From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #461 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, October 15 2001 Volume 06 : Number 461 Today's Subjects: ----------------- POE in the Mtv's DISMISSED!!!! [Prozackitty16@aol.com] NPR: Unrequited Love ["Frank Mojica" ] RE: Unrequited Love ["Marnell, Christina Marie" ] re: NPR Unrequited Love [Miki Proud ] Re: NPR: Unrequited Love [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR: Unrequited Love [KrodKnid@aol.com] Fw: Here is the actual article. ["Brian Brantley" ] Re: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! ["sp00k@poe.org" ] RE: Poe at NYU - tour non-update - offer from Dan to Poe [Ed Hunsinger ] Re: Poe will NOT be at NYU ["Enzo Molinari" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 01:36:43 EDT From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: POE in the Mtv's DISMISSED!!!! Oki..... So tonight I was watching the show DISMISSED(pretty lame...but I was bored) and they played Poe's Hey Pretty on it!!! I emidiately started (literally)jumoig around the room out of happiness!(I need a life!) It was only for like...10 seconds...but hey!! Its a start!!! ;-) ~Gypsy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 02:56:45 -0400 From: "Frank Mojica" Subject: NPR: Unrequited Love What songs relating to this should be put on a CD or winamp playlist? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:14:32 -0400 From: "Marnell, Christina Marie" Subject: RE: Unrequited Love a great song is Freeway by porno for pyros. It also has a great bass solo by flea on it. Marnell! - -----Original Message----- From: Frank Mojica To: Angry Psychos Digest Sent: 10/15/01 2:56 AM Subject: NPR: Unrequited Love What songs relating to this should be put on a CD or winamp playlist? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 07:27:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Miki Proud Subject: re: NPR Unrequited Love Just off the top of my head I'd say: "Hey Jupiter" by Tori Amos "Suede" by Tori Amos "Tear in Your Hand" by Tori Amos "Only the Girl" by Bif Naked "Anything" By Bif Naked "Everything" by Bif Naked "I Love You" by Sarah McLachlan "Possession" by Sarah McLachlan "Spanish Doll" by Poe "Hello" by Poe "20,000 Seconds" by K's Choice "Never Be The Same" by Luckie Strike "Tell it to the Sky" by Tracy Bonham "Squeeze Box Days" by The Murmurs "The First Taste" by Fiona Apple "It Could Be Sweet" by Portishead "One Last Time" by Veruca Salt I'm sure there are more, but that's all my feeble mind can conceive at this wee hour of the morning. ===== I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... Let the angels grace the land, for I have held you in my hand. And right there for a minute, I knew you so well Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:45:05 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Unrequited Love In a message dated 10/15/2001 2:56:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, odufrank@home.com writes: > What songs relating to this should be put on a CD or winamp playlist? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Berlioz - "Symphonie Fantastique"...you kind of have to know what it is about (the original 1830 Paris audience had a program), since it is a symphony and has no lyrics *heh, heh* . It is one of the great monuments to unrequited love. The main guy is an artist who is afflicted by being madly in love with a woman who is unattainable because he is a nobody and she doesn't love him. The work includes the guy trying to kill himself with an opium overdose, which only sends him into a wild dreamscape in which he murders the girl in a jealous fit, is beheaded at the guillotine, and winds up at some kind of witches sabbat in hell where he is horrified to find the object of his love dancing around with all manner of demons and witches...cool huh:-) Thing is, it is practically an autobiography of shit that went on in Berlioz' own young life before he "made it big". Barring this (a symphony is a bit long and not a song) you might try the classic "You Don't Know Me". It has been recorded by a bunch of different people from C&W singers to lounge lizard types to R&B artists to rockers. It is about the torment of being madly in love with someone who is "just a friend" and doesn't know how you feel. Another good one might be "Tourniquet" by Marylin Manson...especially the cover of it by Rasputina. It is sort of about a love that just doesn't "work"...but could just as easily be about that kind of unrequited love that results in the victim becoming a "clinging vine". How about "3 Libras" by A Perfect Circle? It is more about unreciprocated love (being passed over)...which might as well be unrequited love. A very moving song. I know a girl (former AP even) who nursed herself through the tragically unfulfilled love of her life with this song. I might suggest "How To Hang Yourself" by Soul Whirling Somewhere, but I am not quite sure what it is about...definitely something heartbreaking going on in there though. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:31:43 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Unrequited Love In a message dated 10/15/2001 2:56:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, odufrank@home.com writes: > What songs relating to this should be put on a CD or winamp playlist? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Would it be too obvious to suggest "Michelle" by the Beatles? Also their > song "For No-one". > "One Last Breath" by Black Tape For A Blue Girl might do as well...it is > so heart-on-the-sleeve it is almost embarassing to listen to. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:38:11 -0400 From: "Brian Brantley" Subject: Fw: Here is the actual article. MessageAn Open Letter to the "Anti-War" Demonstrators: Think Twice = Before You Bring The War Home FrontPageMagazine.com | September 27, 2001 Editor's Note: The text below is being run as an advertisement in = college newspapers around the country. To see a graphic version of the = ad, click here.=20 I AM a former anti-war activist who helped to organize the first campus = demonstration against the war in Vietnam at the University of = California, Berkeley in 1962. I appeal to all those young people who = participated in "anti-war" demonstrations on 150 college campuses this = week, to think again and not to join an "anti-war" effort against = America's coming battle with international terrorism.=20 =20 Make Comments=20 View Comments=20 Printable Article=20 Email Article=20 =20 =20 =20 The hindsight of history has shown that our efforts in the 1960s to end = the war in Vietnam had two practical effects. The first was to prolong = the war itself. Every testimony by North Vietnamese generals in the = postwar years has affirmed that they knew they could not defeat the = United States on the battlefield, and that they counted on the division = of our people at home to win the war for them. The Vietcong forces we = were fighting in South Vietnam were destroyed in 1968. In other words, = most of the war and most of the casualties in the war occurred because = the dictatorship of North Vietnam counted on the fact Americans would = give up the battle rather than pay the price necessary to win it. This = is what happened. The blood of hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese, and = tens of thousands of Americans, is on the hands of the anti-war = activists who prolonged the struggle and gave victory to the Communists. The second effect of the war was to surrender South Vietnam to the = forces of Communism. This resulted in the imposition of a monstrous = police state, the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent South = Vietnamese, the incarceration in "re-education camps" of hundreds of = thousands more, and a quarter of a century of abject poverty imposed by = crackpot Marxist economic plans, which continue to this day. This, too, = is the responsibility of the so-called anti-war movement of the 1960s. I say "so-called anti-war movement," because while many Americans were = sincerely troubled by America's war effort, the organizers of this = movement were Marxists and radicals who supported a Communist victory = and an American defeat. Today the same people and their youthful = followers are organizing the campus demonstrations against America's = effort to defend its citizens against the forces of international = terrorism and anti-American hatred, responsible for the September = attacks. I know, better than most, the importance of protecting freedom of speech = and the right of citizens to dissent. But I also know better than most, = that there is a difference between honest dissent and malevolent hate, = between criticism of national policy, and sabotage of the nation's = defenses. In the 1960s and 1970s, the tolerance of anti-American hatreds = was so high, that the line between dissent and treason was eventually = erased. Along with thousands of other New Leftists, I was one who = crossed the line between dissent and actual treason. (I have written an = account of these matters in my autobiography, Radical Son). I did so for = what I thought were the noblest of reasons: to advance the cause of = "social justice" and "peace." I have lived to see how wrong I was and = how much damage we did - especially to those whose cause we claimed to = embrace, the peasants of Indo-China who suffered grievously from our = support for the Communist enemy. I came to see how precious are the = freedoms and opportunities afforded by America to the poorest and most = humble of its citizens, and how rare its virtues are in the world at = large. If I have one regret from my radical years, it is that this country was = too tolerant towards the treason of its enemies within. If patriotic = Americans had been more vigilant in the defense of their country, if = they had called things by their right names, if they had confronted us = with the seriousness of our attacks, they might have caught the = attention of those of us who were well-meaning but utterly misguided. = And they might have stopped us in our tracks.=20 This appeal is for those of you who are out there today attacking your = country, full of your own self-righteousness, but who one day might also = live to regret what you have done. David Horowitz is editor-in-chief of FrontPageMagazine.com and = president of the Center for the Study of Popular Culture. =20 View Comments | Make Comments | Email this Article Horowitz's Notepad Archive=20 I am Simper Fi Richard Hoffman SGT USMCRet http://www.members.tripod.com/Lima35 [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of greypix.gif] [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of make_icon.gif] [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of view_icon.gif] [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of printer_icon.gif] [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of mail_icon.gif] [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Notebook.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:49:33 -0400 From: "Stephen van Vuuren" Subject: RE: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! Please use NPR. And then, I think, forwarded articles to a mailing list, even with NPR headers are electronic littering, spam, junk. Please stop. Think a few seconds before shooting this stuff off. Do you really think we are interested? Do you really think you are changing minds or informing the world or making the Poe list better? If you are really passionate about this, there are tons of lists out there overflowing with this stuff. Start a web-site, join the army, do something other than clutter up the list. stephen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:11:14 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: NPR Streaming Video @ My Site I have added "streaming video" to my webcam site. In my case "streaming video" means an updateaded image about every 10 seconds. I could use some feedback to know if anybody is able to view it. http://www.frontiernet.net/~domonroe Select one of the buttons at the very top of the page pointing to streaming vidoe. the main DigitalSter page has not had this feature added. Thanks. sp00k etc ... ============================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:18:36 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen van Vuuren" To: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: RE: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! > > Please use NPR. And then, I think, forwarded articles to a mailing list, > even with NPR headers are electronic littering, spam, junk. Please stop. > Think a few seconds before shooting this stuff off. Do you really think we > are interested? You are correct on the NPR issue, but you are WRONG about the rest, and you make it pretty clear what side of the coin YOU are on, thus propagating your cause while telling others to be quiet. get a life lamer. sp00k etc ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:27:22 -0700 (PDT) From: joe a Subject: Re: NPR A clear head and a cold heart... Ummmm I don't suppose you saw the rest of my statements where I said we needed to strengthen internal security? Or maybe that is your little propaganda ploy. I don't know and I don't care. As for you being pissed off, well remember: It is better to be pissed off then pissed on. Have a great day! Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:30:36 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen van Vuuren" To: "'sp00k@poe.org'" ; Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 12:25 PM Subject: RE: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! So I would appreciate you not posting personal > attacks or mistaken assumptions to me or the list. > Your words provide for plenty of ASSumptions "If you are really passionate about this, there are tons of lists out there overflowing with this stuff. Start a web-site, join the army, do something other than clutter up the list." and since you chose to reply to the list instead of me personaly, thus once again propogating YOUR cause, heres one back at ya. Piece, of ass that is.. sp00k etc ... ==================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:45:58 -0400 From: "Brian Brantley" Subject: Re: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! I'm sorry....I forgot the NPR. My appologies to all. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen van Vuuren" To: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: RE: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! Please use NPR. And then, I think, forwarded articles to a mailing list, even with NPR headers are electronic littering, spam, junk. Please stop. Think a few seconds before shooting this stuff off. Do you really think we are interested? Do you really think you are changing minds or informing the world or making the Poe list better? If you are really passionate about this, there are tons of lists out there overflowing with this stuff. Start a web-site, join the army, do something other than clutter up the list. stephen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:14:31 -0400 From: "Brian Brantley" Subject: NPRNPRNPRNPR: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! And by the way, after reading you reply, it really pissed me off how out of the loop you really are. Do you not realize that this is the single most important thing that has happend in the last two decades?????? The actions that are going on now will shape the world for years to come!!! Our children will read about these days in their history books!!!! Wake up!!! Pay attention!!!! When you grandchildren ask ask you about what went on during these times, wouldn't you love to have something other to say that "huh? What do you mean??" Not interested!!!! WHAT WOULD INTEREST YOU??????? PS. You'll notice that this header has NPR.. You know....hate to waste you time....... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen van Vuuren" To: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: RE: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! Please use NPR. And then, I think, forwarded articles to a mailing list, even with NPR headers are electronic littering, spam, junk. Please stop. Think a few seconds before shooting this stuff off. Do you really think we are interested? Do you really think you are changing minds or informing the world or making the Poe list better? If you are really passionate about this, there are tons of lists out there overflowing with this stuff. Start a web-site, join the army, do something other than clutter up the list. stephen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:36:29 EDT From: JaunasAddiccion@aol.com Subject: VERY NPR: weekend changes in the war, etc. this post deals with the war and the possibility of a draft and the obvious case of draft dodging if the draft occurs. With that said, DELETE THIS MESSAGE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ IT, but if you CHOOSE to read it i heartily suggest that you do not flame me or the list. Okay, so i went away for 40 hours this weekend to see a few shows (they were great). I come back home, EVERYONE is planning to move to Canada, many of my best friends who have to keep reminding me of their huge IQs are of teh midset that there will be a draft soon and they don't want to fight. their reasons? (keep in mind these are intelligent people, so they should be logical reasons, i would have thought...) one person says he just doesn't want to fight and that he doesn't have to explain this to me. I thought friends would be more willing to discuss things of this magnitude. another says that he has PLANS for what he wants to do with his life...and nobody else does? i have no opinion on this matter (well, based on current happenings) as i have no idea what has happened since friday around 2 PM michigan time...all i know is that i come back home and everyone i talk to suddenly has deep rooted feelings and opinions on this subject that they can't/don't feel it necessary to explain to me, a close friend. now, since those that i trust and care for won't help me out on this, could anyone email me back and tell me what is going on? any reasons for everyone wanting to run away and NO i don't want to hear the same rhetoric they've been spewing since the war started, because i've hear dthe lame excuses, i want something more definitive on a person, i mean, really, i am interested on valid things on peoples minds. if you've read this far, thanks for at least humoring me. - ---tinfoil dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:40:02 -0400 From: "kelli helbig" Subject: Re: NPRNPRNPRNPR: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! first off it says NPR... second of all if you dont like whats being sent..delete it ...and also alot of people care about this because alot of people are interested... so like its been said before.. you have a delete button for a reason no one forces you to read it ..if you dont like it ...delete it >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Stephen van Vuuren" >To: >Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:49 AM >Subject: RE: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! > > > >Please use NPR. And then, I think, forwarded articles to a mailing list, >even with NPR headers are electronic littering, spam, junk. Please stop. >Think a few seconds before shooting this stuff off. Do you really think we >are interested? Do you really think you are changing minds or informing the >world or making the Poe list better? > >If you are really passionate about this, there are tons of lists out there >overflowing with this stuff. Start a web-site, join the army, do something >other than clutter up the list. > >stephen _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:09:03 -0400 From: "kelli helbig" Subject: Re: NPRNPRNPRNPR: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! ok that makes no sense to even me and i wrote it my head isnt screwed on tight today. what i MEANT to say was alot of people are interested because its happening to us, and our country. pay attention now because someday your kids may ask you what went on and all you'll be able to say is "i argued about..i dont know what..with people who didnt talk about poe" and of course they will look at you like your stupid. so either delete it or read it.. who knows you may learn something new >From: "kelli helbig" >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: NPRNPRNPRNPR: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! >Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:40:02 -0400 > > >first off it says NPR... second of all if you dont like whats being >sent..delete it ...and also alot of people care about this because alot of >people are interested... so like its been said before.. you have a delete >button for a reason no one forces you to read it ..if you dont like it >...delete it > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Stephen van Vuuren" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:49 AM >>Subject: RE: Here is the actual article NPR!!!! >> >> >> >>Please use NPR. And then, I think, forwarded articles to a mailing list, >>even with NPR headers are electronic littering, spam, junk. Please stop. >>Think a few seconds before shooting this stuff off. Do you really think we >>are interested? Do you really think you are changing minds or informing >>the >>world or making the Poe list better? >> >>If you are really passionate about this, there are tons of lists out there >>overflowing with this stuff. Start a web-site, join the army, do something >>other than clutter up the list. >> >>stephen > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 15:17:45 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Streaming Video @ My Site In a message dated 10/15/2001 12:14:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, usscvn65@frontiernet.net writes: > I have added "streaming video" to my webcam site. > > In my case "streaming video" means an updateaded > image about every 10 seconds. > > I could use some feedback to know if anybody is > able to view it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very nice, Meester SpOoK...nice big pictures and very clear and detailed. And the updates are smooth and quick, not all clunky like a lot of webcams. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 15:27:07 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Poe at NYU - tour non-update - offer from Dan to Poe In reference to your comment: h From: tophat81@hotmail.com (Enzo Molinari) h Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org To: h angry-psychos@smoe.org update time....POE and h special guest scheduled for 8:30 this Thursday, prob h at Irving Plaza, supposedly a benefit for the Red Cross h or another charity. This makes me wonder since we h have not heard any info from NYU or official channels h about this, whether this was an event planned before, h and now is delayed/cancelled, or whether it is to be h put on now? Apparently there was not any ticket info h on the flyer other than "$5 for NYU students." h Hopefully this is actually going to go on, I guess we'll h hear the complete story soon enough As to the NYU event: I have heard NOTHING back from Poe's publicist, my request from info on p-o-e.com was censored, Nettwerk simply says "that is not confirmed" but when asked if it was rumor or pending they would only say "not confirmed". I am waiting to hear back from Paul. I called NYU and it was on their calendar but was canceled. Sooooo we shall see what happens! I also asked about the tour that starts in two weeks and again, no response from Poe's publicist and Nettwerk says nothing confirmed, but it still looks like a "go" announcement should be "soon." Just so YOU all will know, I have offered to resign as a Director and from the list if Poe asks me to. I don't know if I am the problem or what, I have only done my best. But now neither Poe or her spokesman are posting to the AP list or responding to my requests for information and I now see myself as a detriment to the Angry Psychos. I appreciate all the support you all have given me. I know I said that I would not go, but if my being here hurts Poe or hurts the Psychos, then I will leave, that is the bottom line. But I have to hear it from Poe or Paul. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 15:30:02 -0400 From: "Brian Brantley" Subject: Re: NPR Streaming Video @ My Site I've just got one question.........With a name like Spook, what are you going to be for halloween??? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: Re: NPR Streaming Video @ My Site In a message dated 10/15/2001 12:14:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, usscvn65@frontiernet.net writes: > I have added "streaming video" to my webcam site. > > In my case "streaming video" means an updateaded > image about every 10 seconds. > > I could use some feedback to know if anybody is > able to view it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very nice, Meester SpOoK...nice big pictures and very clear and detailed. And the updates are smooth and quick, not all clunky like a lot of webcams. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:37:24 -0700 From: "Tim Dube" Subject: Re: Poe at NYU - tour non-update - offer from Dan to Poe This is unexceptable as far as I'm concerned, and I suspect I am not alone! Dan has done nothing but help Poe and the AP's. If he is asked to go I too will be leaving out of protest. I've been an AP since there were AP's. I've been here for every power strugle, silly NPR topic, and flame fest. I've also been here for all the good times: numerous AP gatherings, richmond, rochester, toronto, etc. tape trees, chat's. I'd hate to leave but I will if Dan is asked/forced to leave. Hopfully we can get any problems resolved and it won't come to this. tim - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Dan98908@aol.com To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Poe at NYU - tour non-update - offer from Dan to Poe Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 15:27:07 EDT In reference to your comment: h From: tophat81@hotmail.com (Enzo Molinari) h Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org To: h angry-psychos@smoe.org update time....POE and h special guest scheduled for 8:30 this Thursday, prob h at Irving Plaza, supposedly a benefit for the Red Cross h or another charity. This makes me wonder since we h have not heard any info from NYU or official channels h about this, whether this was an event planned before, h and now is delayed/cancelled, or whether it is to be h put on now? Apparently there was not any ticket info h on the flyer other than "$5 for NYU students." h Hopefully this is actually going to go on, I guess we'll h hear the complete story soon enough As to the NYU event: I have heard NOTHING back from Poe's publicist, my request from info on p-o-e.com was censored, Nettwerk simply says "that is not confirmed" but when asked if it was rumor or pending they would only say "not confirmed". I am waiting to hear back from Paul. I called NYU and it was on their calendar but was canceled. Sooooo we shall see what happens! I also asked about the tour that starts in two weeks and again, no response from Poe's publicist and Nettwerk says nothing confirmed, but it still looks like a "go" announcement should be "soon." Just so YOU all will know, I have offered to resign as a Director and from the list if Poe asks me to. I don't know if I am the problem or what, I have only done my best. But now neither Poe or her spokesman are posting to the AP list or responding to my requests for information and I now see myself as a detriment to the Angry Psychos. I appreciate all the support you all have given me. I know I said that I would not go, but if my being here hurts Poe or hurts the Psychos, then I will leave, that is the bottom line. But I have to hear it from Poe or Paul. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:57:55 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: NPR Streaming Video @ My Site - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Brantley" To: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 3:30 PM Subject: Re: NPR Streaming Video @ My Site > > I've just got one question.........With a name like Spook, what are you > going to be for halloween??? > Why the invisable man of couse! There is a possibility I will put a monitor case over my head, but considering where I will be Wed, Oct. 31 WBER Halloween Show with New Found Glory, H2O, RX Bandits and Piebald I'm thinking standard white sheet, no pointed hat/cross with some eye and smoke holes. sp00k etc ... b00 !!! ======================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:59:04 EDT From: CountingSpiders@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe at NYU - tour non-update - offer from Dan to Poe I second that... If/when Dan is asked to leave the Angry Psychos (and/or "refrain" from what has only been HELPFUL) I will be gone too. I can't believe (and am utterly disgusted) at what I've seen happening right before our eyes! I hope this doesn't go as high up as Poe, and in my heart, don't believe it does. I hope she doesn't even know of all the turmoil going on -- BUT, if it comes back that she does, and she's unwilling to work with us -- her biggest fans -- then why should I (or any of us) bend over backwards for her? It's terrible...and I'm saddened at even the THOUGHT of this being Poe's doing -- but if it is, I'm out... Please, please, please don't be aware of this Poe... Be Blissed, Sean ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:12:43 -0500 From: "Oona ***" Subject: cant say no i just downloaded this song called cant say no. it says that it is by POE and it sounds like her...but i have never heard of it...is this her? thanks toodles tara _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:51:42 -0400 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: RE: Poe at NYU - tour non-update - offer from Dan to Poe Navelsex too... The APs has always been more of a grass roots family thing for me. And I love that. I've been here since almost the beginning (missed the first few months.) and enjoyed almost all of it, but now that all these politics have come into effect I'm getting kind of sick. So, let me put me vote in for grass roots, with communication from Atlantic, but no censorship.. I'm appalled at the stories I hear of posts being pulled from the p-o-e site. That's ridiculous. A bulletin board is a place for people to post comments, thoughts, ideas, criticisms. None of which should be censored or removed. So, if Dan is asked to leave, so will I. The man has done nothing but good for us. I look up to him as I did to Jarrod in the Hello days. This man pulled cash out of his own pocket to pay for tickets to a DM/Poe show for many of us. If that's not dedication, I'm not sure what is. On a side note, it would be nice to hear what the whole deal with these college tours is. I know several people on this list have direct access to the student activities that go on at their school.. If I knew, or ever know if any of these concerts are for real, I can get the school to book it, or hell, even book it through our own university funded organization. If I remember correctly, it was this lack of communication with the higher ups that has been the number one complaint of involved APs for a very long time. How come noone up there wants to step up and fix it? >===== Original Message From Tim Dube ===== >This is unexceptable as far as I'm concerned, and I suspect I am not alone! >Dan has done nothing but help Poe and the AP's. If he is asked to go I too >will be leaving out of protest. I've been an AP since there were AP's. >I've been here for every power strugle, silly NPR topic, and flame fest. >I've also been here for all the good times: numerous AP gatherings, >richmond, rochester, toronto, etc. tape trees, chat's. I'd hate to leave >but I will if Dan is asked/forced to leave. Hopfully we can get any >problems resolved and it won't come to this. > >tim > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Dan98908@aol.com >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Poe at NYU - tour non-update - offer from Dan to Poe >Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 15:27:07 EDT > > >In reference to your comment: > >h From: tophat81@hotmail.com (Enzo Molinari) >h Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org To: >h angry-psychos@smoe.org update time....POE and >h special guest scheduled for 8:30 this Thursday, prob >h at Irving Plaza, supposedly a benefit for the Red Cross >h or another charity. This makes me wonder since we >h have not heard any info from NYU or official channels >h about this, whether this was an event planned before, >h and now is delayed/cancelled, or whether it is to be >h put on now? Apparently there was not any ticket info >h on the flyer other than "$5 for NYU students." >h Hopefully this is actually going to go on, I guess we'll >h hear the complete story soon enough > > >As to the NYU event: I have heard NOTHING back from Poe's publicist, my >request from info on p-o-e.com was censored, Nettwerk simply says "that is >not confirmed" but when asked if it was rumor or pending they would only say >"not confirmed". I am waiting to hear back from Paul. > >I called NYU and it was on their calendar but was canceled. > >Sooooo we shall see what happens! I also asked about the tour that starts >in two weeks and again, no response from Poe's publicist and Nettwerk says >nothing confirmed, but it still looks like a "go" announcement should be >"soon." > >Just so YOU all will know, I have offered to resign as a Director and from >the list if Poe asks me to. I don't know if I am the problem or what, I >have >only done my best. >But now neither Poe or her spokesman are posting to the AP list or >responding to my requests for information and I now see myself as a >detriment >to the Angry Psychos. > >I appreciate all the support you all have given me. I know I said that I >would not go, but if my being here hurts Poe or hurts the Psychos, then I >will leave, that is the bottom line. But I have to hear it from Poe or >Paul. > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - -Ed (Divinity) ed@poe.org http://divinity.relic.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:17:00 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe at NYU - tour non-update - offer from Dan to Poe In a message dated 10/15/2001 6:53:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hunsin_e@denison.edu writes: > Navelsex too... The APs has always been more of a grass roots family thing > for me. And I love that. I've been here since almost the beginning > (missed > the first few months.) and enjoyed almost all of it, but now that all these > politics have come into effect I'm getting kind of sick. So, let me put me > vote in for grass roots, with communication from Atlantic, but no > censorship.. > I'm appalled at the stories I hear of posts being pulled from the p-o-e > site. > That's ridiculous. A bulletin board is a place for people to post > comments, > thoughts, ideas, criticisms. None of which should be censored or removed. > So, if Dan is asked to leave, so will I. The man has done nothing but good > for us. I look up to him as I did to Jarrod in the Hello days. This man > pulled cash out of his own pocket to pay for tickets to a DM/Poe show for > many > of us. If that's not dedication, I'm not sure what is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, I'm down with Ed and Dan et al. I haven't been here for the duration, but I have been here a number of years. I have nothing against Angie...I thought she was pretty cool actually, but I had no idea she was supposed to usurp the regular AP lines of info. And since I can't stand politics, social games, and the all powerful weasel industry...if the behind-the-scenes agenda is to co-opt the APs and scrape them off as the residue of "product Poe", then frankly I just don't have the heart to stick around for it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:19:55 EDT From: Finedragonfly7@aol.com Subject: kpr-hearing poe at work i was at my first day of work and someone had a radio on, i caught like mostly the end but it was so cool to hear "hey pretty" ... it was like a good luck charm....i should have checked out the station ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:17:26 -0500 From: "Montine Rene Schuh" Subject: Just an odd request... Hello ~ Just was wondering where a girl who likes POE's eye glitter could get that "look?" - --Like on her CD--- I have a shy friend that didn't want to ask! :) Any info would be greatly appreciated! Montine POE Rocks!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 23:37:10 -0400 From: "Enzo Molinari" Subject: Re: Poe will NOT be at NYU Just to elaborate about the POE and NYU situation, for those who care. I would also like to publicly voice my support for Dan. He's been very good to us, as we all know, and it would be very disappointing to see him go. Kung-Gene - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Shani Lieberman To: tophat81@hotmail.com Subject: Poe will NOT be at NYU Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Hi- i went to ticket central today and asked. they said that originally the program board was going to bring her here for thursday but instead it will be rainer maria and guided by voices playing. i also asked if they knew if poe would ever be here, and they said no. sorry. - -shani p.s. can you post this info to the list? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #461 ***********************************