From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #463 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Tuesday, October 16 2001 Volume 06 : Number 463 Today's Subjects: ----------------- D.R.A.M.A. [agentorange2@mindspring.com] Re: Poe at NYU - tour non-update - offer from Dan to Poe [JezebeIlnHeII@a] Re: Poe at NYU - tour non-update - offer from Dan to Poe [LivTheMdns@aol.] dan [BluesyBear@aol.com] Re: dan ["Crazy Little" ] RE: Unrequited Love ["Dominik Cordey" ] Re: Poe at NYU - tour non-update - offer from Dan to Poe [Peaceofpiedesig] Vanessa M contact me!!! (ice princess) [Peaceofpiedesign@aol.com] Sorta NPR but not really...street teams? ["kAte :)" ] ap related ["mindy king" ] Re: ap related [Prozackitty16@aol.com] NPR: For what its worth [Alex Richardson ] Re: NPR: Happy Birthday AP! [LiveThruThisVow@aol.com] Re: NPR: Happy Birthday AP! [KrodKnid@aol.com] VERY POE RELATED: RE: TOUR DATES [JaunasAddiccion@aol.com] KPR?: this whole... thang. [Miharu Nakatani ] Re: Unrequited love [Spidersrcute2@aol.com] POE TOUR DATES!!!!! Yeah!!!!! [Dan98908@aol.com] RE: POE TOUR DATES!!!!! Yeah!!!!! [lance.kinney@amd.com] Re: ap related [Dan98908@aol.com] Re: POE TOUR DATES!!!!! Yeah!!!!! [Dan98908@aol.com] Re: POE TOUR DATES!!!!! Yeah!!!!! [LiveThruThisVow@aol.com] POE TOUR [angie ] poe tour [JaunasAddiccion@aol.com] Re: POE TOUR DATES!!!!! Yeah!!!!! [Wolvenlune@aol.com] Re: First Poe dates!!! (SLC is not THAT far from Reno!) [Miki Proud ] Re: Um...where do we get these tickets? [Dan98908@aol.com] RE: POE TOUR ["Notajunkie" ] NPR: coldness [Dan98908@aol.com] RE: coldness ["Notajunkie" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 01:41:52 -0400 From: agentorange2@mindspring.com Subject: D.R.A.M.A. that is all i have to say after reading all of the posts from today... DRAMA BUT.. i can say one thing we can all agree on... i was at a bar tonight & there was a warner/elektra/altantic video compilation on. there is some new rap guy on atlantic called "Lil' O". he has some song called "back, back" from his cd called "da big rat wit da big cheeze". HE has a video. HE is on atlantic. WHO THE HELL IS HE?!?!?!?!? and why does he have a video when p+E doesn't? WHY does willa ford have l.l. cool j. in her video for "I Wanna Be Bad" (also on atlantic) when p+E has NO video for "Wild"?!?!?! WHY is TRICK DADDY signed, when real talent (a.k.a p+E), could use that money to have a new video, release a commercial single, tour a little longer than a month?!?!?!?! these are all "industry" questions only a man in a cubical can answer via email... when he checks it tomorrow after taking "Lil' O'" to TRL for a video premiere. ARE YOU OUT THERE... SAY YEAH! - -rusty (now back to your regularly scheduled AP list) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 02:54:23 EDT From: JezebeIlnHeII@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe at NYU - tour non-update - offer from Dan to Poe In a message dated 10/15/01 11:29:15 AM Alaskan Daylight Time, Dan98908@aol.com writes: > Just so YOU all will know, I have offered to resign as a Director and from > the list if Poe asks me to. DAN ?!?!?! What the hell ??? You know I totally support you , you are my closest friend on this list but you cannot keep walking out then staying then leaving. Alot of us depend on you to give us the straight scoop. Your posts are a daily part of my life. You are going to resign as a director if POE wants you to ? Did she elect you ? Did she organize that venture ? Did she start THIS list ????? Hell, I know we are all here because we all share a common love of Poe and her music , but even she doesn't dictate what goes on here. This list may be about her .. but it is not her list.. nor is it angies.. it is OURS. We are free to discuss whatever we want in whatever way we want to present it. To leave because you think your opinion or presence might be wrong is a total contradiction from what we DO here ! I am so upset right now I could spit ! You are needed . You are appreciated . We are the ones who will still be here no matter how much money she makes and whether she is considered a commercial success or not. Eventually, she will see that. Just keep doing what you do. You do it well and from your heart. I have so much respect for you. STAY !!!!!!!!! ~jez ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 03:01:46 EDT From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe at NYU - tour non-update - offer from Dan to Poe In a message dated 10/15/2001 9:55:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, notajunkie@yahoo.com writes: > I second everything that has been said... > > I've been an AP since '97, (I missed the first year) but I've always felt > welcome in the AP family, I love Poe, and her music, but I too hate > poltics... > > The reason I joined the APs was in order help a woman that I adored...in > order to feel like I'm giving something back to her, but now all I see is > big buisness and politics getting in the way, and I too, can't stand it. I > feel like we are now just tools of Atlantic, their "free" advertising > service... > > but either way, I guess my point is that if Dan is asked to leave, I will > also follow suit, and say goodbye. > > > P.S. To whomever said, "I hope Poe has no idea about what's going on" I > don't agree...I HOPE Poe sees what's going on, I hope POE herself will send > someone and e-mail, or phone call or something saying that she doesn't agree > with how we are being treated...and if she does see what's going down, and > I abstain from this... I've also been around here for a while, and I've seen stuff going on where it takes a damn long time to know just who was doing what to who and what their intentions were when they did it. I for one will stay until I know what's going on here. I don't support anyone unconditionally, but Dan is someone who I support almost always because he has the right ideas in mind from what I've seen. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 03:05:56 EDT From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: dan Dan is incredible....he cares sooo much about Poe AND all the ap's. I dont know anyone who has put in as much time and effort..(I know it's been said a million times but ya know) as dan has. He has helped me so much and many others....I truly believe deep in my heart Poe loves Dan as much as we do and it'll all turn out o.k. If Dan resigns from this list as a whole it will NOT be the same. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 01:05:20 -0700 From: "Crazy Little" Subject: Re: dan My question is why would Dan feel like he needs to leave, and why does it seem to me that only bits and pieces of this whole episode have made it to the list? Can somebody -please- recap? CrazyLittle AP since '95 - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 12:05 AM Subject: dan > > Dan is incredible....he cares sooo much about Poe AND all the ap's. I dont > know anyone who has put in as much time and effort..(I know it's been said a > million times but ya know) as dan has. He has helped me so much and many > others....I truly believe deep in my heart Poe loves Dan as much as we do and > it'll all turn out o.k. If Dan resigns from this list as a whole it will NOT > be the same. > Jill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:43:15 From: "Dominik Cordey" Subject: RE: Unrequited Love Ones that would work (at least for me) is "Juliet's Refrain" and "Perfect" by Michal and "Over" by Portishead. If you want absolute cheese (read as: pop midtempo crap, please, don't judge or flame) "Do You Want My Love" by Coco Lee or "I Will Love Again" by Lara Fabian. (I suppose that this one is technically a break up song, but I feel better about having that unattainable crush when I listen to it. If you like it, listen to it in Spanish under the title "Otro Amor Vendra". The lyrics are better, the chorus translates roughly to "Another love will come/it will be better than yours/and make me happier than you can." gotta love that; helped me get over my last boyfriend.) Ryan "Be of heart and fear nothing. Your allotted days of stupidity have expired and tommorrow will induct you into the full joys of your novel existence." -- Edgar Allan Poe, "The Conversation of Eiros and Charmion" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:51:27 EDT From: Peaceofpiedesign@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe at NYU - tour non-update - offer from Dan to Poe In a message dated 10/15/01 11:53:02 PM Central Daylight Time, GabriKn@aol.com writes: > short and simple third it, Dan has been a huge plus to all the APs. Nuff > I wouldn't have been able to buy blanks for the new design if it weren't for Dan. hell, the design wouldn't be approved either for that matter! DAN ROCKS. Why is all this happening? There must be something we don't know ... ????????????? JP ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:31:32 EDT From: Peaceofpiedesign@aol.com Subject: Vanessa M contact me!!! (ice princess) Attn Vanessa M (Ice Princess) Please contact me concerning your current email address =) Thanks! Julie P ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:24:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "kAte :)" Subject: Sorta NPR but not really...street teams? Hey all- just wanted to throw out that i went to the boston tori concert and it was AMAZING- neil gaiman was there and he laughed at me, which helped make my night...anyway, to get to the poe stuff. on my way into the wang center, there were a few girls handing out sample cds for Emm Gryner...another great artist... i thought i remembered hearing/reading something about this kinda thing for us. if we don't already do it, i think it'd be a great way to get poe out there, as long as we werent breaking copyright laws or whatever- i know i saw a ton of people who seemed very interested in the free cd there. anyone? anyone? harper ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:25:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Uhura Bisa Jones Subject: Re: D.R.A.M.A (Industry ?s answered) *laugh* I can answer ALL of those questions. CASH. MONEY. MOOHLAH. DOUGH. CHEDDAR. Rap acts are huge right now and is only gaining momentum. With relatively little investment, a record company can recoup tons of cash. Poe needs a new marketing strategy. However, it comes down to the following: DO you want a campaign "we'll all" like, or one that will WORK? Right now I'm studying Intergrated Marketing Communications and working on Marketing for a Dining Services Company on campus, and I honestly think that Poe's positioning A) is wrong, and B) Isn't strong enough. I also don't think that the company is using hte appropriate Marketing tools. Does anyone know anything about strategy? (Come ON- I could've vetoed using her title track on that stinker lair WItch 2. EVERYONE new that would tank, long before it was ever released...) Just my 2 cents. Gotta run... Uhura p.s. Is Poe willing to do what it takes to have mainstream appeal? Does she want mainstream appeal?! If so, everyone needs to get their heads out of their asses and put together a strategy and implement. If not, figure out who you target audience is, do the research, and develop a strategy. Sheesh. On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 agentorange2@mindspring.com wrote: > > that is all i have to say after reading all of the posts from today... > DRAMA > > BUT.. i can say one thing we can all agree on... > i was at a bar tonight & there was a warner/elektra/altantic video compilation on. there is some new rap guy on atlantic called "Lil' O". he has some song called "back, back" from his cd called "da big rat wit da big cheeze". HE has a video. HE is on atlantic. WHO THE HELL IS HE?!?!?!?!? and why does he have a video when p+E doesn't? > > WHY does willa ford have l.l. cool j. in her video for "I Wanna Be Bad" (also on atlantic) when p+E has NO video for "Wild"?!?!?! > > WHY is TRICK DADDY signed, when real talent (a.k.a p+E), could use that money to have a new video, release a commercial single, tour a little longer than a month?!?!?!?! > > these are all "industry" questions only a man in a cubical can answer via email... when he checks it tomorrow after taking "Lil' O'" to TRL for a video premiere. > > ARE YOU OUT THERE... SAY YEAH! > > -rusty > > (now back to your regularly scheduled AP list) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:00:43 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Dan, Poe and the APs (It's long but PLEASE read it ALL!) To say that I am overwhelmed would be a HUGE understatement! Thank you all for your support and even MORE thank you all for expressing that you share my concerns for Poe! I don't want anyone to miss my point and I think that a lot of you may have done so. This is not about ME. This is not about Angie. I am VERY, VERY concerned about Poe!!! Think of the qualities YOU love about her ... her sensitivity to others, her AMAZING talent to put into words what ALL of us feel. The caring motherly, friendly, sisterly affection that she showed to us as INDIVIDUALS! Sure she loves her Psychos, but more then that think of the times you saw her again after the first time you met her... of the THOUSANDS of people she touches for a moment at a time she REMEMBERED you!!!! YOU!!!! It blows me away every single time.... That when she came to our houses or AP events she would LISTEN to US! And the way she would respond was with such insight! I just sat there in Portland after Borders and watched her with my daughter and son, with each and every person that approached her with such openness and such honesty! She would post in our list, she would just pop into our chats and she would come to our houses. She would sing Happy Birthday to us in the middle of 20,000 people at the DM show in Dallas, she would wave to us on national TV like she did on Lenno, she would call us at home when she read on the list something was wrong like she did with Megan and so many others .. she was FAMILY! It would be easy to blame what is going on on 9/11, but it was going on before that. Still SOMETHING is happening with our Poe that frightens me! She is withdrawing, she is forgetting our voice and she is not sharing hers with us. Perhaps this is good! Perhaps she is in love and doesn't have time for her family anymore...or at least not right NOW! Haven't we all seen that happen before? Your best friend falls in love and it is like YOU don't even exist anymore, but it all works out. Maybe THAT is what is going on... I don't know. What I do know is that she is angry at ME as an individual. The attack made in the Sept 21 echo was at ME not at the APs. Angie is responding to APs more in private mail then on the list and almost always on p-o-e.com, but who can blame her! I don't think anyone understands my feelings about Angie, they read too much into them. They seem to flow in two directions. Either I am "jealous of her position" or that she is trying to force me out. NEITHER is accurate in ANY way! Dean ran Polishchick ... we shared information but sometimes he would scoop me and sometimes I would scoop him, it was almost like a game, but we played well and I think all of us loved having more then a single source of news. It was wonderful to have that synergy. Angie offers something that neither Dean nor I could offer! She talks to Poe and Poe's boyfriend on a regular basis... That is HUGE!!! When you asked Dean or myself a question we would have to wait till the next public appearance or event to ask Poe our list of questions from APs. Rarely would we call her. Our relationship was not THAT close, even though we were told that we could. But Angie is their friend and can do that. Angie has been sweet to everyone on this list and on p-o-e.com from what I have seen. I think she is a bit insecure and I think perhaps I scare her a bit. I think she sees me as a rival, rather then a compatriot. I wish that I could do something about that perception. If you read my old posts I think you will see that I have ALWAYS supported Angie as a person ( I think she is not doing a good job in her position, but perhaps she is not ALLOWED to right now, by someone.) But none of that really matters much because it appears that not only is POE not joining us, it appears that Angie has left too and it terrifies me that BOTH might be because of things that I have done, real or imagined. Poe has not asked me to leave or indicated she wants me to in ANY way. Angie is not trying to force me out, nor has she indicated that desire. I am VERY sensitive and more then a little paranoid. I have a tendency of blaming everything on myself. When Dean left I thought maybe it was because of me and I was ready to leave, now Angie and Poe may be gone and I am blaming myself for that as well. I would HATE to have taken either away from all of you! THAT was and IS the basis of my offer to Poe and why I told you guys what I was thinking. I am going to try to get an address for Poe and I am going to ask Paul to make sure she reads your mail at that address. Something is happening with her that goes WAY beyond "sleepy". I have been to ground zero, but I did not watch it happen with my own eyes and New York is not my home. I have seen disaster first hand ( nothing on THIS scale, but still the components were there). I have trained for it and I was prepared, but Poe was not! I think that this has affected her. I think that she knows what a masterpiece she created with Haunted and must be a little disappointed that she did not get the support or response she correctly felt it deserved. Please, when you write Poe fill the letters with your love. Shower her with your care! That is better then ANY fragrance money can buy. Let her know we love her and we miss her and we WANT her to come HOME to US! She does not need to be bashed and, in my opinion, has done nothing to be bashed for. I have a feeling that she is hurting right now and she NEEDS us! I will check with Jarrod and see if the poe@poe.org address is still working and if it is I will ask Paul to have her read your posts. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:21:18 -0400 From: "Stephen van Vuuren" Subject: RE: NPRNPRNPRNPR: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! Having been an AP since '97, I am tired of the personal attacks by spook and others claiming to know what my beliefs are, soap boxing, aggrandizing and waste of time this list has become. This last round is really pathetic, including the personal emails to my account. I just want the list to focus on Poe - a little NPR about related music or culture is cool. But not all the junk that is piling up now. As if I'm going to learn something deep and insightful about the world and events based on tons of emails, many which are just forwarded articles to this list in amongst the virus hoaxes, urban legends and other junk. If anybody seriously takes NPR posts on this list as a serious form of insight into the world, you have my sympathy. I have rules and auto-deletes, but at some point, it just gets too much. This is not the only place for Poe news. It is/was Poe list, but now that seems in question and the whole Angie/Dan/Poe thing has made this list not what it once was nor are the AP.s. While I realize this is not true of many the AP's still on the list, we've all allowed it to deteriorate. I can't imagine Poe actually reads this list anymore. This is all just my opinion but it's my time and my right to be pissed off. I will be unsubscribing after this posts. stephen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:01:33 EDT From: Wolvenlune@aol.com Subject: Re: Dan, Poe and the APs (It's long but PLEASE read it ALL!) I know I'm new to the list but wanted to respond to this... I LOVE POE and if something is wrong, or if she's hurting, I want her to know that we're here... Dan,I think you're an awesome person, you've been beyond nice to me and very patient, especially considering I'm a novice here. :) The NPR stuff doesn't bother me, families talk about more than just one thing, why should this be any different? Anyway, I support all of you and POE especially... and I really hope we can be there for her and her be there for us... Just my rambling two cents. :) ~alexandra ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:08:15 EDT From: VR5SBloom@aol.com Subject: Re: Dan, Poe and the APs From: Dan98908@aol.com >She would post in our list Poe has never posted to this list. She has posted to poe.org, p-o-e.com, vivianlives.com, and back in the day signed a few poeple's web guestbooks. >she would just pop into our chats and she would It is legend (maybe truth, I don't think anyone asked her to be sure) that she did this only once, and not using her handle. The other few times were scheduled, unless I'm getting that time with Mike Inez mixed up somewhere. >What I do know is that she is angry at ME as an >individual. The attack made >in the Sept 21 echo was at ME not at the APs. I was very saddened when I listened to that Echo. Because knowingly or unknowingly of the entire situation, Poe made this whole problem public. This problem has happened to people on this list before. Most of you have no idea. But for those of you who do, I didn't see a whole bunch of people then threatening to quit over it. In my opinion, Atlantic and Poe's management would be quite happy to see the APs dissolve or fracture. One less pesky pain for them to deal with. Is that what you guys want, for the big guy to squish the little poeple? If you leave because of what Poe has or hasn't done though...well...history repeats itself. (Plain English: it wouldn't be the first time.) I guess what I'm trying to say is I sympathize with everyone yet nobody - including Poe - is totally innocent in all this. What would be nice is if everyone would just friggin TALK already. I hold hope that Poe will and this can get straightened out. I know from firsthand experience that Angie may not ::P but that she may be willing sometime to get over it, maybe even quickly. I hope Paul gets involved, and I don't particularly care about Nettwerk because they have been of nearly no help to us anyway. Dan, please go take a walk or something and get away from Poe stuff for a few hours. Last opinion I'm throwing in... Poe owes us nothing. Likewise, we owe her nothing. Anything given by either side is voluntary and done out of respect for each other. I hate the emphasis on officialness - making poe.org or polishchick.com official or whatever, the idea of making APs move to the official p-o-e.com site, having to "go public" just to get five minutes with Poe. (By the way, I wasn't made aware of that aspect at all when I was asked to join the board, so that has nothing to do with me declining a position.) Poe has no obligation to chat at poe.org, as much as we would like her to (or how unfair it was when the Street Team got a chat and we didn't). We have no obligation to make another meta-site like poe.org or polishchick.com, as much as Poe *needs* us to. Poe doesn't have to put on a concert just for us. We don't have to promote Hey Pretty or Wild or even Haunted at all. I know some people won't agree...that's cool with me, I will not stand in your way to keep the love and activities here, if some communication starts happening I will even help...but personally...I am happy to listen to Poe music, and I am happy to give Poe information to people. And that's all. I have gone out of my way to meet Poe and MZD because I think it's fun and it lets me get more information. Not because it's a perk (that I've only used once out of five times) of being an AP. I *have* tried to help APs meet Poe, get live stuff, have some fun just because they are APs...not very many people ever take me up on it though. For now, I wait. >I have a feeling that she is hurting right now and she >NEEDS us! I will >check with Jarrod and see if the poe@poe.org address >is still working and if >it is I will ask Paul to have her read your posts. Hmm...as of a year ago, Poe had 5000 letters waiting. - --Michele POElitics suck. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:24:42 EDT From: K3285@aol.com Subject: Re: Dan, Poe and the APs In a message dated 10/16/01 11:10:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, VR5SBloom@aol.com writes: > Poe owes us nothing. Likewise, we owe her nothing. Anything given by either > side is voluntary and done out of respect for each other. This is *SO* true!! I wish the folks here would realize this. There are very few artists that give of themselves as much as Poe does. Because Poe gives so much, I think people feel slighted when she is not giving of herself. Please everybody sit back, relax, take a deep breath and enjoy the wonderful music Poe has given us. Melissa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:50:09 -0400 From: "CathyS" Subject: NPR: Happy Birthday AP! Just a belated birthday wish... the Angry Psychos list turned 5 years old on Sunday. Happy Birthday! CathyS cathys@poe.org P.S. My 5-year AP anniversary is December 1st, in case anyone wants to get me a gift. :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:33:01 -0400 From: "mindy king" Subject: ap related we're falling apart at the seams. thats really all i wanted to say.... ~mindy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:37:25 EDT From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: Re: ap related Although we are going through a hard time right now w/ Dan being ignonred, and taking second hand info from Angie...were not falling apart! AP's CANT fall apart! We are not just people but an over all vibe and message of Poe! We are a spirit and a feeling....not just some bored internet freaks. VIVA" LA" PSYCHOS!!!! ~Gypsy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:29:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Richardson Subject: NPR: For what its worth In light of what has been happening I felt the need to toss my $.02 into the discussion. I have read the posts flying around about Dan and Angie and all that and although it saddens me when I think that we may have lost a line on inside info about our lady it gave time to pause and reflect on just what this list has given me. I joined here first and foremost because Poe rocks the fucking house. I was blown away by hello and if that wasn't enough my respect for her as an artist and a performer reached new heights when I saw her perform live. She has moved crowds like no other artist I have seen. The most immediate reward that this list provided was access to local people that felt the same way I do. I have met some beautiful folks through this list and that alone would be enough to make me stay. This makes me ask the question, what has really changed lately? So no one's telling us anything... so what? Am I still a fan? You be your sweet ass. Now I really feel like an ANGRY psycho. This list is as much about US as it is about Poe. I'm staying. -Alex *I need a hug!! Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:42:59 EDT From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Happy Birthday AP! In a message dated 10/16/01 1:52:18 PM Central Daylight Time, cathys@frontiernet.net writes: > Just a belated birthday wish... the Angry Psychos list turned 5 years old on > Wow another October birthday! ~*~ Burning inside (i cross myself it doesn't help) because I'm not smart enough (digging into hot white) learning not to lie (we cross it out and stay away) another sonic life~ Sonic Youth ~*~ I can't get laid cuz everyone is dead~ Sonic Youth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:43:17 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Happy Birthday AP! In a message dated 10/16/2001 2:52:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cathys@frontiernet.net writes: > Just a belated birthday wish... the Angry Psychos list turned 5 years old on > Sunday. > > Happy Birthday! >>>>>>>>> Hey...that was my birthday too:-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:15:32 EDT From: JaunasAddiccion@aol.com Subject: VERY POE RELATED: RE: TOUR DATES I went to ticketmaster.com today, as i have been for theentire duration of thisstandoff betwen angie's announcement that we'd get dates and now, and they have news first. Monday, Nov. 12 @ 8:00 PM Bogart's in Cincinnatti, OH. AND NO NEWS FROM ANGIE YET! - ---a very pissed off tinfoil dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:22:24 -0700 From: Miharu Nakatani Subject: KPR?: this whole... thang. Although my voice really isn't heard on here unless it's anime, jrock, or meaningless blather (the blather is reserved for houseofleaves.com ;p).. I decided it's time to speak up and say.. well, my 1 1/2 cents. I've only been a member of the AP list for a year now, but I've been a Poe fan since the early airings of Angry Johnny on KROQ (God bless them for doing something right, even if it was YEARS ago..). Since joining, I haven't had the opportunity like a lot of you to meet Poe or Mark.. either things came up, like a job interview during the Leno performance (which was cancelled just BEFORE i would have had to leave for Hollywood -_-).. or disappeared, like the rehearsal. No big deal, I say.. I'll get my chance(s) eventually. (i hope ;p) However.. when I joined the list, I figured that it would be just another fanlist: rumors, arguments, all that jazz.. but with none of the love. Well, I guess I was half right. ;p I was absolutely astonished (and uber-ass-kicked) that Poe was so close to us.. that she was so accessible and that everyone had this groove together. It was more than I could have ever dreamed, really. Sure, I could do without the majority of the NPR posts.. but I blame it on television. To quote Bart Simpson, "But Dad, thanks to television, I don't even remember what happened eight minutes ago!" I had taken a 1-2 month break from the list recently, and when I came back.. it's like (please.. don't take this the wrong way, it's not meant in bad taste or insensitivity) one of those planes crashed in the middle of the list. It's crazy around here, but I don't think I need to tell any AP that. ;p We seriously need to feel the love, and relax for a few minutes. Take that breather. Poe loves us as much as we love her, despite what all's going on. It might take time for things to go back to how they were (or an acceptable substitute).. but they will. And if they don't? Come on.. they will. ;p Never in my life have I ever known anyone like Poe. She surprises me on a daily basis.. and inspires me to be what I have always thought I couldn't. I'm, at times, a horribly misanthropic cynic.. but when I see/hear Poe's words.. I want to have her heart. She's quite possibly the most loving and kind person we all know.. and on top of all of that, she has to deal with being a celebrity. How anyone can stay as cool as Poe and still be a celebrity is completely beyond me. ;p - -Crystal (yes.. Crystal is my real name.. not Miharu.. get over it ;p) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:36:21 EDT From: Spidersrcute2@aol.com Subject: Re: Unrequited love I would have to say, "I wanna Know right now" by Smoking Popes. And Creep by Radiohead. Not going to put anymore on the list right now since typing sucks 'cause I cut my finger at work and bandaids don't like to bend much. Tracie P.S. Work sucks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:49:02 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: POE TOUR DATES!!!!! Yeah!!!!! The following 7 dates have been released. They were JUST released in the last 2 hours! 11/4 DV8 in Salt Lake City 11/5 Blue Bird Theater in Denver 11/7 Galaxy in St Louis 11/8 Double Door in Chicago 11/10 Shelter in Detroit 11/11 Odium in Cleveland 11/12 Bogarts in Cincinnati BE HAPPY!!!!! Happy Birthday Psychos!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:59:06 -0500 From: lance.kinney@amd.com Subject: RE: POE TOUR DATES!!!!! Yeah!!!!! *** Come on, Texas!!! *** (Note: That was a cheer of encouragement for Poe to appear at a Texas performance, not a command for the perverted minds out there ;-D ) LanceKitty > > > The following 7 dates have been released. They were JUST > released in the > last 2 hours! > > 11/4 DV8 in Salt Lake City > 11/5 Blue Bird Theater in Denver > 11/7 Galaxy in St Louis > 11/8 Double Door in Chicago > 11/10 Shelter in Detroit > 11/11 Odium in Cleveland > 11/12 Bogarts in Cincinnati > > > BE HAPPY!!!!! > > > Happy Birthday Psychos!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:00:42 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: ap related In a message dated 10/16/2001 12:34:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, same0ldsavage@hotmail.com writes: > we're falling apart at the seams. > > thats really all i wanted to say.... > > ~mindy > Not a CHANCE!!!! What doesn't kill you makes you stronger and we will come out of this stronger and tighter then EVER before!!!! I am more certain of it now then I have been in the last YEAR! God I love the Angry Psychos!!!! WE ROCK!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:04:40 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: POE TOUR DATES!!!!! Yeah!!!!! Just in case it isn't obvious these are ONLY the first dates, more to follow!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:12:18 EDT From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: POE TOUR DATES!!!!! Yeah!!!!! In a message dated 10/16/01 4:50:16 PM Central Daylight Time, Dan98908@aol.com writes: > > > > The following 7 dates have been released. They were JUST released in the > last 2 hours! > > 11/4 DV8 in Salt Lake City > 11/5 Blue Bird Theater in Denver > 11/7 Galaxy in St Louis > 11/8 Double Door in Chicago > 11/10 Shelter in Detroit > 11/11 Odium in Cleveland > 11/12 Bogarts in Cincinnati > > > BE HAPPY!!!!! > > > Happy Birthday Psychos!!!!!! > Dan is the memory god :) ~*~ Burning inside (i cross myself it doesn't help) because I'm not smart enough (digging into hot white) learning not to lie (we cross it out and stay away) another sonic life~ Sonic Youth ~*~ I can't get laid cuz everyone is dead~ Sonic Youth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:30:03 -0400 From: angie Subject: POE TOUR http://www.p-o-e.com You can register there and stay up to date on everything. Nov 4 -12 listed. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:51:59 EDT From: JaunasAddiccion@aol.com Subject: poe tour okay, so i can see Poe on nov. 10 & 12, and i get to see Sloan on nov 16....what a good week.... but it still pisses me off thatticketmaster had the dates first, THEY are the enemy, that's how scalpers find out and get ready to screw the fans over.....the shelter tho? she's playing the basement of St. Andy's??????? that's a really small venue to begin with (used to be a church), and the shelter only fits maybe 160 people or so....oh well, i'll be there no matter what. - ---tinfoil dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:54:22 EDT From: Wolvenlune@aol.com Subject: Re: POE TOUR DATES!!!!! Yeah!!!!! In a message dated 10/16/2001 5:49:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Dan98908@aol.com writes: > BE HAPPY!!!!! I'd LIKE to be happy but these dates are too soon for me to even begin to scrape up the money to go sooooooo.... to all the Psychos who get to see our Duchess.... ***enjoy it*** for me. it was a nice thought while it lasted. :***( ~alexandra ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:03:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Miki Proud Subject: Re: First Poe dates!!! (SLC is not THAT far from Reno!) - --- Dan Mohrbacher wrote: > The following 7 dates have been released. They were > JUST released in > the last 2 hours! > > 11/4 DV8 in Salt Lake City Now if I can just scrape together enough money to drive to Salt Lake City, I'll be a very happy psycho! ===== I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... Let the angels grace the land, for I have held you in my hand. And right there for a minute, I knew you so well Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:09:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Miki Proud Subject: Um...where do we get these tickets? Would anyone happen to know how we go about purchasing tickets for these events? There's only one venue listed on ticketmaster, and it's not the one I'm going to. ===== I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... Let the angels grace the land, for I have held you in my hand. And right there for a minute, I knew you so well Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:15:06 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: Um...where do we get these tickets? In a message dated 10/16/2001 4:09:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, talula658@yahoo.com writes: > Would anyone happen to know how we go about purchasing > tickets for these events? There's only one venue > listed on ticketmaster, and it's not the one I'm going to. > > Usually tickets for the venue are sold at CD Whse ( 801) 374-8433 or Heavy Metal (801) 467-7071. The club phone number is (801) 539-8400 but I get a fax/modem handshake when I call that number. I called both ticket sales locations and they have not been told of the date yet. I will announce more when I can get it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:23:24 -0400 From: "Notajunkie" Subject: RE: POE TOUR Is anyone else cold? Because after that comment, I feel very chilly.......... > > http://www.p-o-e.com > > You can register there and stay up to date on everything. > Nov 4 -12 listed. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:47:09 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: NPR: coldness In a message dated 10/16/2001 4:23:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, notajunkie@yahoo.com writes: > > Is anyone else cold? > > Because after that comment, I feel very chilly.......... > > > > > > http://www.p-o-e.com > > > > You can register there and stay up to date on everything. > > Nov 4 -12 listed. > > > Blow it off! Life goes on... we got the scoop almost an hour before Angie did! Angie is welcome here, as far as I am concerned, and I welcome ANY news that she chooses to share with us!!! Let's NOT look down on ANY news we can get from Poe no matter WHO she chooses to use to give it! I have a feeling if this is not resolved by 11/4, it will be soon after! I have been promised that Poe WILL hear what we say! I suggest that we ALL go to www.p-o-e.com and use the Angry Psychos section of the message boards to tell Poe how we feel! Paul thought that she would want to hear from us. I don't think that we will ALL be deleted....let's give it a try! He assured me that Poe was TRYING to make communication better by hiring Angie, I suggest that we let her know that Angie is welcome to work WITH us ( as opposed to telling us what to do.) If I can work with Angie then ANY of us should be able to and I will be HAPPY to work WITH her ( but not FOR her.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:53:31 -0400 From: "Notajunkie" Subject: RE: coldness Dude, joke...ha ha... enjoy life, make fun of it.....It's all just a game anyways... > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Dan98908@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:47 PM > To: notajunkie@yahoo.com; Angry-Psychos@smoe.org; > angie@momentumworldwire.com > Subject: NPR: coldness > > > > In a message dated 10/16/2001 4:23:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > notajunkie@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > Is anyone else cold? > > > > Because after that comment, I feel very chilly.......... > > > > > > > > > > http://www.p-o-e.com > > > > > > You can register there and stay up to date on everything. > > > Nov 4 -12 listed. > > > > > > > > Blow it off! Life goes on... we got the scoop almost an hour > before Angie > did! Angie is welcome here, as far as I am concerned, and I > welcome ANY news > that she chooses to share with us!!! > > Let's NOT look down on ANY news we can get from Poe no matter WHO > she chooses > to use to give it! I have a feeling if this is not resolved by > 11/4, it will > be soon after! > > I have been promised that Poe WILL hear what we say! > > I suggest that we ALL go to www.p-o-e.com and use the Angry > Psychos section > of the message boards to tell Poe how we feel! Paul thought that > she would > want to hear from us. I don't think that we will ALL be deleted....let's > give it a try! > > He assured me that Poe was TRYING to make communication better by hiring > Angie, I suggest that we let her know that Angie is welcome to > work WITH us > as opposed to telling us what to do.) > > If I can work with Angie then ANY of us should be able to and I > will be HAPPY > to work WITH her ( but not FOR her.) ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #463 ***********************************