From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V7 #101 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Wednesday, April 10 2002 Volume 07 : Number 101 Today's Subjects: ----------------- poe masters on ebay ["j." ] Re: NPR Imperial Teen ["Oona ***" ] Re: KPR(rant)-Garbage Show that was on VH1and Poe rant (turn back before it'... ["Reg" ] RE: Poe Master tapes [Ed Hunsinger ] Re: Poe Master tapes [Dan98908@aol.com] RE: p+E "Haunted" press pictures [] RE: p+E "Haunted" press pictures [] p-o-e.com bannings ["sp00k@poe.org" ] RE: p-o-e.com bannings ["Pierce, Marshall" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 01:31:37 -0500 From: "j." Subject: poe masters on ebay It would seem that the auction has been pulled, with no record of it existing. I tried visiting today and it told me they were "invalid items". Usually when it's been sold (or ebay cancels the auction) it gives you a message telling you that it's been sold, or why it's been removed. I'm wondering what happened -- anybody have an idea? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 02:16:28 -0500 From: "Oona ***" Subject: Re: NPR Imperial Teen i love that band! (imperial teen) i got to see them live and i fell in love with them....but i didnt realize they had a new cd out...thanks for the info :) tooodles not very angry, but pretty psychotic Tara >Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 16:56:33 EDT >From: BUDave18@aol.com >Subject: Re: NPR Imperial Teen > >In a message dated 4/9/02 2:57:25 AM, nbvwes@yahoo.com writes: > ><< Just wondering if anybody out their remembers this >small alt. band that had two small hits in the late >90's... "Yoo-Hoo" (which was on the soundtrack for >'Jawbreaker') and "Your One"... >> > >The new CD is amazing! they're awesome live! im on the IT list, man! are >you >on it also? > >check out imperialteen.com > >cool alt geek stuff.. very wicked >peace, > seb _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 02:53:04 -0500 From: "Reg" Subject: Re: KPR(rant)-Garbage Show that was on VH1and Poe rant (turn back before it'... i have to agree that shirley looks jacked up now. but if she still had the same hair that she had when they first came out, i'd be in love with her even MORE!!!! - -reg - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conor Riley" To: ; ; ; Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 3:50 PM Subject: Re: KPR(rant)-Garbage Show that was on VH1and Poe rant (turn back before it'... > > i also liked the garbage BHTM...BUT, i hate how shirley looks now. if she > looked how she did from 1995-2000 i would like garbage THAT much more, but i > still like them a lot and they are one of my favoritetest bands. p.s. who > thinks shirley looked really really hot on the back cover of G or their > first cd? > > -conor- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; ; > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: KPR(rant)-Garbage Show that was on VH1and Poe rant (turn back > before it'... > > > > > > I agree. I liked the Behind the Music special on Garbage... here comes a > > corny story. I was thinking about all of the music on BeautifulGarbage and > > watching information on Butch Vig and the like and I'm thinking about how > > great they are as musicians. Although I didn't like BeautifulGarbage at > > first... I'm thinking that they're an experimental band and by all means > they > > were being experimental with this album, too! I guess my disappointment > had > > to do with loving EVERY song on the pink CD and Version 2.0 and when I > didn't > > like every single song on BeautifulGarbage that become the main reason for > my > > disappointment. I will always appreciate Garbage's music although I might > not > > listen to one song on the new CD as I do with the rest, but they are one > of > > the few talented bands of the 90s and like Poe, they have their own sound > > that no one can match. > > Peace, }}Y{{eLissA > > - These people (Britney, NSync..) are about as deep as a bird bath- David > > Crosby ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:17:03 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: poe masters on ebay Here is what he has total Christopher Chatman Beyond Records 310 674 deleted for legal reasons by Dan, if you need it email me. POE MASTER TAPE LIST b Page 1 Name of Songs On Tape Tape Width Date Indicated On Tape Tracks Price Indicated Tape Number (if any) Quantity of Takes on Tape HELLO 1 B= 6-22-95 2 HOLD Mix No Vocal W/ LADAs FINGERTIPS 2 B= 6-22-95 2 500.00 FINGERTIPS No Lead Vocal Trigger Happy Jack ANGRY JOHNNY 3 B= 9-13-96 2 500.00 LIVE ANGRY JOHNNY 4 B= 9-13-96 2 500.00 (ALBUM VERSION) FINGERTIPS 5 B= 7-3-95 2 500.00 Remix Alternate Remix TRIGGER HAPPY JACK Remix Alternate Remix ANGRY JOHNNY 6 2 4-25-96 24 HOLD MASTER DOLPHIN 7 2 11-2-94 24 1000.00 MASTER HELLO 8 2 9-17-96 24 1500.00 (Band Version) ANGRY JOHNNY 9 2 9-17-96 24 1000.00 Remixes 3 Takes ***** HELLO 10 2 10-17-96 24 1000.00 (SLAVE) POE MASTER TAPE LIST b Page 2 Name of Songs On Tape Tape Width Date Indicated On Tape Tracks Price Indicated Tape Number (if any) Quantity of Takes on Tape HELLO 11 B= 6-1-95 2 750.00 (Davebs Mix With Edits) **** ANGRY JOHNNY 12 B= 9-24-96 2 750.00 (Remixes )***** ANGRY JOHNNY 13 2 4-25-96 24 1500.00 (OUTTAKE)**** ANGRY JOHNNY (OUTTAKE)**** HAPPY SONG*** 14 2 12/94 24 4000.00 I DONbT LV U*** DESIRE(SCRACH)*** 15 2 2/24/93 24 4000.00 ANOTHER WORLD FINGERTIPS 16 2 12/2/94 24 2500.00 MARY KEST 1 DAY DESIRE*** 17 2 4/95 24 2500.00 HELLO JUNKIE 4 YA LUV 18 2 1/95 24 1500.00 ONE DAY ANGRY JOHNNY (BLOW U) DOLPHIN (SLAVE) 19 2 12/20/94 24 3000.00 SCOTTIE (MASTER) CRAZY EASY*** 20 2 5/14/92 24 4000.00 HELLO TWO HEARTS CANO 21 2 1/31/95 24 4000.00 PASSIN THROUGH GHOST TRACK (CAN0) *** Song is described as being by Annie D. ***** means unreleased song and/or version of song POE MASTER TAPE LIST b Page 3 Name of Songs On Tape Tape Width Date Indicated On Tape Tracks Price Indicated Tape Number (if any) Quantity of Takes on Tape HELLO***** 22 2 3/93 24 2500.00 MY DESIRE UNTITLED #2 *** 23 2 NO DATE 24 5000.00 TWO HEARTS 5/14/92 EASY 4/18/93 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:18:44 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: re:Poe Master tapes Hello jak@ircii.org, In reference to your comment: h It would seem that the auction has been pulled, with no h record of it existing. I tried visiting today and it told me h they were "invalid items". Usually when it's been sold h (or ebay cancels the auction) it gives you a message h telling you that it's been sold, or why it's been h removed. I'm wondering what happened -- anybody h have an idea? I think maybe "somebody" told Ebay that these items legally belong to Paul Fishkin and were not legally in the storage locker at the time of the auction sale. The person writing the letter gave them Paul's phone number for confirmation and the notification that the disposition of these items had been an issue with the LAPD. Bottom line is, these are third generation 1/2 inch masters that have already been digitized and have very low value, not even enough to go through the litigation of trying to get them back. Now that he is trying to sell them again I think that may be rethought though, especially since he even admits he sold copies of Stevie's stuff ( now THOSE he has legally) that were in the same locker to someone who is making and selling copies. Sad thing is some of those Masters are the primaries and copies do NOT exist of them. Stevie is pretty upset about that, but like I say...those he legally owns. For those of you who do not remember the story, Paul owned Modern Records and sold it to Michael Jackson's brother, Randy. Randy was not the most astute businessman and neglected to pay his storage bills for a facility where a large number of Masters were kept. As part of the sale conditions he was required to return all personal material belonging to Fishkin, including anything Poe related. Poe's contract and all materials related to Poe were withheld from the sale. When the bill was not paid long enough the contents were sold at auction and all the materials in it legally belonged to this guy as high bidder. That is, all the material that was LEGALLY in the locker. If the guy that owned it was hiding stolen goods in the locker, the stolen goods would not legally belong to him, they would be confiscated and returned to their rightful owners. That is the case with the business records of Paul's and the Poe material. By the terms of the contract that was all supposed to have already been turned back over to Paul. Modern Records did not have a right to retain it, store it, or delay in returning it to Fishkin Entertainment, Inc, the rightful owner. Last year I was going to buy the whole lot from the guy and bought the first two to check out their quality and see if Poe and Paul wanted me to buy the rest to keep them out of the hands of people who may try to exploit them. Mark Chatman, the guy selling them for the investor who bought the storage locker, kept changing the list of what he had and Paul was advising me that I should just let it go. So I did. Eventually got my money back since he did not have the tapes I bought. He said they had been mislabeled. Mark ( the guy actually selling the tapes) offered to sell them to me again, I considered buying them, but I am not going to for several reasons... First, we consider them stolen property and I don't want to get in trouble myself. Second, I only wanted to buy them to return them to Poe. The way she has been NOT interacting with the APs lately makes be reluctant to buy 15,000 dollars worth of tapes and just give them to her when she won't even answer our mail. I let Poe and Johnny know the home phone number of the guy that has them, I advised the PD the guy was selling them again, I let Fishkin know. If they want them they can buy them or take the guy to court. The police will be talking to Paul to determine if this is a criminal or civil issue. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:21:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: re:Poe Master tapes Dan, You the man. *************************************************** JK/// Jarrod Kniff President - Cyberfan Corporation jarrod@cyberfan.com *************************************************** *************************************************** On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 Dan98908@aol.com wrote: > > Hello jak@ircii.org, > > In reference to your comment: > > h It would seem that the auction has been pulled, with no > h record of it existing. I tried visiting today and it told me > h they were "invalid items". Usually when it's been sold > h (or ebay cancels the auction) it gives you a message > h telling you that it's been sold, or why it's been > h removed. I'm wondering what happened -- anybody > h have an idea? > > I think maybe "somebody" told Ebay that these items legally belong to Paul > Fishkin and were not legally in the storage locker at the time of the auction > sale. The person writing the letter gave them Paul's phone number for > confirmation and the notification that the disposition of these items had > been an issue with the LAPD. > > Bottom line is, these are third generation 1/2 inch masters that have already > been digitized and have very low value, not even enough to go through the > litigation of trying to get them back. Now that he is trying to sell them > again I think that may be rethought though, especially since he even admits > he sold copies of Stevie's stuff ( now THOSE he has legally) that were in > the same locker to someone who is making and selling copies. > > Sad thing is some of those Masters are the primaries and copies do NOT exist > of them. Stevie is pretty upset about that, but like I say...those he > legally owns. > > For those of you who do not remember the story, Paul owned Modern Records > and sold it to Michael Jackson's brother, Randy. Randy was not the most > astute businessman and neglected to pay his storage bills for a facility > where a large number of Masters were kept. > > As part of the sale conditions he was required to return all personal > material belonging to Fishkin, including anything Poe related. Poe's > contract and all materials related to Poe were withheld from the sale. > > When the bill was not paid long enough the contents were sold at auction and > all the materials in it legally belonged to this guy as high bidder. That > is, all the material that was LEGALLY in the locker. > > If the guy that owned it was hiding stolen goods in the locker, the stolen > goods would not legally belong to him, they would be confiscated and returned > to their rightful owners. That is the case with the business records of > Paul's and the Poe material. By the terms of the contract that was all > supposed to have already been turned back over to Paul. > > Modern Records did not have a right to retain it, store it, or delay in > returning it to Fishkin Entertainment, Inc, the rightful owner. > > Last year I was going to buy the whole lot from the guy and bought the first > two to check out their quality and see if Poe and Paul wanted me to buy the > rest to keep them out of the hands of people who may try to exploit them. > Mark Chatman, the guy selling them for the investor who bought the storage > locker, kept changing the list of what he had and Paul was advising me that I > should just let it go. So I did. Eventually got my money back since he did > not have the tapes I bought. He said they had been mislabeled. > > Mark ( the guy actually selling the tapes) offered to sell them to me again, > I considered buying them, but I am not going to for several reasons... > First, we consider them stolen property and I don't want to get in trouble > myself. Second, I only wanted to buy them to return them to Poe. The way > she has been NOT interacting with the APs lately makes be reluctant to buy > 15,000 dollars worth of tapes and just give them to her when she won't even > answer our mail. > > I let Poe and Johnny know the home phone number of the guy that has them, I > advised the PD the guy was selling them again, I let Fishkin know. If they > want them they can buy them or take the guy to court. The police will be > talking to Paul to determine if this is a criminal or civil issue. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 11:14:59 -0400 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: RE: Poe Master tapes Woot! Add another point for the APs, and a huge thanks goes out to "Somebody" :) - -Ed ed@poe.org >===== Original Message From Dan98908@aol.com ===== >Hello jak@ircii.org, > >In reference to your comment: > >h It would seem that the auction has been pulled, with no >h record of it existing. I tried visiting today and it told me >h they were "invalid items". Usually when it's been sold >h (or ebay cancels the auction) it gives you a message >h telling you that it's been sold, or why it's been >h removed. I'm wondering what happened -- anybody >h have an idea? > >I think maybe "somebody" told Ebay that these items legally belong to Paul >Fishkin and were not legally in the storage locker at the time of the auction >sale. The person writing the letter gave them Paul's phone number for >confirmation and the notification that the disposition of these items had >been an issue with the LAPD. > >Bottom line is, these are third generation 1/2 inch masters that have already >been digitized and have very low value, not even enough to go through the >litigation of trying to get them back. Now that he is trying to sell them >again I think that may be rethought though, especially since he even admits >he sold copies of Stevie's stuff ( now THOSE he has legally) that were in >the same locker to someone who is making and selling copies. > >Sad thing is some of those Masters are the primaries and copies do NOT exist >of them. Stevie is pretty upset about that, but like I say...those he >legally owns. > >For those of you who do not remember the story, Paul owned Modern Records >and sold it to Michael Jackson's brother, Randy. Randy was not the most >astute businessman and neglected to pay his storage bills for a facility >where a large number of Masters were kept. > >As part of the sale conditions he was required to return all personal >material belonging to Fishkin, including anything Poe related. Poe's >contract and all materials related to Poe were withheld from the sale. > >When the bill was not paid long enough the contents were sold at auction and >all the materials in it legally belonged to this guy as high bidder. That >is, all the material that was LEGALLY in the locker. > >If the guy that owned it was hiding stolen goods in the locker, the stolen >goods would not legally belong to him, they would be confiscated and returned >to their rightful owners. That is the case with the business records of >Paul's and the Poe material. By the terms of the contract that was all >supposed to have already been turned back over to Paul. > >Modern Records did not have a right to retain it, store it, or delay in >returning it to Fishkin Entertainment, Inc, the rightful owner. > >Last year I was going to buy the whole lot from the guy and bought the first >two to check out their quality and see if Poe and Paul wanted me to buy the >rest to keep them out of the hands of people who may try to exploit them. >Mark Chatman, the guy selling them for the investor who bought the storage >locker, kept changing the list of what he had and Paul was advising me that I >should just let it go. So I did. Eventually got my money back since he did >not have the tapes I bought. He said they had been mislabeled. > >Mark ( the guy actually selling the tapes) offered to sell them to me again, >I considered buying them, but I am not going to for several reasons... >First, we consider them stolen property and I don't want to get in trouble >myself. Second, I only wanted to buy them to return them to Poe. The way >she has been NOT interacting with the APs lately makes be reluctant to buy >15,000 dollars worth of tapes and just give them to her when she won't even >answer our mail. > >I let Poe and Johnny know the home phone number of the guy that has them, I >advised the PD the guy was selling them again, I let Fishkin know. If they >want them they can buy them or take the guy to court. The police will be >talking to Paul to determine if this is a criminal or civil issue. - -Ed (Divinity) ed@poe.org http://ed.hunsinger.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:38:19 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe Master tapes Hello hunsin_e@denison.edu, In reference to your comment: h Woot! Add another point for the APs, and a huge h thanks goes out to "Somebody" :) I'll pass it on. I gotta admit a part of me would like to have heard a couple of the cuts I am not familiar with on that list! I was VERY tempted to buy them! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 16:40:30 -0400 From: Subject: RE: p+E "Haunted" press pictures you can find those pictures you're looking for on the anti-christ's site... well... depending on how you look at it.. they could be saints... anyway... here you go: http://www.atlantic-records.com/poe/artistPhotoBio_frameset.html - -rusty www.rustyshelby.cjb.net www.484music.com - ------------------------------ From: "Ice Princess" Subject: POE Haunted Pictures I'm looking for the POE Haunted press pictures. Like the one's of her in the field with the little girl, and in the dark room with the door, or her with the little girl lying on the table. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? If anyone has a link to where I can find these pictures, I would so appreciate it! I really need them for a mixed media ceramics project that I'm doing. :) ~Shelley ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 16:39:40 -0400 From: Subject: RE: p+E "Haunted" press pictures you can find those pictures you're looking for on the anti-christ's site... well... depending on how you look at it.. they could be saints... anyway... here you go: http://www.atlantic-records.com/poe/artistDiscography_frameset.html - ------------------------------ From: "Ice Princess" Subject: POE Haunted Pictures I'm looking for the POE Haunted press pictures. Like the one's of her in the field with the little girl, and in the dark room with the door, or her with the little girl lying on the table. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? If anyone has a link to where I can find these pictures, I would so appreciate it! I really need them for a mixed media ceramics project that I'm doing. :) ~Shelley ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:11:29 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: p-o-e.com bannings So what, who cares if the latest banninsg at p-o-e.com are not Angie's fault THIS time, p-o-e.com is nothing more than a marketing tool. Angie was presented to the AP list as a friend of Poe's, that would be working with us. There is word that she never even met Poe prior to "joining us" AND She proved to be nothing more than another talking head, except this time a snotty one. While she may have been reserved when she did post to the AP list, her tone on the Angie BBS leaves little doubt that she is extremely agressive, and if left unchallanged, would have continued to work the AP list in her never ending effort to create a data base of Poe fans to sell SHIT to, THATS what it's all about, MARKETING, not the music, the STUFF, and the artist, REAL FUCKING AP's are too DIRTY for Poe, she must have a special sanitized list of members, fucking plastic data base of fans and credit card numbers. You can't be one of Angie's AP's unless you sign up for the Angie BBS, and those who sign up at the Angie BBS can be sure that Poe hears what they have to say... according to what I have read at p-o-e.com What a fucking rip off. sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://UnitedChats.Com ================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:29:45 -0400 From: "Pierce, Marshall" Subject: RE: p-o-e.com bannings I seem to find this all so sad, it used to be ( for the year or so I have been on the AP list) that this was a cool community of people who had at least one thing in common (P*E). It now seems we have splintered and become disjointed in nature. I see a LOT of anger on the list these days, and it is far different then the way it used to be. As far as I am concerned Poe, was never about stuff, but music (Ok, I own a cool numbered Psycho tee-shirt). I wonder if Poe knows what is going on in her own Fan base? My 2 cents. - -----Original Message----- From: sp00k@poe.org [mailto:usscvn65@frontiernet.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:11 PM To: angry psychos Subject: p-o-e.com bannings So what, who cares if the latest banninsg at p-o-e.com are not Angie's fault THIS time, p-o-e.com is nothing more than a marketing tool. Angie was presented to the AP list as a friend of Poe's, that would be working with us. There is word that she never even met Poe prior to "joining us" AND She proved to be nothing more than another talking head, except this time a snotty one. While she may have been reserved when she did post to the AP list, her tone on the Angie BBS leaves little doubt that she is extremely agressive, and if left unchallanged, would have continued to work the AP list in her never ending effort to create a data base of Poe fans to sell SHIT to, THATS what it's all about, MARKETING, not the music, the STUFF, and the artist, REAL FUCKING AP's are too DIRTY for Poe, she must have a special sanitized list of members, fucking plastic data base of fans and credit card numbers. You can't be one of Angie's AP's unless you sign up for the Angie BBS, and those who sign up at the Angie BBS can be sure that Poe hears what they have to say... according to what I have read at p-o-e.com What a fucking rip off. sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://UnitedChats.Com ================================================================== ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V7 #101 ***********************************