" gambit. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:06:20 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: CPU-Revisited In a message dated 8/22/2002 1:52:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, CtProse10@aol.com writes: > Pasted From Message to Krod Knid > > is this some sort of sickly intelligence contest? > who knows the different bus speeds of a CPU! > the external clock cycle > the internal clock cycle > the l1 contacts [used in overclocking on athlon cpus... unlock the > multiplier, hence, unlocking the cpu.] > the l1 cache > l2 cache > unlocking a cpu? > > the micron die of the athlon processors. > > as i stated, I am well aware of the meaning of "CPU" > and all other components you named. > > fact of the matter is, I and the rest of the techie world will refer to our > > CPUs in a manner of our chosing. > if you have a problem with that, don't insult our intelligence because of > it. > would u like me to explain silicon imperfections and voltage settings for > you? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since you found yourself clever enough (heh, heh) to show off for the list, I feel compelled to post my formerly private response: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hahahahaha...fortunately for the rest of us, you are not the only techies in the world. You know, I hope, that if you order a CPU from any computer parts supplier you will get a microprocessor only...not the case and the rest of the "computer". And don't bother touting your deep knowledge of such rudimentary and easily obtainable information as voltage settings and silicon imperfections. Of all the techies I have known, BTW, you are the ONLY one I have ever heard who refers to the CPU in this manner. Actually, I take that back...a girl I know in California who is a confessed computer illiterate is the first person I ever heard use the term CPU in such a way. She got it from the "techie" at Goodwill where she purchased a used computer. Just out of curiosity, what do you master technicians call a complete tower unit sans CPU? Maybe a "sorta CPU"? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:13:12 -0400 From: "Pierce, Marshall" Subject: RE: CPU-Revisited No, we call it broke box. - -----Original Message----- From: KrodKnid@aol.com [mailto:KrodKnid@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:06 AM To: CtProse10@aol.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: CPU-Revisited In a message dated 8/22/2002 1:52:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, CtProse10@aol.com writes: > Pasted From Message to Krod Knid > > is this some sort of sickly intelligence contest? > who knows the different bus speeds of a CPU! > the external clock cycle > the internal clock cycle > the l1 contacts [used in overclocking on athlon cpus... unlock the > multiplier, hence, unlocking the cpu.] > the l1 cache > l2 cache > unlocking a cpu? > > the micron die of the athlon processors. > > as i stated, I am well aware of the meaning of "CPU" > and all other components you named. > > fact of the matter is, I and the rest of the techie world will refer to our > > CPUs in a manner of our chosing. > if you have a problem with that, don't insult our intelligence because of > it. > would u like me to explain silicon imperfections and voltage settings for > you? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since you found yourself clever enough (heh, heh) to show off for the list, I feel compelled to post my formerly private response: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hahahahaha...fortunately for the rest of us, you are not the only techies in the world. You know, I hope, that if you order a CPU from any computer parts supplier you will get a microprocessor only...not the case and the rest of the "computer". And don't bother touting your deep knowledge of such rudimentary and easily obtainable information as voltage settings and silicon imperfections. Of all the techies I have known, BTW, you are the ONLY one I have ever heard who refers to the CPU in this manner. Actually, I take that back...a girl I know in California who is a confessed computer illiterate is the first person I ever heard use the term CPU in such a way. She got it from the "techie" at Goodwill where she purchased a used computer. Just out of curiosity, what do you master technicians call a complete tower unit sans CPU? Maybe a "sorta CPU"? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:33:48 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Onagh Levy" Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:11 PM Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? > Ah what the hell, I'll take the bait. Sometimes the worm on the hook is just too juicy to pass up: > > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:13:53 -0400 > From: "sp00k@poe.org" > Subject: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? > > <> > > Anybody have any other info on this continuing DRAMA ??? > > Yes, and let me tell you DRAMA is the perfect description. Especially when a perfect stranger begins dishing dirt on people who are no more than mere email addresses floating around in cyberspace. > > Who are the AP's? > > Myself and someone else - a well known AP who left the list in a huff. > > What is the REST of the story? > > It really isn't any of your business. Well of course it is, Dan stating that he was stabbed in the back by AP's certainly makes it a fair question as to what this "back stabbing" incident was all about. If he had said he was back stabbed by some Blink182 fans, I think I'd still want to know what was up since he mentioned it but didn't give any details, but if you are going to say that you were stabbed in the back by some Angry Psychos, you should give some information that doesn't leave the meaning to the imagination. >But suffice it to say that there was a cell phone involved, with Dan on the other end of the line. A total accident which I >didn't find out about until approximately 45 minutes after the concert and I was in my car driving home. That will teach me to >enter a crowd of people with a cell phone in my purse! Pesky re-dial - what's a girl to do? > > It's amazing what people will say when they are trying to make points and look important. Hell, all you gotta do to meet POE around this crowd is call Dan "a pussy" & "a drama queen" and they escort you like a princess backstage! > > I will say this, if the person I spoke with is a representation of the typical AP (the label "moocher" comes to mind), I have serious doubts about publically acknowledging that I am an AP. But hopefully this individual is an anomoly. Well is it a crowd or an individual? And I only emphasize DRAMA, as some people seem to think that I am the cause of drama on this list, I think the FACTS show that I was here in NY when this real life drama was played out. I'm just having a hard time picturing this, considering that this was a RAINN event, that this little soap opera is running in the background... very odd. > > Or is that an Angry Psychos INC secret? > > If it was a secret, I wouldn't be responding to you now would I? If you had not responded, it would still be a secret, but as it is, you have made it clear that you are doing me a big favor by sharing the information you have. The information you have provided still seems to be about less than half of the story, and raises even more questions, but, thanks. > > Besides, I'm not worried about pissing anyone off. All you have to do to impress this particular crowd of people is flash a gold card, a $20 here or there and they are your best friends - whether you know them or not. > > If you want to learn more, I'm sure Dan can fill in the blanks. I identified the voices on the line for him as they represented themselves to me, so he knows who said what. > > Are you happy now? Why should I be happy? It's a fucked up situation with the AP name on it, and I am amazed that the majority of the coverage of this RAINN event on this list has been about anything but RAINN or Poe... but I guess it is healthy, as how else would we know that the AP's have so many factions? The AP caste system... Why are you so hostile? Dan raised the issue with his inuendo, you have shed some light on the subject. > I am, I got to meet POE, heard some amazing acoustic stuff and feel really good about myself for donating $150 to RAINN. This will have to tide me over until POE finally gets her shit together and produces another album. And no not a compilation for some other artist. As you said that all you gotta do to meet Poe is call Dan a Pussy or a Drama Queen, I'm guessing you were in some other line to meet Poe? How many different lines of diversity were there? I'd need a Gold card to donate $150. sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://RocPic.Com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:15:41 -0600 (MDT) From: ".:[Travis]:." Subject: Re: CPU [NPR] On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 KrodKnid@aol.com wrote: > > Ahhh clocking - what a silly antique way of thinking... Sorry, had > > to geek out some there too, I saw other people doin it first!!! > > > > Travis > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I certainly hope that wasn't supposed to be some sort of crafty put-down. Not unless you yourself are a CPU :) Travis =-=[Travis Ogden]-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ICQ UIN: #30220771 "Courage is not defined by those who AIM ID: Gen2600 fought and did not fall, but by those Email: who fought, fell, and rose again." traviso@FreeBSDFoo.com Website: http://www.FreeBSDFoo.com/~traviso =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 11:07:02 -0400 From: CountingSpiders@aol.com Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? In a message dated Thu, 22 Aug 2002 9:33:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, usscvn65@frontiernet.net writes: << I'm just having a hard time picturing this, considering that this was a RAINN event, that this little soap opera is running in the background... very odd. >> Thing is, sadly, the RAINN banner doesn't make any difference most of the time. I attended the RAINN benefit show with Tori Amos back in 1997 -- and even I, who had VIP tickets -- noticed a boatful of drama present at the event. I used to say that Tori Amos fans were/are the most conniving, malicious, and faux people I knew (out of all the fanbases I've been surrounded with). It's pure craziness to me that little by little, that belief is being broken down by the one, the only, Angry Psychos... I've seen people do terrible stuff in the name of their favorite artist...apparently -- sadly, too -- Poe is no different. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 11:54:01 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:38 PM Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? > In a message dated Tue, 20 Aug 2002 7:13:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, usscvn65@frontiernet.net writes: > > > > > Anybody have any other info on this continuing DRAMA ??? > > > > Who are the AP's? What kind of knifes? I'd think it would take a fairly long sword. > > Was security involved? What is the REST of the story? Or > > is that an Angry Psychos INC secret? > > Probably the same knife thats been used to cut the angry psycho's out of anything offical or promotional. You remember street team, P-0-E.com etc, Sure, why shouldn't I remember? I'm the one who abosrobed the brunt of the hate mail when I made a point of saying http://poe.org was getting a RAW deal, I was perhaps the FIRST to say what a bunch of crap the street team was and got hate mail for that, and I am the one who Poe talks about not knowing how things work for saying the street team was a bunch of crap, when she made a RARE appearance on #poe primarily to tell me how wrong I was about the street team. Thats the same stuff that people like Dan and Birdblack use to say how wrong I am... go figure.... sp00k etc ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:03:39 -0500 From: "BirdBlack" Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? sp00kiepoo you are not holding up your end of the advertising deal! Be sure to mention http://bbs.poe.st/ as the seat of all evil at least once every other slander. Now dear we have to have a talk. You haven't quoted me out of context, lied about me, made fun of my work as a Peace Officer or anything lately! In fact,.. I don't even recall you wishing Dan dead lately! Now,.. are you going soft on us? This will never do! Don't make me take your Prozac away! Now get out there,.. and give it the old I know I can get out of this straightjacket try! And just to show you I am not totally without heart, I will let you know that you are appreciated. Before I me you, I had no frame of refference to understand the phrase, "Crazier than a son of a bitch". Ta. Oh,.. I and I think you are losing weight. No,... really. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sp00k@poe.org" To: ; Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:54 AM Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:38 PM > Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event? > > > > In a message dated Tue, 20 Aug 2002 7:13:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, usscvn65@frontiernet.net writes: > > > > > > > > Anybody have any other info on this continuing DRAMA ??? > > > > > > Who are the AP's? What kind of knifes? I'd think it would take a fairly long sword. > > > Was security involved? What is the REST of the story? Or > > > is that an Angry Psychos INC secret? > > > > Probably the same knife thats been used to cut the angry psycho's out of anything offical or promotional. You remember street > team, P-0-E.com etc, > > Sure, why shouldn't I remember? I'm the one who abosrobed the brunt of the hate mail when I made a point of saying > http://poe.org was getting a RAW deal, I was perhaps the FIRST to say what a bunch of crap the street team was and got hate mail > for that, and I am the one who Poe talks about not knowing how things work for saying the street team was a bunch of crap, when she > made a RARE appearance on #poe primarily to tell me how wrong I was about the street team. > > Thats the same stuff that people like Dan and Birdblack use to say how wrong I am... go figure.... > > sp00k etc ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:15:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: Re: CPU-Revisited Ok, I don't want to take sides or anything, but just to give the input. Technically speaking the technical definition of cpu wasused incorrectly. However, I and several people in the tech support area and in personal circles that I know use the term CPU to refer to a system in everyday usage. Just some food for thought. Calling it a computer? Isn't the CPU the "thing that computes" hence making it the "computer" and not including input/output devices? com7put7er Pronunciation Key (km-pytr) n. A device that computes, especially a programmable electronic machine that performs high-speed mathematical or logical operations or that assembles, stores, correlates, or otherwise processes information. One who computes. Source: The American Heritage. Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Computer System. Ed edward@hunsinger.org My kmpytr is broke Quoting KrodKnid@aol.com: > Hahahahaha...fortunately for the rest of us, you are not the only > techies in > the world. You know, I hope, that if you order a CPU from any computer > parts > supplier you will get a microprocessor only...not the case and the rest > of > the "computer". And don't bother touting your deep knowledge of such > rudimentary and easily obtainable information as voltage settings and > silicon > imperfections. Of all the techies I have known, BTW, you are the ONLY > one I > have ever heard who refers to the CPU in this manner. Actually, I take > that > back...a girl I know in California who is a confessed computer > illiterate is > the first person I ever heard use the term CPU in such a way. She got it > from > the "techie" at Goodwill where she purchased a used computer. Just out > of > curiosity, what do you master technicians call a complete tower unit > sans > CPU? Maybe a "sorta CPU"? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:19:23 EDT From: CtProse10@aol.com Subject: Re: CPU-Revisited don't u ever shut up? for christ sakes man, i build computers, i know what the fuck the components are called. again, i will refer to my CPU as i wish, you got a problem with that, too bad. now piss off. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:20:21 EDT From: CtProse10@aol.com Subject: Re: CPU [NPR] 
my brother refers to me as a processor...

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:01:38 -0400
From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com
Subject: Re: Poe Psycho vegas bash

Thanks Dan for sharing and answering.  I'll say you have more tolerence than I. I usually won't give people more than one chance to screw me over unless they are a friend and then I'll give them a second chance.

As for Vegas I'm going there for a vacatin no matter what so hopefully there will be some sort of event Poe or no poe and some psycho's ;-). 
till then be well and safe.
Lord Lonnie

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:07:00 -0400
From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com
Subject: Re: CPU

So is this whats considered a intellectual cock waveing contest? ::laughs::
Bet it just drives some crazy when part is referred to as thingamajigger or doohicky >;-)

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:21:12 -0400
From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event?

   Well is it a crowd or an individual?  And I only emphasize DRAMA, as some people seem to think that I am the cause of drama on
this list, I think the FACTS show that I was here in NY when this real life drama was played out.<<<<
<<<<<<<<<<<
Well I enjoy the drama you cause spook. It certainly beats the current CPU drama ::laughs:: The drama threads are part of what keeps the list going. I mean without it we get those days where people are emailing the list asking if it's broke,because they havn't gotten atleast 20 peices of email from the list..Damned if you do,damned if you don't..
~~~
As you said that all you gotta do to meet Poe is call Dan a Pussy or a Drama Queen,  I'm guessing you were in some other line to
meet Poe?  How many different lines of diversity were there?    I'd need a Gold card to donate $150.

sp00k   etc   ...<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Hey I have a platinum card what benefits does that get me :-)
Lord Lonnie

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:30:10 -0400
From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event?

In a message dated Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:07:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, CountingSpiders writes:

> Thing is, sadly, the RAINN banner doesn't make any difference most of the time. I attended the RAINN benefit show with Tori Amos back in 1997 -- and even I, who had VIP tickets -- noticed a boatful of drama present at the event.
> I used to say that Tori Amos fans were/are the most conniving, malicious, and faux people I knew (out of all the fanbases I've been surrounded with). It's pure craziness to me that little by little, that belief is being broken down by the one, the only, Angry Psychos...
> I've seen people do terrible stuff in the name of their favorite artist...apparently -- sadly, too -- Poe is no 
> different.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
Psst I bet these people doing the backstabbing and conniving are also Tori fans I've seen posts before of Angry Psycho's talking about how they read on a tori list or posted info about Tori among other artists. Perhaps it's a conspiracy and there is an underground coup brewing. Malicious Fanatic Tori fans fearing the rise and popularity of Poe due to the fanaticism of The Angry Psycho's.. So they have infiltrated our Poe camp and are working to under mine it. 

Please bring your own torches these will not be provided for you. If the angry mob must split up to catch stray Tori fans. Please return to Angry Mob home base with your captures. Once all the Angry mob has returned we will then commence with the stoning,hanging,burning of those blasphemous tori fans 
Muhahahahha
muhahahha, muhahahahaha
Dr. Evil Bastard 
LoL

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:43:52 -0400
From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event?

In a message dated Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:54:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, usscvn65@frontiernet.net writes:

>    Sure, why shouldn't I remember?  I'm the one who abosrobed the brunt of the hate mail when I made a point of saying
> http://poe.org  was getting a RAW deal,  I was perhaps the FIRST to say what a bunch of crap the street team was and got hate mail
> for that, and I am the one who Poe talks about not knowing how things work for saying the street team was a bunch of crap, when she
> made a RARE appearance on #poe primarily to tell me how wrong I was about the street team.
> 
> Thats the same stuff that people like Dan and Birdblack use 
> to say how wrong I am...   go figure....
> 
> sp00k   etc   ...

Yes I know and I'm the one that also backed you up on this incase you never read that email and done so many other times in the past. I've done same for Dan and others. I'm a hardline supporter of the Angry Psycho's and this list. When you say Angry Psycho's or Angry Psycho's INC. I think this list.. Not P-0-E not Data Backroad, Not a select group of elite people. I think everyone even the Lurkers out there on this list.

As I've said in past Spook keep on preaching whether your approach at times lacks tact or whether it's just plain facts I always respect someone thats willing to rock the boat and challenge the majority 
"When you find yourself on the side of the Majority it is time to stop and ponder"-Mark Twain
::hand sign::~Z~ Zoltan!
The Blue Bastard

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:42:03 +0000
From: "Dan Mohrbacher" 
Subject: Re: Poe Psycho vegas bash

I think we will have a fair group there regardless of a Poe appearance.  
Andrea, Jess, Christa, and a number of others have said we should go for it 
and Jason from Think of England said they would love to be there as well.  I 
have several alternative groups we may be able to book as headliners.  It 
looks like it will still be a RAINN benefit.

I think in the year that Poe has left us we have become close as a group, 
the bickering not withstanding.  There will always be a few that like to 
cause trouble, but I doubt they will want to come anyway, so we should have 
a great time.

I will wait till 12/15 to write Poe off as the headliner, but it sounds like 
she will be the one missing out if she doesn't come  :)  By then one would 
hope she has some kind of organization put together that we can approach.

Look forward to finally being able to meet you!  If you see Jez, have her 
give us a shout too...she has been missed!




>From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com
>To: angry-psychos@smoe.org
>Subject: Re: Poe Psycho vegas bash
>Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:01:38 -0400
>
>
>Thanks Dan for sharing and answering.  I'll say you have more tolerence 
>than I. I usually won't give people more than one chance to screw me over 
>unless they are a friend and then I'll give them a second chance.
>
>As for Vegas I'm going there for a vacatin no matter what so hopefully 
>there will be some sort of event Poe or no poe and some psycho's ;-).
>till then be well and safe.
>Lord Lonnie




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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:04:28 EDT
From: CtProse10@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event?


well said, i am with you

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:07:56 -0400
From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event?

In a message dated Thu, 22 Aug 2002 2:04:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, CtProse10 writes:

> 
well said, i am with you

Thanks good to know You and your CPU are with me ::Laughs and ducks flying objects::

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:11:10 EDT
From: Dan98908@aol.com
Subject: What is an AP, AP, Inc, DBR and all these other letters?

Hello PURPLMOJO@aol.com,

In reference to your comment:

h I'm a hardline supporter of the Angry Psycho's and this
h list. When you say Angry Psycho's or Angry Psycho's
h INC. I think this list.. Not P-0-E not Data Backroad, Not
h a select group of elite people. I think everyone even the
h Lurkers out there on this list.

You are SOOO correct!  Kind of....

Just for the record ... The Angry Psychos are defined by being on the list,
if you are on the list you are an Angry Psycho, if you are not you are not
(personally I would like to see the definition expanded, but that is how it
is for now ....   The Angry Psycho's have a number of tools to use.  poe.org,
#poe and  dbr among them.  When you sign up for the list you have access to
DBR, when you sign up for DBR you are signing up for the list....

These "factions" I keep hearing about exist only in the minds of a few
elitists.  With few exceptions if you see someone on #poe, they are an AP, if
you see someone on DBR they are an AP.

Angry Psychos, Inc is a piece of paper on file in a State office back in
Delaware.  It is not part of the CIA, the Gestapo or any other covert agency
that I am aware of, and I set it up for Jarrod and a group of APs who had the
vision to organize and did so after discussion of BOTH the AP list and #poe.
As stated in the list, if any of you want to make a motion to disband the
corporation at ANY time, make the motion and it will be voted on!

It is nothing to be afraid of, it has no practical impact on ANYONE, except
that it will allow Poe's new distributor to contract with us to help with Poe
promotions and allow us to contract for events as a group.  That could not be
done without SOME form of organization.

In short view DBR as a benefit of being an Angry Psycho, much the same way
that using #poe is a benefit.  Both  are tools set up BY APs FOR APs. Nobody
has to go in either one, but if you do your Psycho experience will be
enhanced....if you don't  then you don't.

I heard a criticism that things get posted on DBR that is not on the list...
that may be!  We try very hard to make sure that anything important  goes to
the list.  Keep in mind, the SAME is true on poe.org, #poe, or any of the
shelle productions, not EVERYTHING said in ANY of those places makes it to
the list...much like in life...you had to be there!

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:12:37 EDT
From: CtProse10@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event?

u have a sense of humour, i respect that.
to bad you said cpu  
now u must die
u dumbed down american!!!

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:23:10 -0400
From: "sp00k@poe.org" 
Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event?

- ----- Original Message -----
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Dan stabbed at RAINN event?


>
>    Well is it a crowd or an individual?  And I only emphasize DRAMA, as some people seem to think that I am the cause of drama on
> this list, I think the FACTS show that I was here in NY when this real life drama was played out.<<<<
> <<<<<<<<<<<
> Well I enjoy the drama you cause spook. It certainly beats the current CPU drama ::laughs:: The drama threads are part of what
keeps the list going. I mean without it we get those days where people are emailing the list asking if it's broke,because they
havn't gotten atleast 20 peices of email from the list..Damned if you do,damned if you don't..

    Right!!!  And all was going pretty well until those creeps at the DBR started to practice censoship on the Jesus thread, after
all of the BITCHING and MOANING they had done about how horrible Angie is for censoring P=O=E.Com    I mean it was nothing but a
constant flow of negative shit about how bad Angie was, and then they turned around and did the same thing all over the DBR...  Oh
they don't mind POINTING the finger, no not the DBR crew, but if you point he finger at THEM, then it's a different story.

    We don't need to hear from the censors, it's pretty simple.  You got NPR post it, You got Poe, post it, expect no thanks DAN and
you won't be dissapointed.

sp00k   etc   ...


> ~~~
> As you said that all you gotta do to meet Poe is call Dan a Pussy or a Drama Queen,  I'm guessing you were in some other line to
> meet Poe?  How many different lines of diversity were there?    I'd need a Gold card to donate $150.
>
> sp00k   etc   ...<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> Hey I have a platinum card what benefits does that get me :-)
> Lord Lonnie

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:34:10 -0400
From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com
Subject: Re: What is an AP, AP, Inc, DBR and all these other letters?

In a message dated Thu, 22 Aug 2002  3:11:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Dan98908 writes:

> These "factions" I keep hearing about exist only in the minds of a few elitists.  With few exceptions if you see someone on #poe, they are an AP, if you see someone on DBR they are 
> an AP.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<
I agree I don't personally see any factions if AP's choose to talk among themselves on the DBA,P-0-E or even Yahoo groups(I know for awhile that was popular)thats their perrogative. They all are still on the AP list and are AP's they just choose to utilize another forum as well. Which for NPR it's a good thing otherwise people would be whining all the time like crazy about junk mail clogging their email box.
 
 I would see it as a problem if they started utilizing these other forums to organize AP events,Poe events or not sharing Poe info with the list. Preferably if there is info or an event happening they will share this by posting the info to the list and not the annoying link to a message board. I hate it when protools does that. 

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:47:06 -0400
From: "sp00k@poe.org" 
Subject: Re: What is an AP, AP, Inc, DBR and all these other letters?

- ----- Original Message -----
From: 
To: ; 
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 3:11 PM
Subject: What is an AP, AP, Inc, DBR and all these other letters?


>
> Hello PURPLMOJO@aol.com,
>
> In reference to your comment:
>
> h I'm a hardline supporter of the Angry Psycho's and this
> h list. When you say Angry Psycho's or Angry Psycho's
> h INC. I think this list.. Not P-0-E not Data Backroad, Not
> h a select group of elite people. I think everyone even the
> h Lurkers out there on this list.
>
> You are SOOO correct!  Kind of....
>
> Just for the record ... The Angry Psychos are defined by being on the list,
> if you are on the list you are an Angry Psycho, if you are not you are not

Says who?


> (personally I would like to see the definition expanded, but that is how it
> is for now ....   The Angry Psycho's have a number of tools to use.  poe.org,
> #poe and  dbr among them.  When you sign up for the list you have access to
> DBR, when you sign up for DBR you are signing up for the list....


I think anybody with a web browser can surf to the DBR,  are you saying that anybody that signs up for a membership on the DBR
automaticly signs up for the e-mail list?



>
> These "factions" I keep hearing about exist only in the minds of a few
> elitists.

    I am so sick and tired of you using the "elitist" card get the fuck off of it, you are  the one who said that if everybody
didn't play nice with you, that you would run away with your Poe information, how "elitist" is that?


 With few exceptions if you see someone on #poe, they are an AP, if
> you see someone on DBR they are an AP.
>
> Angry Psychos, Inc is a piece of paper on file in a State office back in
> Delaware.  It is not part of the CIA, the Gestapo or any other covert agency
> that I am aware of, and I set it up for Jarrod and a group of APs who had the
> vision to organize and did so after discussion of BOTH the AP list and #poe.

    Thats right you had the discussion on the LIST where it belongs, not BURIED on some message board.


> As stated in the list, if any of you want to make a motion to disband the
> corporation at ANY time, make the motion and it will be voted on!
>
> It is nothing to be afraid of, it has no practical impact on ANYONE, except
> that it will allow Poe's new distributor to contract with us to help with Poe
> promotions and allow us to contract for events as a group.  That could not be
> done without SOME form of organization.
>
> In short view DBR as a benefit of being an Angry Psycho, much the same way
> that using #poe is a benefit.  Both  are tools set up BY APs FOR APs. Nobody
> has to go in either one, but if you do your Psycho experience will be
> enhanced....if you don't  then you don't.
>
> I heard a criticism that things get posted on DBR that is not on the list...
> that may be!  We try very hard to make sure that anything important  goes to
> the list.

    Here WE go again, what is this "WE" shit?  Who is this "WE" that is controlling access to information?  The main form of
communications for the Angry Psychos is the e-mail list.


 Keep in mind, the SAME is true on poe.org, #poe, or any of the
> shelle productions, not EVERYTHING said in ANY of those places makes it to
> the list...much like in life...you had to be there!

    What a lame comparison, and justification for what is simply your efforts to drive traffic to the DBR.  The http://poe.org chat
is meant to be a place for the CASUAL exchange of information.  The Angry Psychos e-mail list is the place for posting IMPORTANT Poe
information for the RECORD.

    The DBR is really a major distraction, but perhaps it would not be if you would just shut up and your cast of clowns would stop
working on their version of an online utopia for a group that is called the Angry Psychos.  Get real will ya?

sp00k   etc   ...

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