From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #526 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Saturday, November 24 2001 Volume 06 : Number 526 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. [JaunasAddiccion@aol.com] Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. [JaunasAddiccion@aol.com] Re: NPR: More Windows XP [KrodKnid@aol.com] NPR: AOL [JaunasAddiccion@aol.com] Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. ["John A. Bell" ] RE: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. ["Bad KiTTiE" ] Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. [Miki Proud ] Re: NPR: AOL [LolipopFailure@aol.com] Re:Oh no, I'm going to Hell [Spidersrcute2@aol.com] Re: KPR:...The Youngest Psycho? ["Gretchyn Nothhouse" ] Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. ["kelli helbig" ] Let's try this again :-P Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. [Lott] Re: harry potter wants my kids? npr [Trueluhv2000@aol.com] Re: NPR:...The Youngest Psycho? [andrea ] Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. [bash ] Re: harry potter wants my kids? [LotteP0T0@aol.com] Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. [bash ] Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. [bash ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:09:05 EST From: JaunasAddiccion@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. My take on life: Voicing your opinion doesn't mean you have to convince someone else that you're right, it usually just means there is something on yourmind that you'd like to talk about. If you are voicing an opinion solely to convince someone else that you're right, then you aren't actually voicing an opinion as you are attempting to persuade someone that you're right. it is also referred to as 'forcing your opinion on someone' which is what i think Jeff was trying to get across, but I could be wrong...wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last (hopefully). - ---dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:10:38 EST From: JaunasAddiccion@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. My take on life: Voicing your opinion doesn't mean you have to convince someone else that you're right, it usually just means there is something on yourmind that you'd like to talk about. If you are voicing an opinion solely to convince someone else that you're right, then you aren't actually voicing an opinion as you are attempting to persuade someone that you're right. it is also referred to as 'forcing your opinion on someone'. opinion shouldn't be expressed as fact, it should be stated and left to discuss, if so decided. which is kinda what i think Jeff was trying to get across, but I could be wrong...wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last (hopefully). - ---dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:12:46 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: More Windows XP In a message dated 11/24/2001 2:34:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, jbell126@nac.net writes: > I've seen Windows XP boot in under 45 seconds, though not on my machine. > AMD. Woo. :) > > -jb > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mine is, of course, AMD...an old one too...K6-2/400. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:15:04 EST From: JaunasAddiccion@aol.com Subject: NPR: AOL Why does AOL suck so much? does anyone else have similar problems when getting there mail: the wrong messages get deleted, words are randomly placed in the middle of others (happens more with signatures than with the actual mail itself, but still it bugs me) why didn't i (long ago) drop AOL like the syphilitic hooker that it is? grrrr......i hate insomnia - ---dan can't sleep ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:25:34 -0500 From: "John A. Bell" Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. Not that I was trying to force my opinion on anyone (I just wanted the bashing to stop), but attempting to persuade someone you are right, and forcing your opinion on them are NOT the same thing. Debates are made up of two people trying to convince the other or someone else that they are right. This is also done in court. Now, dictatorships, etc... THAT is "forcing your opinion". Anyways. Sorry to add fuel to the fire. Maybe I should shut up, since that's what everyone wants me to do, anyways. As bash said, who cares what I think or say? - -jb - ------ Gomer Goes to Hollywood... Entertainment Message Board http://pub37.ezboard.com/bgomergoestohollywood 'Blog you, too, pal! http://www.livejournal.com/~gomer43 - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 3:10 AM Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. > > My take on life: > Voicing your opinion doesn't mean you have to convince someone else that you're right, it usually just means there is something on yourmind that you'd like to talk about. > If you are voicing an opinion solely to convince someone else that you're right, then you aren't actually voicing an opinion as you are attempting to persuade someone that you're right. it is also referred to as 'forcing your opinion on someone'. > opinion shouldn't be expressed as fact, it should be stated and left to discuss, if so decided. which is kinda what i think Jeff was trying to get across, but I could be wrong...wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last (hopefully). > ---dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:24:10 EST From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. When will it end?!?! When?!?! WHEN?!?! MAKE IT GO AWAY!!!!!! Oh, I cant take the madness!! *rocks back and forth in the corner holding knees w/ a blatent gaze....drooling* ~Gypsy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:39:36 -0500 From: "John A. Bell" Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. > When will it end?!?! When?!?! WHEN?!?! > > MAKE IT GO AWAY!!!!!! Oh, I cant take the madness!! *rocks back and forth in > the corner holding knees w/ a blatent gaze....drooling* I'm sorry. I really am. Since my opinion and request was the unpopular one, let the majority rule. I'm not ready to die yet, so I'll just keep my views to myself. - -jb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:43:00 EST From: JaunasAddiccion@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. oh, don't do that. that's no fun at all. if we all did, we'd be nazis and that would make me have to kill myself. and you wouldn't want that would you? (please don't answer that if it's a yes). opinions are good, it makes people, well me at least, think. tell ya what, everyone send me your opinions on everything and i'll send you one of mine back, okay? it'll be like a psycho gift exchange. emphasis on psycho. Hey, speaking of religion..... Why is Osama Bin Laden still alive? Bin Laden has declared a Jihad. Intense fighting has been going on for weeks. Dying in a holy war supposedly gives one a free pass to heaven. Holy war waging throughout Afghanistan, yet no Bin Laden to be seen. Bin Laden is running like a coward from his own god....Yeah, NOW who's faith is weak? well, i think it's a valid point. - ---dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 04:19:27 EST From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com Subject: Re: harry potter wants my kids? Ya never hear Catholics yelling about "this is evil" "anything enjoyable is a one way ticket to hell" "we're all going to hell!!!!!" It's only these damn puritanical Christians who think dancing is the devil's mating call. And notice how they all have light brown short haircuts and mustaches? And always wear button up shirts with khakis? Let's all put in our black box recorder albums and relax a little bit. I think i'm losing my edge, I can't think of anything sharp and hateful to say. Megan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 04:36:46 -0500 From: "John A. Bell" Subject: Re: harry potter wants my kids? NO! NOT KHAKIS!!! Hehehehehehe. :) - -jb - ------ Gomer Goes to Hollywood... Entertainment Message Board http://pub37.ezboard.com/bgomergoestohollywood 'Blog you, too, pal! http://www.livejournal.com/~gomer43 - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 4:19 AM Subject: Re: harry potter wants my kids? > > Ya never hear Catholics yelling about "this is evil" "anything enjoyable is a > one way ticket to hell" "we're all going to hell!!!!!" It's only these damn > puritanical Christians who think dancing is the devil's mating call. And > notice how they all have light brown short haircuts and mustaches? And always > wear button up shirts with khakis? Let's all put in our black box recorder > albums and relax a little bit. I think i'm losing my edge, I can't think of > anything sharp and hateful to say. > Megan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 05:16:41 -0500 From: "Bad KiTTiE" Subject: RE: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. <<<"So I agree with someone else's opinion and not yours...can't take it? Not my problem. <<>>>>>> <<<"Please attend the record and book burning to follow the sermon...everyone remember your white sheets for after sunset? Those people on Maple street need a cross burned in their front yard tonight."">>> I think that those of you now bashing Christians and their churches didn't read enough into the sermon. You probably read the title "Harry Potter Wants Your Children", rolled your eyes, and thought "here we go... not another Christian attempt at rooting out imaginary evils in the name of God". So the people who believe it to be evil may be Bible-Thumpers, and sure I can see where you're all coming from with the "Then why not ban the tooth fairy, fairy tales, etc etc" stuff.. but I think you need to stand in a Christian's shoes. I picked up the Bible and read along with the sermon.. I tracked the passages to see how they fit with the overall message and it made a LITTLE more sense. The Bible was taken too extremely literally in most cases, but I can still see where they're coming from with the fears of their children being targes. On the other hand, I DO REALIZE that it is JUST A KID'S BOOK and not meant to do harm. It's not like it says "Hey kids, brew up a potion using THESE ingredients to bring dead Aunt Jane back from The Great Beyond!!" or "If you light these candles at these times during these days you can make your mean ole' teacher turn into a mouse!". So, YES, I can see both sides. The Pro-Potter more than the con, but still the con as well. ... Oh and another thing? The cross burning/white sheet comment was entirely ridiculous, uncalled for, and ignorant. Bringing something as hateful and low as White Power Organizations into a conversation of understanding, or lack thereof, of a Children's Book Series controversy says nothing for intelligence. - -Kittie - ------------------------------------*~ "If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything." - -Michael Evans _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:36:32 -0800 From: Miharu Nakatani Subject: NPR: Windows HP I installed Windows HP, the new, hip, 'magical' OS on my hard drive today. It proceeded, upon boot up, to shoot fireballs, give my cat a pair of horns, and turn my boyfriend into a frog. Now, I'm not one to say that he wasn't amphibian to begin with, but we can't allow these godless OSes to continue to plague this great country and taint the minds of our dear, impressionable children. Okay.. that's enough of my humorless ramble. Get it? Windows XP + Harry Potter.. er, nevermind. When you have to deconstruct the joke, blah blah blah.. I'd say something about us all getting along and to stop the fighting and whatnot.. but I've come to accept the old story about how opinions are like buttholes and most of them are stinky.. but still, try to fill my PR box more than you do my NPR box.. unless your NPR posts will make my butt fall off from amazing-ness, or just plain peaceful talk (that would be pretty amazing ;p) - -miharu : the too tired to be funny, but tired enough to ramble minotaru.. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 05:19:13 -0800 (PST) From: Miki Proud Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. Hehe, is anyone else starting to see what I meant when I said this list would start a flame war over ANYTHING? I mean, come on people, it's fucking Harry Potter for shit's sake! It's a kid's book that happened to gain popularity and blossom into a movie. Damn! Everybody quit with the flaming and just chill a bit. If you don't like the fantasy stories, don't read them. If you do, feel free to stand in line for a week to see the movie. This argument is almost as lame as the Britney one guys. We're just wasting precious bytes of memory in my pathetic Yahoo mailbox over all this crap. - --- "John A. Bell" wrote: > > Say what you wish... I simply asked for the bashing > to stop. > > My, you're defensive. Did I hit a nerve? > > Hrm. "If you're secure in your faith..." What do you > know about it? Or about > my faith? Did I *say* I was a Christian? For all you > know, I am atheist. > > I asked for the bashing to stop, that's all. > > But since you're so hateful towards me and that > idea, and, apparently > Christians everywhere and everyone else who > disagrees with you, I know one > thing I'll be teaching MY kids, irrespective of > Harry Potter... > > "Be careful, son. Some people who say they value > freedom would kill you to > exercise theirs." > > Have a nice night. > > -jb > ----- > Gomer Goes to Hollywood... Entertainment Message > Board > http://pub37.ezboard.com/bgomergoestohollywood > > 'Blog you, too, pal! > http://www.livejournal.com/~gomer43 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bash > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:20 AM > Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. > > > > > > "John A. Bell" wrote: > > > > > > Your name says it all, man. > > > > > > "bash". > > > > > > > Short for Bashful. > > > > > > > I'm the one who can accept others views without > bashing them. > > > > Bullshit. You're trying to stop the discussion of > other views because > > you CAN'T accept them. > > I've got good reason for my opinions, and since > you disagree you call it > > bashing. > > > > > > > > > > Intelligent coversation that doesn't include > insults and ridicule... > that's > > > where ideas begin. > > > > > > > I see your behavior as an attempt to suppress > discussion. > > > > > > > -jb > > > ----------- > > > Gomer Goes to Hollywood... Entertainment Message > Board > > > http://pub37.ezboard.com/bgomergoestohollywood > > > > > > 'Blog you, too, pal! > > > http://www.livejournal.com/~gomer43 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: bash > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:09 AM > > > Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the > Anti-Church. > > > > > > > > > > > Such a big boy. So proud of your narrow > mindedness, eh? > > > > > > > > Good riddance, I say... > > > > > > > > "John A. Bell" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Actually, never mind. Forget I said that. Go > on, continue. I'll just > > > ignore > > > > > it. Just like I do Harry Potter. > > > > -- > > Bash > > ---------------- > > Plush fan? See: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Plush_Room > > > > Poe Fan? Live in NorCal? Visit: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BayAreaPoe ===== I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... Let the angels grace the land, for I have held you in my hand. And right there for a minute, I knew you so well Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:22:58 -0500 From: "Notajunkie" Subject: Re: my haunted delusion Damn, It looks like I have some competition now... I was going to try and see if I could work out something with her myself for a music vid, but I'm thinking probally for something from the upcoming stuff... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:27:20 EST From: LolipopFailure@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: AOL yes, aol does suck....but actually, i haven't had any of the problems that you spoke of (the wrong messages get deleted, words are randomly placed in the middle of others) i don't know why that would happen actually...... ...and the way the rain comes down hard....thats how i feel inside..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:30:21 EST From: Spidersrcute2@aol.com Subject: Re:Oh no, I'm going to Hell Hehe, I was so laughing about the Harry Potter stuff. I've been reading tarot cards and witchcraft manuals for years. I think I'm pretty sane. Personally (I know I'll get flamed for this one!) I think that Christianity and religion per se were all originally cults that just happened to "take off" and end up with a life long following. So religion is actually the best known cult there is!! I'm not Atheistic, I do believe in a god, but whether or not he's the Christian god or whomever it doesn't matter. It goes back to the supposed "Love thy neighbor" commandment. We may not think the same, we may not look the same, but love us anyways. Ah well, enough for me. I'm having a wonderful day, it's all stormy up here in northern California, windy and rainy. Beautiful, beautiful. I'm really happy now that I got all the plants in yesterday, otherwise they would've wound up in the next county by now. Got my tickets for the November 28th show (YES!!) so now I get to kick back for a bit and relax. Maybe I'll draw a picture to give to POE when I see her. Tracie Thanks for listening to me rant. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:37:31 -0600 From: "Gretchyn Nothhouse" Subject: Re: KPR:...The Youngest Psycho? Well, I kinda feel the same way. I just turned 17 in September, and still feel really young >From: "Bad KiTTiE" >Reply-To: Talk2aPsycho@PoE.org >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: KPR:...The Youngest Psycho? >Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 01:41:25 -0500 > > >As I was reading all of your wonderful accounts I noticed a trend... >I >wasn't there. (::cough:: But seriously, folks...lol...) Even if the >Misteress herself came to CT, I wouldn't be able to hang out at >preshow >places, most likely, because I'm only 17. ... Which leads me to my >question... am I the youngest Psycho in the Ward? I turned 17 on >October >7th. Just wondering. > >~Kittie > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:39:53 EST From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. In a message dated 11/24/01 1:09:23 AM Central Standard Time, bashful7@earthlink.net writes: > Such a big boy. So proud of your narrow mindedness, eh? > > Good riddance, I say... > I have a really bad memory, but from what I remember this person seems to be open minded in the post I've read of his. I'm not taking sides, but he never actually *bashed* anyone in the posts regarding Harry Potter so far. He was simply pointing out that even though some parents get ridiculous about Harry Potter they will raise their kids however they feel right (besides, everybody knows that those kids will be hiding under the cover reading J.K. Rowling at night, I let kids I babysit read it who are forbidden to). I'm just saying this to avoid a nasty flame war which has already seemed to taken place. I wish we could have a discussion every once in awhile that had FRIENDLY agreements/disagreements. Peace :) MeLissA ~*~There is something mysterious, almost inexplicable, about the idea of strangers coming together to sit in the dark, in silence or in laughter, responding to a filmmaker's work. It's a sensual and a cerebral experience...~Harmony Korine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:59:59 EST From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. The thing I absolutely LOVE about Catholic school is that they'll put you through 6 courses of religion and in the end it will give you more reasons to NOT believe in organized religion. Thanks to an asshole male religion teacher who told women that it was a PRIVILEGE to take part in church rather than a right, that led up to the stealing of his prized Mary statue muwahahahaha >:) However I don't bash the religion itself, just the radicals like there are in EVERY religion. I'm sorry but my grandmother is a devout Catholic and I do NOT hate her because she is one. In my opinion, it if flat out WRONG to belittle someone right off the bat because they participate in an organized religion. That's being just as narrow-minded as religious radicals, and there are radicals for EVERY type of belief. PLEASE everybody, just smoke a j or do whatever you do to get yourself in a good mood, hell go and watch Dogma :) Everybody be happy. Peace, MeLissA ~*~There is something mysterious, almost inexplicable, about the idea of strangers coming together to sit in the dark, in silence or in laughter, responding to a filmmaker's work. It's a sensual and a cerebral experience...~Harmony Korine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:22:07 -0500 From: "~ Sarah ~" Subject: Re: harry potter wants my kids? Personaly, I think harry potter is the stupidist book I have ever had the displeasure of having to read part of...the girl I babysit asked me to help her read it because she didn't understand it...they're reading it in school, by the way. I asked her if she liked it...she said, word for word, "No. It's really stupid." Well, let me ask you all something. If she doesn't understand it, then what will she get out of it...I know she's not the only kid in her school/state/country that doesn't understand what's going on. I believe some of you said children should have the choice...Ok, well, should she have the choice of reading something else in school? Or should she fail if she doesn't read it? I realize this IS school, and you do have to do some things you don't like, but since when did teachers do what probably majority of the students wanted to do? I mean, reading IS an important part of life...you can't just be a teacher and decide to read a book with your class on a whim. I wonder if teachers even read the books befor giving them to students. And, about the movie thing. A lot of movies have come out that have no violence/language/sex/etc. like monsters.inc...should ALL of my school be allowed to leave early and go see it? Should we take a field trip to the movies? Because, if you think about it, it's the same thing. ~Sarah _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:26:33 -0500 From: "kelli helbig" Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. all this and i havent had nicotine or caffeine .... ok here we go! first of all..everyone stop any hatred bashing etc etc etc its uncalled for and it just pisses everyone off. now: its just a movie everyone get off your high horses and religious pedistals and chill the fuck out. im a religious person. i dont know WHAT religion to call myself but im religious non the less. cant we all just get along? i mean for real people come on get over the nonsense! hasnt any of you heard that you should NEVER discuss religion with friends ..or anyone?? so.. why is it.. that every time i turn around you people are fighting about religion .. get off of it. opinions are like assholes everyone has one and everyone believes theirs smell like roses. "do unto others as you want them to do unto you" or however it goes.. you want people saying "oh man your religion SUCKS ASS" no.. i think not therefore shut the hell up about it .. if you dont think its religiously correct dont watch the damned movie. if you in fact want to see it GO SEE IT .. my mother, her bf, sister, and little brother , and i went to see the movie. the younger ones have not and probably wont go around trying to make potions, turn into cats or fight demons with sticks. they know its fiction .. they know the difference between fantasy and reality. if you people cant teach your children that its not my, or anyone elses, fault. i think you should all shut the hell up about religion regardless of what religion. so your wiccan.. so what? so your christian, catholic, atheist. me , and alot of other people im sure, dont care in the least. what i do care about is the fact that you people cant chill the fuck out and quit bringing religion up. i rarely read any of these messages anymore for the simple fact that you people argue like old people fuck, slow and sloppy. im beginning to think you people dont listen to the words coming out of your mouth. see i was feeling great i just went to see poe in austin ive been on a poe high and then this. religion is something you just dont discuss because most people take it personally. im not on anyones "side" except my own. get off the religious topics and start talking about poe or belly button lint. thank you im done _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:31:23 EST From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. Okay...before I post the original reason I hit reply again (which actually *is* in respect to Harry Potter), someone mentioned the whole Jihad situation. Jihad's WORST translation is "holy war". It actually means "holy effort". When Muslims make that "required by all Muslims at least once in their life if able" trek to Mecca (the Hajj)--that is considered Jihad--it's an effort made for their religion (and no small effort, either! Have you seen what the Hajj consists of? Wow...talk about extreme endurance test!). My comparative religions teacher this semester threw a big fit about that in class one day, actually. He has Muslim friends and was rather angered by what was going on and how certain people were being portrayed. He made a huge point out of saying, "This isn't the whole Muslim community! It's a group of extremists!" Rather like those White Power Organisations that someone mentioned earlier--all they are is a certain branch of Christian extremists...you don't make a judgement on all Christians by what they do, do you? (I hope not!)...In the same line, you don't make judgements on all Muslims by the way some of these people in Bin Laden's al-Qaida network are acting--at least I hope not! And, to go a step further to tie it more to myself, I suppose, you don't judge all pagans and Wiccans by how a few fluffy-bunny type Wiccans act, do you (I most *certainly* hope not! rofl ;-))? Anyways...I hope my point has been made with not too much pain to all of you. Now...to what I was originally replying to... *giggles* >>. If you do, feel free to stand in line for a week to see the movie.<< See--in that respect Harry Potter's smarter than your average movie ;-) They actually pre-sold tickets to opening weekend WEEKS in advance :-D That's how I was able to see it opening day. About three days before the movie my friend bought our tickets--and, apparently, it wasn't a bad line, either :-) Sorry...I'm in a good mood today... And who's picking on khakis? I was just wearing a pair of those on Thanksgiving :-P lol :-) Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:39:58 EST From: StarBuk04@aol.com Subject: set list does anyone have a set list form the houston show? any highlights or personal stories? email me... i have to write a story for my newspaper about the show, and i was in awe the whole time! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:44:49 -0500 From: "~ Sarah ~" Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. hehehe! I suppose everyone's religion (or unreligion, if you prefer) is weak...God <--my opinion--> didn't make us all perfect. Example: I am(was, in a sence) a Roman Catholic, then a Maronite Catholic, then somewhere in between. Many probably don't realize, or choose to ignore, the problems in the Roman Catholics (I have found very few...not none...In the Maronites). I went to a Catholic school, and, I swear to God himself, that the church was evil...Well, because I HAD to go (uh...I didn't want any more trouble that week...believe me, as good a student I am...all a's...I was pretty bad) I made sure I got the meanest priest. I traded someone thier spot. They were SO happy...For Cripes sake, the dumbass priest YELLED at me in the confessional loud enough for the whole church to hear...can you imagine? Luckly, it was only the 8th grade...32 kids...they were ALL snickering when I came out because I yelled right back at him and said exactly how I felt about him and his "holy church" ~Sarah >From: JaunasAddiccion@aol.com >To: , >Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. >Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:43:00 EST > > >oh, don't do that. that's no fun at all. if we all did, we'd be nazis and >that would make me have to kill myself. and you wouldn't want that would >you? (please don't answer that if it's a yes). >opinions are good, it makes people, well me at least, think. tell ya what, >everyone send me your opinions on everything and i'll send you one of mine >back, okay? it'll be like a psycho gift exchange. emphasis on psycho. > >Hey, speaking of religion..... > >Why is Osama Bin Laden still alive? >Bin Laden has declared a Jihad. Intense fighting has been going on for >weeks. Dying in a holy war supposedly gives one a free pass to heaven. Holy >war waging throughout Afghanistan, yet no Bin Laden to be seen. Bin Laden >is running like a coward from his own god....Yeah, NOW who's faith is weak? >well, i think it's a valid point. > >---dan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:46:37 EST From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Re: Oh no, I'm going to Hell >>I think that Christianity and religion per se were all originally cults that just happened to "take off" and end up with a life long following. << Well...think about it for just a minute--sorry if I get flamed for this, but it's the truth. Jesus, much of the basis of Christianity, was Jewish...*shrugs* Which caused a LOT of strife in the early Christian church because then it caused all these problems of "well...he followed this since he was Jewish, should we follow it, too?" And that's when the New Testament came around. The Old Testament is just pretty much the same stories as the Tanakh part of the Torah and the Q'uran--they just all choose a different way to go. Really. Christianity was NOT "here first" like I've heard a lot of people try to claim in the past (I'd like to clarify that I haven't heard it on the list, I'm just throwing it out there because I *have* heard it from people in the past, and I don't *want* to see it on the list). And I need to shut up because I'm only home for one more day (which means not so much time to check up on my AOL mail and the list once I'm back at school tomorrow) so I won't be around much longer, really, to defend myself if it ends up coming to that, and I don't want to get into the theology vs. history side of it. Yes, I enjoy learning about the theologies of religions immensely, but mostly the reason I'm a Comparative Religions major is for the histories--so that's what I tend to use in my arguments *shrugs* Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:50:10 +0000 From: "Andie Mae" Subject: Re: NPR:...The Youngest Psycho? Well... I'm fourteen. Such fun stuff. I'm younger than yooooooooouuuuuuu arrrrrrrrre. - -Andrea- From: "Gretchyn Nothhouse" To: Talk2aPsycho@PoE.org CC: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: KPR:...The Youngest Psycho? Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:37:31 -0600 Well, I kinda feel the same way. I just turned 17 in September, and still feel really young >From: "Bad KiTTiE" >Reply-To: Talk2aPsycho@PoE.org >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: KPR:...The Youngest Psycho? >Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 01:41:25 -0500 > > >As I was reading all of your wonderful accounts I noticed a trend... >I >wasn't there. (::cough:: But seriously, folks...lol...) Even if the >Misteress herself came to CT, I wouldn't be able to hang out at >preshow >places, most likely, because I'm only 17. ... Which leads me to my >question... am I the youngest Psycho in the Ward? I turned 17 on >October >7th. Just wondering. > >~Kittie > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:51:13 EST From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Let's try this again :-P Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. Again...sent to the single person instead of the whole list :-P >>(besides, everybody knows that those kids will be hiding under the cover reading J.K. Rowling at night, I let kids I babysit read it who are forbidden to).<< *laughs* Very cool. I don't like the idea of children having to leave the classroom when teachers read the Harry Potter books because their parents don't want them hearing it. I mean, it's elementary and middle school, and aren't kids already ostricised for enough at that age? And this just adds fuel to the fire, "Oh, you can't stay in the room when we read Harry Potter...hahaha" It's just not right, in my opinion. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:51:41 EST From: Trueluhv2000@aol.com Subject: Re: harry potter wants my kids? npr ppl have a right to raise their kids how they see fit!! YES, but some how they manage to try to preach how others should raise THEIR kids...otherwise, we wouldnt be in this discussion..Id let my kids watch Harry AND I go to church and I am a christian..I just know that it doesnt effect my morals.. geesh!!!!! ITS A MOVIE luhv~n~stuff carri ps..ive seen the movie TWICE already!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:58:41 -0500 From: andrea Subject: Re: NPR:...The Youngest Psycho? No, I'm only thirteen!!!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ~Andrea Ooooo and my name is Andrea too!!!!! > Well... I'm fourteen. Such fun stuff. I'm younger than yooooooooouuuuuuu > arrrrrrrrre. > > -Andrea- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:01:16 -0800 From: bash Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. Ye were appointed list boss when? Another Prozac for the kitty, please... Ps - I tried responding privately a few emails back, but the other fellow dragged it back here. Prozackitty16@aol.com wrote: > > Why the hell are you 2 arguing openly to the list?!? We DONT CARE about your > petty stuff!! Take it on some personal emails....k? > > ~Gypsy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:02:23 EST From: LotteP0T0@aol.com Subject: Re: harry potter wants my kids? >>I believe some of you said children should have the choice...Ok, well, should she have the choice of reading something else in school? Or should she fail if she doesn't read it? I realize this IS school, and you do have to do some things you don't like, but since when did teachers do what probably majority of the students wanted to do? I mean, reading IS an important part of life...you can't just be a teacher and decide to read a book with your class on a whim. I wonder if teachers even read the books befor giving them to students.<< Okay...I completely disagree with this. In high school I had to read numerous Shakespeare plays, and next semester I have to take an entire class called Shakespeare because I'm a Theatre Performance major (yes I'm a double major for those of you who saw me say I was a Comparative Religions major in the one reply), and I *DESPISE* reading Shakespeare. If we're going to get into this argument, shouldn't I have been able to choose something besides Romeo and Juliet or Julius Caesar? Your reply is probably going to be, "but Shakespeare is classic." Well--Harry Potter is already being touted that it's going to rank right up there with the children's classics such as the C.S. Lewis novels (The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe series), the Lord of the Rings novels, Alice in Wonderland, and the like. I find it very important for children to at least have a basic knowledge of pop culture (the same reason I still occasionally listen to popular music styles that I can't necessarily stand) and classics--so that they at least know what's out there. It's why I tolerate Shakespeare (I admit, I love watching Shakespeare performed onstage, or even if it happens to be an excellent movie adaptation--I just can't stand to read it)--because it's more for me to know and understand. It's the reason I watch movies and read books that I know very well I most likely won't like--because it expands what I already know, and it gives me something in common with everyone else who might have read them--something to at least talk about in conversation if we can't come up with anything else. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:05:32 -0800 From: bash Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. What ticked me off was being told to STOP voicing my opinion, and my right to do so what what I was arguing about. I don't care who agrees and who doesn't with my original opinion about the sermon. JaunasAddiccion@aol.com wrote: > > My take on life: > Voicing your opinion doesn't mean you have to convince someone else that you're right, it usually just means there is something on yourmind that you'd like to talk about. > If you are voicing an opinion solely to convince someone else that you're right, then you aren't actually voicing an opinion as you are attempting to persuade someone that you're right. it is also referred to as 'forcing your opinion on someone' which is what i think Jeff was trying to get across, but I could be wrong...wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last (hopefully). > ---dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:13:52 -0800 From: bash Subject: Re: NPR: Harry Potter and the Anti-Church. Bad KiTTiE wrote: > > ... Oh and another thing? The cross burning/white sheet comment was entirely > ridiculous, uncalled for, and ignorant. Bringing something as hateful and > low as White Power Organizations into a conversation of understanding, or > lack thereof, of a Children's Book Series controversy says nothing for > intelligence. It WAS used intentionally to be ridiculous, but to illustrated how dangerous extremist views can be. Yes, for the sermon, the views were focused on something harmless, and here's hoping that that's as far as that congregation ever goes. ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #526 ***********************************