From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V7 #140 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Tuesday, May 14 2002 Volume 07 : Number 140 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: maybe its time to wave goodbye now [Kevin Intoen ] Re: What Poe has done for you(me!).... [Kevin Intoen ] NPR: waving goodbye [Jen Ralston ] Re: angry-psychos-digest V7 #139 [Linz ] Re: angry-psychos-digest V7 #139 [Linz ] 1st full year as a psycho ["Sarah Lippert" ] Subject: What Poe has done for you(me!).... [tohaveaplan@att.net] haPPy Mother's Day. ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: What Poe has done for you(me!).... ["Derek Benton" ] Re: The last word..Love you Poe! [LiLyVixenZ@aol.com] Re: The FIRST last word on sp00k and chats ["sp00k@poe.org" ] to sp00k essentially ["Conor Riley" ] Re: to sp00k essentially ["sp00k@poe.org" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 01:18:00 -0500 From: Kevin Intoen Subject: Re: maybe its time to wave goodbye now On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 06:50:19PM -0500, BirdBlack wrote: > Logic problem: > If they are gone from the list, they don't see your objection to their > goodbye note. No, it's not a logic problem, on my part at least, it's a jumping in without reading the whole thread problem on your part. Perhaps you should make sure you are informed or at least not pretend you are before you jump in next time. We've been over this. My bitching isn't aimed at the people that have already left, it's at whoever might consider doing it in the future. > If they are not gone from the list, they didn't send a goodbye and get no > more from your rants than you do from the goodbye notes. See above. > Can we get a cropduster to fly over and spray some liquid valium please? Only if that cropduster immediately turns around, loads up on clue, and dusts your immediate area. Send a bitchy message, get a bitchy answer. [snip] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 02:02:09 -0500 From: Kevin Intoen Subject: Re: What Poe has done for you(me!).... I'm not a very emotional person. But I get emotional when I listen to music. Good music makes you feel, when it's difficult to otherwise. That's one of the reasons I treasure Poe's music so much, although I wish she'd release music more often. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 06:47:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jen Ralston Subject: NPR: waving goodbye for those of us who choose to complain everytime someone says that they are leaving the list, the most annoying part of the "i'm leaving"--"fine, don't let the door hit you on the way out and stop telling everyone you're going" cycle is that the only people who get to hear you complain about the people leaving are the people staying. how many times do you have to tell US? you don't have to tell us at all--email the leavers privately. you're more annoying than the people who are just letting the rest of us know they are bailing and why. LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 07:08:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Linz Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V7 #139 Hey everybody! Haven't written in a really, REALLY long time. I have been a member of the list for about a year and a half now, and I dont talk much, so I thought I would say my piece right now. All I want to say is that I just think this whole thing is really entertaining! I mean, I sit here and read all these threads, and rants, and name callings, etc. and I just giggle to myself. HE HE HE HE It is really funny to me. No filters, no deletions, I just read, and read, and laugh, and laugh. I love it! And the part that is even funnier to me? I find it hilarious that some people are either so angry that they don't take the time to spell check, or they are just plain stupid! I mean, come ON people! There is a button for spell check on most computers! And then again, that is what Third Grade english class was for! So that you could spell simple words like english, and class. (just examples, I don't really know if those were the misspelled words or not)But hey, I for one and not going anywhere, and I for one do not delete. I actually enjoy myself. So rant away, children! Rant away! P.S. - Hey Bird, I think you are funny as hell, man! I love reading your posts the most. Witty, intelligent, and a good typist/speller! You are OK in my book! LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 07:08:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Linz Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V7 #139 Hey everybody! Haven't written in a really, REALLY long time. I have been a member of the list for about a year and a half now, and I dont talk much, so I thought I would say my piece right now. All I want to say is that I just think this whole thing is really entertaining! I mean, I sit here and read all these threads, and rants, and name callings, etc. and I just giggle to myself. HE HE HE HE It is really funny to me. No filters, no deletions, I just read, and read, and laugh, and laugh. I love it! And the part that is even funnier to me? I find it hilarious that some people are either so angry that they don't take the time to spell check, or they are just plain stupid! I mean, come ON people! There is a button for spell check on most computers! And then again, that is what Third Grade english class was for! So that you could spell simple words like english, and class. (just examples, I don't really know if those were the misspelled words or not)But hey, I for one and not going anywhere, and I for one do not delete. I actually enjoy myself. So rant away, children! Rant away! P.S. - Hey Bird, I think you are funny as hell, man! I love reading your posts the most. Witty, intelligent, and a good typist/speller! You are OK in my book! LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 11:58:35 -0400 From: "Sarah Lippert" Subject: 1st full year as a psycho i'm sitting in computer class right now thinking about how i basically have four weeks left until my freshman year is over. this small thought brought another thought on. not only will it be the end of the school year, it will be nearing one full year for me as an angry psycho. this list besides just giving me something to read and once in a while respond to, has in one small way or another brought me closer the the music i love. thats what this list is for, right? i just wanted to let everyone know this to maybe help settle down all the sp00k/dan type crazyness thats been floating around. the music is why i'm here and its why i'll stay. i can proudly call myself and angry psycho, and for better or for worse, you guys are stuck with me! ~SaraH _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 15:38:37 +0000 From: tohaveaplan@att.net Subject: Subject: What Poe has done for you(me!).... For me Poe is an inspriation when I am feeling low to remain strong and remember when I am down that life will go up again. She also helps me get in touch with causes, emotions and thoughts I have as a woman and allows me a a place to interact with the deeper parts of me. Lastly, from my interation with her as a person she has given me hope that we can each of us can remain in touch with others even when we seem to be on top of our game. Essentially recognizing that in our own ways all of us are talented, all are loving and all of us can be trolls- it is human nature. The importatnt thing is to remember everything is cyclatory. Did that make sense? Sometimes I think I am the only one who knows what Poe does for me. Love yas! ABC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:56:33 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: haPPy Mother's Day. haPPy Mother's Day. http://www.freewebz.com/rochester/diva/divas.html sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://DigitalSter.Com ================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 14:09:21 -0400 From: "Derek Benton" Subject: Re: What Poe has done for you(me!).... For me, POE has touched my heart in ways I can relate to. Here songs I can apply to different situations throughout my life, the way I'm feeling, etc. I treasure her music because it puts my emotions and thoughts into words, into melody, and they become even more powerful when I listen to her music. I could probably do a better job of describing how much her music means to me if I wasn't so tired! So instead of trying to by babbling inanely, I'll just end this here! D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 16:03:47 -0500 From: "BirdBlack" Subject: The last word on sp00k and chats It's the last word, because it's the only one that matters. Poe's. http://angry-psychos.infopop.cc/thelastwordons00k.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:03:22 EDT From: LiLyVixenZ@aol.com Subject: Re: The last word..Love you Poe! Hey, I'm a lurker most of the time, but I am glad to see that this finally got resolved. I completely agree with Poe and support her all the way. It's immensely difficult to satisfy everyone in a situation like this and ultimately it comes down to what is best for oneself. Poe is an incredible artist and it is obvious that she puts all her love into her music. Her own happiness in this situation should come first. I think she does a great job, more than other artists, at interacting with her fans and talking to them not as fans but as her own friends. Her shows are a blast and I love the way she gets the audience involved. She also seems highly intuitive, because I was at her SF show last November and couldn't see a thing above these two tall guys ahead of me who were rude and pushed themselves in front of me. Anyway, somehow she spotted me and pulled me up on the stage twice and gave me a hug. I was too shy to tell her I was an angry psycho, because I have some horrible stage fright. Anyway, I thought that was really cool and that is something that has never happened to me at a concert before. She's loved by many people and the fact that many people have received hugs from her or even have hung out with her is pretty special. How many of your other favorite artists can you say you had much or any contact with at all? Well, thats my little Poe admiration speech :) I wish her all the luck and can't wait to go to her next show. Hopefully, I'll be brave enough to bring an angry psycho poster with me :P Tara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:41:18 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: The FIRST last word on sp00k and chats Nice footage bird, it shows Poe about 4 months before we got the last e-mail from the electric artists rep in which he informed us that he was drunk and that Poe's Christmas message was ready... Course that was in January... AND, consider this, #poe had been online since almost 1995, waiting outside Poe's door so to speak, to chat. Who wouldn't be piSSed to have a hired company stop by and invite you to their gig? Here's a little fat for ya to chew on bird, I doub't very much that I am the only mortal who has cursed his Goddess while in pain, and from the looks of the pictures I have taken months later during her Toronto visit, it appears that as a good Goddess, she understands I was born to sin, an AP. While I may be desrving of her wrath for my harsh words towards rusty, MABYE, I have no qualms about they way I feel about dan.... I'm sure I sleep better with that flim clip than dan does living with the reality that he sues kids. Hmmm now lets see, I noticed some writing on the BBS about why the subject of Grandpa Dan suing 14 year old kids was brought up. IF you have been reading the list, it is becoming apparent that many people are not aware of what is happening on the BBS. That is the thought that occured to me, when Blue Bastard mentioned that he doesn't read the BBS, I thinks to myself, hey! He don't even know about dan suing kids... and Poes staff etc... Blue Bastard is not the only one who as expressed the comment that they are unawares of what happens on the BBS... Maybe you will be getting some new opinions on that, I will see if I can find a spot for this on USENET. luv the sp00kster LOL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:43:49 -0500 From: "BirdBlack" Subject: Re: The FIRST last word on sp00k and chats The matter of the chats was addressed, and elegantly explained. However the reply is really just to make note of the fact that this is the first writing by sp00k that Bird can recall that did not look like it was written by a victim of Tourette Syndrome. Bravo! Here is to more civil (even if you did neatly sidestep the point) discourse. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sp00k@poe.org" To: "angry psychos" Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: Re: The FIRST last word on sp00k and chats > > Nice footage bird, it shows Poe about 4 months before we got the last e-mail from the electric artists rep in which he informed us > that he was drunk and that Poe's Christmas message was ready... Course that was in January... AND, consider this, #poe had been > online since almost 1995, waiting outside Poe's door so to speak, to chat. Who wouldn't be piSSed to have a hired company stop by > and invite you to their gig? > > Here's a little fat for ya to chew on bird, I doub't very much that I am the only mortal who has cursed his Goddess while in pain, > and from the looks of the pictures I have taken months later during her Toronto visit, it appears that as a good Goddess, she > understands I was born to sin, an AP. > > While I may be desrving of her wrath for my harsh words towards rusty, MABYE, I have no qualms about they way I feel about dan.... > > I'm sure I sleep better with that flim clip than dan does living with the reality that he sues kids. > > Hmmm now lets see, I noticed some writing on the BBS about why the subject of > Grandpa Dan suing 14 year old kids was brought up. > > IF you have been reading the list, it is becoming apparent that many people are not > aware of what is happening on the BBS. > > That is the thought that occured to me, when Blue Bastard mentioned that he doesn't read the BBS, I thinks to myself, hey! He don't > even know about dan suing kids... and Poes staff etc... > > Blue Bastard is not the only one who as expressed the comment that they are unawares of what happens on the BBS... > > Maybe you will be getting some new opinions on that, I will see if I can find a spot for this on USENET. > > luv > > the sp00kster LOL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 19:08:38 -0400 From: "Conor Riley" Subject: ++POE NETWORK++ www.poenetwork.cjb.net !!!! its up, running and better than ever :) its very bare right now, but dont worry, there will be new things popping up daily. check back many times to see what else comes of this p+E site. - -conor- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 22:44:43 -0400 From: "Conor Riley" Subject: to sp00k essentially sp00k, i know that in the last 2 weeks or so, you've been referring to a 14 year old kid being sued by dan. I am most likely the kid you are referring to seeing as how i just turned 15 and rumors have been flying around. At first i even believed the rumors, but now since talking to dan i know for a fact i am NOT being sued, so please discontinue from saying i am being sued. just listening to your rumor has caused myself to lose someone i consider a friend, im more mad at myself for believing it. Now sp00k, you have been most kind to me, and i just want to ask you PLEASE kill em with kindness and stop. Thank you for reading this. peace 2ya - -conor- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 23:19:57 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: to sp00k essentially Hi, the reason I say 14 year old is that is how old you were when he said he was going to file a lawsuit against you, miki, craig, angie, etc... and am under the impression that this statement "Notice that I do NOT blame Poe. I suspect you guys are lying to her the same way you lye to all of us. Poe will NOT be named in the lawsuit I will be filing next week if your answers and apology are not published on this list by Sunday night" was still valid and you had a deadline of last nite to give your apologies etc... now if anything has changed, I didn't see it on the BBS but I'd say that the thread where dan states his intent to sue you makes it all pretty clear, thats why I provided a link to it. Now as I said if something has changed and dan is no longer suing all those people he named, it is news to me. It certainly does not change the fact that he made it clear that he intened to do so, and a review of the thread makes that painfuly clear. Now I think there is ample evidence around the BBS that he did make it clear his intent to sue, unless they have had another delete party over there. I also suspected you were not saying anything as you were already being threatend. Also, this all started because you made an INNOCENT request for a link to the Poe store, and no, looking at the entire thread, there is no way dan should have put you through this IMHO, and I'd be willing to bet that MILLIONS of people would agree. I will be happy to put the issue to a rest, but I will not deny what I read on the BBS to be true. Thanks. sp00k ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V7 #140 ***********************************