From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #508 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Tuesday, November 13 2001 Volume 06 : Number 508 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Atlanta Show (Lodging info) ["Notajunkie" ] Re: NPR: Someone had to start us up again... [K3285@aol.com] atlanta/AJC/rose jacket/more [agentorange2@mindspring.com] Poe in SF [Bea Ortega ] Haunted Lyrics [Bea Ortega ] Choices: Friend or Poe? ["The Little Indian Girl that Hails Saltines" ] CLEVELAND BAYBEE! [SnugaKitn@aol.com] Choices: Friend or Poe? [CrazyasDeLuca@aol.com] Re: Choices: Friend or Poe? [JewlyaINAP@aol.com] Re: Choices: Friend or Poe? [JaunasAddiccion@aol.com] Re: Choices: Friend or Poe? ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: My take on Craig; a differant opinion. [Dan98908@aol.com] VPR: Conversation with POE in Cleveland ["Tim Dube" ] NPR: AB FAB!! [Brett Carter ] NPR Re: AB FAB!! ["Notajunkie" ] Re: NPR:yearbook quote [Thinggeee@aol.com] Re: Choices: Friend or Poe? [KrodKnid@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:47:00 -0500 From: "Notajunkie" Subject: Re: Atlanta Show (Lodging info) Oh, Oh, Oh... I know that someone else on this list is driving from Tallahassee....you two should talk...maybe come up together... On a related note... A friend of mine works for Marriott, and he can get me a hotel room at the Marriott Marquis for only $69, up to four people... The hotel is less then a mile from the venue (a short 3 min drive) so it IS within walking distance, which will be nice. So far...it's just me. SO, if anyone is coming in from out of town, and needs a place to stay that night, join me, and get an awesome discount rate at a kick-ass hotel. :-) The more people that stay, the cheaper it will be. :-) If 3 other people stay with me, it will be around only $20 per person (w/ taxes and shit) this might also be a nice place to meet before hand, if the venue is uncooperative Hotel Info: http://www.marriotthotels.com/dpp/PropertyPage.asp?MarshaCode=ATLMQ&checked= True&Marriott_BD={BBAF4533-B369-4C89-8A48-F77B0A1CE911} Map to venue from hotel: http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/mqtrip?link=btwn%2Ftwn-ddir_na_basic_main&ui d=uxd8x2p782r4qewa%3A2x0uba067w&oabgcderr=&dabgcderr=&avoid_ferry=&avoid_lmT D_access=&avoid_toll_roads=&route_type=&results_display_mode=&LangOpt=&AB_LA BELS=&WORK=&CCNA=&ADDR_0=152+Luckie+Street&OPC=null&CITY_0=atlanta&STATE_0=g a&ZIP_0=&CC_0=US&ADDR_1=265+Peachtree+Center+Avenue&DPC=null&CITY_1=atlanta& STATE_1=ga&ZIP_1=&CC_1=US&POIRad=2.0&dir.x=39&dir.y=11 e-mail me, or call me :-D notajunkie@yahoo.com home: (912) 354-0878 (ask for Pete) cell: (912) 604-1411 P.S. If response is large...MIGHT be possible to get a second room for same price. Keyword= MIGHT ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:55:41 EST From: K3285@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Someone had to start us up again... In a message dated 11/12/01 4:41:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, LiveThruThisVow@aol.com writes: > I certainly HOPE Joan Jett wouldn't give > Britney the right to cover that song. Joan did not write I Love Rock And Roll, hence she has no say in the matter of who covers the song. But basically, anyone can cover any song as long as they pay royalties to the songwriter or whoever owns the copyright. Melissa Melissa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:03:25 -0500 From: agentorange2@mindspring.com Subject: atlanta/AJC/rose jacket/more 1 - ATLANTA / A.J.C. In today's "Atlanta Journal-Constitution" paper there was a small blurb on my store, our Madonna party we're having tonight & of course I got POE mentioned!!! here is the link: http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/living/buzz/index.html [this link will only be good for another 10 hrs or so.] have a look. it has also been posted on the www.p-o-e.com BB. go have a look there, there are several articles & such... and POE needs some hits on her atlantic page... even IF there is drama with atlantic... i guess that means IF there is.. she needs more hits now than ever! 2 - ROSE JACKET @ POE SHOP i found out today that there is another rose jacket in the POE shop. i wish there were some for males.... hopefully in the future. I know there were nore people on here wanting that jacket.. so I thought I'd pass the info along. go to the POE shop via www.p-o-e.com that's all for now... wish me luck with the madonna party tonight!!! - -rusty www.rustyshelby.cjb.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:17:54 -0800 From: Bea Ortega Subject: Poe in SF Does anyone going to the San Francisco show actually live in the City? I'd love to help find someplace to meet either before or after the show, but it's hard when I live a half hour south of the City. Poe Rocks! Bea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:24:02 -0800 From: Bea Ortega Subject: Haunted Lyrics Here's the best site I've found for Lyrics to Haunted: http://www.geocities.com/run_rom_run/POEs_Place/poelyrics.html At least Not A Virgin seems right! Bea - -- ***************************************** Bea Ortega Customer Support Pegasus Products Group (650) 965-2576 or 1(800) 965-2580 www.pegasusmail.com www.myschoolwear.com ***************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:21:42 +0000 From: "The Little Indian Girl that Hails Saltines" Subject: Choices: Friend or Poe? Hey Psychos. I really need your help on this one...please read this if you have a couple of minutes...please....I have a dillema: I am one of the six people that is to sing with Poe at the Roxy on November 29th. The problem? A girl whom I have known since kindergarten, was born on the same day in the SAME HOSPITAL as me, was the girl who got me INTO Poe in the first place, AND has been one of my closest friends since the sixth grade (we are now in the 12th grade) is also SUPPOSED to be one of the people to sing with Poe. For some reason (I am guessing the reason is because she is not on the AP list...which is because she doesn't own the internet because of her paranoid and neurotic parents) she is no longer one of the people. I am really really angry and hurt about this...especially since I already TOLD HER it was going to happen. She was soooo happy and excited...I CAN'T burst her bubble. I just told Gypsy (prozackitty16) that if she can't sing with Poe, I won't sing with Poe. A friend of mine is telling me I should go ahead and do it anyway because my friend should be happy for me regardless of the fact that she'll be furious she is not up there with me. I don't know what to do. I am a singer...it's what I do...it's what I'm good at, and I've DREAMED of being on stage with someone I admire since I was a little girl. I thought it was going to happen...and it was going to be a huuuge plus that I would be able to share this amazing experience with one of my best friends, but now I don't know which is more important. I don't know if I should expect her to be happy for me or if I should just drop out. I'd feel like shit shit shit if I went up there without her, and I'd feel like shit shit shit if I knew I was supposed to be up there but I chose to be with my friend instead. I don't know which shit feels worse...and unfortunatly, it's not possible for me to know which shit feels worse...I'll only know one or the other. I really don't know what to do...I need some advice. Please help me. Thanks. ~Ani _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:42:11 -0800 From: Dawn Goei Subject: RE: Choices: Friend or Poe? Hi everyone, I am new to this list, I have been watching for a little over a week I think. :) Anyway, I think you should sing with Poe. I don't think your friend will be very upset with you, but more with her parents for not letting her have a computer, therefore she cannot be signed up on the list and she cannot sing with Poe. I sang with Poe twice during the Depeche Mode tour and it was something I will never forget. I am sure your friend will be in the audience smiling and singing along with you and Poe. I am sure she will love to see you up there, then you both can talk about the experience! Good luck! If she gets very very very mad, and stays that way, then that is when I would drop out. :) Dawn - -----Original Message----- From: The Little Indian Girl that Hails Saltines [mailto:hailsaltns@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 5:22 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Choices: Friend or Poe? Hey Psychos. I really need your help on this one...please read this if you have a couple of minutes...please....I have a dillema: I am one of the six people that is to sing with Poe at the Roxy on November 29th. The problem? A girl whom I have known since kindergarten, was born on the same day in the SAME HOSPITAL as me, was the girl who got me INTO Poe in the first place, AND has been one of my closest friends since the sixth grade (we are now in the 12th grade) is also SUPPOSED to be one of the people to sing with Poe. For some reason (I am guessing the reason is because she is not on the AP list...which is because she doesn't own the internet because of her paranoid and neurotic parents) she is no longer one of the people. I am really really angry and hurt about this...especially since I already TOLD HER it was going to happen. She was soooo happy and excited...I CAN'T burst her bubble. I just told Gypsy (prozackitty16) that if she can't sing with Poe, I won't sing with Poe. A friend of mine is telling me I should go ahead and do it anyway because my friend should be happy for me regardless of the fact that she'll be furious she is not up there with me. I don't know what to do. I am a singer...it's what I do...it's what I'm good at, and I've DREAMED of being on stage with someone I admire since I was a little girl. I thought it was going to happen...and it was going to be a huuuge plus that I would be able to share this amazing experience with one of my best friends, but now I don't know which is more important. I don't know if I should expect her to be happy for me or if I should just drop out. I'd feel like shit shit shit if I went up there without her, and I'd feel like shit shit shit if I knew I was supposed to be up there but I chose to be with my friend instead. I don't know which shit feels worse...and unfortunatly, it's not possible for me to know which shit feels worse...I'll only know one or the other. I really don't know what to do...I need some advice. Please help me. Thanks. ~Ani _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:50:14 EST From: SnugaKitn@aol.com Subject: CLEVELAND BAYBEE! After the Rock Hall show I was feeling a bit down about where the angry psychos were and how badly that show sucked (by no fault of Poe). It was the worst concert I had ever been to....and afterwards I felt so disillusioned. I found myself dreading this concert more as the political fiascos began to unfold. But this show....Was far and beyond the BEST show I have ever seen. I have seen Poe 10 times now, twice before in that SAME venue.... I felt it the minute the Psycho Caravan arrived at my garbage heap....i mean APARTMENT... That feeling of excitement and comradery from Richmond 1997 was back for me. I was not just surrounded by poe fans...I was with friends.... As we moved our way thru the crowd we began to find other Psychos...more familiar friendly faces....Soon we were like a giant AP bloodclot in the crowd.... Poe was at her best, and the mix between the old and the new was absolute perfection. Bouncing around like a Poe-go stick (heehee) to Choking The Cherry brought it all back for me. We were slowly making out way out (very slowly heh) and Craig asked us to stick around, cuz Poe wanted to talk to us. Totally unexpected and totally wonderful...what a gift! Even the sobering questions looming overhead that nite could not completely dampen our spirits. The Psycho Caravan went out in search for a Denny's as Anf had the munchies (when does he ever not?!) and I had not eaten all day...The closest thing we could find was this sad little excuse for an all nite diner. But then again, even the seediest spot on earth seems like fun when u are in the company of good friends. What happened to those days? Why does it seem like a complete suprise to feel it again? I miss those days...when it wasn't just all about Poe. When I went to Richmond back in 1997, I went for 2 reasons. To see Poe sing, and to meet my online friends. Back then it was just as much about each other as it was about Poe. It was about people who love music...who come from all walks of life, coming together...we were a family... I would go on, but I am far too happy about last nite's show to let any of this ruin it for me. Life is just a series of moments to cherish for what they are worth. This was worth more than gold..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:54:38 EST From: CrazyasDeLuca@aol.com Subject: Choices: Friend or Poe? Aw, it is a tough one, but one of your choices involves a gesture of kindness and selflessness. I do know that your friend probably won't say anything mean to you, but maybe she might feel bad. Put yourself in her shoes for a second. I mean, honestly try to envision this down to every detail. You can feel the bass from the music and you know it's almost time for your friend to go onstage. You remember that, supposedly, you were supposed to go onstage too. Maybe the venue is smoked up from smoke machines. Maybe Craig just took someone's camera and you snicker as you're thinking about telling the list about it. All of a sudden, you watch your friend go by with a huge nervous smile. You're happy for her and, yeah, when security isn't looking, you snap a picture. But naturally, you feel a twinge of envy. Just think if maybe you stayed down with her, belting out the lyrics to every song and dancing crazedly, wouldn't she appreciate that? ...Am I full of shit or did that mean something? lol - -Bridgibutt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:59:17 EST From: JewlyaINAP@aol.com Subject: Re: Choices: Friend or Poe? How does an AP GET on the Walk the walk singing list anyways? Sharmie, asking for the general populous, as well as lil me:) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:08:02 EST From: JaunasAddiccion@aol.com Subject: Re: Choices: Friend or Poe? If you wanna ask me, i'd have to say that if this friend is any type of friend worth keeping then it'll be understandable...i mean, singing's your thing, right? well, can't your friend be happy for you to the point that being on stage doesn't really matter? friendship is supposed to be understanding. this is a rare experience, ya gotta take it! But ya know what I would do if I were in this situation? of course not, but I'll tell you: I'd hold my friend's hand really tight when i was put on stage and pull when i got pulled up. i doubt anyone would notice or mind the extra person... I'm sure Poe wouldn't mind... just don't get rowdy, that might upset things... - ---dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:11:46 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: Choices: Friend or Poe? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:08 PM Subject: Re: Choices: Friend or Poe? Stick with your friends.... sp00k etc ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:53:50 EST From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: My take on Craig; a differant opinion. In a message dated 11/12/2001 2:49:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, dedybear@hotmail.com writes: > > Forgive me if maybe Craig was rude to you specifically, I am not trying to > attack you. I do have to say something though. I met Craig this weekend; > and he did seem a rather short. He did however, do his best to be polite. > > I think this whole 'hate craig' thing is getting out of control. "Craig is > > a great guy, with the worst job." Poe said this in front of me Saturday > night. I was thinking that, YES Craig is a big part of the reason that Poe > > doesn't come sign autographs after concerts and what not; but he has to > watch out for the bigger picture. The concert I went to was on 11-10-2001 > at the Shelter. He came back after the concert and appoligized to Poe for > not letting her go sign autographs. He also had informed us earlier that > evening that they had an interview at 8am the next morning. It was then > almost 3. So that is my comment. Lets give the guy a break, he is doing > his job. If he didn't Poe would probably be too tired to go to the next > show, or fight to get the publicity she needs and deserves. > > I truly think that we should think of why he does things before we set out > a > huge attack on him. > Now THAT is STYLE!!! That is what I was talking about!!! I don't think ANY of us question how important and difficult the job is Craig must do. His role is crucial to Poe in so many ways! Sounds like in this case he acted like he CARED and that is what seemed to be missing to me in the past. After SLC he asked a group to wait for some posters, it looks to ME like Craig is growing with this tour and he is making an effort! That is wonderful to hear and I hope ALL of us will cut him some slack and maybe even THANK him for the kindness he is starting to show....THAT would be style on our part! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:03:32 -0800 From: "Tim Dube" Subject: VPR: Conversation with POE in Cleveland Well as I said in my previous email Poe and I went backstage and had a talk. The Angie and Craig bashing has to stop. That is something that is not making her happy. And I can't blame her. To our credit I think most people have realized that it was uncalled for and have apologized about any attacks they have directed toward Craig or Angie. In regards to meet and greets she stressed that she promises to put out the best cd's she can and perform the best she can but anything after that is a gift NOT a guarantee. Remember that she is playing four nights in a row much of the tour and with promotional visits to radio stations, interviews, etc. and then playing at night she's exhausted and sometimes just can't do meet and greets. After all she is only human! She needs time to herself as well and right now with the hectic schedule this tour has she doesn't get much of that. There are some other things that I'm not going to post about at this point. Maybe in the future I will. Remember it should be about Poe's music and her performance not about meeting her. tim "that which is not slightly distorted lacks sensible appeal: from which it follows that irregularity - that is to say, the unexpected, suprise and astonishment, are an essential part and characteristic of beauty" -Charles Baudelaire _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:18:51 -0500 From: "Notajunkie" Subject: Re: My take on Craig; a differant opinion. > > I think this whole 'hate craig' thing is getting out of control. "Craig is > > > > a great guy, with the worst job." Poe said this in front of me Saturday > > night. I was thinking that, YES Craig is a big part of the reason that Poe Then how about we make...."Craig has a shitty job" shirts??? huh? huh? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:22:57 -0800 From: "Tim Dube" Subject: Re: VPR: Conversation with POE in Cleveland - ---------"In regards to meet and greets she - ---------stressed that she promises to put out the best cd's she can and perform the - -------best she can but anything after that is a gift NOT a guarantee. " I'd like to add that in the same sence when she can sign some autographs, take pictures, or just hang out with us she will!!!! Just look at the Cleveland show its a perfect example!! tim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:40:42 -0700 From: Oliva Subject: POE on WOXY I hope everyone got to listen to the interview on WOXY today-it was great! All of you who live in Cincinnati are lucky to have such a kick ass radio station. I listened to it over the internet all morning at work and it played great music. I live in Phoenix and we do not have one really good station to listen to. Anyways, back to POE, she sang Fly Away beautifully. I only wish she could have played a couple more songs, but the station did a good job of playing other tunes of hers on the album. That is all for now. I hope everyone who went to the concert tonight had a good time. I cannot wait till she comes here! Tiffany ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:45:45 -0800 (PST) From: Brett Carter Subject: NPR: AB FAB!! I LOVE AB FAB! caught the premiere tonite, and while it's not as great as the previous episodes, it's still head and shoulders above most tv shows. brett Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:49:36 -0500 From: "Notajunkie" Subject: NPR Re: AB FAB!! "Yeah, I'm done...It gets boring after a while. I mean, once you get in one of those porn circles you can't get out" I was ROTFLMAO when grandma said that.... :) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett Carter" To: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:45 PM Subject: NPR: AB FAB!! > > I LOVE AB FAB! caught the premiere tonite, and while > it's not as great as the previous episodes, it's still > head and shoulders above most tv shows. > brett > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:00:49 EST From: Thinggeee@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR:yearbook quote How abouts "Just because I can't read or write doesn't mean I don't deserve a diploma!" (my brother best friend used that one) - -Momma Mary In a message dated 11/11/01 7:20:02 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Iamtheher4u@aol.com writes: << Someone help!!! I have to find a quote for my yearbook... I want something funny, or something that pertains to me and my best friend (something about being close). Does anyone have any ideas??? I have none. Actually I had some, but I ran out... partially because I didn't know how long the quote could be... so yeah... if anyone has ANY ideas whatsoever, send them to me PLEASE! Thank you!!! Tessa "But I neeeeed tacos! I need them or I will explode! That happens to me sometimes." -- GIR (Invader Zim) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:22:25 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Choices: Friend or Poe? In a message dated 11/12/2001 8:34:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, hailsaltns@hotmail.com writes: > it's not possible for me to know which shit > feels worse...I'll only know one or the other. I really don't know what to > do...I need some advice. Please help me. Thanks. > ~Ani > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Masybe you should see what you can do about getting your friend reinstated. ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #508 ***********************************