From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V7 #67 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Tuesday, March 5 2002 Volume 07 : Number 067 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NPR Damn Palm Email. ["John A, Bell" ] NPR 10K Nuke... ["sp00k@poe.org" ] NPR: cats ["Aaron J. Boltman" ] NPR: Offlist (Let's try this again!) [Derek Benton ] Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR cat commentary ["Andrea E. Jackman" ] Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR [MonkeyT ] Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR ["Bad Bender" ] NPR: What is wrong with this picture??!!! [Dan98908@aol.com] NPR-Re: What is wrong with this picture??!!!-NPR ["Bad Bender" ] extra ticket to tonights NYC Nelly Furtado concert for sale [Fumbler310@a] here's my Autographpicprize ["Gretchyn Nothhouse" ] Re: NPR cat commentary [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR... now Mark Twain is a cat:-) [LiveThruThisVow@aol.c] Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR... now Mark Twain is a cat:-) [LiveThruThisVow@aol.c] Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR... now Mark Twain is a cat:-) [KrodKnid@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 02:24:56 -0500 From: "John A, Bell" Subject: NPR Damn Palm Email. To those who I am conversing with re: philosophy. We might as well post privately; I am sure the APs are sick of this, and conversely my Palm insists on addressing it to only you and not All, so... :) - -jb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 05:46:02 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: NPR 10K Nuke... New York -- In October, an intelligence alert went out to a small number of government agencies, including the Energy Department's top-secret Nuclear Emergency Search Team, based in Nevada. The report said that terrorists were thought to have obtained a 10-kiloton nuclear weapon from the Russian arsenal, and planned to smuggle it into New York City, a special TIME magazine investigation reveals. Publishing sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT, the next cover story of TIME will headline: "Can We Stop the Next 9/11?" The report hits newsstands Monday, March 4th. http://drudgereport.com/flash.htm ....."Counterterrorism experts and government officials interviewed by TIME say that for all the relative calm since Sept. 11, America's luck will probably run out again, sooner or later. "It's going to be worse, and a lot of people are going to die," warns one U.S. counterterrorism official. "I don't think there's a damn thing we're going to be able to do about it." Now for those of you who would like to skirt the issues, and turn this into another round of media bashing... or bashing of the current White House administration, or bashing of the U.S., eh? I say fuck off OK? I'm not blind, I'm not ignorant, I know the U.S. has faults, and so does the rest of the world that we are a PART of. I'm not opposed to dissent, I'm always in search of the extremes in issues so that I may read between the lines in search of the truth. I'm not sure what city "Jess" is from, but should we mourn the loss of Jess if Jess is nuked in a city because Jess should have been smart enough to know that citieis are targets? Or for being so dumb as to live downwind of a target? AND what about AT, what if he and his family are only close enough to ground zero to get radiation poisoning that takes 90 days to kill them? AND to you other voices of dissent, the real ANTI U.S. ones, I ask, IF they sound the alarm to evacuate your city, and you are running your scared little ass out of town, and it becomes obvious that you will not get out, will you be popping off with your big mouth then about how much the U.S. deserves this? Oh yeah and by the way, I think you real ANTI U.S. people that live here are a bunch of FAKE lame ass fucking S N O B S, by the way, just thought I'd throw that in... AND what about those of you who say this ain't a war? Make no mistake, this IS WWIII haPPy monday. sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://DigitalSter.Com ================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 07:54:23 -0500 From: "Aaron J. Boltman" Subject: NPR: cats >> Melissa , Mark twain never had a cat..I do, and trust me , she enjoys >> first torturing , then killing rats and squirrels 1. There is no such person as Mark Twain. 2. Samuel Clemens DID have a cat. I know this because I have seen his study, it's like a gazebo and there was a hole cut into the side and also the floor so his cat could jump up into it. It's only a few miles from me in Elmira NY. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 10:43:59 -0500 From: Derek Benton Subject: NPR: Offlist (Let's try this again!) Okay, for some reason this message isn't wanting to got through. My apologies if this gets sent twice. I also sent out the previous one before I was finished!! I have to agree with John, it seems that the topics of philosophy and Gov't are only being discussed by a handful of us, so it should be taken offlist. Also, it seems that tensions are running high and in my experience in the past with mailing lists that's what causes people to unsub from lists, even those who haven't partaken of the discussion, because they get tired of the bullshit and drama, to be blunt. Also, it almost seems like sending an e-mail that by all or most accounts is aimed at one person is "Exhibitionist Mental Masturbating" and that IMO becomes one ups-manship, and who wants to read that? Yes, we have a choice whether to read it or not, but why even have it go to the list? It's like, I'm sure you could filter water from sewage, but why would you need or want to try? Bottom line, no we won't all agree or even like each other, but neither should we come to blows when our opinions don't match. We're supposed to be a community (re-read the message you got when you first joined the AP list) healthy discussion is one thing, but c'mon...anybody can flame someone else...to quote my favorite Dilbert cartoon: "You're a big man in cyberspace, flame-boy!" Freedom of speech DOESN'T mean you should be free from being courteous or respectful, and in this case its not just on an individual basis, its the other people who belong to the list as well. Think before you hit send: "Is this something the entire list (or majority thereof) is going to want to read, or can partake in if they choose? Or is this something I should send to 1 or 2 people?". Just my suggestions. Take them as you will. In hopes the list will get more active and become copasetic, Humbly, Derek ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:58:19 -0600 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: NPR-Re: cats-NPR But do you know what Mark Twain means? > > >> Melissa , Mark twain never had a cat..I do, and trust me , she enjoys > > >> first torturing , then killing rats and squirrels > > 1. There is no such person as Mark Twain. > 2. Samuel Clemens DID have a cat. > > I know this because I have seen his study, it's like a gazebo and there > was a hole cut into the side and also the floor so his cat could jump up > into it. It's only a few miles from me in Elmira NY. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 12:01:13 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR In a message dated 3/4/2002 11:48:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, thegeneral@knology.net writes: > But do you know what Mark Twain means? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a depth measurement used by riverboats. It means, literally, 2 fathoms. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 13:50:15 -0500 From: "Andrea E. Jackman" Subject: Re: NPR cat commentary whoo-weee that's some more dangerous harsh and thoughtless stuff coming out of your neck of the woods again, my dear. cats are wonderful, especially if you can command their attention and respect. they are highly organized, affectionate, loyal, and independent. And they take care of their own feces which is key. i have 2 Bengal cats and they are a very interesting breed. They are a mix between an Asian Leopard and a domestic Egyptian Mau. Very big, very beautiful. Either gold, brown, white, chocolate or black and with corresponding spots, rosettes, stripes or a marble pattern . To show them they have to be beyond the F4 generation, (remember biology?!??!) Pixel, my two year old is an F2, so he's pretty close to the wild and my new kitten, Miles is an F7. They look (and sometimes act) as wild as their genes denote which is a desirable set of traits (i think . . .) Pixel is a gold spotted Bengal, all 20 lbs of him and he opens cupboards, drawers, and insists on being at the highest point in the room. Bengals walk on leashes, fetch like dogs and howl like a lion. They are very vocal and they love water too. so i would tread lightly and not write off the whole species of cat, especially as pet. ///Andrea littleREDelf - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:40 PM Subject: Re: NPR > > In a message dated 3/2/02 7:50:24 PM Central Standard Time, > mb882@earthlink.net writes: > > > > Melissa , Mark twain never had a cat..I do, and trust me , she enjoys first > > torturing , then killing rats and squirrels > > > > I could agree with that. Cats are by far on the bottom list of favorite > animals. I almost was considering dissecting one this year, but I reminded > myself that the cats were probably some lost kitten that an old lady owned. > Now... who was it that said dolphins have sex for pleasure along with humans? > Peace, MeLissA > Of all the animals, man is the only one that is cruel. He is the only one > that inflicts pain for the pleasure of doing it. - Mark Twain ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:37:31 -0800 (PST) From: MonkeyT Subject: Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR ooh ooh I do! Its a river boat depth check. When the call comes out to "Mark Twain," Confirmation of 2 fathoms is being requested 1fathom = 6feet. So tell me Bender... do you know annother pen name for Mr Clemens that pertains to the subject matter above? -MT - --- Bad Bender wrote: > > But do you know what Mark Twain means? > > > > > > >> Melissa , Mark twain never had a cat..I do, and > trust me , she enjoys > > > > >> first torturing , then killing rats and > squirrels > > > > 1. There is no such person as Mark Twain. > > 2. Samuel Clemens DID have a cat. > > > > I know this because I have seen his study, it's > like a gazebo and there > > was a hole cut into the side and also the floor so > his cat could jump up > > into it. It's only a few miles from me in Elmira NY. ===== - -The views and or advertisements to follow are not necessarily those of the sender. Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 14:39:48 -0600 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR Nope. I've only read a few stories he wrote and never gave much thought to any other pen names he used all though I have heard he used a few. > > ooh ooh I do! Its a river boat depth check. When the > call comes out to "Mark Twain," Confirmation of 2 > fathoms is being requested 1fathom = 6feet. So tell > me Bender... do you know annother pen name for Mr > Clemens that pertains to the subject matter above? > > -MT > > But do you know what Mark Twain means? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 15:39:38 EST From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: NPR: What is wrong with this picture??!!! As most of you know I have been a paramedic for the last 27 years. So I take this news story VERY personal! There is NO excuse for this kind of behavior on the part of ANY army in peace OR war! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------ Palestinian ambulance crew in close tank encounter By Paul Holmes JENIN, West Bank, March 4 (Reuters) - Khaled Subuh and the rest of his Palestinian ambulance crew treating a wounded woman spent a long 20 minutes on Monday under the barrel of an Israeli tank at a refugee camp invaded by Israeli forces. "The soldiers stopped the ambulance and wouldn't let it move. We had a patient with bullet injuries in the right shoulder and the right leg -- a woman -- and she was bleeding," Subuh, a nurse, told Reuters at the main hospital in Jenin. He said the incident happened at a junction where gunmen had been firing on the tank from up the street during the incursion, part of Israel's stepped up retaliation for deadly Palestinian attacks on soldiers and civilians. "The fighters were shooting at the tank, so they (the Israelis) put us in front of it," Subuh said, likening himself, the rest of the crew and their patient to human shields. An Israeli military spokeswoman said she had no immediate information on the alleged incident. Subuh said the ambulance was forced to stop 30 cm (one foot) in front of the tank, to the right-hand side of its barrel. The Palestinian gunmen stopped firing when they saw the ambulance, but the tank then opened up with its machinegun, Subuh added. "The tank fired for 20 minutes, then it moved and we were able to get to the hospital," Subuh said. The wounded woman, who Subuh said had been hit by Israeli fire, survived. Medical officials in Jenin said Israeli forces had blocked ambulances from entering the refugee camp to tend to Palestinian casualties for several hours in the morning. The Israeli military spokeswoman said the entry delay was due to heavy fighting inside the camp. In a separate incident, the army opened fire on a Palestinian ambulance near the scene of the fighting in Jenin, killing a doctor who headed the local emergency services and wounding three medics. The Israeli army said soldiers shot at the ambulance after it sped towards them. One of the wounded medics said the vehicle had been moving at a "snail's pace." 15:19 03-04-02 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:00:47 -0600 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: NPR-Re: What is wrong with this picture??!!!-NPR The only excuse is war is hell. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:30:18 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR... now Mark Twain is a cat:-) In a message dated 3/4/2002 3:28:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, thegeneral@knology.net writes: > Nope. I've only read a few stories he wrote and never gave much thought to > any other pen names he used all though I have heard he used a few. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clemens was a pal of Ambrose Bierce, who Melissa also brought up with her literate posting...this during the time he was in Sacramento (the "Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County" era) and AB was in San Francisco...can you imagine how cynical and funny those two must have been in their conversations:-) Bierce was an interesting guy...he had been a "scout" during the Civil War, which meant that he went behind enemy lines to map the terrain and get info on troop deployment and any secrets he might be able to glean. Scouts also frequently employed spying "secret agent" style, with disguises like enemy uniforms et al. They were always killed when caught, usually by hanging after a brief, informal "trial". This real life stuff is probably where Bierce got the ideas for stories like "An Occurrence At Owl Creek Bridge" (which made for a nice "Twilight Zone" episode). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:47:36 -0600 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: NPR-Re: cats-NPR... now Mark Twain is a cat:-) Wasn't that the story where the guy about to be hanged imagines his escape from the noose on his way down? This real life stuff is probably where Bierce got the ideas for stories like "An Occurrence At Owl Creek Bridge" (which made for a nice "Twilight Zone" episode). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:37:33 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR... now Mark Twain is a cat:-) In a message dated 3/4/2002 5:36:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, thegeneral@knology.net writes: > Wasn't that the story where the guy about to be hanged imagines his escape > from the noose on his way down? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:39:14 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR... now Mark Twain is a cat:-) In a message dated 3/4/2002 5:37:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, KrodKnid@aol.com writes: > > Wasn't that the story where the guy about to be hanged imagines his escape > > from the noose on his way down? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Yeah > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the guy in the story was a caught "scout". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 17:39:01 -0500 From: "Andrea E. Jackman" Subject: Re: NPR cat commentary on 3/4/02 13:50, Andrea E. Jackman at littleredelf@comcast.net wrote: i have 2 Bengal cats and they are a very interesting breed. They are a mix between an Asian Leopard and a domestic Egyptian Mau. Very big, very beautiful. From: "Derek Benton" I think I remember by friend, Cat (coincidence, eh? he's about as feral as humans come) telling me about a sub-species of Cats that can take most medium to large sized dogs down! Sound like your furry friends? ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Yeah, pretty close, my roommate met Pixel, my oldest male Bengal the other day, and he confessed that the cat scared him. LOL! Of course, my cat wouldn't hurt a thing, he's super sweet! But yes, he's a veritable force, we have our cupboards child-proof locked because he can open them and he is not at all intimidated by our 115lb German Shepherd, Kate, who he rough-houses with. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:59:27 EST From: Fumbler310@aol.com Subject: extra ticket to tonights NYC Nelly Furtado concert for sale Sorry for the crosspost, my friend just backed out of her ticket so i have an extra....if anyone is interested, email back ASAP. Its $35. Show is Tonight at 8pm. ~ Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 18:15:39 -0600 From: "Gretchyn Nothhouse" Subject: here's my Autographpicprize Come and see it! The poe packages have made it through the midwest! Http://www.geocities.com/wong_matt/poeautograph as always,[IMAGE]gretchyn - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 18:50:40 -0600 From: "Gretchyn Nothhouse" Subject: The POE faery I really like faeries, so for X-mas my mom got me a faery statue, which i think closely resembles our beloved poe, so check her out! http://geocities.com/wong_matt/poefaery [IMAGE]gretchyn - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 20:32:50 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR cat commentary In a message dated 3/4/2002 5:48:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, littleredelf@comcast.net writes: > I think I remember by friend, Cat (coincidence, eh? > he's about as feral as humans come) telling me about a sub-species of Cats > that can take most medium to large sized dogs down! Sound like your furry > friends? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like a Scottish feral cat. They are wildcats sort of like bobcat or lynx sized but they look like regular housecats...only huge. They have crossbred a lot with stray domestic cats too, so that has made them even more "normal" looking. The one I have seen in Scotland was the pet of some friends. That sucker was mammoth...at least 30-40 pounds...looked like your average grey/green tabby otherwise, and was one of the mellowest cats I have ever met. What did he have to be afraid of, right:-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 21:15:33 EST From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR... now Mark Twain is a cat:-) In a message dated 3/4/02 4:31:40 PM Central Standard Time, KrodKnid@aol.com writes: > This real life stuff is probably > where Bierce got the ideas for stories like "An Occurrence At Owl Creek > This particular story was assigned to me in class as well. Sad, sad story. No matter which side you agree with the most, you can sympathize with this either way. Peace, MeLissA Of all the animals, man is the only one that is cruel. He is the only one that inflicts pain for the pleasure of doing it. - Mark Twain ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 21:17:25 EST From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR... now Mark Twain is a cat:-) In a message dated 3/4/02 4:40:00 PM Central Standard Time, KrodKnid@aol.com writes: > I think the guy in the story was a caught "scout". > Actually, a Union scout dressed as a Confederate soldier came to Peyton's )whatever his last name was) door and asked for his aid and Peyton ended up taking a walk with the soldier right into a group of Federal soldiers. This is when he was hung. Peace, MeLissA Of all the animals, man is the only one that is cruel. He is the only one that inflicts pain for the pleasure of doing it. - Mark Twain ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 21:41:04 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR-Re: cats-NPR... now Mark Twain is a cat:-) In a message dated 3/4/2002 9:15:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, LiveThruThisVow writes: > This particular story was assigned to me in class as well. Sad, sad story. > No matter which side you agree with the most, you can sympathize with this > either way. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah. It is so unerringly "human" it hurts. ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V7 #67 **********************************