From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #498 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Wednesday, November 7 2001 Volume 06 : Number 498 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Poe shows-SLC and Denver ["Rob Darke" ] roxy tickets [Lok Tina ] Re: Poe shows-SLC and Denver [Miki Proud ] p-o-e.com [EMOKidsSmell@aol.com] <------- Not having a problem w/ p-o-e.com [Prozackitty16@aol.com] $450 for a Poe demin Jacket!?!?!? AHHHHHH!!!! [Prozackitty16@aol.com] Re: Look! look! Poe Pictures! [PURPLMOJO@aol.com] Re: <------- Not having a problem w/ p-o-e.com [Miki Proud ] PR:Poe store?? [BluesyBear@aol.com] contest? [BluesyBear@aol.com] duh [BluesyBear@aol.com] Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- [Miki Proud ] Re: poe.org update [VR5SBloom@aol.com] Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- ["Tim Dube" ] Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- ["sp00k@poe.org" ] RE: $450 for a Poe demin Jacket!?!?!? AHHHHHH!!!! [Jennifer Cook ] Re: roxy tickets [KrodKnid@aol.com] RE: $450 for a Poe demin Jacket!?!?!? AHHHHHH!!!! ["Ice Princess" ] Houston Show & Meeting Poe [Jennifer Cook ] Making a statement at shows [tohaveaplan@att.net] Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- ["Courtney Coslet" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 23:32:20 -0700 From: "Rob Darke" Subject: Re: Poe shows-SLC and Denver But c'mon Miki... surely the CO people weren't as enthused and into it as us Salt Lakers, right? 8-p Heheh. Love ya! Rob >Think of England were absolutely incredible! Make >sure you show up in time to see them! Also, I just >got back from the shows in SLC and Denver (18 hour >drive home, and I managed to rack up 400 bucks in >speeding tickets), and she absolutely rocked! To all >you psychos saying Poe doesn't care about us anymore, >listen to what happened at the shows I went to. First >off, at the SLC show I was all the way up front (I >started standing in line 3 hours before doors opened). > I hadn't seen or had any contact with Poe since the >Depeche Mode show in August, but she not only >recognized me as soon as she walked out on stage, she >also came running over, gave me a hi-five, and said, >"Hey Miki! You made it! Yay!" She remebered my name >and everything, I was on cloud nine. Then she >dedicated Beautiful Girl to me and my sister Radon and >pulled us up on stage to dance with her during the >break, along with about five other girls. She crowd >surfed somewhere around five times, she ran all over >the theatre singing with audience members, and she >kissed Jeff (humanjunk) on the cheek when he handed >her back her portable monitor that she lost while >crowd surfing. Another psycho (Renee, I think) brought >her a t-shirt and had all of us sign it. She handed it >to her in the middle of her set, and she not only >accepted it with much gratitude, she put it on over >the shirt she was already wearing, and wore it >throughout the rest of the show. At the end of the >show Nate came over and handed me his drumsticks. > >So I thought that there was no way Denver could be >better, but I was wrong. First I got a call from >Angie in my hotel room at around one in the morning >letting me know I'd won the Poeparazzi pass. We >headed out to Denver on practically no sleep, and >ended up getting there around three o clock. Anyways, >we were hopelessly lost looking for the Bluebird >Theatre, so we went to Walgreens to find a phone book. > When we got there and ran into the girl who was >selling T-shirts in SLC (who remembered us), and >Darrus, Poe's guitar player. We gave them a ride back >to the venue, and when we pulled up (about five hours >before the show started) Poe was just standing on the >street corner talking to a couple of psychos. We >parked and headed over to where she was standing. She >was seriously excited to see us, gave us all hugs, let >us take pictures, and sat and chatted with us for over >an hour. She was an absolute sweetheart (as always) >and only got back on the tour bus when her manager >came in and told her she had to go get ready. About >an hour later myself and the other press pass winner >were let into soundcheck where she signed a bunch of >stuff for us, and was just absolutely wonderful. Once >the concert started she once again pulled me and my >sister (and about five other girls) up on stage for >Beautiful Girl, and gave us all a big group hug after >the song was over. She was her usual energetic self >throughout the whole show, hanging with the audience >and giving the best performance I've ever seen from >any musician. Then during Hey Pretty she let about 15 >audience members up on stage (myself and my sister >included) and danced with us. I DANCED WITH POE! >When the song ended she told us all to have a seat on >stage, and proceded to do 5 and 1/2 Minute Hallway >with all of us still sitting up there. After the song >she blew us all kisses and shook our hands and ran off >stage (as it was the closing number). Anyway, the >audience started going nuts clapping and screaming for >an encore, and she came out and did the most kick-ass >version of Chokin the Cherry I've ever heard. After >the show she went straight back to her hotel to get >some sleep, but we got to hang with her whole band for >about an hour. They signed our passes, shirts, >tickets, whatever anyone had, and were just overall >extremely cool. > >So anyhow, I don't want to hear any more bullshit >about Poe not caring about us! She adores her fans, >and treats us wonderfully. Everytime she talks to us >it takes her manager at least 20 minutes to drag her >away. She is the best performer I've ever seen, and >she truly does adore all of us. You guys should >really be more grateful that our favorite musician is >such a friendly and caring person. Most rock stars >could give a rat's ass about their fans, but Poe has >shown her dedication to us over and over again. Quit >yer bitchin and appreciate how much she does for us. > >Much Love > >Miki > >===== >I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... > >Let the angels grace the land, for I have held you in my hand. > >And right there for a minute, I knew you so well _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 22:49:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lok Tina Subject: roxy tickets I don't feel like getting tickets of tickermaster.. Does anyone know if you can purchase from the roxy o nthe phone? Tina L. Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 22:49:27 -0800 (PST) From: Miki Proud Subject: Re: Poe shows-SLC and Denver - --- Rob Darke wrote: > > But c'mon Miki... surely the CO people weren't as > enthused and into it as us > Salt Lakers, right? 8-p > > Heheh. > > Love ya! > > > Rob Actually, I was glad that they weren't as PSYCHO in Denver. I never once got pushed or nudged by the people behind me (no shoulder dislocation this time. yay!). Both show were so full of energy! I had so much fun. It was really great meeting you, and I hope to see you at another Poe concert in the future. Much Love Miki ===== I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... Let the angels grace the land, for I have held you in my hand. And right there for a minute, I knew you so well Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 01:54:26 EST From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com Subject: p-o-e.com Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh Geeeeeeeeeeeeezus! No matter what I do, it doesn't work, I simply can not register for this website. Megan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 02:09:58 EST From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: <------- Not having a problem w/ p-o-e.com Why are some having problems and not all? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 02:14:41 EST From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: $450 for a Poe demin Jacket!?!?!? AHHHHHH!!!! When...WHEN will the madness END!!!!! AHHHHH!!!!!! Nearly 500 bux for a jacket!?!?!? WTF!!!!!!! @ words for you my friends....... "Bull-Shit". And what even more sad is that I'm already saving for one... *sigh* I know...I'm pathetic.... ~Gypsy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 02:43:01 EST From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com Subject: Re: Look! look! Poe Pictures! Yahoo sucks shit. I can't ever send my friend mp3 cause of the file size limit they have. Now we can't even view a webpage. Get what you pay for I guess haha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 23:49:04 -0800 (PST) From: Miki Proud Subject: Re: <------- Not having a problem w/ p-o-e.com - --- Prozackitty16@aol.com wrote: > > Why are some having problems and not all? I've never had a problem with the BBS, but that may be because I haven't logged out since I joined, so I've never had to log back in. ===== I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... Let the angels grace the land, for I have held you in my hand. And right there for a minute, I knew you so well Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 02:57:32 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miki Proud" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:29 PM Subject: Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- > > > > > Is this a history lesson, or a legal notice? > > > > > > > > > > Either way, for those of us who werent here when > > it all happened..It was a > > > great bit of poe history:) > > > I am gathering Poe wrote it and Angie delivered > > the lesson? > > > > Who knows? I'm still confused about what voice > > angie is speaking > > with, and wasn't sure we got this tid bit for our > > entertainment or as a > > warning about copyright laws.... it does seem that > > the tone has been > > one of corporate officialdom, so yes, I am reading > > between the lines, > > and thought I asked a legit question. > > > > sp00k etc ... > > Dude, could everybody please BACK THE FUCK OFF OF > ANGIE! I've spoken to her a few times, and she is an > absolute sweetheart! Me and my sister were actually > on the phone with her WERE NOT ALL AS PRIVILAGED AS YOU AND YOU AND YOUR SISTER, IF WE HAD PERSONAL COMMUNICATIONS AS YOU DO AND GOT SOMETHING OTHER THAN TUDE WETHER IT IS REAL OR PRECIVED WHATEVER YOU AND YOUR FUCK OFF.... TELL ME TO BACK THE FUCK OFF KISS THIS when she was writing this > message, and she was doing it for the sake of > entertainment because you guys were all bitching that > she never interacts with us. Well shit, if I got a > bunch of people throwing a fit over every post I made, > I'd never send out any psycho mail either. Just chill > the fuck out everybody! Poe still adores her fans, > Angie is not out to get us, and no one wants to do > away with the APs. Fuck...Did everyone get some bad > drugs this week or something? > > > ===== > I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... > > Let the angels grace the land, for I have held you in my hand. > > And right there for a minute, I knew you so well > Find a job, post your resume. > http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 03:12:46 EST From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: PR:Poe store?? I still don't know how I feel about it...but it's a fantastic feeling knowing you can order Poe "stuff" at anytime without having to deal with stupid ebay....although ebay has some great stuff. Anyway...how did this come about? Who is responsible for it and why is it not at the website? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 03:13:34 EST From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: contest? I'm sorry call me dumb but I still dont understand how to enter the contest and frankly I have a hard time understanding poe.com as a whole.. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 03:17:01 EST From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: duh nevermind my email about the store...i guess i missed it on poe.com cuz i was too busy trying to enter the contest lol ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 00:18:47 -0800 (PST) From: Miki Proud Subject: Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- > WERE NOT ALL AS PRIVILAGED AS YOU AND YOU AND > YOUR SISTER, IF WE HAD PERSONAL COMMUNICATIONS > AS YOU DO AND GOT SOMETHING OTHER THAN TUDE > WETHER IT IS REAL OR PRECIVED WHATEVER YOU > AND YOUR FUCK OFF.... TELL ME TO BACK THE FUCK > OFF KISS THIS Whoa, chill out a little there Spook. First off, my comment was not directed to you specifically, but rather to the influx of anti-Angie posts that have been coming into this group. Everyone seems to need something to be angry about lately. Whether it's Poe not signing autographs or Angie not answering a question or p-o-e problems. Granted, some of this stuff is a bit of a letdown, but shit man, why is everybody so worked up all of a sudden? Poe cares more about her fans than any musician I've ever seen. Angie is trying very hard to do a difficult job, and reading negative posts all day cannot possibly make that job any easier. If everyone would just calm down a bit, maybe we could get something accomplished. Telling everyone to FUCK OFF and SUCK THIS will really get you nowhere. I mean, if you were a musician/manager/point person and the fans kept posting about all the shit you did wrong, never once taking the time to thank you for everything you've done right, would you want to communicate on a regular basis with them? Shit...why's everybody so damn hostile all of a sudden. C'mon, Poe's touring (and putting on incredible shows), we should be ridiculously happy instead of at each other's throats. Anyway, I'm sorry if you perceived my message as an attack on you (it was not intended as such), but I'm really sick of reading negative shit about specific people on this board. If you've got beef with someone, that's all well and good, but send them a private email to discuss it. That's not just to you, that's to all the psychos out there. Just be happy everybody, most of us get to see Poe (or have already seen her), and if that's not reason enough to smile, I don't know what is. Much Love Miki ===== I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... Let the angels grace the land, for I have held you in my hand. And right there for a minute, I knew you so well Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 03:19:25 EST From: VR5SBloom@aol.com Subject: Re: poe.org update "Oona ***" wrote: >neato neato >poe.org has been updated. Yep. And for those of you who are confused, poe.org = angry-psychos.com ;) So she's talking about the Events update. >i have a question...(as usual)... >so if we have an AP get together before a show can we get a little spot on >the AP page to put a review and some pics of all of us? Yes yes, please do, take pictures, sign your shirts, bond...then share it with us so I can put them up there ;) Erik and I made the new pages, but please feel free to make your own and just send them over. And of course you can submit stuff from any year, any tour, no problem. (Tara I think you sent Jarrod your pics or something...who knows what happened ;) >p.s. no one ever told me if it was possible to update my psycho ward >profile...mine is from 99 and i could add a pic...email me privatly with >info on if this is possible pleaseeee... Jarrod pleeeeeeease? I want my duck back. - --Michele http://www.shellE.org/ Home of PsYcHovixen, Poe documents (including the Poe discography), Garbage and Poe trading, eXej, 12 Rounds, Mono, and Exploration Z: A Haunted House Of Leaves Alternate Universe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 00:47:21 -0800 From: "Tim Dube" Subject: Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- Miki makes some great points. I think we all need to take a step back and stop stress'n. I've been around this list forever and feal like I should know better but even I got caught up in all this negativity. When the day is over it acomplishes zip, zero, nada. It certainly can not make Angie's life easier, reading negative emails all day long that is. Especially when they are sent to the entire list. There are a lot of things flying about that perhaps should be directed to the actual person not the list. I also think some people need to think before they post messages to the list telling people to fuck off and such. But that's probably just me talking crazy again.... tim P.S. I can now log on to the BBS but have decided to not enter the contest because I've had the privilege of hanging with Poe many times and even had happy birthday sung to me in front of 13,000 people! :) I'd like to see people who haven't had the opportunity to meet PoE win!! - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Miki Proud To: "sp00k@poe.org" CC: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 00:18:47 -0800 (PST) > WERE NOT ALL AS PRIVILAGED AS YOU AND YOU AND > YOUR SISTER, IF WE HAD PERSONAL COMMUNICATIONS > AS YOU DO AND GOT SOMETHING OTHER THAN TUDE > WETHER IT IS REAL OR PRECIVED WHATEVER YOU > AND YOUR FUCK OFF.... TELL ME TO BACK THE FUCK > OFF KISS THIS Whoa, chill out a little there Spook. First off, my comment was not directed to you specifically, but rather to the influx of anti-Angie posts that have been coming into this group. Everyone seems to need something to be angry about lately. Whether it's Poe not signing autographs or Angie not answering a question or p-o-e problems. Granted, some of this stuff is a bit of a letdown, but shit man, why is everybody so worked up all of a sudden? Poe cares more about her fans than any musician I've ever seen. Angie is trying very hard to do a difficult job, and reading negative posts all day cannot possibly make that job any easier. If everyone would just calm down a bit, maybe we could get something accomplished. Telling everyone to FUCK OFF and SUCK THIS will really get you nowhere. I mean, if you were a musician/manager/point person and the fans kept posting about all the shit you did wrong, never once taking the time to thank you for everything you've done right, would you want to communicate on a regular basis with them? Shit...why's everybody so damn hostile all of a sudden. C'mon, Poe's touring (and putting on incredible shows), we should be ridiculously happy instead of at each other's throats. Anyway, I'm sorry if you perceived my message as an attack on you (it was not intended as such), but I'm really sick of reading negative shit about specific people on this board. If you've got beef with someone, that's all well and good, but send them a private email to discuss it. That's not just to you, that's to all the psychos out there. Just be happy everybody, most of us get to see Poe (or have already seen her), and if that's not reason enough to smile, I don't know what is. Much Love Miki ===== I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... Let the angels grace the land, for I have held you in my hand. And right there for a minute, I knew you so well Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:24:59 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miki Proud" To: "sp00k@poe.org" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 3:18 AM Subject: Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- . > Telling everyone to FUCK OFF and SUCK THIS will really > get you nowhere. Oh, I see, is it only YOU who can tell everybodyto BACK THE FUCK OFF? if you break out the NUKES, dont whine when they land in YOUR back yard. As I said originaly, it is NOT CLEAR who angie is at this point, but as YOU said, "SHE IS WORKING HARD" well I guess tha makes her an EMPLOYEE and not simply a FAN passing along information. I think it is a legit question, was her post about the T-shirts a subtle reminder about WHO OWNS the name PSYCHO? WTF? I feel I have a RIGHT to question what her intentions are since at this time she seems more like a corporate mouth piece than a fan, EXSCUSE me if that is how I see it. GOD BLESS AMERICA, I'm still allowed to think it without being told to BACK THE FUCK OFF. I mean, if you were a > musician/manager/point person and the fans kept > posting about all the shit you did wrong, never once > taking the time to thank you for everything you've > done right, Where have you been the last 5 years? Try getting out of the yahoo groups. POE does not communicate with this group via the net REGARDLESS of what has been going on the last 5 years. AND we have seen one after another of these people, all from OUTSIDE the AP's, botch up communications with this group, this just looks like more of the same with new rules. would you want to communicate on a regular > basis with them? Shit...why's everybody so damn > hostile all of a sudden. C'mon, Poe's touring (and > putting on incredible shows), we should be > ridiculously happy instead of at each other's throats. Maybe we dont like that stupid ass POEPERAZZI crap with all the rules etc... SO WHAT!! All of us can LOVE the music NOBODY has to like the bullshit that seems to be attached, INCLUDING what seems to be a very concerted effort to migrate all of the members of the AP list over to p-o-e.com ANOTHER of the little sub agendas that is taking place as I type. RIP OFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Anyway, I'm sorry if you perceived my message as an > attack on you (it was not intended as such), Hey you chose MY message specifcaly to respond to, not the many others who have also had something to say about this and you said "Dude, could everybody please BACK THE FUCK OFF OF ANGIE! " hmmmm IM A DUDE and you respond to MY mail, Why TF woudn't I think you meant ME??????? but I'm > really sick of reading negative shit about specific > people on this board. If you've got beef with > someone, that's all well and good, but send them a > private email to discuss it. maybe Y O U should take your OWN advice, especialy if you are going to include "BACK THE FUCK OFF" in your text cuz if those are NOT FIGHTING WORDS, I don't know what is. That's not just to you, > that's to all the psychos out there. Just be happy > everybody, most of us get to see Poe (or have already > seen her), and if that's not reason enough to smile, I > don't know what is. If thats all it is about is a concert, then all we need to know is the date, in my case Nov 16th, END OF DISCUSSION. Obviously to some of us anyway, there is MUCH more going on than simply a show that needs the date announced, otherwise what is the point of having this list? If someone comes hear for the SOLE purpose of exploiting the fact that this list has 1,000 POE fans, that they can advertise to, or recruit for their own purposes, I find it VERY bothersome. And a final reminder, if you drop the F bomb, don't be surprised if it comes right back at Y O U. sp00k etc ... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:50:26 -0500 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Dube" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 3:47 AM Subject: Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- I also > think some people need to think before they post messages to the list > telling people to fuck off and such. Please indicate the text that told anybody to "Fuck Off" I think the more important thing to remember is that if you use the F bomb, those who get hit by it will more than likey send it right back uP your ASS. WHICH by the way, I did indicate that my ASS could be kissed, by any who would tell me to "BACK THE FUCK OFF" .... PsYcHo Fukin Peace. luv sp00k etc ... HTTP://POE.ORG the original, not that canned shit. ======================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:06:41 -0600 From: Jennifer Cook Subject: RE: $450 for a Poe demin Jacket!?!?!? AHHHHHH!!!! Well, since they are handmade, I can understand the pricetag, but why only one!!!! I SOOO want the dragon/poe ball jacket!!! My favorite artist and the year of my birth! (Yes, 'tis true! I was born under the coolest of Chinese signs... The Dragon... 1976!!!) Sigh... Hey, there are a few "professional ladies" that walk the streets not far from where I work (there are tons of hotels there), so maybe I could join them for a while! Hey baby! Want a little lovin'? Okay, I don't even want it that bad!!! HA! Jenn -----Original Message----- From: Prozackitty16@aol.com [mailto:Prozackitty16@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:15 AM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: $450 for a Poe demin Jacket!?!?!? AHHHHHH!!!! When...WHEN will the madness END!!!!! AHHHHH!!!!!! Nearly 500 bux for a jacket!?!?!? WTF!!!!!!! @ words for you my friends....... "Bull-Shit". And what even more sad is that I'm already saving for one... *sigh* I know...I'm pathetic.... ~Gypsy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 09:41:57 EST From: QueenJezebel81@aol.com Subject: Meeting Poe OK, I think this whole thing stinks! I have met her whole band and her brother and all I really want to is to meet her for just one minute, get a picture w/ her and my life would be complete. Also, some people are saying that she is mad about this too, how do we know for sure? Maybe she's abandoned us!? I hope not. But have any of us heard a thing from her? There hasn't been an echo since 9/11. Yes, I know she's busy, but that has never stopped her before. She's been busy from the very beginning ... and she had time for us then. I had the oddest dream last night about her. I went into a grocery store where Seb from the NEAP's was bagging groceries and told me that he taught a class devoted to her. So, the next thing I know I'm sitting in this class w/ him and my friend Steamy. (nickname) He shows us this documentary which in my dream was soooo vivid and real, and it was pretty true too. I saw clips of her videos in it and the making of the nonexistent Haunted video. Then the next thing I know is that I'm back stage at one of her shows w/ Steamy and she pulls us on stage to announce her marriage! To some cartoon character! (It's a dream folks, bear w/ me) Then all the AP's came on stage and told her not to. So she said OK, I won't ever get married ... the show was over so my friend and I went backstage w/ her. Come to find out we're nannies for her son!!!!! That was pretty much it. But it goes to show that if I care enough about her to dream about her, I SHOULD GET THE CHANCE TO MEET HER! April ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 10:08:09 EST From: VR5SBloom@aol.com Subject: Wild live question When she does Wild now, did they bring the whole rave part back or is it still shortened? - --Michele http://www.shellE.org/ Home of PsYcHovixen, Poe documents (including the Poe discography), Garbage and Poe trading, eXej, 12 Rounds, Mono, and Exploration Z: A Haunted House Of Leaves Alternate Universe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 08:36:56 -0700 From: "Rob Darke" Subject: Re: Poe shows-SLC and Denver Yeah, that was kinda fucked up. Apparently it was just one guy who was doing it. He got kicked out near the end (around the time the crushing stopped). Go fig'r. >Actually, I was glad that they weren't as PSYCHO in >Denver. I never once got pushed or nudged by the >people behind me (no shoulder dislocation this time. >yay!). Both show were so full of energy! I had so >much fun. It was really great meeting you, and I hope >to see you at another Poe concert in the future. > >Much Love > >Miki > >===== >I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... > >Let the angels grace the land, for I have held you in my hand. > >And right there for a minute, I knew you so well >Find a job, post your resume. >http://careers.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:14:10 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: roxy tickets In a message dated 11/7/2001 1:50:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, stupidgirl3500@yahoo.com writes: > I don't feel like getting tickets of tickermaster.. > Does anyone know if you can purchase from the roxy o > nthe phone? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9009 Sunset Blvd. West Hollywood 310-276-2222 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Roxy in LA doesn't seem to have a website where you can buy tickets...try calling them. Bogart's in Cincinnati has an online site where you can buy tickets. Here is the link...get hustling you OAP's! The Poe event for 11/12 is not yet sold out. bogarts.com http://www.bogarts.com/calendar.asp The "buy" link takes you to a ticketmaster site of course...but there is a Bogart's phone number where you can order by credit card directly. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 08:21:29 -0800 From: "Ice Princess" Subject: RE: $450 for a Poe demin Jacket!?!?!? AHHHHHH!!!! I feel your pain...I definitely want the dragon or the rose one.....that's what my credit card is for :) *sigh* Ohh, but the interest will just kill me! ~Shelley >From: Jennifer Cook >To: "'Prozackitty16@aol.com'" , >angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: RE: $450 for a Poe demin Jacket!?!?!? AHHHHHH!!!! >Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:06:41 -0600 > > >Well, since they are handmade, I can understand the pricetag, but why only >one!!!! I SOOO want the dragon/poe ball jacket!!! My favorite artist and >the year of my birth! (Yes, 'tis true! I was born under the coolest of >Chinese signs... The Dragon... 1976!!!) > >Sigh... > >Hey, there are a few "professional ladies" that walk the streets not far >from where I work (there are tons of hotels there), so maybe I could join >them for a while! Hey baby! Want a little lovin'? Okay, I don't even >want >it that bad!!! HA! > >Jenn > > -----Original Message----- >From: Prozackitty16@aol.com [mailto:Prozackitty16@aol.com] >Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:15 AM >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: $450 for a Poe demin Jacket!?!?!? AHHHHHH!!!! > > >When...WHEN will the madness END!!!!! AHHHHH!!!!!! Nearly 500 bux for a >jacket!?!?!? WTF!!!!!!! @ words for you my friends....... "Bull-Shit". > >And what even more sad is that I'm already saving for one... *sigh* I >know...I'm pathetic.... > > >~Gypsy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:23:59 EST From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Look! look! Poe Pictures! In a message dated 11/7/2001 2:44:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, PURPLMOJO@aol.com writes: > Yahoo sucks shit. I can't ever send my friend mp3 cause of the file size > limit they have. Now we can't even view a webpage. Get what you pay for I > guess haha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AOL and MSN are among the few major servers which allow large file attachments to e-mail; (AOL allows 16 megs!). HotMail, Yahoo, et al only allow one meg...not enough for an MP3. Some college LAN servers allow MP3 sized files. You aren't hopeless though. Even if you have AOL, you can still use the non-AOL version of AIM ...don't sign onto AIM with yer AOL screen name while on AOL though...you need a different AIM SN than your AOL one or it will cause your AOL IM to hemmorage:-).If you have broadband (DSL/Cable/T1/T3) you can use your AOL SN while not on AOL...just fire up AIM and all your buddys will see you on their list, just like you were on AOL. Anywhoo, with the newer versions of AIM you can connect to your buddy while IMming them and send them files of any size via the IM. Cool, huh...I have done it a lot of times. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 16:30:59 +0000 From: tohaveaplan@att.net Subject: Poe, Craig, time, energy and balance The following is just my opinions and I will be happy to hear any other sides. Please no AP-bashing. Ok is anyone else having issues with what is going on already with this tour? We can't take pictures? Dan's camera is taken away by Craig from Rachel because it is Dan's? The "winners" can't even keep their cameras? I sure hope those were disposeables because let me tell you, I would be SCREAMING if I took my nice camera in there for shots that I was told I could get and then it was taken away without a word of getting it back. I remember Mike showing me the AP backstage passes at the Cobalt Lounge show in Portland. That was when he got POE's OK for us to have them and that the designs were good. Now those are gone??? AFTER POE OK'D IT?? The right WE were given BY POE to be able to video her concerts? Take what pictures we want??? I hate to be the one who brings everyone's attention to it (don't shoot the messenger), but it may just be that Poe is drained by all of this contact we demand of her. We may be the monster she created but no longer can control. Really, she may not WANT to seperate herself from us (because I am sure she appreciates us) but NEEDS more balance and down time. Unfortunately, that is why she has handlers- to do the nasty, dirty business of using B.S., "legalities," excuses, or bold faced lies to get to the means of seperating from her fans. She gets to be good guy, they get paid to be bad guys. I mean after the plethora of Phish shows I have been to, it is obvious to me that all the stories in the world wouldn't prevent cameras, video, or even music recording to be permitted if the artist truly wanted them there. Noone wants to take their work home with them, in the case of the music industry and the fame that goes with it seperation between private and public time becomes ever the more blurred and just imagine how much energy it would take keep that up ALL THE TIME! But remember the pendulum swings both ways. We had her non-stop since the beginning. She may be curtailing her present dealings with fans. But when she strikes a balance I think all will be well again. I find it hard to believe that this is about any ONE or TWO APs (sorry Dan- you know I love you and that SUCKS about your camera). I do think this is more likely Poe taking control of her dealings with us, her time and her energy. It's not something you get pissed about, it's just something you accept. As for the Angie thing, I don't know how much control she really has. I was desperate to get an answer from her regarding something at the Gravity Games. In good faith (I believe) she told me she would find out. I did not hear back from her. I don't get pissed off, or take it personally. I believe she forgot, did not get an answer, or did not get an answer she wanted to pass on to me. BUT THERE ARE POLITICS TO THIS TOO! Whatever the reason, whatever the situation or communication between her and Poe (and if it is good Poe knows all this shit), the one thing YOU KNOW she has control over (being the board) has never looked better thanks to her. I think we all need to get some perspective here. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 17:11:40 +0000 From: "Rita Bass" Subject: Miki, I so agree... This 'Angie is a bitch and is doing blah blah blah' saga is getting old. I have yet to see Angie even make one snide or rude remark or bring anything to this list that makes us get angry at one another or feel depressed over the whole situation. I think this whole thing needs to die; people need to realize Angie is in place and is doing a good job-let her do HER job; Those of us who still have drama with Angie doing what she gets to do need to get over it-get over the jealousy-get over the 'what about me' issues and move the fuck on. That is my piece of heart and I do not mean it in a rude way-just a 'can't we get along and leave Angie bashing off this list?' kinda way. Rita _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:12:09 -0600 From: Jennifer Cook Subject: Houston Show & Meeting Poe Hey guys... Well, looks like my boyfriend's getting shipped off to training in Nebraska on Monday, so he's a no go for the Poe show in Houston. Anyway, I really don't have many friends into Poe, and the one I have has been getting on my nerves lately. SOOOO, I think I'm gonna venture this on all by myself, since there are going to be some fellow Psychos there. (Note to Brenda - Count for Jennifer is ONE - hee hee) BTW Brenda, do you need any help finding a place to meet in Houston? I think I remember you saying something about just meeting at the Engine Room early... As for the whole "Meeting Poe" thing... I got to meet Poe the last time she was in Houston, and she seemed like a genuinely nice person interested in her fans, and not just because we buy her CD's. If I don't get a chance to talk to her while she's here this time, I will be a little disappointed, but I will understand. I cannot imagine what it's like to tour, so I will not think any differently of her - I will chalk it up to her being busy and tired. When we idolize or admire someone, sometimes we don't take the time to realize that they are human, and have the same physical and mental limitations that all of us do. Okay, enough of that now... Laters, Jenn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 17:30:06 +0000 From: tohaveaplan@att.net Subject: Making a statement at shows Perhaps we should all wear Psycho's hate Craig shirts to this tour... would that make a statement OR WHAT!?! I have GOT to get the Seattle interview with Poe digitized. We have a video where Craig is making excuses for why the APs were always the last to know about Poe's schedule. She GLARES at him and says, and I quote: " Patrick (Craig's boss) books this stuff and sends you email to tell you where to take me. If you can't get this information to Dan so he can let my Psychos know then you are not doing your FUCKING job for me!!!" Sounds to me like he is not getting the information to Angie either! From EVERYTHING That I am hearing this is Nettwerk in general and Angie MAY just be another victim rather then a perp. Craig is just a very pathetic man with a very hard job to do. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 10:31:05 -0700 From: "Courtney Coslet" Subject: Re: ORIGIN OF A POE SHIRT- spook wrote: ***And a final reminder, if you drop the F bomb, don't be surprised if it comes right back at Y O U.*** O.K, I hate getting involved in email wars-in fact, most arguments now adays seem to start via email because it's really hard to convey the proper emotions and we have to be CAREFUL with this.... ...call me pathetic, but I'm a pacifist and all this mud slinging just seems inappropriate and unecessary. As Ghandhi once said "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" Just 'cause someone offends you doesnt mean you have to offend them back! You're only feeding the cycle! I guess all I want to say is perhaps the reason people like Miki got to meet Poe is because she has a positive attitude, seems generally happy and concerned about the AP's and, moreover, doesn't blow little things out of proportion-maybe we're all jealous but jealousy can make you do evil, evil things and you should watch your mouth when it starts to happen-trust me, speaking from personal experience. So that's just my take; I think people need to calm down about the little things and realize that overall, Poe loves us and no mean management group can come between that love. Y'all should take up Yoga, it works wonders ;-) Best Courtney ~~~And right there for A minute I knew You So well~~~ -Tori Amos "Springtime of his Voodoo" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #498 ***********************************