From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #515 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Saturday, November 17 2001 Volume 06 : Number 515 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPR What POE really WANTED to say on WBER ["Ryan Palmer" ] Pittsburgh Pre and Post Show [EXej@aol.com] Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #514 [Wes Overall ] Re: NPR: What POE really WANTED to say on WBER ["brendles" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 15:58:06 -0800 From: "Ryan Palmer" Subject: Re: NPR What POE really WANTED to say on WBER I've agreed with that statement ever since KROQ came into existence ^^ >From: "AT" >To: >Subject: What POE really WANTED to say on WBER >Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:24:20 -0800 > > >KROQ sucks. It sucks ASS. It sucks big hairy infected weenie. >Angry Terry , former KROQ listener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:01:57 EST From: Sharonda220@aol.com Subject: NPR: a tribute to our soldiers Night Before Christmas 2001 'TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, HE LIVED ALL ALONE, IN A ONE BEDROOM HOUSE MADE OF PLASTER AND STONE. I HAD COME DOWN THE CHIMNEY WITH PRESENTS TO GIVE, AND TO SEE JUST WHO IN THIS HOME DID LIVE. I LOOKED ALL ABOUT, A STRANGE SIGHT I DID SEE, NO TINSEL, NO PRESENTS, NOT EVEN A TREE. NO STOCKING BY MANTLE, JUST BOOTS FILLED WITH SAND, AND ON THE WALL PICTURES OF FAR DISTANT LANDS. WITH MEDALS AND BADGES, AWARDS OF ALL KINDS, A SOBERING THOUGHT CAME TO MY MIND. FOR THIS HOUSE WAS DIFFERENT, SO DARK AND SO DREARY, THE HOME OF A SOLDIER, NOW I COULD SEE CLEARLY. THE SOLDIER LAY SLEEPING, SILENT, ALONE, CURLED UP ON THE FLOOR IN THIS ONE BEDROOM HOME. THE FACE WAS SO GENTLE, THE ROOM IN SUCH DISORDER, NOT HOW I PICTURED A UNITED STATES SOLDIER. WAS THIS THE HERO OF WHOM I'D JUST READ? CURLED UP ON A PONCHO, THE FLOOR FOR A BED? I REALIZED THE FAMILIES THAT I SAW THIS NIGHT, OWED THEIR LIVES TO THESE SOLDIERS WHO WERE WILLING TO FIGHT. SOON ROUND THE WORLD, THE CHILDREN WOULD PLAY, AND GROWNUPS WOULD CELEBRATE A BRIGHT CHRISTMAS DAY. THEY ALL ENJOYED FREEDOM EACH MONTH OF THE YEAR, BECAUSE OF THE SOLDIERS, LIKE THE ONE LYING HERE. I COULDN'T HELP WONDER HOW MANY LAY ALONE, ON A COLD CHRISTMAS EVE IN A LAND FAR FROM HOME. THE VERY THOUGHT BROUGHT A TEAR TO MY EYE, I DROPPED TO MY KNEES AND STARTED TO CRY. THE SOLDIER AWAKENED AND I HEARD A ROUGH VOICE, "SANTA DON'T CRY, THIS LIFE IS MY CHOICE; I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM, I DON'T ASK FOR MORE, MY LIFE IS MY GOD, MY COUNTRY, MY CORPS." THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER AND SOON DRIFTED TO SLEEP, I COULDN'T CONTROL IT, I CONTINUED TO WEEP. I KEPT WATCH FOR HOURS, SO SILENT AND STILL, AND WE BOTH SHIVERED FROM THE COLD EVENING'S CHILL. I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE ON THAT COLD, DARK NIGHT, THIS GUARDIAN OF HONOR SO WILLING TO FIGHT. THEN THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER, WITH A VOICE SOFT AND PURE, WHISPERED, "CARRY ON SANTA, IT'S CHRISTMAS DAY, ALL IS SECURE." ONE LOOK AT MY WATCH, AND I KNEW HE WAS RIGHT. "MERRY CHRISTMAS MY FRIEND, AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT." This poem was written by a Marine stationed in Okinawa Japan. The following is his request. I think it is reasonable Please. Would you do me the kind favor of sending this to as many people as you can? Christmas will be coming soon and some credit is due to our U.S. servicemen and women for our being able to celebrate these festivities. Let's try in this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. Make people stop and think of our heroes, living and dead, who sacrificed themselves for us. Please, do your small part to plant this small seed. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:02:30 -0800 (PST) From: Miki Proud Subject: Re: NY SHOW > Um, okay........sorry........but from where I was > standing, he went back down > to the floor and then fell on me......and my > recording equipment....and from > what I heard afterwords, he wasn't supposed to be up > on stage........but > whatever, maybe I misunderstood what I was > told..........thanks to everyone > who sent me really obnoxious letters. I hope next > time you make a mistake > people are huge assholes to you, too. I feel really > welcome on this list. > > Sara hehe, they don't call us ANGRY PSYCHOS for nothing. Just for the record, Poe pulls people up on stage all the time. I myself have been pulled up three times in the two shows I've been to on this tour. She likes audience participation. I understand how much it sucks when people jostle you though. I got my shoulder dislocated in SLC from the mass amounts of pushing I received standing up at the front of the stage. Anyway, take heed that most of this group will start an argument over pretty much anything. Don't feel too horribly picked on. If no one ever sent you hate mail, you wouldn't truly be an AP. Much Love Miki ===== I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... Let the angels grace the land, for I have held you in my hand. And right there for a minute, I knew you so well Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:45:49 EST From: EXej@aol.com Subject: Pittsburgh Pre and Post Show Angry Psychos are flocking from all over North America to see TOE and P-O-E in Pittsburgh. Just to finalize a few things: It looks like the best time for everyone to meet is between 5 and 6 at Wendy's. I have no problems with that, and hope to meet up with some of the old skool psychos even before that. But, I'm NOT waiting around for people if it's close to time for doors to open. For those who do not yet have tickets, I bought my ticket at Laga today and I just now called and they said they should definitely have them for sale at the door for $15 plus or minus whatever service charge they feel necessary. The first 12 psychos that meet up with me will get a very very limited edition Poe item... remember, I'll be the annoying white man in the yellow coat... with many pockets. I may resemble the person who's photo is at www.shelle.org or I may look completely different, depending on how I feel... Now, since there seems to be a rather decent out of town crowd coming in for the show, who thinks we should have a postparty? We can't use my house, but there has GOT to be something we can do postshow... ideas? Thanks to whoever fought out where the heck we should meet and such... - -Erik - --------------- This message is a Public Service Announcement brought to you by ShellE Productions. For more information, including the Poe discography, the Idiot's Guide to the House of Leaves and lots of other amazing material, check out www.shelle.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:55:31 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Overall Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #514 Instead of Jen642 selling the new material on ebay, she should release it on Morpheus (or some other Napster-like site) or see about having it uploaded on p-o-e.com or poe.org... so everybody can hear it. Sure go ahead and sell the hard copies, that's fine, but let the rest of us have a chance to hear it first! (This addes to the speculation of who Jen642 really is, which has been brought up on the boards at p-o-e.org, she has stuff that some never even new existed! And multiple quanities! And has been selling it all on ebay! Which goes to show that it is either Poe herself, or someone from the record company very close to her...) >>Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:58:48 +0000 (GMT) >>From: Cyberfan Corporation >>Subject: Re: interesting Poe tidbit >>On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 KrodKnid@aol.com wrote: > > Poe supplied a tantalizing bit of information regarding her new material last > night after the Bogart's show. The last thing she said before Craig finally > got her on the bus was to some people she had been having an earnest > conversation with. It was something to the effect that she has 42 new songs > finished (I believe she indicated they are already recorded even)...but the > problem is that they are ALL "owned" by Atlantic, and with things up in the > air with those people the fate of this material is, as yet, uncertain. > >>NO worries... >>I heard Jen642 is putting it all on Ebay in a week. Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 20:41:39 -0600 From: "brendles" Subject: Re: NPR: What POE really WANTED to say on WBER I have to agree with you now, but I used to love KROQ back in the day of Richard Blade and the Poorman (grrrr...there I go, dating myself again). Bren - ----- Original Message ----- From: "AT" To: Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:24 PM Subject: What POE really WANTED to say on WBER > > KROQ sucks. It sucks ASS. It sucks big hairy infected weenie. > Angry Terry , former KROQ listener ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 22:10:58 EST From: JewlyaINAP@aol.com Subject: Re: NYC show... thoughts. So here I am writing this about 9:27.....aprx when she was on last night. I had work and all and a heart break this afternoon (my LTR man is taking another woman on a 7 day cruise), but I bypass onto better subjects. I would like to firstoff tell EVERYONE I met last night: YOU FREAKING ROCK!! Ya'll are all that AND a bag of chips AND a soda, and all else. As for my whole experience, I got there at about 4:30 or so, and I met up with Cara < violetnightsky> HAPPY BIRTHDAY and her awsome friend and RA whose name I cannot remember for the life of me. She was totally awsome tho:) We chilled outside while waiting for SOMETHING of excitement to happen, and by in large, aside from randoms walking by, and a chick who claimed to know me, nothing exciting happend. Craig came out, and I was all hello hello...we actually had a curt but amusingly nice exchange..and random band members came by, and finally Poe herself got to the venue. LOVELY LOVELY LOVELY POE. I can't write much, I am too freaking burnttired. but...I was right in front of the mic stand, the beautiful woman was all that and more, and I swear I cannot wait till the next time I see her. She is amazing and beyond words. She pulled me up on stage, Beautiful Girl, I belive...but I am so in mindshock right now, I am only partially sure...I have NO idea what was up with the bar issue, but at about 1 am. (yes. I am.) only about 7 of us exsisted...and well, she finally came up and signed things and took photos. It was hillarious, Craig was doing some light rushing, and was mentioning how she was rushing to go to her mom, who lives in NYC and she almost never sees. So he goes, "Poe, your mom, , who you never see" She's like "Oh yea HER...k, hol on....and continues on... Shes a laugh riot.I am just droping a note not for any deep insight but to mention that ya'll know what? If you clear your mind, and go in to no matter what have a good time, all will be good:) I loved the show, and yes, there were a couple of annoying moments, like the hour and a half wait until she came out...but for the most part...I wouldnt miss it, or change it, for the world. The woman is a artistic genius in my mind, and allowing normal exsistence to mar the whole experience would be silly. To those going, I say: "block out the world, its a you and poe experience, even if you're stuck in the back.or craig temporarily is short with you. or some bizatch wants to piss you off. I was saying to someone, I went to 3 tori shows this year, and you know what? I felt closer vibes to the people, ap and poe alike, in 8 hours, than I did at all 3 tori shows. and Tori shows kicked ass. Now MY TAKE, on craig Listen you guys, and appeal, you may flame me, but if you do, as someone said, DELETE BUTTON:) Craig is trying REALLY hard to actually make a sorta mellow peace with us, I am sure. Those people were panteene people and poes and bands friends, shit goes down. He really wont snap at you unless he's in a BAD mood or you really ask him at a bad time, or for something impossible, I belive. The fact of the matter is, he has a tense sense of humor and personality. I was able to witness it for a bit, and he's like that with EVERYONE even venue staff and TOE... Whatever Whatever...you can disagree based on opinion and experience, but the man hasa life, and a family and has gotta be under the pressure. But whatever , that's my two overtired cents. I appologize if he offended or hurt you at any time or anyway, and you think my rant is B.S.....All I know is, when Poe did finally come out at 1 am, we 4 were standing there, and he really seemed super human/mortal. Got me thinking, he's just a guy, with a job, keeping up with his responsibilities, and sending a buck home to the family. I think he knows now he has got to make a peace with us, and he IS doing what he can. If anyone wants to bitch or chat with me, cause oh, the secrets I can tell, IM me at JewlyaINAP@aol.com, otherwise, I dont think this list needs another flamewar, Whether or not you love me, I love you all AP's:) We are all AP's when it comes down, people appriciating the work of Poe, and hell, no matter what yer like, that makes you A-1 in my book:) Ciao, adios, shalom, arivaderchi, Cheerio-Pip-Pip, and Goodnight, this overtired angry psycho MUST end her rant;) Thanks for reading if you got this far. :P Sharmel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 23:39:14 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NY SHOW In a message dated 11/16/2001 6:43:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, AMCFLND1@aol.com writes: > Um, okay........sorry........but from where I was standing, he went back > down > to the floor and then fell on me......and my recording equipment....and > from > what I heard afterwords, he wasn't supposed to be up on stage........but > whatever, maybe I misunderstood what I was told..........thanks to everyone > > who sent me really obnoxious letters. I hope next time you make a mistake > people are huge assholes to you, too. I feel really welcome on this list. > > Sara > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What, you haven't picked up your flame retardant asbestos suit yet? It comes free with a subscription to the list:-) At least you missed out on the Xeno era. Anywhoo, welcome to the Angry Psychos...there are a bunch of other Sara Psychos, so maybe we'll need a special name for you...or maybe we just need a special AP chapter named SaraPsychos...yeah! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 23:46:50 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Pittsburgh Pre and Post Show In a message dated 11/16/2001 7:46:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, EXej@aol.com writes: > TOE and P-O-E > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hehehehe...Think of England and Peak of Euphoria? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 23:59:43 EST From: GabriKn@aol.com Subject: New York, Take Me Down Village Underground well 24 hours later got lots to say I suppose on what was for the most part a great experience For one the Village Underground was very intimate and small, but at the same time cool and seemingly with the exception of maybe getting a bigger stage its a great overall venue. We actually made it there a quarter after 8 thanks to my sisters genius thinking. I had ran into a few APs, John being all decked out in Psycho gear (reverting to his PCU quote wednesday night) and "princess" Sara (albeit she doesnt post), Thinks Of England was a very good opening act, its kinda hard to believe that they aren't signed thats how good they were. Then Poe, what can I say? Just magnificent, well played out set. And while I admit I miss having a Celloist up there this band was still very very tight and we were all loving it. With the exception of Angry Johnny, Rob honestly knew none of Poes work and he told me afterwards how into it all he was. Coming out to the Star Wars intro was sweet, and being told by Poe "Hey I recognize the mass of you guys, I know where you all live" is a semi relief cause I keep worrying Im the one being the stalker:). Let me also go on the record to say I was standing next to Jeff and Poe did in fact call him onto the stage and he went up, at the same time though I'm sorry you got trampled on there Sara. Charmene didnt admit it in her post but she was onstage for Beautiful Girl. And I was one of the selected to sing along to Haunted when Poe came down into the fans which was very very cool, she also got my sister on mic which I thought was hysterical cause she got all nervous and shy and stuff, ok you had to see it but it was funny. From what I had made out of the "shouting" during the 9/11 speech was someone going "We'll build bigger and stronger towers!", honestly that wasnt all too horrible if you ask me. During all that I had my Yankee hat heald up very high and while everyone was cheering I yelled "YOU CANT STOP NEW YORK!" which to be honest I doubt was heard thats how loud it was. Also near the end I yelled out for How Long, to Poes response of "Oh man, thats a good one, we havent done that in a while!" which was also cool if you ask me. Well afterwards, to be honest for the most part look at Johns post, he and I were together on this whole thing. For one theres a meet and greet, something that the AP's had created, but instead of us its a bunch of people who some jabroni is just handing out stickers to randomly. And then outside at the bus, now knowing that this was in fact Craig, Poe is trying to get to us and he's all like "No you're going inside and taking care of that!" with a full on attitude much to Poes disagreement. Now I know theres alot of this opinion thing going on about Craig right now but im going to say it like this, in the words of Cameron in Ferris Buehlers Day Off "You sir are an ASSHOLE". I understand completley doing your job and all that but this level of attitude he was giving off was simply uncalled for, and I hear all this about how Poe doesnt like the hate going around but last night this man was being hatefull, whos going to put him in line for it? I in no way shape or form blame Poe for not getting to the AP's last night and im not spitefull about it myself, I've had the privalge to meet her twice now, this is more for the people there who had never met up with her before on this list who were dying to get that chance and I know for a fact deep down Ed really wanted to meet her. never the less I do take out something very positive out of this, and thats having met a good number of APs face to face. Chilling out with Sara, John, Charmene, Jill, Cara (hope you had a happy birthday btw), Ben, Sara, and the masses was really cool to me. I dont think being AP is some kind of privlage which means you get to meet Poe no matter what the circumstances, I think we're supposed to be a community and family together, every now and again we should be reminded of it and to me last night did that for me. And besides, anyone who didnt get to meet her, or for that matter did, I can assure you theres gonna be another chance alot sooner than you think. Ian-Deathsythe 4:20 "Anyone who sees me has got a date with their maker" Duo Maxwell "I just smoked your ass!" Rob Van Dam ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 00:06:19 EST From: Fumbler310@aol.com Subject: Re: NY SHOW Um excuse me, but i dont think i was at ALL a "huge asshole" to you. All i did was dawn light on the events of which you mentioned.... ~ Steve > Um, okay........sorry........but from where I was standing, he went back > down > to the floor and then fell on me......and my recording equipment....and > from > what I heard afterwords, he wasn't supposed to be up on stage........but > whatever, maybe I misunderstood what I was told..........thanks to everyone > > who sent me really obnoxious letters. I hope next time you make a mistake > people are huge assholes to you, too. I feel really welcome on this list. > > < > > The guy who went onstage during Wild was my friend Jeff, and he definitly > > > did > > NOT freak Poe out...infact she PULLED him onstage and was singing wild to > > > him, and then when it got to the "you got alot of nerve to come back > here" > > part, she PUSHED HIM OFF THE STAGE!!! HAHAA i love her she is so F*CKING > MUCH ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 00:10:25 EST From: JewlyaINAP@aol.com Subject: NY SHOW K...silly here: Did anyone take a photo when I was on stage with Poe and Leah and the haunted lil girl??? Please say yes.. I got photos too, and I will trade for one of me with her onstage:) Sharmie.....hoping ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 21:55:15 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stachitus Subject: I touched Ziggy's ass tonight!!! Oh My God! tonight was the first time i had ever seen Poe live and in the flesh... let me just say that it was magical. i thought she was wonderful and fan loving from what everyone said but i wasn't expecting so much love from her as she projected out to the crowd. it was just wonderful beyond all words i can think of. i got to touch her like five times, she was standing next to me dancing the second time she walked in the audience. she jumped into the crowd right on top of me almost. when ziggy did some crowd surfing i touched his ass twice. my boyfriend caught the last drum stick they threw to the crowd. as i sit here typeing i am also staring in disbelief that i actually have the drum stick. does anyone know the drummer's name at the rochester show? i'm tryng to decide if he signed the stick or if a name is just printed on it. any help would nice. now i coud be wrong, but in exactly a month from this concert i'm going to see ozzy with my boyfriend, and i just don't think he is going to be able to impress me half as much as Poe did tonight. for that matter i don't think anyone can right now. well, i have to try to calm down, i'm a little wired. good night. Laura Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 01:23:12 -0500 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: RE: I touched Ziggy's ass tonight!!! The drummer is Nate.. :) He is so @#$(#* amazing.. Just sit and watch him, and you'll be amazed... >===== Original Message From Laura Stachitus < lilie_of_peace@yahoo.com> ===== >Oh My God! tonight was the first time i had ever seen >Poe live and in the flesh... let me just say that it >was magical. i thought she was wonderful and fan >loving from what everyone said but i wasn't expecting >so much love from her as she projected out to the >crowd. it was just wonderful beyond all words i can >think of. i got to touch her like five times, she was >standing next to me dancing the second time she walked >in the audience. she jumped into the crowd right on >top of me almost. when ziggy did some crowd surfing i >touched his ass twice. my boyfriend caught the last >drum stick they threw to the crowd. as i sit here >typeing i am also staring in disbelief that i actually >have the drum stick. does anyone know the drummer's >name at the rochester show? i'm tryng to decide if he >signed the stick or if a name is just printed on it. >any help would nice. > >now i coud be wrong, but in exactly a month from this >concert i'm going to see ozzy with my boyfriend, and i >just don't think he is going to be able to impress me >half as much as Poe did tonight. for that matter i >don't think anyone can right now. > >well, i have to try to calm down, i'm a little wired. >good night. >Laura >Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals >http://personals.yahoo.com - -Ed (Divinity) ed@poe.org http://divinity.relic.net ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #515 ***********************************