From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V7 #226 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Tuesday, August 13 2002 Volume 07 : Number 226 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Center of Sun Lyrics / DBR BULLSHIT ["sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Center of Sun Lyrics / DBR BULLSHIT A request was made for the lyrics to "Center of the Sun" Instead of lyrics, we get a link to the DBR Ask about Poe's new music, and what do you get? A misformed link to the DBR if you want to hear it. Having a charity event that includes Poe? Even charity is fair game, MILK that charity for all it's worth, and make people go to the DBR for informaiton. If people ask a question on the Angry Psychos e-mail list, it would be nice if people would stop using it for a stepping stone to force people to visit the DBR for the answer. Here are the requested lyrics, and you wont have to repair some sloppy ass copy and paste URL to the DBR to read them. Conjure One (featuring Poe) - Center of the Sun (I hear) Young girl in the market Gives it to the men When the men leave Her eyes are red When her eyes are closed again she sees the dark market ... And she sings "They say the most horrible things" But I hear violins When I close my eyes I am at the center of the sun And I cannot be hurt By anything this wicked world has done Young boy in the market Follows all the men When the men leave He's out of his head When his eyes are closed again he sees the dark market... And he sings "They break the most beautiful things" But I hear violins When I close my eyes I am at the center of the sun And I cannot be hurt By anything this wicked world has done I look into your eyes And I am at the center of the sun And I cannot be hurt By anything this wicked world has done (Center of the sun) Young boy in the market Sees the girl alone And asks her "Have you lost you way home?" She sings "You say the most beautiful things" Just like my violins I look into your eyes I am at the center of the sun And I cannot be hurt By anything this wicked world has done When I close my eyes I am at the center of the sun And I cannot be hurt By anything this wicked world has done ('Cause I hear violins) (I hear violins) (Center of the sun) I hear violins sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://DigitalSter.Com ================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 06:53:38 -0400 From: "Andrea E. Jackman" Subject: Re: Center of Sun Lyrics / DBR BULLSHIT yeah . . . it's awful how long the links are for the forum topics. mailing lists don't allow for a lot of formatting really, and i apologized twice for it, but no one is being forced to visit. and i won't apologize for the requested content being there, i didn't post it. it's not entirely my fault that we have new songs and content. i'll try to stay behind the ball. as for the RAINN event, the details are also at p-o-e where it was not only milked, it was bled. still, all these tiresome sloppy ass links, are better than no info at all . . . next time, i'll just let you guess, and if you don't want to visit there, it's no skin off my nose. you just tell me and the rest of us the wicked little way you see it, how corrupt and awful a conspiracy it all is, and i'll hope you will understand that no one force, one BBS, one site, one list, one chat, is trying to get the better part over anything or anyone else. besides, people cross post the same stuff at p-o-e, i'll link to both next time so you'll have 2 fucked up choices to deal with instead of having to actually surf the topics. there are 363 other people posting the misinformation that we all so desperately clamoring for. and they are all ANGRY PSYCHOS. DBR BULLSHIT = AP BULLSHIT. deal. ///Andrea littleREDelf - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sp00k@poe.org" To: "angry psychos" Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:09 AM Subject: Center of Sun Lyrics / DBR BULLSHIT A request was made for the lyrics to "Center of the Sun" Instead of lyrics, we get a link to the DBR Ask about Poe's new music, and what do you get? A misformed link to the DBR if you want to hear it. Having a charity event that includes Poe? Even charity is fair game, MILK that charity for all it's worth, and make people go to the DBR for informaiton. If people ask a question on the Angry Psychos e-mail list, it would be nice if people would stop using it for a stepping stone to force people to visit the DBR for the answer. Here are the requested lyrics, and you wont have to repair some sloppy ass copy and paste URL to the DBR to read them. Conjure One (featuring Poe) - Center of the Sun (I hear) Young girl in the market Gives it to the men When the men leave Her eyes are red When her eyes are closed again she sees the dark market ... And she sings "They say the most horrible things" But I hear violins When I close my eyes I am at the center of the sun And I cannot be hurt By anything this wicked world has done Young boy in the market Follows all the men When the men leave He's out of his head When his eyes are closed again he sees the dark market... And he sings "They break the most beautiful things" But I hear violins When I close my eyes I am at the center of the sun And I cannot be hurt By anything this wicked world has done I look into your eyes And I am at the center of the sun And I cannot be hurt By anything this wicked world has done (Center of the sun) Young boy in the market Sees the girl alone And asks her "Have you lost you way home?" She sings "You say the most beautiful things" Just like my violins I look into your eyes I am at the center of the sun And I cannot be hurt By anything this wicked world has done When I close my eyes I am at the center of the sun And I cannot be hurt By anything this wicked world has done ('Cause I hear violins) (I hear violins) (Center of the sun) I hear violins sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://DigitalSter.Com ================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:51:19 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: Center of Sun Lyrics / DBR BULLSHIT You have Poe information, post it to the list. Instead we get links that don't work, when it would be just as easy to actualy paste the information into a message. But no, we must clutter up the list with links to information so that people will go through the trouble of mining the DBR for information. Now everybody gets to have a dozen e-mails with broken links, apologies for the broken links, all in an effort to get people to visit the DBR. If you have some Poe info, spill it, and stop manipulating people and cluttering up the list. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea E. Jackman" To: "sp00k@poe.org" Cc: "ANGRY PSYCHOS" Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:53 AM Subject: Re: Center of Sun Lyrics / DBR BULLSHIT > > yeah . . . > it's awful how long the links are for the forum topics. > mailing lists don't allow for a lot of formatting really, > and i apologized twice for it, > but no one is being forced to visit. > > and i won't apologize for the requested content being there, > i didn't post it. > it's not entirely my fault that we have new songs and content. > i'll try to stay behind the ball. > > as for the RAINN event, > the details are also at p-o-e > where it was not only milked, > it was bled. > > still, all these tiresome sloppy ass links, > are better than no info at all . . . > > next time, > i'll just let you guess, > and if you don't want to visit there, > it's no skin off my nose. > > you just tell me and the rest of us the wicked little way you see it, > how corrupt and awful a conspiracy it all is, > and i'll hope you will understand that > no one force, one BBS, one site, one list, one chat, > is trying to get the better part over anything or anyone else. > > besides, people cross post the same stuff at p-o-e, > i'll link to both next time so you'll have 2 fucked up choices to deal with > instead of having to actually surf the topics. > > there are 363 other people posting the misinformation > that we all so desperately clamoring for. > and they are all ANGRY PSYCHOS. > DBR BULLSHIT = AP BULLSHIT. > > > deal. > > > ///Andrea > littleREDelf > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sp00k@poe.org" > To: "angry psychos" > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:09 AM > Subject: Center of Sun Lyrics / DBR BULLSHIT > > > > A request was made for the lyrics to "Center of the Sun" Instead of lyrics, > we get a link to the DBR > > Ask about Poe's new music, and what do you get? A misformed link to the DBR > if you want to hear it. > > Having a charity event that includes Poe? Even charity is fair game, MILK > that charity for all it's worth, and make people go to > the DBR for informaiton. > > If people ask a question on the Angry Psychos e-mail list, it would be nice > if people would stop using it for > a stepping stone to force people to visit the DBR for the answer. > > Here are the requested lyrics, and you wont have to repair some sloppy ass > copy and paste URL to the DBR to read them. > > Conjure One (featuring Poe) - Center of the Sun > > (I hear) > > Young girl in the market > Gives it to the men > When the men leave > Her eyes are red > When her eyes are closed again she sees the dark market ... > > And she sings > "They say the most horrible things" > But I hear violins > > When I close my eyes > I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > Young boy in the market > Follows all the men > When the men leave > He's out of his head > When his eyes are closed again he sees the dark market... > > And he sings > "They break the most beautiful things" > But I hear violins > > When I close my eyes > I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > I look into your eyes > And I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > (Center of the sun) > > Young boy in the market > Sees the girl alone > And asks her > "Have you lost you way home?" > > She sings > "You say the most beautiful things" > Just like my violins > > I look into your eyes > I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > When I close my eyes > I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > ('Cause I hear violins) > (I hear violins) > (Center of the sun) > > I hear violins > > sp00k etc ... > Http://Poe.Org > Http://DigitalSter.Com > ================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:41:07 EDT From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Re: Center of Sun Lyrics...Center of Sun mp3 Those lyrics are beautiful...I'm on AOL and I was wondering if there's anyone that could possibly send me the mp3 (or even through AIM--Athena Eriu)? I'm going to be going back to school soon, and when I'm there I hardly have time for this list, let alone joining the BBS just to download the songs and then trying to find time for *that* one...I don't like joining things and then neglecting them. Thank you if anyone can help me, Lindsay ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ http://etherealreality.org "With you there's no easy answer--it's true--you change the equation I add up to. And all of the things that I thought I knew--you turn it around...I'm amazed...When push comes to shove what I'd give to you--everything...I'm amazed..." - --POE, Amazed "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:44:25 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: NPR: Waste of bandwidth debate Hello usscvn65@frontiernet.net, In reference to your comment: h But no, we must clutter up the list with links to h information so that people will go through the trouble of h mining the DBR for information. Now everybody gets to h have a dozen e-mails with broken links, apologies for h the broken links, all in an effort to get people to visit the h DBR. Sp00k is partialy right, we DO get too much clutter in our Email, we have had this discussion a number of times, and I have no doubt that this, like the others, will generate a couple hundred responses about waste of bandwidth. Hyperlinks were invented for the express purpose of avoiding unnecessary clutter. This email, and Sp00k's, and Andrea's will EACH go to more then 700 email boxes, some several times due to duplicate entries in the AP list. Eash of the hundreds of responses to follow will do the same... No matter how short or long the message it adds up to a LOT of bandwidth use. In addition this information has already been recorded on the list, on DBR, on P-O-E, lots and lots of duplication. I support the use of hyperlinks regardless of where they take you! As you will recall Sp00k made effective use of hyperlinks to take you to his site to keep you all up to date on my old "law suit"....he made effective use of hyperlinks to create fake news sites and this was good! Those interested could click the link and see, those not interested did not have to wade thru the muck to see if there was anything of value. Many of us use hyperlinks to direct attention to items on sale at Ebay or news stories related to Poe or an artist we enjoy. Not only does it preserve bandwidth, but any potential copyright issues are avoided by using hyperlinks to the story itself. This is not about DBR, this is about using the tools available on the Net effectivly. Hyperlinks are here to stay and a GREAT tool. As for the inevitable debate to follow I suggest that we follow Sp00k's advice from the last war and take it to #poe and discuss it there. I personally would prefer this NOT to degenerate into another 300 message flame war when it can be just as effectivly handled on #poe, the official Poe chat channel. That way nobody can say we are trying to control it on DBR and the hundreds of us not interested in this debate will not have to wear out our delete keys and recycle folders. What do you say Sp00k, Andrea, and any one else getting ready to engage...Sp00k maybe you could set a time and date convienient to you and we can all be mature enough to discuss it and work out a solution ....hyperlink vs full text for duplicative information... but please let's not do ANOTHER war on the list, I don't think ANYBODY wants that! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:09:19 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: Center of Sun mp3 Lyrics etc ... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Center of Sun Lyrics...Center of Sun mp3 Those lyrics are beautiful. I'm glad you were able to enjoy them by simply reading your Poe related e-mail. I hardly have time for this list, let alone joining the BBS just to download the songs Measured in Internet years, in the good ole days, you might be able to simply click a link via an e-mail, or via http://poe.org and get a NEW Poe .mp3 nothing to sign up for, simple. It sucks being milked by other supposed Poe fans don't it? I do not currently have friendly space online to store mp3's or I would post it, that and the fact that maybe I'd get threatend with a law suit. sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://DigitalSter.Com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:19:20 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: Center of Sun mp3 Lyrics etc ... Hello usscvn65@frontiernet.net, In reference to your comment: h Measured in Internet years, in the good ole days, you h might be able to simply click a link via an e-mail, or via h http://poe.org and get a NEW Poe .mp3 nothing to h sign up for, simple. It sucks being milked by other h supposed Poe fans don't it? I do not currently have h friendly space online to store mp3's or I would post it, h that and the fact that maybe I'd get threatend with a h law suit. Actually, you still can via links on www.poe.org or via www.angry-psychos.com, check it out! (See, no hyperlink to keep the peace!) And the space has already been provided thanks to Jarrod and all the APs! For now I have already emailed LottePOTO the song. If he wants Make A Wish, the second Poe song I will send it to him too. APs take care of each other, not fight. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:00:17 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: ISO Center of Sun mp3 Lyrics etc ... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Center of Sun mp3 Lyrics etc ... > Actually, you still can via links on www.poe.org or via > www.angry-psychos.com, check it out! (See, no hyperlink to keep the peace!) > And the space has already been provided thanks to Jarrod and all the APs! > > For now I have already emailed LottePOTO the song. If he wants Make A Wish, > the second Poe song I will send it to him too. APs take care of each other, > not fight. > OK, I spent as much time as I cared to at http://poe.org and found no information relating to the two Poe .mp3's in question. As I said, in the good ole days, there was a link in plain site, for .mp3's . Why are you just mailing out 1 copy to 1 AP ? This is a Poe e-mail list, people are here to get a Poe fix, you got some Poe .mp3s that you can make available to the AP's why not simply do so? Why make it with strings attahced? Make the music available, and you might cause a shift in topics on this list. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:21:49 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: NPR: more bandwidth waste - maybe it can end now? Naaa... Look, this is getting silly again, I withdraw from the conversation with you. You made a valid point..too much duplication, wasted emails and you don't like hyperlinks. Fine...I heard you. I agree with you about duplication, I agree with you about wasted emails ( which these, that you and I are posting, are) and I disagree with you about hyperlinks being evil or a plot of some kind, unless you are the one posting them. Hey...two out of three ain't bad! Everyone on this list is an Angry Psycho by definition, as Angry Psychos we have tools we all can use. We have #poe as the official chat,we have poe.org and angry-psychos.com as our websites(which includes DBR as in integral part of angry-psychos.com and poe.st, we have Shell's discography, we have (had and will have again) Ed's navelsex. I am sorry you had trouble finding the songs on the AP sites, if you like I will send them to you directly as well. MOST of the Angry Psychos that want to have been able to find them all by themselves, those that have not... ALL those that have not,.. Including my offer now to you, we have sent direct email. I do not know how to do a file attach over a mailing list, if you will explain that to me I will be happy to post the mp3s to the whole list. The ONLY way I know how to do that is with a hyperlink, and we have done that! (And you are mad about it!) Bottom line, if you can't find the songs on AP sites, let me know and I will mail them to you, same goes for ANYONE else that can't find them. I am sorry we disagree about hyperlinks, can't we just agree to disagree or debate it on #poe? Do we HAVE to do this here AGAIN!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:30:51 -0500 From: "BirdBlack" Subject: Re: ISO Center of Sun mp3 Lyrics etc ... sp00kiedoo! Where are you! I have missed you Bro! Welcome back! Can you trash me next please? PLEASE? Wait,.. wait...... we can do it on a live chat before a studio audience,... on MSN! Woohoo! Happy days are here again! My sp00kie baby is back! Now sp00kie baby, it's time for you to take your medicated milk and do your part to promote the DBR. You see,... when you blow a gasket,.. and I ridicule you,.. people come to the board and tell me how clever and delightful I am. And we GROW! So,.. toss back your best lines. Tell me how you wish me dead,.. or ridicule my past. Wait,.. you've done that. Hmmm. You could quote me out of context and defame me! Oh wait,.. you did that on your last jaunt through "I ran out of Prozac" land. Well,.. I'm sure you'll think of something. So glad you are back sp00kie doo. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sp00k@poe.org" To: ; ; Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:00 AM Subject: Re: ISO Center of Sun mp3 Lyrics etc ... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > Subject: Re: Center of Sun mp3 Lyrics etc ... > > > > Actually, you still can via links on www.poe.org or via > > www.angry-psychos.com, check it out! (See, no hyperlink to keep the peace!) > > And the space has already been provided thanks to Jarrod and all the APs! > > > > For now I have already emailed LottePOTO the song. If he wants Make A Wish, > > the second Poe song I will send it to him too. APs take care of each other, > > not fight. > > > > > OK, I spent as much time as I cared to at http://poe.org and found no information relating to the two Poe .mp3's in question. > > As I said, in the good ole days, there was a link in plain site, for .mp3's . > > Why are you just mailing out 1 copy to 1 AP ? This is a Poe e-mail list, people are here to get a Poe fix, you got some Poe .mp3s > that you can make available to the AP's why not simply do so? Why make it with strings attahced? Make the music available, and you > might cause a shift in topics on this list. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:54:12 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Poe's RAINN performance will be videotaped! For those of you under 21 and those not able to make tonight's historic (I think this is an appropriate use of the word....Poe and Cameron together again!) event... RAINN is taping the show for their archives. I just talked to one of the organizers and she will be asking Poe if they can get a copy to us. The suggestion that I made is that we offer it for sale at BOTH the AP Store and the Poe Store with proceeds from the sale going to RAINN. So it is up to Poe, I hope she will say yes! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:30:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: Re: Poe's RAINN performance will be videotaped! good stuff dan! ******************************************************************* JK/// Jarrod Kniff Cyberfan Corporation jarrod@cyberfan.com ******************************************************************* http://www.poe.org http://www.shakedown.st ******************************************************************* On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 Dan98908@aol.com wrote: > > For those of you under 21 and those not able to make tonight's historic (I > think this is an appropriate use of the word....Poe and Cameron together > again!) event... RAINN is taping the show for their archives. > > I just talked to one of the organizers and she will be asking Poe if they can > get a copy to us. The suggestion that I made is that we offer it for sale at > BOTH the AP Store and the Poe Store with proceeds from the sale going to > RAINN. > > So it is up to Poe, I hope she will say yes! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:51:14 -0400 From: "Andrea E. Jackman" Subject: Re: more bandwidth waste - maybe it can end now? Naaa... i spend a good part of my day and nights direct transferring the new songs and other POE songs to a number of APs, through AIM, MSN and email. and other resources. i'm my own fucking NAPSTER over here. and i don't require them to register with me. or download a program. how less complicated or less affiliated can it get? we just happen to have space for the DL on the DBR, where by the way you DO NOT have to register, any knowledgeable user can just surf on in as a guest, right click on the hyperlilnk and SAVE AS to their desktop (for WINDOWS users, obviously) and god knows i would post it here on the AP list but it doesn't allow for attachments. ///Andrea littleREDelf - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: NPR: more bandwidth waste - maybe it can end now? Naaa... Look, this is getting silly again, I withdraw from the conversation with you. You made a valid point..too much duplication, wasted emails and you don't like hyperlinks. Fine...I heard you. I agree with you about duplication, I agree with you about wasted emails ( which these, that you and I are posting, are) and I disagree with you about hyperlinks being evil or a plot of some kind, unless you are the one posting them. Hey...two out of three ain't bad! Everyone on this list is an Angry Psycho by definition, as Angry Psychos we have tools we all can use. We have #poe as the official chat,we have poe.org and angry-psychos.com as our websites(which includes DBR as in integral part of angry-psychos.com and poe.st, we have Shell's discography, we have (had and will have again) Ed's navelsex. I am sorry you had trouble finding the songs on the AP sites, if you like I will send them to you directly as well. MOST of the Angry Psychos that want to have been able to find them all by themselves, those that have not... ALL those that have not,.. Including my offer now to you, we have sent direct email. I do not know how to do a file attach over a mailing list, if you will explain that to me I will be happy to post the mp3s to the whole list. The ONLY way I know how to do that is with a hyperlink, and we have done that! (And you are mad about it!) Bottom line, if you can't find the songs on AP sites, let me know and I will mail them to you, same goes for ANYONE else that can't find them. I am sorry we disagree about hyperlinks, can't we just agree to disagree or debate it on #poe? Do we HAVE to do this here AGAIN!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:15:29 EDT From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Re: more bandwidth waste - maybe it can end now? Naaa... >>we just happen to have space for the DL on the DBR, where by the way you DO NOT have to register, any knowledgeable user can just surf on in as a guest, right click on the hyperlilnk and SAVE AS to their desktop (for WINDOWS users, obviously)<< Yeah, you do have to register to download...believe me...I tried when the link was first given to this list...lol Linds ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ http://etherealreality.org "With you there's no easy answer--it's true--you change the equation I add up to. And all of the things that I thought I knew--you turn it around...I'm amazed...When push comes to shove what I'd give to you--everything...I'm amazed..." - --POE, Amazed "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:36:04 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: more bandwidth waste - maybe it can end now? Naaa... Hello LotteP0T0@aol.com, In reference to your comment: h >>we just happen to have space for the DL on h the DBR, where by the way you DO NOT have to h register, any knowledgeable user can just surf on in as h a guest, right click on the hyperlilnk and SAVE AS to h their desktop (for WINDOWS users, obviously)<< h Yeah, you do have to register to download...believe h me...I tried when the link was first given to this list...lol h Linds ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ This is my screw up, forgot to tell Elf about a LITTLE change I made without telling her.... Elf had it set up that anybody could download, she THOUGHT that was the way it was ... but these MP3s where given to us under the condition that they not get widespread general distribution, but would be for the Angry Psychos ( much like navelsex files are supposed to be.) Since the BBS is an integral part of www.angry-psychos.com, anyone registered there IS an Angry Psycho, as registration there registers them for the AP List. So to keep our commitment to Rhys Fulber I made them downloadable by registered users only. As a general rule, guests can download without registering. But not files from the AP Archives ..Navelsex, etc whose use is restricted by the copyright holder as is the case with these two. Sorry Elf. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:39:16 -0400 From: "Andrea E. Jackman" Subject: Re: more bandwidth waste - maybe it can end now? Naaa... linds there are 2 links, people had trouble with this . . . let me make plain instructions for the less savvy . . . the text reads in the post . . . "Thanks to AP Sean "Starboy" Francis and Jonas Moon at pigmailzx@aol.com you can listen to Conjure One featuring Poe --- this is track 8 Make A Wish" the song title in that phrase is a direct download hyperlink (everyone seems to have some malfunction with this of-used internet feature) the link at the bottom of the post with the paperclip attachment was the original that DAN uploaded. this is also true for Center of The Sun, our forums allow for posting attachments. to make it easier on users, and to be sure it could be found, i created the hyperlink and redirected the song so that any one viewing the page would be able to DL it. thereby having two places for it, in case the other doesn't work or becomes misdirected. this is a safeguard, as it is uncertain where attached files will be placed on our server within the structure until we PHYSICALLY go into the folder and reroute them as necessary, i posted the hyperlink in a secondary way. i just logged off and was able to duplicate this very action. IT IS COMPLETELY POSSIBLE to DL the songs WITHOUT registering. end of discussion. ////Andrea littleREDelf - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 4:15 PM Subject: Re: more bandwidth waste - maybe it can end now? Naaa... >>we just happen to have space for the DL on the DBR, where by the way you DO NOT have to register, any knowledgeable user can just surf on in as a guest, right click on the hyperlilnk and SAVE AS to their desktop (for WINDOWS users, obviously)<< Yeah, you do have to register to download...believe me...I tried when the link was first given to this list...lol Linds ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ http://etherealreality.org "With you there's no easy answer--it's true--you change the equation I add up to. And all of the things that I thought I knew--you turn it around...I'm amazed...When push comes to shove what I'd give to you--everything...I'm amazed..." - --POE, Amazed "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:52:53 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: more bandwidth waste - maybe it can end now? Naaa... Hello littleredelf@comcast.net, In reference to your comment: h IT IS COMPLETELY POSSIBLE to DL the songs h WITHOUT registering In my BEST Sargent Shultz voice: "I know NOTHING!!! NOTHING!!!" (Do you guys even REMEMBER Hogan's Heroes , I keep forgetting how OLD I am!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:16:18 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: more bandwidth waste - maybe it can end now? Naaa... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: more bandwidth waste - maybe it can end now? Naaa... > In my BEST Sargent Shultz voice: "I know NOTHING!!! NOTHING!!!" (Do you > guys even REMEMBER Hogan's Heroes , I keep forgetting how OLD I am!) OK, now I see how it works, one minute you are the power nazi, keeping your commitment to Rhys Fulber the next minute you are the ignorant nazi who knows nothing because it's one of your BBS buddies so to hell with your useless "commitment" to Rhys Fulber. Blah blah balh, spin spin spin, from DR D the nazi spin doctor, and his Head Nurse. sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://DigitalSter.Com ===================================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:26:23 -0500 From: "Jess" Subject: SPR: DBR BullShit and Walk the Walk Live First I want to ask anyone if they have a live version of Walk the Walk on mp3 that they could send me via email. I don't really like the album version that much because it was a little too happy and pop sounding but seeing her perform in live was crazy. Poe is truly one of the few people who can do a better live version than studio version (like Tool's Opiate). Now for the BBS, I agree with sp00k in some ways like the fact that anyone could have simply pasted the lyrics on the email and if it is *SUCH* a big deal about bandwidth then send it to them privately but that would be too easy! I think the DBR is a good tool except I hate wading through all the stuff I don't want to read to find the few things I'm interested in. Clicking on 5 different things just to get to the one thing I need is irritating because not all of us are on dsl. I wouldn't like asking a question such as how much will tickets cost to RAINN (for example) then have someone tell me go to http://eqogonhqotnortortjorgnborgb=fgifkbnib and then have the hyperlink break halfway through in the email and then deal with some more bullshit to get it to work when someone could have simply answered my question up front. Now if they had asked for Poe lyrics in general that would be something different. Has it ocurred to anyone that maybe the reason they asked on the list was because they don't like the bbs very much (like me)? I would also use #poe but I absolutely hate dalnet and the few times I use irc it's on undernet to download mp3s (and if you wondering how I can complain about a slow connection and then say I download mp3s frequently it's because I have a program to download songs automatically while I'm at school or asleep so time isn't really an issue). Jessica ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:32:09 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: more bandwidth waste - maybe it can end now? Naaa... Hello usscvn65@frontiernet.net, In reference to your comment: h OK, now I see how it works, one minute you are the h power nazi, keeping your commitment to Rhys Fulber h the next minute you are the ignorant nazi who knows h nothing because it's one of your BBS buddies so to h hell with your useless "commitment" to Rhys Fulber. h Blah blah balh, spin spin spin, from DR D the nazi spin h doctor, and his Head Nurse. Kewl!!!! Does this mean you are gonna let me use my Cartman Hitler avatar again?? Yeah!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 23:52:47 -0400 From: "Conor Riley" Subject: Re: Center of Sun Lyrics / DBR BULLSHIT sp00k i hear ya--but no ones gonna listen. i even got yelled at for sharing info on here once--oops forgot my link. ;) ;)..sp00k at one point i realized, who cares?! its a fan bbs. POE rules and I love her, but i dont think its worth it to worry about these things. ANYWAYS my point being go to Realpoe.com im not trying to stop ppl from going to the DBR but the p-o-e.com BBS NEEDS support. We can make it live again guys!! support p+E!!!! +++Your pal, always - Conor - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sp00k@poe.org" To: "angry psychos" Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:09 AM Subject: Center of Sun Lyrics / DBR BULLSHIT > > A request was made for the lyrics to "Center of the Sun" Instead of lyrics, we get a link to the DBR > > Ask about Poe's new music, and what do you get? A misformed link to the DBR if you want to hear it. > > Having a charity event that includes Poe? Even charity is fair game, MILK that charity for all it's worth, and make people go to > the DBR for informaiton. > > If people ask a question on the Angry Psychos e-mail list, it would be nice if people would stop using it for > a stepping stone to force people to visit the DBR for the answer. > > Here are the requested lyrics, and you wont have to repair some sloppy ass copy and paste URL to the DBR to read them. > > Conjure One (featuring Poe) - Center of the Sun > > (I hear) > > Young girl in the market > Gives it to the men > When the men leave > Her eyes are red > When her eyes are closed again she sees the dark market ... > > And she sings > "They say the most horrible things" > But I hear violins > > When I close my eyes > I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > Young boy in the market > Follows all the men > When the men leave > He's out of his head > When his eyes are closed again he sees the dark market... > > And he sings > "They break the most beautiful things" > But I hear violins > > When I close my eyes > I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > I look into your eyes > And I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > (Center of the sun) > > Young boy in the market > Sees the girl alone > And asks her > "Have you lost you way home?" > > She sings > "You say the most beautiful things" > Just like my violins > > I look into your eyes > I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > When I close my eyes > I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > ('Cause I hear violins) > (I hear violins) > (Center of the sun) > > I hear violins > > sp00k etc ... > Http://Poe.Org > Http://DigitalSter.Com > ================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 23:54:51 -0400 From: "Conor Riley" Subject: Re: Center of Sun Lyrics / DBR BULLSHIT p.s. Elf--you rawk my world +++Conor - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea E. Jackman" To: "sp00k@poe.org" Cc: "ANGRY PSYCHOS" Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:53 AM Subject: Re: Center of Sun Lyrics / DBR BULLSHIT > > yeah . . . > it's awful how long the links are for the forum topics. > mailing lists don't allow for a lot of formatting really, > and i apologized twice for it, > but no one is being forced to visit. > > and i won't apologize for the requested content being there, > i didn't post it. > it's not entirely my fault that we have new songs and content. > i'll try to stay behind the ball. > > as for the RAINN event, > the details are also at p-o-e > where it was not only milked, > it was bled. > > still, all these tiresome sloppy ass links, > are better than no info at all . . . > > next time, > i'll just let you guess, > and if you don't want to visit there, > it's no skin off my nose. > > you just tell me and the rest of us the wicked little way you see it, > how corrupt and awful a conspiracy it all is, > and i'll hope you will understand that > no one force, one BBS, one site, one list, one chat, > is trying to get the better part over anything or anyone else. > > besides, people cross post the same stuff at p-o-e, > i'll link to both next time so you'll have 2 fucked up choices to deal with > instead of having to actually surf the topics. > > there are 363 other people posting the misinformation > that we all so desperately clamoring for. > and they are all ANGRY PSYCHOS. > DBR BULLSHIT = AP BULLSHIT. > > > deal. > > > ///Andrea > littleREDelf > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sp00k@poe.org" > To: "angry psychos" > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:09 AM > Subject: Center of Sun Lyrics / DBR BULLSHIT > > > > A request was made for the lyrics to "Center of the Sun" Instead of lyrics, > we get a link to the DBR > > Ask about Poe's new music, and what do you get? A misformed link to the DBR > if you want to hear it. > > Having a charity event that includes Poe? Even charity is fair game, MILK > that charity for all it's worth, and make people go to > the DBR for informaiton. > > If people ask a question on the Angry Psychos e-mail list, it would be nice > if people would stop using it for > a stepping stone to force people to visit the DBR for the answer. > > Here are the requested lyrics, and you wont have to repair some sloppy ass > copy and paste URL to the DBR to read them. > > Conjure One (featuring Poe) - Center of the Sun > > (I hear) > > Young girl in the market > Gives it to the men > When the men leave > Her eyes are red > When her eyes are closed again she sees the dark market ... > > And she sings > "They say the most horrible things" > But I hear violins > > When I close my eyes > I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > Young boy in the market > Follows all the men > When the men leave > He's out of his head > When his eyes are closed again he sees the dark market... > > And he sings > "They break the most beautiful things" > But I hear violins > > When I close my eyes > I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > I look into your eyes > And I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > (Center of the sun) > > Young boy in the market > Sees the girl alone > And asks her > "Have you lost you way home?" > > She sings > "You say the most beautiful things" > Just like my violins > > I look into your eyes > I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > When I close my eyes > I am at the center of the sun > And I cannot be hurt > By anything this wicked world has done > > ('Cause I hear violins) > (I hear violins) > (Center of the sun) > > I hear violins > > sp00k etc ... > Http://Poe.Org > Http://DigitalSter.Com > ================================================================== ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V7 #226 ***********************************