From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V7 #209 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Saturday, July 27 2002 Volume 07 : Number 209 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPR Re: giving out phone #s [Kevin Intoen ] Re: NPR Re: giving out phone #s [Kevin Intoen ] Re: angry-psychos-digest V7 #208 [SnugaKitn@aol.com] NPR: AH!! Get over the number thing you guys!!! ["Chris Sommers" ] Re: NPR Giving out phone numbers [NoisyPollution@aol.com] PR:NPR? House of leaves [CtProse10@aol.com] NPR The House of leaves, reading of style [CtProse10@aol.com] NPR: AH!! Get over the number thing you guys!!! [LolipopFailure@aol.com] eryn is stupid- the number thing [LolipopFailure@aol.com] Re: angry-psychos-digest V7 #208 [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR: AH!! Get over the number thing you guys!!! [KrodKnid@aol.com] npr Mum ["Kung Gene" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 05:12:15 -0400 From: Kevin Intoen Subject: Re: NPR Re: giving out phone #s On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 01:30:02AM -0400, angry-psychos-digest wrote: [snip] > Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 03:57:08 EDT > From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com > Subject: Re: NPR: the whole number thing i started.... > > I spent about 2min how close did I get mr. Sommers? >;-) [snip] I have a hunch that that's his dad or something, seeing as his first name isn't Erick...anyway, I guess there goes me leaving out parts of his info. [snip] >Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:42:43 -0400 >From: JennaBopo@aol.com >Subject: Re: NPR Re: giving out phone #s > > From: "Kevin Intoen" > > Subject: Re: giving out phone #s > > > > YOU ARE _FUCKING STUPID_ IF YOU POST YOUR HOME PHONE NUMBER IN EMAIL > > > While I personally would not choose to leave my phone number in an email, I really don't think it's necessary to talk to someone like this whose intentions were only to get to know the other members on the list. Whatever your opinions may be, a little tact would be desireable, and such harsh language is really unnecessary to use to someone who, at least to all appearances, does not merit being talked to in this manner. It's over now, just for future reference, people will respect your opinion much more if you present it in a way that wouldn't be perceived as an attack or an insult. > > j For the record, I show tact when tact is called for. This is not one of those times, my intent was to impress what a bad idea this was on EVERYONE. I think I've done that. The "harsh language" was there for a reason. You want tact? Tact is showing consideration for his privacy by not posting the missing bits of that address, although apparently someone else did anyway. In the future, I will still phrase things as I see fit. > Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:44:39 EDT > From: SnugaKitn@aol.com > Subject: Number thing > > Giving out your Number is a bad idea for another reason. > Someone got a hold of my home phone # somehow this year and charged $50 worth > of 1-900 number calls to my account. Luckily I never use that line for > anything other than internet dial-up (don't laugh) so I was able to contest > the charges and have them removed from my account. > My parents had a similar problem about 5 years ago when prisoners from the > Lake County Prison were using their number to make long distance phone calls > to their account. > > Besides...isn't Xeno still out there? Do you want him calling you? Who's Xeno? [snip] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 05:14:30 -0400 From: Kevin Intoen Subject: Re: NPR Re: giving out phone #s Well, there are worse things than people breaking into your house or assaulting you; I wasn't really thinking about that. But I do get your point, sp00k. The thing is, though, that I don't think a lot of people here really know the score, although you seem like you've been around a while and do.. On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 12:46:35PM -0400, sp00k@poe.org wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Intoen" > Subject: Re: giving out phone #s > > > > > YOU ARE _FUCKING STUPID_ IF YOU POST YOUR HOME PHONE NUMBER IN EMAIL > > > In the past, a good number of AP's myself included, have posted their phone numbers for the purpose of communicating when Poe tours. > I suspect that the trend will continue. > > I'm pretty certain that the people you already know in your offline personal life are more apt to sexually assault, or otherwise > physically harm you, or rob you. > > > sp00k etc ... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 08:56:29 EDT From: SnugaKitn@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V7 #208 About the 1-900 from my home.... I live alone with a cat, I rarely ever have visitors because no one wants to see the inside of my pigsty. And the few times that I have had visitors they have never used my phone OR my computer. And my apartment is so tiny that I could hear a pindrop from one end to the other. So you explain to me how $50 worth of 1-900 calls were charged to my account when no one dialed them. As I already stated I don't use that line for anything other than internet, I use my cell phone for calling. And I don't look at porn online, nor do I call those #'s, nor would I ever. Ameritech told me that someone could have hacked into my computer...considering I am on 56K dialup I don't know why anyone would want to hack into my POS system. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:43:42 -0400 From: "Chris Sommers" Subject: NPR: AH!! Get over the number thing you guys!!! It's NO big deal at ALL!!!! If you wanted my address you could have just asked and I woulda posted it. I need some adventure in my life. Would love to see somebody come and rob/steal something from my dad's place! Ahahahah, go right ahead and take whatever you think would be worth something, which is nothing. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:14:38 EDT From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Re: AH!! Get over... and HoL Yes, please do. This thing has escalated way too far. The points have been made more than a few times now (I think about six people posted the name and address), and I'm sure everybody now knows just how "stupid and blah blah blah posting your phone number" is. It's really a small matter when you think about it, and worth far less trouble than it has been made into. Now--in an expansion of a comment I posted before about House of Leaves and books-on-tape, I'm kind of curious as to how everyone thinks that it would come off as a book-on-tape (well, those of you that have read it/are currently reading it). If you were going to undertake that project, how would you go about doing it (kind of along the same lines of how you read it, I guess, with it having two different "stories"--Zampano's and Johnny's)? Just bored and curious :-) Lindsay ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ http://etherealreality.org "With you there's no easy answer--it's true--you change the equation I add up to. And all of the things that I thought I knew--you turn it around...I'm amazed...When push comes to shove what I'd give to you--everything...I'm amazed..." - --POE, Amazed "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:36:15 -0400 From: "Kung Gene" Subject: npr Múm in nyc Hi, Just wondering if anybody else here is going to the Mzm concert tonight at the Knitting Factory! I'm really looking forward to it! Kung-Gene "Leon, what exactly do you do?" "Cleaner." "You mean you're a hitman?" "Yeah." "Cool." _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:45:11 EDT From: NoisyPollution@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Giving out phone numbers In a message dated 7/25/02 11:05:35 PM Central Daylight Time, thegeneral@knology.net writes: > Just a quick question....can't you find out that type of info about anyone > on the net already? If a person wanted to find a AP then sure that number > would be useful in the task but isn't it already available elsewhere? > He's right. All you have to do is go to www.anywho.com, and if your phone number is listed in the phone book, anyone has access to your address and phone number. If you have a popular name, like John Smith for example, one can easily type in a city, like Chicago, and there you have it. Name, address, and phone number. Of course, the search may be too broad but it anyone knows your first and last name and area you live in, there ya go. Besides, everyone on this list basically knows where each AP lives, and some APs list their first and last name. It's that easy. Peace, }}Y{{eLissA Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans- John Lennon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:47:56 EDT From: CtProse10@aol.com Subject: PR:NPR? House of leaves i have just finished house of leaves. it took longer than i would have desired though. It was kinda hard to work the book into my schedule, when my schedule resembles a washing machine on rinse cycle... i loved the book though. i read, a lot. I am perfectly capable of devouring a 500-600 page book in a school day [a matter of hours for that matter], but house of leaves required more time. as i said, i read a lot. thus i have read a broad spectrum of titles, from a multitude of genres. but i truly must say, this book is different. unique. wonderful. different than anything i have ever read, or written. i shall say this: read it. i do not care what type of books you prefer [well, i kinda do, but:] but thou must readeth this booketh. i read fantasy, fiction, non-fiction, horror, history, christian, and many other genres. and i must say, that this book is, is, is. no matter what i say, i will do the book, the house no justice. so, in a very long and drawn out manner, i most suredly say, read the house. the book of the house. sorry to keep you all so long. but i must take my leave of you, it is getting difficult to keep my eyes in focus right now. [my eyesight leaves much to be desired... gets worse by the day...] anyways, i have learned that things are better finished, when finished with a quote. so "You don't need eyes to see, you need vision." -Maxi Jazz [Faithless] All the best - -Christopher ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:45:50 EDT From: CtProse10@aol.com Subject: NPR The House of leaves, reading of style i guess i should give my forty-five cents as related to how i read the book. although i do not see as to how, or why people would have so little respect for their own opinions, that they would auction them off for only two cents... i read page by page. every footnote, everything. which i believe is the only way to read the book. for many things that happen in the book, relate to things that happen to Mr. T. also, vice-versa. for when johnny writes, what he writes relates to the book. well, in many cases... also, what happens in the book, in some way relates to what happens to Mr. Truant. also, many of the footnotes relate to the book, give vital technical information, equations, and other "general" information that is important in reading the house. oh well, that is my opinion that i seem to have invested too heavily upon. luckfully i have stayed out of the stock-market! and, the quote of the minute: "Tomorrow has to start somewhere..." -Maxi Jazz. if i remember correctly, which i am fairly certain that i do... P.S. I will be away for a few days, how long, not certain. Going "up north" fishing with my brother, and a friend. Should be back by monday, sunday, whenever. it doesn't matter :). or does it? all this intrigue and more, can be found in? - -life- live it I will be on the "Whitefish Chain" [northern minnesota] wish me luck :) - -all the best - -Christopher ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 00:42:42 EDT From: LolipopFailure@aol.com Subject: NPR: AH!! Get over the number thing you guys!!! heres my veiw on the numbers. sure, there are ppl in your real life that can hurt you....but there are psychos (no pun intended everywhere.) everywhere. its just an unneeded risk in my book....but do as you will.... eryn Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (rly-yc01.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.33]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILINYC21-0726104428; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:44:28 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [199.201.145.78]) by rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC19-0726104412; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:44:12 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (ident-user@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6QEhk3C001143 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:43:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g6QEhkDm001135 for angry-psychos-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:43:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f110.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.110]) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6QEhi3C001096 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:43:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 07:43:42 -0700 Received: from 24.210.137.1 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:43:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.210.137.1] From: "Chris Sommers" To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: NPR: AH!! Get over the number thing you guys!!! Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:43:42 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2002 14:43:42.0881 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6969110:01C234B2] Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) It's NO big deal at ALL!!!! If you wanted my address you could have just asked and I woulda posted it. I need some adventure in my life. Would love to see somebody come and rob/steal something from my dad's place! Ahahahah, go right ahead and take whatever you think would be worth something, which is nothing. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 00:45:49 EDT From: LolipopFailure@aol.com Subject: eryn is stupid- the number thing sorry about the "psychos (no pun intended everywhere.) everywhere." thing....lol...but its late and my typing abilities have gone down the drain..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 01:06:46 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V7 #208 In a message dated 7/26/2002 9:01:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SnugaKitn@aol.com writes: > About the 1-900 from my home.... > I live alone with a cat, I rarely ever have visitors because no one wants > to > see the inside of my pigsty. And the few times that I have had visitors > they > have never used my phone OR my computer. And my apartment is so tiny that > I > could hear a pindrop from one end to the other. > So you explain to me how $50 worth of 1-900 calls were charged to my > account > when no one dialed them. As I already stated I don't use that line for > anything other than internet, I use my cell phone for calling. And I don't > > look at porn online, nor do I call those #'s, nor would I ever. > > Ameritech told me that someone could have hacked into my > computer...considering I am on 56K dialup I don't know why anyone would > want > to hack into my POS system. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had this happen to me once...for $90 worth of calls. I was still on a modem then too. The calls were placed by a website I was at without my knowing it...the damned thing called some porno place in near Thailand or Singapore! The operator informed me that this was common with dial-up connections that didn't have a firewall and that it would be removed from my bill...this time. After that they assume you are making the calls yourself. So, get ZoneAlarm or some other freeware firewall to keep it from happening again. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 01:09:26 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: AH!! Get over the number thing you guys!!! In a message dated 7/26/2002 10:44:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cornflakeboy65@hotmail.com writes: > It's NO big deal at ALL!!!! If you wanted my address you could have just > asked and I woulda posted it. I need some adventure in my life. Would love > to see somebody come and rob/steal something from my dad's place! Ahahahah, > > go right ahead and take whatever you think would be worth something, which > is nothing. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't mean that this is the case for everyone here:-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 01:13:25 -0400 From: "Kung Gene" Subject: npr Mum fuck fuck fuck, that was an awesome show...... and I got to meet Kristin Anna too!!! but I didn't have a camera!!! I think that's going to haunt me for a while, especially if I don't get another chance. let that be a lesson to all you concertgoers, always bring a camera.... ;) for those who care, the show itself was, like I said, absolutely amazing.....I'm not sure what I can say, other than I cannot wait to have a chance to see them again, if that'll happen....so well done......I loved it when they sang with that soft voice thing, very cool stuff......also the whole accordion thing was interesting, as was the tremendous variety of instruments, everybody took turns with almost all the instruments.......and I thought that Kristin was absolutely gorgeous though, wow...... does anybody want me to write any more? I think after I recover tonight I can write a more detailed account if anybody wants. off to dreamland, Kung-Gene "Leon, what exactly do you do?" "Cleaner." "You mean you're a hitman?" "Yeah." "Cool." _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V7 #209 ***********************************