From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V7 #131 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, May 6 2002 Volume 07 : Number 131 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NPR: Dar Williams ["Michael Anderson" ] ***Please Read***State of the AP List ["amato" ] Out of Chaos , Comes ORDER ["Angry Terry" ] Re: Out of Chaos , Comes ORDER [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Out of Chaos , Comes ORDER/NPR [KrodKnid@aol.com] NPR- So, ummm-NPR ["Bad Bender" ] Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR ["BirdBlack" ] NPR: Royalties ["Kristin Hazard" ] Re: Royalties ["Conor Riley" ] Re: NPR: Royalties [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Royalties ["Stephen A. Mallia" ] Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR ["BirdBlack" ] Re: Royalties could tell horror stories about this shit. For example, I had frie [KrodKni] Re: Royalties ["Conor Riley" ] Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR [KrodKnid@aol.com] Final post as AP Board Member ( not quiting, term expired) [Dan98908@aol.] Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR [Cyberfan Corporation ] Re: Royalties [Cyberfan Corporation ] Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR [Cyberfan Corporation ] Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR [Dan98908@aol.com] Re: Final post as AP Board Member ( not quiting, term expired) ["Conor Ri] Re: Final post as AP Board Member ( not quiting, term expired) [Dan98908@] Re: Royalties [FallenAngel1204@aol.com] Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR [LotteP0T0@aol.com] NPR-Online Gaming-NPR ["Bad Bender" ] Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR [NoisyPollution@aol.com] Re: Final post as AP Board Member ( not quiting, term expired) [JezebeIln] Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR [LivTheMdns@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 02:51:23 -0400 From: "Michael Anderson" Subject: NPR: Dar Williams I saw Dar when she was touring in support of "End of The Summer" in either late '97 or early '98 I can't remember which, but she was excellent. I think pretty much all of her work has been great. unfortunately she hasn't been to oklahoma in a while ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 16:20:27 -0400 From: "amato" Subject: ***Please Read***State of the AP List To all Angry Psycho, For all of you that don't know who I am...I'm the list-owner of the current AP List. I can see the list is a state of chaos. This could be in part my fault for not being more involved in the List. The fact remains that I don't have the time anymore...too many things going on for me right now. The choices I'm throwing out right now is that someone comes forward and replaces me or we shut down this list and we use the one on Yahoo Group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/REALpoefans/) which is moderated by Rusty. Just keep in mind that if you choose to volunteer to administer this List...it is not a small task. You must deal with following responsibilities outlined on the following web page http://www.smoe.org/lists/policies.html. You must also have a reliable e-mail account, which will not fill up. Please send me any positive or negative feedback privately to owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org. Thank you. amato [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 13:45:27 -0700 From: "Angry Terry" Subject: Out of Chaos , Comes ORDER Angry-Psychos mailing list 1996-2002 R.I.P. Sp00k plays Bin Laden . Dan plays George Bush. Meanwhile Rusty is the EU. Choices choices choices.Were gonna end up with the Chinese,cause theyre our friends.This year.This is the continuing saga of the world stage played out on our smaller scale. Like their real world counterparts theyre prolly all in on it together.Register now.Scan This.Accept these terms.Single file. No talking.Stay in line.Submit. Obey.No thought. Consume.Rule of Law. You dont need guns.We do though. Apparently 'angry' or 'psycho' are unacceptable. As I no longer watch television , or read the local Socialist newspaper's 'entertainment ' section, and wont join a censored forum,will any Los Angeles REAL poe fan call me at 818-364-7093 in the event of a local Poe performance anytime between now and Christmas this year? Or in the event the militia or Sp00k takes over this list and it remains as it is now I'd like to know that ,too. I will miss you all,you have been my family. I never thought I would say this for the last time , but in keeping with tradition, there are 27 shopping days till Hurricane Season. And remember to sit up straight and eat your vegetables. And , in keeping with tradition , one last parting rant. The Commie Times today says that "U.S. says Iraq is developing banned arms.What is a five - -letter word that means service in the military against your will? It rhymes with what the State-Run media has made the public (4 letters). Qs and As Qs:What nation has violated 69 seperate UN Resolutions? What nation receives 4 billion a year from the U.S.?Where is Lockheed stock today? What nation are we about to start yet another manufactured war with? My reaction?Why were over 60 million dollars worth of far out-of-the-money call options against the US Dollar purchased late Thursday with only 24 hours till expiration? As: Israel.Israel.62.85 (new hi as the rest of the market crumbles! Follow the Money)Iraq. Ack. Beats me but I made 24HUNDRED per cent in one day.2 to 48. My last time to say this too...theres my 1.972c worth...was 2 c yesterday but the dollar fell 1.4 %. Why does this matter to YOU? Your 50,000 house lost 700 dollars of value yesterday.Think abouddit. Adieu, I loved you one and all , specially the angry psycho chicks, and Sp00k Off to see the worlds greatest singer , Johnette Napolitano,Palace in Hollywood. Angry Terry AT Righteous Spice Bewildered Spice Amish Stripper Spice Thoroughly Disgusted Spice Osama Benet Ramsey we all thank you for putting up with our rantings www.propagandamatrix.com The antidote to State -Run , controlled , force-fed lying rat-bastard in-on-it with George Bush and Bill Clinton even if theyre criticizing them socialist preparatory sell your soul 666 television and print 'news' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 19:31:05 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Out of Chaos , Comes ORDER In a message dated 5/4/2002 5:45:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mb882@earthlink.net writes: > Off to see the worlds greatest singer , Johnette Napolitano,Palace in > Hollywood. > Angry Terry > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heh, heh...they just played at Bogart's here in Cincinnati. I got to work "bitch door" that night and got quite friendly with their manager. Johnette was in fine form and rocked the socks of the capacity crowd. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 20:19:38 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Out of Chaos , Comes ORDER/NPR In a message dated 5/4/2002 8:08:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Peaceofpiedesign writes: > Badass! I got to see her in dallas .. it rocked so hard!! Here's a pic from > after the show ... I look like hell, but she looks GREAT! (pardon the > crappy scan) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Say, you DO look like hell...hehehehehe...well, like heck maybe. Great shirt though:-P ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 00:32:12 -0500 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: NPR- So, ummm-NPR Does this mean the list is shut down? "Clinton Sandwich : $5 of baloney and $20 in taxes." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:17:09 -0500 From: "BirdBlack" Subject: Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR Nope. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bad Bender" To: "Angry-Psychos" Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 12:32 AM Subject: NPR- So, ummm-NPR > > Does this mean the list is shut down? > > > > > "Clinton Sandwich : $5 of baloney and $20 in taxes." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 22:41:01 -0400 From: "Kristin Hazard" Subject: NPR: Royalties Hey everyone, Can anyone with any sort of music industry knowledge help out here? On average how much $ does an artist get from the sale of a cd? Thanks! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 12:48:20 -0400 From: "Conor Riley" Subject: Re: Royalties depends.. a cd is cut into a lot of different shares. the artist has the amount of shares that they contribute to the album...so lets say its Britney Spears she co-writes maybe 4 songs and she sings so she has a VERY small share of the album but someone like Ani DiFranco who owns the record company, writes the songs, produces, sings andp lays them will have a VERY big share of the album On Average the artist will make anywhere from 50 cents to a dollar per album. - -conor- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristin Hazard" To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 10:41 PM Subject: NPR: Royalties > > Hey everyone, > > Can anyone with any sort of music industry knowledge help out here? > > On average how much $ does an artist get from the sale of a cd? > > Thanks! > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:08:27 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Royalties In a message dated 5/5/2002 12:18:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, redhazard@hotmail.com writes: > Hey everyone, > > Can anyone with any sort of music industry knowledge help out here? > > On average how much $ does an artist get from the sale of a cd? > > Thanks! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can vary wildly from practically nothing to up around 60%, depending on the artist and how good a deal their agent made. It makes a great difference whether they get their cut from the gross or net profit too. If they get it off the top it amounts to a lot more $$$. It also matters a lot whether the studio and production costs come off their end or the record company's. On top of the % of total sales a band or artist gets, there is a songwriter/composer credit that is usually good for around 5% (Elton John set some kind of record when he signed a deal to get 8% for this credit). So if you do covers or don't write your own material, you don't get the songwriter/composr credit...and in a band situation, the ones who do the writing get a bigger cut because of this. Then there are the Ani DiFrancos of this world (God bless'em) who do all their own production and have their own label and handle their own distribution. They don't sell as much as a major label perhaps, but they pocket ALL the profits, which makes Ani a much wealthier artist than a lot of her contemporaries on major labels. There are also the Poes of this world (God bless them too), who essentially do all their own production and then get sort of shafted by a major label. It would be cool if Poe signed with Righteous Babe Records (Ani's label). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:09:47 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR > "Clinton Sandwich : $5 of baloney and $20 in taxes." > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bush Burger: $20 of bullshit and $10 of taxes...but the burger joint folds before they serve you. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:10:07 -0400 From: "Stephen A. Mallia" Subject: Re: Royalties 50 cents to a dollar is a lot of money. when you sell a few million CD's thats a few million dollars. But there are other aspects to take into considerations too. The artist or the band pays for alot of upfront costs too. Depending on the record contract the artist might have to flip the bill for a tour or video or some of the costs. So in the end the final dollar amount might actually be small. I saw an interview with Puddle of Mudd. They were saying they are technically broke. The don't really have much money of there own because the money from record sales and t-shirt sales goes to finance the tour and other stuff. Just something to keep in mind next time you go and download an mp3. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conor Riley" To: "Kristin Hazard" ; Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Royalties > > depends.. > a cd is cut into a lot of different shares. > the artist has the amount of shares that they contribute to the album...so > lets say its Britney Spears > > she co-writes maybe 4 songs > and she sings > so she has a VERY small share of the album > > but someone like Ani DiFranco who owns the record company, writes the songs, > produces, sings andp lays them will have a VERY big share of the album > > On Average the artist will make anywhere from 50 cents to a dollar per > album. > > -conor- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kristin Hazard" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 10:41 PM > Subject: NPR: Royalties > > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > Can anyone with any sort of music industry knowledge help out here? > > > > On average how much $ does an artist get from the sale of a cd? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 13:27:40 -0500 From: "BirdBlack" Subject: Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR Gore burger: $1.50 of soy and $30 in taxes, but so bland that people people prefer bullshit. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 1:09 PM Subject: Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR > > > "Clinton Sandwich : $5 of baloney and $20 in taxes." > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Bush Burger: $20 of bullshit and $10 of taxes...but the burger joint folds > before they serve you. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:31:44 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Royalties could tell horror stories about this shit. For example, I had frie In a message dated 5/5/2002 2:13:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sir_steve@bigfoot.com writes: > But there are other aspects to take into considerations too. The artist or > the band pays for alot of upfront costs too. Depending on the record > contract the artist might have to flip the bill for a tour or video or some > of the costs. So in the end the final dollar amount might actually be > small. I saw an interview with Puddle of Mudd. They were saying they are > technically broke. The don't really have much money of there own because > the money from record sales and t-shirt sales goes to finance the tour and > other stuff. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of bands get screwed by their manager/promoter too...for example, I had friends who were tight with Fanny, a one hit type 70s rock band. They used to sell their plane tickets and drive to gigs just to have spending money. Their rat bastard manager also had about 6 or 7 other bands. He did stuff like take a trip to Italy with his girlfriend and charge the cost to each of the bands! He told them it was for scouting out a European tour...he told all 7 of them that and charged the same trip costs to each of them, so he was making a 600% profit off the trip...all for himself! He would do things like stiff the bands with charges amounting to many thousands of dollars for cocaine. When they protested they didn't use it, he would explain that he had to use the coke to "grease up" the people he was doing business with in order to get them on tour. Another example was a famous British metal band. I think it was Deep Purple, but I am not certain. They were told the infamous "trust me" (Industry-speak for "fuck you") by their manager, who said anything they needed or wanted, just tell him and he would get it for them. Then one day one of the band members decides he wants to buy a house in London...but the manager was on a trip to Mexico or Maui or someplace and couldn't be reached...so the band member goes to the bank to take out a home loan figuring he was worth millions and could get approved easily. The bank turned him down and wouldn't say why. After many threats and even a call to a lawyer, the bank gave it up. It turned out that EVERYTHING the band thought they had was in their manager's name...even their instruments and equipment...their homes and cars...all of it. They didn't have a legal right to anything at all. They ended up having to fire the guy and sue him to get their stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:35:00 -0400 From: "Conor Riley" Subject: Re: Royalties i read that on Britney Spears's last summer tour (2000) she made a whopping 500,000 dollars a night..in the end she walked away with about 15 to 20, 000 every night after she paid vendors, the band, the venue, the security, staff and everything else..but even that isnt bad... - -conor- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen A. Mallia" To: "Conor Riley" ; "Kristin Hazard" ; Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Royalties > 50 cents to a dollar is a lot of money. when you sell a few million CD's > thats a few million dollars. > > But there are other aspects to take into considerations too. The artist or > the band pays for alot of upfront costs too. Depending on the record > contract the artist might have to flip the bill for a tour or video or some > of the costs. So in the end the final dollar amount might actually be > small. I saw an interview with Puddle of Mudd. They were saying they are > technically broke. The don't really have much money of there own because > the money from record sales and t-shirt sales goes to finance the tour and > other stuff. > > Just something to keep in mind next time you go and download an mp3. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Conor Riley" > To: "Kristin Hazard" ; > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 12:48 PM > Subject: Re: Royalties > > > > > > depends.. > > a cd is cut into a lot of different shares. > > the artist has the amount of shares that they contribute to the album...so > > lets say its Britney Spears > > > > she co-writes maybe 4 songs > > and she sings > > so she has a VERY small share of the album > > > > but someone like Ani DiFranco who owns the record company, writes the > songs, > > produces, sings andp lays them will have a VERY big share of the album > > > > On Average the artist will make anywhere from 50 cents to a dollar per > > album. > > > > -conor- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kristin Hazard" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 10:41 PM > > Subject: NPR: Royalties > > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > > > Can anyone with any sort of music industry knowledge help out here? > > > > > > On average how much $ does an artist get from the sale of a cd? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:35:47 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR In a message dated 5/5/2002 2:27:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, a_modern_man@hotmail.com writes: > Gore burger: $1.50 of soy and $30 in taxes, but so bland that people people > prefer bullshit. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or at least many of them think they do...but still more opt for the soy and taxes, so they have it yanked out of their hand and are force-fed the Bush Burger. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:34:10 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Final post as AP Board Member ( not quiting, term expired) First I would like to thank you all for the fun parts of building this community. I have tried to do whatever I can to help provide a place we all can enjoy. Since 1996 the Angry Psychos have had Poe's back, we have always been there for her and she has always been there for us! But we let her down!!! For the last 7 months somebody has silenced her. And we don't even know who it IS!!! But I look at our Queen's throne and it sits empty, dust collecting. I listen for her voice, and except its echoes, I hear it not. Someone or something has captured our Queen!! Now the battle has become so severe they would even destroy US! The subversives have us fighting among ourselves...divide and conquer at work and we almost let it happen! It stops NOW! We are at war. We have had to declare martial law on the BBS. For the duration of this war to liberate TRUTH and restore our beloved Queen, the Mistress of Groove to her throne, there will NOT be freedom of speech! During this moratorium on freedom of speech the remaining admins will review posts by those who would disrupt the war effort and have the author rewrite them or perhaps even reject them. For the duration of the war, freedom of speech must be restricted, much as it is in more traditional wars between countries. I, with this post, remove myself from the Admin position on the BBS, I will post only as Poetic, just another user on the BBS. I also will not serve on the AP Board until new elections are held IF I am asked to serve again. I want nobody to think I am censoring, I want no one to look for my "hidden agenda", my agenda is open, it is public ...I want to know who has silenced Poe and who is attacking the very relationship we have so enjoyed,! These forces would take our very NAME! We are Angry Psychos!! We are PROUD of that name! Some have feared the Angry portion (myself included), but it is a part of us. Now they would even take away our Psycho status (REALpoefans ??? Sounds like a Brittney club to me!) We are Angry Psychos.... we are PROUD Angry Psychos! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 20:01:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR The list is not shut down... We are just shifting responsibility from amato to... ******************************************************************* JK/// Jarrod Kniff Cyberfan Corporation jarrod@cyberfan.com ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* On Sun, 5 May 2002, Bad Bender wrote: > > Does this mean the list is shut down? > > > > > "Clinton Sandwich : $5 of baloney and $20 in taxes." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 20:11:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: Re: Royalties I would gladly accept 15-20 K a night, for people to kiss my ass. ;-) *** I then grew to appreciate the world and understood that people kiss ass for free. The money is a byproduct of existence... ******************************************************************* JK/// Jarrod Kniff Cyberfan Corporation jarrod@cyberfan.com ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* On Sun, 5 May 2002, Conor Riley wrote: > > i read that on Britney Spears's last summer tour (2000) she made a whopping > 500,000 dollars a night..in the end she walked away with about 15 to 20, 000 > every night after she paid vendors, the band, the venue, the security, staff > and everything else..but even that isnt bad... > > -conor- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen A. Mallia" > To: "Conor Riley" ; "Kristin Hazard" > ; > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 2:10 PM > Subject: Re: Royalties > > > > 50 cents to a dollar is a lot of money. when you sell a few million CD's > > thats a few million dollars. > > > > But there are other aspects to take into considerations too. The artist > or > > the band pays for alot of upfront costs too. Depending on the record > > contract the artist might have to flip the bill for a tour or video or > some > > of the costs. So in the end the final dollar amount might actually be > > small. I saw an interview with Puddle of Mudd. They were saying they are > > technically broke. The don't really have much money of there own because > > the money from record sales and t-shirt sales goes to finance the tour and > > other stuff. > > > > Just something to keep in mind next time you go and download an mp3. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Conor Riley" > > To: "Kristin Hazard" ; > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 12:48 PM > > Subject: Re: Royalties > > > > > > > > > > depends.. > > > a cd is cut into a lot of different shares. > > > the artist has the amount of shares that they contribute to the > album...so > > > lets say its Britney Spears > > > > > > she co-writes maybe 4 songs > > > and she sings > > > so she has a VERY small share of the album > > > > > > but someone like Ani DiFranco who owns the record company, writes the > > songs, > > > produces, sings andp lays them will have a VERY big share of the album > > > > > > On Average the artist will make anywhere from 50 cents to a dollar per > > > album. > > > > > > -conor- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kristin Hazard" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 10:41 PM > > > Subject: NPR: Royalties > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > > > > > Can anyone with any sort of music industry knowledge help out here? > > > > > > > > On average how much $ does an artist get from the sale of a cd? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click > Here ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 20:18:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR wow... that sounded weird... *** I don't want the full responsibility - but I will assist AP Inc. with an email account, etc. So everybody sitting on the board at any given time will have the responsibility to watch the list and monitor activity. *** *** Hang Tough Poetic ******************************************************************* JK/// Jarrod Kniff Cyberfan Corporation jarrod@cyberfan.com ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* On Sun, 5 May 2002, Cyberfan Corporation wrote: > > The list is not shut down... We are just shifting responsibility from > amato to... > > > ******************************************************************* > > JK/// > Jarrod Kniff > Cyberfan Corporation > jarrod@cyberfan.com > > ******************************************************************* > > ******************************************************************* > On Sun, 5 May 2002, Bad Bender wrote: > > > > > Does this mean the list is shut down? > > > > > > > > > > "Clinton Sandwich : $5 of baloney and $20 in taxes." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 15:22:27 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR Hello Jarrod, In reference to your comment: h The list is not shut down... We are just shifting h responsibility from amato to... Since your comment was left open ended, may I suggest that the rosponsibility is being CONTINUED by the Angry Psychos as a unit thru THEIR corporate structure...another benefit of having incorporated. The advantage of a corporation is that it lives forever, or until the members of the corporation decide to kill it. I theory long after Jarrod, myself, or the youngest member on the list now is gone the list can continue to operate under the guidence of a Board of Directors elected by ALL of the Angry Psychos. This is , to my knowledge, the first and last time that "ownership" ( for those not familiar, that just means the one responsible to keep it running) of the AP list will change hands. Now it will be "owned" by all of us. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 15:59:45 -0400 From: "Conor Riley" Subject: Re: Final post as AP Board Member ( not quiting, term expired) so who gets your spot as admin? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 2:34 PM Subject: Final post as AP Board Member ( not quiting, term expired) > > First I would like to thank you all for the fun parts of building this > community. I have tried to do whatever I can to help provide a place we all > can enjoy. > > Since 1996 the Angry Psychos have had Poe's back, we have always been there > for her and she has always been there for us! But we let her down!!! > > For the last 7 months somebody has silenced her. And we don't even know who > it IS!!! But I look at our Queen's throne and it sits empty, dust > collecting. I listen for her voice, and except its echoes, I hear it not. > > Someone or something has captured our Queen!! > > Now the battle has become so severe they would even destroy US! The > subversives have us fighting among ourselves...divide and conquer at work and > we almost let it happen! > > It stops NOW! We are at war. We have had to declare martial law on the BBS. > For the duration of this war to liberate TRUTH and restore our beloved > Queen, the Mistress of Groove to her throne, there will NOT be freedom of > speech! > > During this moratorium on freedom of speech the remaining admins will review > posts by those who would disrupt the war effort and have the author rewrite > them or perhaps even reject them. For the duration of the war, freedom of > speech must be restricted, much as it is in more traditional wars between > countries. > > I, with this post, remove myself from the Admin position on the BBS, I will > post only as Poetic, just another user on the BBS. I also will not serve on > the AP Board until new elections are held IF I am asked to serve again. > > I want nobody to think I am censoring, I want no one to look for my "hidden > agenda", my agenda is open, it is public ...I want to know who has silenced > Poe and who is attacking the very relationship we have so enjoyed,! > > These forces would take our very NAME! We are Angry Psychos!! We are PROUD > of that name! Some have feared the Angry portion (myself included), but it > is a part of us. > > Now they would even take away our Psycho status (REALpoefans ??? Sounds like > a Brittney club to me!) We are Angry Psychos.... we are PROUD Angry Psychos! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 16:24:38 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: Final post as AP Board Member ( not quiting, term expired) Hello conor@rochester.rr.com, In reference to your comment: h so who gets your spot as admin? This is a BBS question answered on the BBS. I will answer privately. While the two are related, we have been asked ( correctly in my opinion) to keep BBS specific stuff on the BBS. We will attempt to do so. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 17:23:25 EDT From: FallenAngel1204@aol.com Subject: Re: Royalties In a message dated 5/5/2002 2:34:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, conor@rochester.rr.com writes: > i read that on Britney Spears's last summer tour (2000) she made a whopping > 500,000 dollars a night..in the end she walked away with about 15 to 20, 000 > every night after she paid vendors, the band, the venue, the security, staff > and everything else..but even that isnt bad... > haha.. I'd say that isnt bad.. consider the kind of shit all of us do for a living that is trying, laborious work.. and work that we hate. (at least she enjoys performing.) If we worked at a pay rate of 5.15 an hour (min. wage) for 12 hours, we just made $61.80 before tax. You could pay me 15-20 grand for a days work. That'd be okay with me. I'd sing and dance til I keeled over. haha ~I'll give back your pogo stick as soon as you return my wasted time.~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 17:30:12 EDT From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR Warning: Completely pointless post ahead. The person that calculated the Bush burger forgot to add in the ignorance (grammar ignorance, geographic ignorance, religious ignorance, etc...). That could add up to a large part of the bill ;-) Lindsay ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ http://www.pagancities.com/blueroses "With you there's no easy answer--it's true--you change the equation I add up to. And all of the things that I thought I knew--you turn it around...I'm amazed...When push comes to shove what I'd give to you--everything...I'm amazed..." - --POE, Amazed "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 16:53:01 -0500 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: NPR-Online Gaming-NPR Hell yeah! Get the game, my screen name is BadBender. The game allows you to make teams (they call it clans). Right now I'm the sole member of the Angry Psycho Ward clan, APW for short. I'm sporting a modest 15 kills for one death ratio right now. As soon as I can find a cheap router I'll be playing my XBox on-line as well. Game on! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Larsen" To: Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 4:28 PM Subject: Re: NPR-Online Gaming-NPR > > Het there cap'n. > I am getting a broadband connection within the next month or so, and C&C:R > was one of the games I was intrested in picking up... > If you still want people to play with, I'd love to in a monthish! > I'd say lets do it now, but our phone connection is terrible. > I've gone through 3 different internal and to external modems and it is > really the phone line itself. Bummer I know... but if you want man, I'm > in. > Just let me know if thats cool, so I can pick up that game sooner instead of > later. > See-ya. > > >From: "Bad Bender" > >To: "Angry-Psychos" > >Subject: NPR-Online Gaming-NPR > >Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 23:48:07 -0500 > > > > > >Ok you PC gaming APs, are any of you currently playing Command & Conquer: > >Renegade online? It's a fun FPS set in the original CnC game. I'm asking > >because you can make your own "clan" or group. I'd love to team up with > >some > >AP's and wipe out the enemy together. If you are, or are curious about it > >just > >ask me, I check email many times daily. > > > > > > > > > > > >"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both." > >- > >Barr > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 18:51:00 EDT From: NoisyPollution@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR In a message dated 5/5/02 4:35:01 PM Central Daylight Time, LotteP0T0@aol.com writes: > > The person that calculated the Bush burger forgot to add in the ignorance > (grammar ignorance, geographic ignorance, religious ignorance, etc...). > That > I would assume that the burger is greasy and oily from the drilled Alaskan oil they added on top of the bun. Peace }}Y{{eLissA - - These people (Britney, NSync..) are about as deep as a bird bath- David Crosby ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 19:43:40 EDT From: JezebeIlnHeII@aol.com Subject: Re: Final post as AP Board Member ( not quiting, term expired) GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! Okay, I have silently deleted hoardes of email while reading only enuf to get a glimpse of what is going on. I am aware that there is a conflict between Dan and Sp00k ( suprise, suprise) amd that the fate of the mailing list is up in the air. What I don't understand is why people run away ?! Dan, you are my friend, so please forgive my comments if you don't like them. Why do you always run away ? It PISSES me off !!! You dive headfirst into every situation .. and then apologize and leave when it gets hot? Why the hell do you do that ? So everyone doesn't agree... so WHAT ??? You have your own vision ... your own way to support Poe. Go with it.. and screw anyone who tells you how you SHOULD be doing it. Final post ?? ( you posted after that, by the way) . You have every right to express what you want to here. If people don't like it.. they can DELETE! As for Sp00k ... another member I greatly admire. Who else has the balls to say exactly what they feel ? I don't have to agree with everything posted, but I sure as hell support the right to be heard. There is never any guess work or bullshit.. just the world accoprding to Sp00k. He has a right to express himself any way he chooses. If people don't like it, they can DELETE! The one thing I cannot stand is people who constantly post that they are leaving the list because they don't like so and so. Good riddance. Geez.. we are not ONLY Poe fans. We are a large group of individuals with a variety of opinions and personalities. Take what you want and leave the rest. Does everything have to be so damn personal? As for the list.. I would hate to see it turned over to anyone. I like our silent " moderator" who lets the list simply exist. Leave it alone... it all works out in the end. ~jez ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 21:21:15 EDT From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR- So, ummm-NPR In a message dated 5/5/2002 11:31:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, a_modern_man@hotmail.com writes: > Gore burger: $1.50 of soy and $30 in taxes, but so bland that people people > prefer bullshit. The Enron burger... $0.50 worth of burger, which is then floated to another burger joint and sold as $.075 worth of burger. This burger is then passed around several hundred times in the period of a second, each time adding price but no meat. In the end you are presented with a $50.95 burger that is actually a $0.50 burger. Due to the restaraunt manager (the nerdy but loveable Artie Anderson) there is $0.00 worth of tax, and you sometimes get a refund. The patrons pay for your bullshit. Eventually all the burger flippers go to prison, and get acquainted with burritos. - -My post for the month ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V7 #131 ***********************************