From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V7 #112 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Tuesday, April 23 2002 Volume 07 : Number 112 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Klez virus [Spidersrcute2@aol.com] Re: NPR - Kletz Virus ["sp00k@poe.org" ] NPR Oxygen Struggling for Ratings ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: angry-psychos-digest V7 #111 [Dracovixen@aol.com] Re: angry-psychos-digest V7 #111 [Dracovixen@aol.com] Re: atalntic [Dracovixen@aol.com] Re: NPR Oxygen Struggling for Ratings [Uhura Bisa Jones ] Re: NPR Oxygen Struggling for Ratings [NoisyPollution@aol.com] Re: Intorducing myself [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Intorducing myself [Andrea Horvath ] Re: NPR Oxygen Struggling for Ratings ["Anna S" ] Re: Intorducing myself [jason blakely ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 02:03:51 EDT From: Spidersrcute2@aol.com Subject: Re: Klez virus Yep I get the wonderful attachments too. I delete everything that isn't from a friend or from this list. That's the only way to go. I'll have to read up on it, see how to identify it. So far my antivirus software hasn't detected anything awry. will see. Later!! Tracie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 06:48:48 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: NPR - Kletz Virus Believe it or not. I have NEVER installed an anti virus program ON my machine in over 10 years of using computers for telecommunications. I do visit http://antivirus.com where I scan files individualy for buggies, or have my entire system cheked. I do NOT open file attachements, that are .exe .vbs .com, etc... even after scanning, I scan mostly to bust people for sending me viruses. If it is a .txt or a .jpg or .gif from someone I know I will open it. There is currently a message going around that is allegedly from "Microsoft Security" with a browswer security update attachment, that of course is a virus. Have a nice day. sp00k etc ... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cyberfan Corporation" To: Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 12:54 AM Subject: NPR - Kletz Virus > > Yes, that would be the Klez virus. It uses different subjects and body > messages to get you to open the attachment. Don't open those attachments. > > Here is a page from Mcafee (Network Associates) : > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99367.htm > > > > On The Fly wrote: > > >I am suddenly getting a bunch of large attachments from various people... > >Is this happening to all the list members??? > > > >Laura > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > ******************************************************************* > > JK/// > Jarrod Kniff > Cyberfan Corporation > jarrod@cyberfan.com > > ******************************************************************* > > ******************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 08:36:47 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: NPR Oxygen Struggling for Ratings Hey ladies what's uP you have your own TV network and it is failing? I wonder how an all mens programming network would do, imagine the content.... I will pass on the "all networks ARE programed by and for white men" thank you. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/22/business/media/22TUBE.html | By JIM RUTENBERG Executives at Oxygen, the cable network that promised to revolutionize television for women when it made its debut two years ago, have taken issue with smart-alecky assessments that it is "gasping for air." But the network - whose founders include the Nickelodeon pioneer Geraldine Laybourne and Oprah Winfrey - does seem to be gasping for ratings. And if the revolution is indeed being televised, very few people are watching. Monthly data available from Nielsen Media Research for the first time in Oxygen's history show results far below what its executives - and industry analysts - expected when the network began in early 2000. According to March Nielsen figures, Oxygen is watched each day in an average of only 26,000 households, less than 0.1 percent of the nearly 40 million households that receive it nationwide. In the evenings, its ratings are slightly better, and an average of 52,000 households tune in. But Oxygen still ranks among the lowest of the regularly monitored television networks, far below cable outlets like the Travel Channel and Country Music Television. Oxygen's troubled start has by now been fairly well documented. Its initial program schedule, which included an amateurish "Pajama Party" talk show and an au courant (some said forced) afternoon show for teenagers, "Trackers," was widely panned. Gary Dunkin for The New York Times Geraldine Laybourne is chief of Oxygen, which has retooled its offerings. Some say it is too early to have seen the results of that effort. Getting distribution on cable systems took longer than expected, particularly in New York. And the pricey gambit of fully integrating its television programming with the Internet all but fizzled when Oxygen was forced to close several sites and backtrack from its ambitious e-commerce goals. But the Nielsen figures provide the first official scorecard of how audiences are taking to its programming. The miniscule audience numbers were surprising to long-time television industry analysts. "Barely a heartbeat - if it was any lower it would be a hash mark," said one; Another said the network's viewership "hardly registers a ripple in the pond." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/22/business/media/22TUBE.html | Click above for the rest of the story. sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://UnitedChats.Com ================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 08:50:23 -0400 From: "Anna Serlengo" Subject: Re: NPR Oxygen Struggling for Ratings This agravates me too. But i never even heard it being a tv station thats how word of mouth never caught this one... I think life time rocks... but they dont have enough shows dedicated to women like talk, but not boring talk I think it should be an extra HBO channel.. and spunk it up.. Make all diff kinds of shows to apeal to all ranges.. Something that will grasp a women.. You know raw and real.. Oh and if any of you ladies are intersted I posted this before I"m making a site for women about ANGST, and diff issues.. SOOOO.. please write me at womensangst@yahoo.com and I'll give you more info on what were doing, how you can help, and that it will be done soon... Anna - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "sp00k@poe.org" Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 08:36:47 -0400 > >Hey ladies what's uP you have your own TV network and it is failing? > >I wonder how an all mens programming network would do, imagine the >content.... > >I will pass on the "all networks ARE programed by and for white men" thank you. > >http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/22/business/media/22TUBE.html | > >By JIM RUTENBERG > >Executives at Oxygen, the cable network that promised to revolutionize television for women when it made its debut two years ago, >have taken issue with smart-alecky assessments that it is "gasping for air." > >But the network - whose founders include the Nickelodeon pioneer Geraldine Laybourne and Oprah Winfrey - does seem to be gasping for >ratings. And if the revolution is indeed being televised, very few people are watching. > >Monthly data available from Nielsen Media Research for the first time in Oxygen's history show results far below what its >executives - and industry analysts - expected when the network began in early 2000. > >According to March Nielsen figures, Oxygen is watched each day in an average of only 26,000 households, less than 0.1 percent of the >nearly 40 million households that receive it nationwide. > >In the evenings, its ratings are slightly better, and an average of 52,000 households tune in. But Oxygen still ranks among the >lowest of the regularly monitored television networks, far below cable outlets like the Travel Channel and Country Music Television. > >Oxygen's troubled start has by now been fairly well documented. Its initial program schedule, which included an amateurish "Pajama >Party" talk show and an au courant (some said forced) afternoon show for teenagers, "Trackers," was widely panned. > >Gary Dunkin for The New York Times >Geraldine Laybourne is chief of Oxygen, which has retooled its offerings. Some say it is too early to have seen the results of that >effort. > >Getting distribution on cable systems took longer than expected, particularly in New York. And the pricey gambit of fully >integrating its television programming with the Internet all but fizzled when Oxygen was forced to close several sites and backtrack >from its ambitious e-commerce goals. > >But the Nielsen figures provide the first official scorecard of how audiences are taking to its programming. The miniscule audience >numbers were surprising to long-time television industry analysts. "Barely a heartbeat - if it was any lower it would be a hash >mark," said one; Another said the network's viewership "hardly registers a ripple in the pond." > >http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/22/business/media/22TUBE.html | > >Click above for the rest of the story. > >sp00k etc ... >Http://Poe.Org >Http://UnitedChats.Com >================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:38:00 EDT From: VioletNightSky@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Oxygen Struggling for Ratings Actually, there is an HBO that although does not directly say it, is supposed to be catered for women. It's called HBO Signature, and my wonderful wonderful school, who graciously decided to provide its students with not one, not two, but three HBOs, does provide HBO signature on channel 18. It's pretty good...mostly love stories, indies, and the such. But hey, between HBO, HBO 2 (or is it plus...), and HBO signature, there's always something on TV. ~Cara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:03:12 EDT From: CountingSpiders@aol.com Subject: Re: Top 10 reasons ATLANTIC records sucks << The Tori DVD>> well why dont you just save money and get it on VHS.. and dont gimme the excuse you dont have a VCR. >> i don't know about everyone else (and i won't speak for them) but i have the godamn thing on vhs. i ran out and bought it the day it came out. but if it came out on DVD, not only would i gladly go do the same thing once more, but i would probably watch it a lot more often. sure, i have a vcr, but it's a dead technology...and money really has nothing to do with it anyway. generally, dvd's are on sale for two-three dollars more than the cassette copy (and that's to say it's even made on video)...and christ, think back four or five years before dvd came onto the scene so big - -- videos were then about the price that dvd's are now...the only reason they HAVE gone down is because they're slowly but surely becoming dinosaurs. i'm not trying to be an ass, conor, i just do have to agree that it would be cool to sooner or later have all these years of videos we've all poured our money into replaced. furthermore, sure, the tori video collection probably didn't sell too well in the first place (and that's the reason it's not being redone) but i've seen similar situations with other artists and they've taken preorders and only printed what needed to be made. that removes the chance of billions of extra cutout copies lying around. and you know why THAT would never happen? because on major labels (like atlantic) they don't give a fuck about the fans, or the artist...unless they're making them major, major money. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:29:55 -0400 From: Subject: WAS: Re: Top 10 reasons... NOW: NPR: tori amos video collection >>Tori DVD well why dont you just save money and >>get it on VHS.. and dont gimme the excuse you >>dont have a VCR. >i don't know about everyone else (and i won't >speak for them) but i have the godamn thing on >vhs. i ran out and bought it the day it came >out. but if it came out on DVD, not only would i >gladly go do the same thing once more, but i >would probably watch it a lot more often. ALSO... when the DVD was first announced for release, it was to include the newer videos from the "to venus and back" album that were not on the VHS (as it was released before this album). - -rusty www.rustyshelby.cjb.net www.484music.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:56:50 -0400 From: Subject: WAS: Re: Top 10 reasons.. NOW: conjure one Yes, i agree... the split between atlantic & poe was for the best... NOW... with this conjure one project due in july. remember what delerium did for sarah mclachlan with their "silence" track??? it was a HUGE hit. is the same happens with poe/conure one... it could be VERY good news! - -rusty www.484music.com www.rustyshelby.cjb.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:22:44 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V7 #111 In a message dated 4/22/02 1:31:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: << #4: they dropped tori amos >> No, they didn't drop Tori Amos. She was at the end of the contract (reason why Strange Little Girls was a cover album as opposed to new material), and she chose not to renew her contract, and left for Epic. Just had to clear that up as a rabid fan. :) Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:23:18 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V7 #111 In a message dated 4/22/02 1:31:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: << #2: they NEVER released tori amos' video collection on DVD >> That entirely pisses me off to this very moment. Assholes. And what the hell was all that shit with her single? Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:25:28 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: atalntic In a message dated 4/22/02 1:31:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: << The Tori DVD>>well why dont you just save money and get it on VHS.. and dont gimme the excuse you dont have a VCR. >> She coulds, but the VHS is missing three things: Bliss, 1000 Oceans, and Glory of the 80's. Four things, if you include Strange Little Girl. The DVD was supposed to include the To Venus and Back videos. This is why we are griping about it. Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:20:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Uhura Bisa Jones Subject: Re: NPR Oxygen Struggling for Ratings I watch it. They have great movie offerings, from Kevin Smith flicks to Priscilla Queen of the Desert to classics such as All About Eve. Plus Steve Ross hosts a great yoga show in the mornings. Some of the shows are good, but I've never watched for an entire day so I couldn't really comment on the overall quality of the lineup. It's certainly better than the "All Victim's Network" i.e., Lifetime, which constantly perpetuates stereotypes of women without forging any new ground. I like the Oxygen channel because it doesn't seem to try and have one "type" of "Women's Programming".The channel recognizes that not all women enjoy the same types of things - that for every Weepy Wendy there's an Action Allison or Comedic Cindy. Lifetime tries too hard to be the inspirational, against all odds cheerleading against victimhood types, with lots of cliched plots involving rape, mother-defending-her-young, and women-suffers-abusive-relationships-while-fighting-archaic-patriarchal-court-system. It's so hard to be fresh, different, and revolutionary. Most people don't want their boat rocked. Instead they wanna continue to sail the same old safe, familiar waters - no matter how close minded and stifling they are. Plus, in these troubled political times, most people *Want* confort. They want the same things they've always known. Oxygen is probably doomed. It was fun while it lasted. Uhura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:22:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Uhura Bisa Jones Subject: Re: NPR Oxygen Struggling for Ratings Why is your project just about women's Angst? Isn't there enough content out there about how hard and sacrificing it is to be a woman in the world? The project seems interesting, I just can't figure out what your message is. U. On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Anna Serlengo wrote: > > This agravates me too. But i never even heard it being a tv station thats how word of mouth never caught this one... > > I think life time rocks... but they dont have enough shows dedicated to women like talk, but not boring talk > > I think it should be an extra HBO channel.. and spunk it up.. Make all diff kinds of shows to apeal to all ranges.. Something that will grasp a women.. You know raw and real.. > > Oh and if any of you ladies are intersted I posted this before I"m making a site for women about ANGST, and diff issues.. SOOOO.. please write me at womensangst@yahoo.com and I'll give you more info on what were doing, how you can help, and that it will be done soon... > > Anna > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "sp00k@poe.org" > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 08:36:47 -0400 > > > > >Hey ladies what's uP you have your own TV network and it is failing? > > > >I wonder how an all mens programming network would do, imagine the > >content.... > > > >I will pass on the "all networks ARE programed by and for white men" thank you. > > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/22/business/media/22TUBE.html | > > > >By JIM RUTENBERG > > > >Executives at Oxygen, the cable network that promised to revolutionize television for women when it made its debut two years ago, > >have taken issue with smart-alecky assessments that it is "gasping for air." > > > >But the network - whose founders include the Nickelodeon pioneer Geraldine Laybourne and Oprah Winfrey - does seem to be gasping for > >ratings. And if the revolution is indeed being televised, very few people are watching. > > > >Monthly data available from Nielsen Media Research for the first time in Oxygen's history show results far below what its > >executives - and industry analysts - expected when the network began in early 2000. > > > >According to March Nielsen figures, Oxygen is watched each day in an average of only 26,000 households, less than 0.1 percent of the > >nearly 40 million households that receive it nationwide. > > > >In the evenings, its ratings are slightly better, and an average of 52,000 households tune in. But Oxygen still ranks among the > >lowest of the regularly monitored television networks, far below cable outlets like the Travel Channel and Country Music Television. > > > >Oxygen's troubled start has by now been fairly well documented. Its initial program schedule, which included an amateurish "Pajama > >Party" talk show and an au courant (some said forced) afternoon show for teenagers, "Trackers," was widely panned. > > > >Gary Dunkin for The New York Times > >Geraldine Laybourne is chief of Oxygen, which has retooled its offerings. Some say it is too early to have seen the results of that > >effort. > > > >Getting distribution on cable systems took longer than expected, particularly in New York. And the pricey gambit of fully > >integrating its television programming with the Internet all but fizzled when Oxygen was forced to close several sites and backtrack > >from its ambitious e-commerce goals. > > > >But the Nielsen figures provide the first official scorecard of how audiences are taking to its programming. The miniscule audience > >numbers were surprising to long-time television industry analysts. "Barely a heartbeat - if it was any lower it would be a hash > >mark," said one; Another said the network's viewership "hardly registers a ripple in the pond." > > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/22/business/media/22TUBE.html | > > > >Click above for the rest of the story. > > > >sp00k etc ... > >Http://Poe.Org > >Http://UnitedChats.Com > >================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:15:58 -0500 From: "jayson g" Subject: Re: NPR Oxygen Struggling for Ratings Does anyone else have a Neilson's Box on the back of their tube? Ever since I've got one I've found myself VERY picky (almost frighteningly) about what my television is tuned in to. For instance, I REFUSE to give any ratings to MTV's non-music related shows (although MTV2 is always on), or any of those ridiculous Survivor-type "reality" shows. One time I left the TV on while I was taking a shower and when I got out I had to frantically race across the living room dripping wet to change the channel because I had accidentally left it on while Full House was playing. My friends think I'm nuts. I'm beginning to believe them... ... >From: Uhura Bisa Jones >To: Anna Serlengo >CC: angry psychos , "sp00k@poe.org" > >Subject: Re: NPR Oxygen Struggling for Ratings >Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:22:08 -0700 (PDT) > > >Why is your project just about women's Angst? Isn't there enough content >out there about how hard and sacrificing it is to be a woman in the >world? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:58:18 EDT From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: Re: "Panic Room" reference to Poe Haha! Yeah...it was posted a little while ago. I'm glad I was forwarned though so I didnt start jumping up and down at the theatre! ;) ~Gypsy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:51:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrea Horvath Subject: Intorducing myself a. Now that you are an Angry Psycho, we would love to know: (1) Who you are?, Call me Dre. (2) Where you're from?, Palo Alto, CA (3) How old you are?, 16 (4) Where you first heard Poe?, about a year ago on th radio I heard the drive by remix of hey pretty. My friend got Haunted and I immediatly fell in love with her music!!! I soon after bought Hello and after that it was a downward spiral into obsession!! (5) What other musicians do you listen to? The Cardigans, Sarah McLachlan, A Camp, Nelly Furtado, U2, Train, Plumb, Eve's Plum, Sublime, Garbage, Alanis Morisette... but I'm nowhere near as obsessed with any of them as with Poe!!! and (6) Any other interesting information you wish to share. I'm a little nervous to join this list, cuz I'm under the impression that this is real exclusive, you guys are prolly all WAY more obsessed with Poe than me. I've never even been to one of her concerts (I missed her when she came to shoreline with DM, I was on vacation and I was sooo mad!!) It's just that the people on the message boards I frequent don't know enough!! Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:50:54 EDT From: NoisyPollution@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Oxygen Struggling for Ratings In a message dated 4/22/02 2:21:56 PM Central Daylight Time, jonesu@cc.wwu.edu writes: > I watch it. They have great movie offerings, from Kevin Smith flicks to > Speaking of Kevin Smith, did anyone catch him on Space Ghost last night? I missed it! Anyone care to fill me in? Thanks! peace, }}Y{{eLissA - - These people (Britney, NSync..) are about as deep as a bird bath- David Crosby ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 18:16:07 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Intorducing myself In a message dated 4/22/2002 5:53:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, flydredragonfly6@yahoo.com writes: > (6) Any other interesting information you wish to > share. > I'm a little nervous to join this list, cuz I'm under > the impression that this is real exclusive, you guys > are prolly all WAY more obsessed with Poe than me. > I've never even been to one of her concerts (I missed > her when she came to shoreline with DM, I was on > vacation and I was sooo mad!!) It's just that the > people on the message boards I frequent don't know enough!! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to the Angry Psychos, Keed. And remember, we don't need no stinking badges! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 19:07:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrea Horvath Subject: Re: Intorducing myself >Welcome to the Angry Psychos, Keed. And remember, we >don't need no stinking badges! Thanks, I'm glad to be here :) Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:24:20 -0400 From: "Anna S" Subject: Re: NPR Oxygen Struggling for Ratings Yes there is a lot of angst stuff out there, but its all spread all over. I really have no where to go to see what its like to struggle with many issues ranging from anything, check out how people made it though rough times.. Writing, music poems so on are great releasers of angst. and if its one more site added (WHICH I HAVENT SEEN many so be it...) if i can help women express themselves and so on i'm glad... Copy of outline below __________________________________________ Women's Angst Women need a community that says it's ok to have angst and it's even better to release it. 7 Women angst poems 7 Women's angst short stories True& Fictional 7 Women WHO ROCK female vocalist 7 Women WHO ROCK female authors 7 Women WHO ROCK female icons 7 Release your angst on our Message Board 7 Our recommendation for help of a variety of topics 7 Our tips of the month 7 Men who have a grasp on Angst 7 Yoga/Exercise/eating and other releasers of angst Finally a place for women to gather, and release there AGNST. Here at WOMEN' S ANGST . You can read personal stories, poems, message board postings about women who like yourself have daily struggles, and through reading you find out how they managed, and hung in there. We cover a wide variety of topics from the simplest of headaches, to more serious issues of abuse. . As well as writing angst sections There are sections dedicated give you some pointers on how to keep fit, how to manage stress, how to find this information on the web. We suggest solutions to everyday annoyances that may be affecting you... This site should give you a Women Magazine feel, but it' s more personalized then that. You can post us your stories, your poems, and will listen, or just chat through our message board. You can find the help you need. You can come here and release your angst... Cause we all have angst over something! And "yes" its all about us the women. I like to promote "women music" so please check out that section. Also section for women icons, and authors. ***************copy of outline************** - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Uhura Bisa Jones" To: "Anna Serlengo" Cc: "angry psychos" ; "sp00k@poe.org" Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:22 PM Subject: Re: NPR Oxygen Struggling for Ratings > Why is your project just about women's Angst? Isn't there enough content > out there about how hard and sacrificing it is to be a woman in the > world? The project seems interesting, I just can't figure out what your > message is. > > U. > > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Anna Serlengo wrote: > > > > > This agravates me too. But i never even heard it being a tv station thats how word of mouth never caught this one... > > > > I think life time rocks... but they dont have enough shows dedicated to women like talk, but not boring talk > > > > I think it should be an extra HBO channel.. and spunk it up.. Make all diff kinds of shows to apeal to all ranges.. Something that will grasp a women.. You know raw and real.. > > > > Oh and if any of you ladies are intersted I posted this before I"m making a site for women about ANGST, and diff issues.. SOOOO.. please write me at womensangst@yahoo.com and I'll give you more info on what were doing, how you can help, and that it will be done soon... > > > > Anna > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > > From: "sp00k@poe.org" > > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 08:36:47 -0400 > > > > > > > >Hey ladies what's uP you have your own TV network and it is failing? > > > > > >I wonder how an all mens programming network would do, imagine the > > >content.... > > > > > >I will pass on the "all networks ARE programed by and for white men" thank you. > > > > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/22/business/media/22TUBE.html | > > > > > >By JIM RUTENBERG > > > > > >Executives at Oxygen, the cable network that promised to revolutionize television for women when it made its debut two years ago, > > >have taken issue with smart-alecky assessments that it is "gasping for air." > > > > > >But the network - whose founders include the Nickelodeon pioneer Geraldine Laybourne and Oprah Winfrey - does seem to be gasping for > > >ratings. And if the revolution is indeed being televised, very few people are watching. > > > > > >Monthly data available from Nielsen Media Research for the first time in Oxygen's history show results far below what its > > >executives - and industry analysts - expected when the network began in early 2000. > > > > > >According to March Nielsen figures, Oxygen is watched each day in an average of only 26,000 households, less than 0.1 percent of the > > >nearly 40 million households that receive it nationwide. > > > > > >In the evenings, its ratings are slightly better, and an average of 52,000 households tune in. But Oxygen still ranks among the > > >lowest of the regularly monitored television networks, far below cable outlets like the Travel Channel and Country Music Television. > > > > > >Oxygen's troubled start has by now been fairly well documented. Its initial program schedule, which included an amateurish "Pajama > > >Party" talk show and an au courant (some said forced) afternoon show for teenagers, "Trackers," was widely panned. > > > > > >Gary Dunkin for The New York Times > > >Geraldine Laybourne is chief of Oxygen, which has retooled its offerings. Some say it is too early to have seen the results of that > > >effort. > > > > > >Getting distribution on cable systems took longer than expected, particularly in New York. And the pricey gambit of fully > > >integrating its television programming with the Internet all but fizzled when Oxygen was forced to close several sites and backtrack > > >from its ambitious e-commerce goals. > > > > > >But the Nielsen figures provide the first official scorecard of how audiences are taking to its programming. The miniscule audience > > >numbers were surprising to long-time television industry analysts. "Barely a heartbeat - if it was any lower it would be a hash > > >mark," said one; Another said the network's viewership "hardly registers a ripple in the pond." > > > > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/22/business/media/22TUBE.html | > > > > > >Click above for the rest of the story. > > > > > >sp00k etc ... > > >Http://Poe.Org > > >Http://UnitedChats.Com > > >================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 20:56:45 -0700 (PDT) From: jason blakely Subject: Re: Intorducing myself I should of did this along time ago >Now that you are an Angry Psycho, we would love > to know: > (1) Who you are?, > Call me Jason, Jabone, Dr. J > (2) Where you're from?, > Toronto, On, Canada > (3) How old you are?, > 24 ( 25 on May 8th) > (4) Where you first heard Poe?, > Oh just after the Hello album came out I think. My > sister had the tape for a bit, so when I moved out > I got the CD > (5) What other musicians do you listen to? > Nelly Furtado, NIN, Stevie Ray Vaughan,Beastie > Boys, Delerium, Moby, I guess I'm pretty well > rounded when it comes to music :) > (6) Any other interesting information you wish to > share. > I just finished a three year program at Sheridan > College ( Illustration ). I should have my new web > page up soon ( yes there's a poe Illustration ) > But for now here's my old web page. http://www.sheridanc.on.ca/~blakely/ Enjoy :) Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V7 #112 ***********************************