From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #449 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Tuesday, October 9 2001 Volume 06 : Number 449 Today's Subjects: ----------------- To Dean ["Gary Owens" ] To Dan ["Gary Owens" ] Re: Three weeks from the first date, but where will it be? VERY AP related! [Dan98908@aol] Incorporation of the Angry Psychos [Dan98908@aol.com] NPRL Pretty Crazy... WTC [Cyberfan Corporation ] Re: Incorporation of the Angry Psychos [PURPLMOJO@aol.com] Re: To Dan [Peaceofpiedesign@aol.com] NPR A Peaceful Solution. ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. [ndr ] Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. ["John A. Bell" ] Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. ["Brian Brantley" ] Re[1] NPR A Peaceful Solution. [Thierry Pottier ] Re: Re[1] NPR A Peaceful Solution. ["John A. Bell" ] Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: Re[1] NPR A Peaceful Solution. [Phaethonsmusic@aol.com] Navelsex... [EMOKidsSmell@aol.com] Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. [Cyberfan Corporation ] Poe information in general... ["Brian M" ] Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. [ndr ] Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. [ndr ] Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. [ndr ] RE: Wild Radio Edit/Mix [Ed Hunsinger ] Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. [ndr ] NPR A clear head...... ["Brian Brantley" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 06:04:24 +0000 From: "Gary Owens" Subject: To Dean Dean- Man you NEED to chill the hell out! I haven't been on this list very long but man!...you really just need to calm down. You just seem to complain about alot of stuff. I wouldn't mind it soo much but you write the longest damn complaints I've ever seen. Yes you do make a valid point..3 weeks till the first Poe date and no venue has been annouced, I understand that-I want to know myself. But to me it just seems like your jealous that you don't have Angie's spot. Angie's doing a good job..just accept that Poe news dosen't come every hour on the hour and when it does Angie tells us. Well whatever..you're prolly gonna be mad @ me once you read this..but someone has to say it. Poe reads this right? Well don't you think she might get annoyed @ you complaining about Angie when POE herself chose Angie to do this? Well neways I'm out. Gary _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 06:47:05 +0000 From: "Gary Owens" Subject: To Dan Sorry about the name thing! I'm taking some allergy stuff and it makes my drowsy..so for some reason I thought of Dean. I do know who he is...I'm not that new. Dan replyed privatley to my message and after hearing his side I understand why he'd be concerned w/Poe and everything. So I appoligize for the comment. Neways thats what I have to say. Gary _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 02:50:16 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: Three weeks from the first date, but where will it be? VERY AP related! Hello Dan98908, In reference to your comment: h As for someone buying the APs, nope. Nobody owns h us...HOWEVER, we are in the process of becoming a h legal entity. Angry Psychos, Inc has been filed with h Jarrod as President, Tim , Mark and myself as directors. I left out that Robby Black also is on the initial Board of Directors of Angry Psychos,Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 03:17:16 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Incorporation of the Angry Psychos We are pleased to announce that we are now a legal Corporation. As of 10/9/2001 an entity known as Angry Psychos, Inc. has been created. The initial board of directors has names you know well! Board members will serve three year terms and be elected from the shareholders. Shareholders consist of everyone in the Ward. The initial directors are as follows: Jarrod Kniff Term will expire 4/2004 Tim Dube Term will expire 4/2004 Tony Cusomono Term will expire 4/2003 Robby Black Term will Expire 4/2003 Mark Loit Term Will Expire 4/2002 Dan Mohrbacher Term will expire 4/2002 There are numerous reasons for this move, which we believe important to our continued growth as an organization and to better facilitate our recognition by the various business organizations that we interface with. When Atlantic looks for a Street Team to contract with in the future, as a corporation we can bid on the project. We have come up with some GREAT Poe gear ideas among our membership. Rather then some nameless foreign company making them and Poe getting little to nothing IF they ever get produced at all, we will be able to license items and offer them for sale as licensed merchandise and offer to Poe or charities proceeds that would otherwise go elsewhere. We also need this type of structure to raise money for Las Vegas, 2002! There are many other reasons that will become clear with time and as YOU who make up and ARE Angry Psychos,Inc. will determine. This way we have the opportunity to speak with a unified voice to Atlantic, Nettwerk Management, or any other business entities who choose to join us in supporting Poe. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:04:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: NPRL Pretty Crazy... WTC http://www.spaceimaging.com/ads/attack_banner3.htm Pretty crazy... be sure to "mouse-over" the image... *************************************************** JK/// Jarrod Kniff President - Cyberfan Corporation jarrod@cyberfan.com *************************************************** "One important key to success is self-confidence. An important key to self-confidence is preparation." -- Arthur Ashe *************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 04:57:35 EDT From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com Subject: Re: Incorporation of the Angry Psychos Hey wow this is cool Angry Psycho's inc. Shares my birthday 8-) YAAAyyy Well my birthday is starting out Awesome now. This is an awesome gift knowing i'm now a Shareholder of the Angry Psycho's . Now if my poe shirts come in today as well I will be starting to have one of the best birthdays yet ;-) Hey Julie hope you got those shirts out friday and sent priority hehe.. Lord Lonnie A.K.A The old Blue Bastard haha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:30:31 EDT From: Peaceofpiedesign@aol.com Subject: Re: To Dan In a message dated 10/9/01 1:05:45 AM Central Daylight Time, acee_1@hotmail.com writes: > Dan- > > Man you NEED to chill the hell out! I haven't been on this list very long > but man!...you really just need to calm down. You just seem to complain > about alot of stuff. I wouldn't mind it soo much but you write the longest > I know personally just how much work this list can be. My part, the sale of tees, has kept me soooo busy, I hardly have time for anything else. Dan has spent 10 times the amount of time I have ... as far as I'm concerned, that gives him the right to bitch as much as he damn well feels like. It is a shame that things are turning out the way they have been recently. I know exactly how it feels to go the extra mile only to feel unappreciated due to the ups and downs on the list. I can certainly understand Poe's decision to bring Angie on board, a direct line is a great thing. However, it seems to me a part of what is so fucking great about this group is that the AP's have a chance to really help and be a part of something. Hell, I will soon be just a memory, too. When the AP merchandise is officially available through poe's official site, I am bowing out to avoid stepping on any "upper crust" toes. It's a damn shame. Hang in there Dan. I love ya man. Julie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:12:45 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: NPR A Peaceful Solution. Hey, just so I don't leave the wrong impression LOL ... I'm not one of these people who just want to bomb for the sake of bombing. I agree to some extent, with those who say we should seek alternative methods to deal with these terrorists. I have been thinking about that guy who set himself afire while setting fire to the U.S. Flag. (see my previous post "Funny Flag Burning") It is my proposal that we drop U.S. Flags, and matches on our enemies. The flags should be open like a sheet and the matches should be dropped as single books, so that we are sure we don't harm any "innocents" aka minimize "collateral damage" You people on active duty should pass this up the chain of command, AND I'd be haPPy to hEAR from those of you who are "pacifists" I know that burning the flag goes against everything we know, but our President has said this will be a new kind of war. We did arms for hostages, we can do flags and matches as long as we are HONEST with the American people about it. See ya at the BBQ partner... sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://DigitalSter.Com ================================ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 07:44:36 -0700 (PDT) From: ndr Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. This would probably be a more effective solution than what we are doing. Congratulations George. You are bombing the hell out of one of the poorest countries in the world whos only power is in the peoples nationalism that you are now rallying against you. You think the food drops are helping? Most people aren't eating them because they think they are poisoned. Do you really think you are doing damage by blowing up "terrorist training camps" which are nothing more than a bunch of tents in the desert that can be rebuilt anywhere? Seems your PR department is doing a good job of convincing people this is effective though. How about the seizing of funds? Might no be a good idea George because the money trail will lead back to your associates. Hello, FBI terrorist hotline? I have a few people to report that have helped or funded terrorists. Here Goes: Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr, George W. Bush, Orrin Hatch, Henry Kissinger, Bill Clinton, etc, etc, etc. We can no longer call ourselves civilized. We are all barbarians where chaos is only irrationality. On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, sp00k@poe.org wrote: > > Hey, just so I don't leave the wrong impression LOL ... > > I'm not one of these people who just want to bomb for > the sake of bombing. > > I agree to some extent, with those who say we should > seek alternative methods to deal with these terrorists. > > I have been thinking about that guy who set himself afire > while setting fire to the U.S. Flag. > > (see my previous post "Funny Flag Burning") > > It is my proposal that we drop U.S. Flags, and matches > on our enemies. The flags should be open like a sheet > and the matches should be dropped as single books, so > that we are sure we don't harm any "innocents" aka > minimize "collateral damage" > > You people on active duty should pass this up the > chain of command, AND I'd be haPPy to hEAR > from those of you who are "pacifists" > > I know that burning the > flag goes against everything we know, but our President > has said this will be a new kind of war. We did arms > for hostages, we can do flags and matches as long > as we are HONEST with the American people about it. > > See ya at the BBQ partner... > > sp00k etc ... > Http://Poe.Org > Http://DigitalSter.Com > ================================ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:12:20 -0400 From: "John A. Bell" Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. Okay, someone isn't paying attention it seems. First mistake: As Bush has indicated repeatedly, and which the Afghan people have confirmed as understood, we are not at war with Afghanistan. Second mistake: We are not rallying the country against us. The Afghan people, both here and in Afghanistan, are largely supporting our efforts against the terrorist regime that is holding their nation hostage. It is the Taliban's fault the Afghan's are starving, not ours. Third mistake: Our food IS being eaten by the refugees. Fourth mistake: The terrorist camps are not tents, but small compounds that contain training grounds, courses, etc. Before you criticize the plan, and the tactics, and the results, know what they actually are before coming to your own conclusions. Thanks. - ----- Original Message ----- From: ndr To: sp00k@poe.org Cc: Angry-Psychos Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 10:44 AM Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. > > This would probably be a more effective solution than what we are doing. > Congratulations George. You are bombing the hell out of one of the poorest > countries in the world whos only power is in the peoples nationalism that > you are now rallying against you. You think the food drops are helping? > Most people aren't eating them because they think they are poisoned. > > Do you really think you are doing damage by blowing up "terrorist training > camps" which are nothing more than a bunch of tents in the desert that can > be rebuilt anywhere? Seems your PR department is doing a good job of > convincing people this is effective though. How about the seizing of > funds? Might no be a good idea George because the money trail will lead > back to your associates. > > Hello, FBI terrorist hotline? I have a few people to > report that have helped or funded terrorists. Here Goes: Ronald Reagan, > George Bush Sr, George W. Bush, Orrin Hatch, Henry Kissinger, Bill > Clinton, etc, etc, etc. > > We can no longer call ourselves civilized. We are all barbarians where > chaos is only irrationality. > > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, sp00k@poe.org wrote: > > > > > Hey, just so I don't leave the wrong impression LOL ... > > > > I'm not one of these people who just want to bomb for > > the sake of bombing. > > > > I agree to some extent, with those who say we should > > seek alternative methods to deal with these terrorists. > > > > I have been thinking about that guy who set himself afire > > while setting fire to the U.S. Flag. > > > > (see my previous post "Funny Flag Burning") > > > > It is my proposal that we drop U.S. Flags, and matches > > on our enemies. The flags should be open like a sheet > > and the matches should be dropped as single books, so > > that we are sure we don't harm any "innocents" aka > > minimize "collateral damage" > > > > You people on active duty should pass this up the > > chain of command, AND I'd be haPPy to hEAR > > from those of you who are "pacifists" > > > > I know that burning the > > flag goes against everything we know, but our President > > has said this will be a new kind of war. We did arms > > for hostages, we can do flags and matches as long > > as we are HONEST with the American people about it. > > > > See ya at the BBQ partner... > > > > sp00k etc ... > > Http://Poe.Org > > Http://DigitalSter.Com > > ================================ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:10:24 -0400 From: "Brian Brantley" Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. LMAO!!!!! Hell yeah! Pull up a lawn chair, pop a bud, and watch the show!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sp00k@poe.org" To: "Angry-Psychos" Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 10:12 AM Subject: NPR A Peaceful Solution. Hey, just so I don't leave the wrong impression LOL ... I'm not one of these people who just want to bomb for the sake of bombing. I agree to some extent, with those who say we should seek alternative methods to deal with these terrorists. I have been thinking about that guy who set himself afire while setting fire to the U.S. Flag. (see my previous post "Funny Flag Burning") It is my proposal that we drop U.S. Flags, and matches on our enemies. The flags should be open like a sheet and the matches should be dropped as single books, so that we are sure we don't harm any "innocents" aka minimize "collateral damage" You people on active duty should pass this up the chain of command, AND I'd be haPPy to hEAR from those of you who are "pacifists" I know that burning the flag goes against everything we know, but our President has said this will be a new kind of war. We did arms for hostages, we can do flags and matches as long as we are HONEST with the American people about it. See ya at the BBQ partner... sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://DigitalSter.Com ================================ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:12:20 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "ndr" To: "sp00k@poe.org" Cc: "Angry-Psychos" Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 10:44 AM Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. > This would probably be a more effective solution than what we are doing. > Congratulations George. You are bombing the hell out of one of the poorest > countries in the world whos only power is in the peoples nationalism that > you are now rallying against you. Oh, don't get me wrong, bombing is GOOD, just because you are poor doesn't give you the right to kill without answering for it. I'm just looking for ways to hurry up the inevitable. If these people want to rush off to thier maker in ball of flames, I say send them the materials. By all accounts they are starting fire with rocks, I just wanna help. Peace :> burn baby burn. HA HA sucker sp00k etc ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 17:21:53 GMT+1 From: Thierry Pottier Subject: Re[1] NPR A Peaceful Solution. Ok, someone is not, and has never been, paying ENOUGH attention, it seems... First mistake: NEVER has any T.V. channel reported the REAL truth !!! Last mistake: NEVER has any government taken care of the REAL truth !!! Mistakes of that kind are big enough, we don't need any third, nor fourth, mistakes... Friendly, for ever... Thierry > -------Message d'origine------- > De : "John A. Bell" > Date : 09/10/2001 17:09:08 > > > Okay, someone isn't paying attention it seems. > > First mistake: As Bush has indicated repeatedly, and which the Afghan people > have confirmed as understood, we are not at war with Afghanistan. > > Second mistake: We are not rallying the country against us. The Afghan > people, both here and in Afghanistan, are largely supporting our efforts > against the terrorist regime that is holding their nation hostage. It is the > Taliban's fault the Afghan's are starving, not ours. > > Third mistake: Our food IS being eaten by the refugees. > > Fourth mistake: The terrorist camps are not tents, but small compounds that > contain training grounds, courses, etc. > > Before you criticize the plan, and the tactics, and the results, know what > they actually are before coming to your own conclusions. > > Thanks. > ______________________________________________________ Bonte aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:52:32 -0400 From: "John A. Bell" Subject: Re: Re[1] NPR A Peaceful Solution. Would you care to demonstrate for us THE REAL TRUTH, as you put it? The country's paranoia over "truth in reporting" is a bit overrated, already. Thanks for contributing and making it larger. Do you actually READ a newspaper, or ever WATCH the news? If so, why, if you don't believe any of it is true? If not, how do you know what they are saying, in order to claim it untrue? And so, if my points are untruthful, could you please clarify for us, from the front lines, what the truth is? I'd appreciate it, thanks. - -jb - ----- Original Message ----- From: Thierry Pottier To: John A. Bell ; ; ndr Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 1:21 PM Subject: Re[1] NPR A Peaceful Solution. > > Ok, someone is not, and has never been, paying ENOUGH > attention, it seems... > > First mistake: NEVER has any T.V. channel reported the REAL > truth !!! > Last mistake: NEVER has any government taken care of the > REAL truth !!! > > Mistakes of that kind are big enough, we don't need any > third, nor fourth, mistakes... > > Friendly, for ever... > Thierry > > > > -------Message d'origine------- > > De : "John A. Bell" > > Date : 09/10/2001 17:09:08 > > > > > > Okay, someone isn't paying attention it seems. > > > > First mistake: As Bush has indicated repeatedly, and > which the Afghan people > > have confirmed as understood, we are not at war with > Afghanistan. > > > > Second mistake: We are not rallying the country against > us. The Afghan > > people, both here and in Afghanistan, are largely > supporting our efforts > > against the terrorist regime that is holding their nation > hostage. It is the > > Taliban's fault the Afghan's are starving, not ours. > > > > Third mistake: Our food IS being eaten by the refugees. > > > > Fourth mistake: The terrorist camps are not tents, but > small compounds that > > contain training grounds, courses, etc. > > > > Before you criticize the plan, and the tactics, and the > results, know what > > they actually are before coming to your own conclusions. > > > > Thanks. > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Bonte aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:04:12 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 11:39 AM Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. > Can we move this off the Poe list? Well it is, don't you know the meaning of NPR? Maybe you should try over @ p-o-e.com I hear they censor over there. You have the right > to say whatever you want, but I would like to see more > posts related to Poe. For posts relating to POE, try the ones WITHOUT NPR in them. Not that I am not interested in > what is going on BUT THIS IS A POE LIST NOT A "BOMB > THE LIVING HELL OUTTA ALL THE FOREIGNERS LIST". For > that go subscribe to www.gopoundsoundinyourass.com or > something.... > > This message will self destruct in 10 seconds taking > all right wing war hawk assholes with it. Have a nice > day!! Wow now see how some of ya are? I hold out an olive branch and you beat the hell out of me with it. Only on the angry-psychos e-mail list will you find such destructive "pacifists"... I'm thinking of starting a side project to catalogue all the things I've been called since I have been on this list. LOL luv, peace, and smart bombs!!! Maybe next war we can get "Nice Bombs" smart & nice bombs... sp00k etc ... ================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:21:35 EDT From: Phaethonsmusic@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[1] NPR A Peaceful Solution. In a message dated 10/9/01 11:49:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jbell12 "What if half the things ever said turned out to be a lie, .... How will u know the truth? " if u were given all the answers wouldn't u start to wonder why?? How will u know the truth." Is it just me or does anybody else think how stupid this whole thing is, and to think it all comes down to religious beliefs as well. The " Real " truth my friends is what we carry in our hearts despite what anyone says, "buildings may fall, countrys may perish, hell the world can fall apart, but no matter what there will always be peace inside of my heart" Now lets talk about something we can really relate to and have fun with like Poe and her music, which is the reason we are all here, OK who else besides me feels like getting naked everytime they here wild and doing a crazy like monkey mating dance? peace n b wild!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:25:59 EDT From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com Subject: Navelsex... Hey! Can someone send me a link to the POE section?? Megan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 17:44:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. Nice Bombs do exist... I have seen them... they are painted pink and baby blue... JK/// p.s. hey sp00k - if NPR is not working for some - we can make NFPR =o) > LOL > > luv, peace, and smart bombs!!! Maybe next war > we can get "Nice Bombs" smart & nice bombs... > > sp00k etc ... > ================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:44:37 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sp00k@poe.org" To: "Angry-Psychos" Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 10:12 AM Subject: NPR A Peaceful Solution. > I have been thinking about that guy who set himself afire > while setting fire to the U.S. Flag. > > (see my previous post "Funny Flag Burning") > > ooooops! I did it again! I've been insensitive. I didn't mean to suggest that as a nation, all the people we would drop flags and matches on are as big of morons as the one who lit himself on fire. We can hope. No it's part of a bigger plan, a conspiracy... As you may know if you DO read the papers, the Chinese, our allies in this action, have been working overtime producing U.S. Flags!! What they are not reporting is the high combustion material that has been put to use, shhhhhhh! It's a secret...... This isn't about how many people we can get to torch themselves, either because of their beliefs or their stupidity, no it is much bigger than that. For years the American Flag has been a target, now we will employ reverse psychology, those who don't set them self on fire, will make a nicely illuminated target. It's my guess that no "innocents" would be around a burning American Flag, so no need for any special bombs here, just shoot where you see the burning flags. I hope this shows that I AM concerned for the "innocents" that I AM a sensitive kinda guy... I'm sure our military will employ it's own creative methods for getting that heat seeking missile up the right ass. smart boms, nice bombs, haPPy bombs, tickle me bombs, lil boo boo bombs, let me kiss it and make it better bombs... sp00k etc ... =========================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 12:00:44 -0500 From: "Brian M" Subject: Poe information in general... So let me get this straight, the only info that is going to be posted has to come from one person, which is not always privy to the necessary information when it is important to us? So, now we supposedly have a concert date THREE WEEKS from now and no way to plan for it on such short notice. Sorry folks, but if "I" ever become privy to pertinant Poe information, its going up on the board ASAP. Actually, I was privy to some info back for the "On The Bricks" concert, but I didn't want to get my friend fired for spilling it too early. Sorry, but it just seems like a lousy situation. I say if its Poe related, shout it out loud, even if its just speculation. We each feel a little proud for what we all have accomplished in the last year, I think we are entitled to any and all info that could help us, which in turn helps Poe. BrianM S.E.A.P. > >Well, the first concert date is three weeks from Saturday. I am trying to >honor Poe's wish and let our "point person" make the announcement. On this >list the only news I have seen relates to The Cure and Souxie and the >Banshee's and a months ago TV appearance. > >I posted a list of things that we as APs would like to know. If I missed >the >response, could one of you forward them to me? > >I wonder if the DVD shoot will be before, during or after the tour? The >first tour date is 24 days from now, I wonder when the dates or details >will >be released, or if we will hear them on the radio first? Maybe we will get >them before the 14 day airline ticket prices are no longer available... > >I have asked Angie for an update on what the deal is with Atlantic and >Wild, >are we still to push and what are the latest targets. Here is what she >said: > > > > > > >I will cc: this to Angie just in case she wants to share ANY information >about POE with us! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:00:03 -0700 (PDT) From: ndr Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, sp00k@poe.org wrote: > > This would probably be a more effective solution than what we are doing. > > Congratulations George. You are bombing the hell out of one of the poorest > > countries in the world whos only power is in the peoples nationalism that > > you are now rallying against you. > > > Oh, don't get me wrong, bombing is GOOD, just because > you are poor doesn't give you the right to kill without answering > for it. Point being most of these people have nothing to do with it. Yes, we are trying to put a new government into place for them, but we are supporting one that is worse than the Taliban. The funny thing is we didn't care as much about the Taliban until they became a convenient whipping boy. We actually gave them money for the war on drugs. > > I'm just looking for ways to hurry up the inevitable. If these > people want to rush off to thier maker in ball of flames, I say > send them the materials. By all accounts they are starting > fire with rocks, I just wanna help. I think the better solution would be napalm. > > Peace :> burn baby burn. HA HA sucker Burn Hollywood Burn. > > sp00k etc ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:49:04 -0700 (PDT) From: ndr Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. Shut up pansy. You some type of commie spy? You don't like bombing? Time for you to go to the Re-Education Camp. On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, joe a wrote: > Can we move this off the Poe list? You have the right > to say whatever you want, but I would like to see more > posts related to Poe. Not that I am not interested in > what is going on BUT THIS IS A POE LIST NOT A "BOMB > THE LIVING HELL OUTTA ALL THE FOREIGNERS LIST". For > that go subscribe to www.gopoundsoundinyourass.com or > something.... > > This message will self destruct in 10 seconds taking > all right wing war hawk assholes with it. Have a nice > day!! > --- "sp00k@poe.org" wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "ndr" > > To: "sp00k@poe.org" > > Cc: "Angry-Psychos" > > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 10:44 AM > > Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. > > > > > > > This would probably be a more effective solution > > than what we are doing. > > > Congratulations George. You are bombing the hell > > out of one of the poorest > > > countries in the world whos only power is in the > > peoples nationalism that > > > you are now rallying against you. > > > > > > Oh, don't get me wrong, bombing is GOOD, just > > because > > you are poor doesn't give you the right to kill > > without answering > > for it. > > > > I'm just looking for ways to hurry up the > > inevitable. If these > > people want to rush off to thier maker in ball of > > flames, I say > > send them the materials. By all accounts they are > > starting > > fire with rocks, I just wanna help. > > > > Peace :> burn baby burn. HA HA sucker > > > > sp00k etc ... > NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:47:21 -0700 (PDT) From: ndr Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, John A. Bell wrote: > Okay, someone isn't paying attention it seems. > > First mistake: As Bush has indicated repeatedly, and which the Afghan people > have confirmed as understood, we are not at war with Afghanistan. Massacre, war, police action, enduring freedom. Same difference. More people will die and more violence will follow. > > Second mistake: We are not rallying the country against us. The Afghan > people, both here and in Afghanistan, are largely supporting our efforts > against the terrorist regime that is holding their nation hostage. It is the > Taliban's fault the Afghan's are starving, not ours. > The people just want a stable government. Many much prefer the Taliban to the regime that they overthrew, who make up a large portion of the Northern Alliance. The previous government was responsible for more deaths than the Taliban. Men forced into wells and hand grenades dropped in. Cities under seige and killing everybody in it. The Northern Alliance cares less about the people than the Taliban does. They just want power. We have elevated them to the level of courageous rebels fighting the oppresion of the Taliban. We claim they are the lesser of 2 evils though I dont' buy it. Let us not forgot that we were funding the Taliban to help in the war on drugs. Let us not forget how many terrorist regimes we put into power. > Third mistake: Our food IS being eaten by the refugees. Are we talking refugees or people in Afghanistan? Refugees yeah. But I am talking about the people within Afghanistan who are living thru another war, many of which have no idea why they are being bombed. A large portion have heard about the WTC, but most have no clue as to what is going on. All they know is that their home is being attacked. > > Fourth mistake: The terrorist camps are not tents, but small compounds that > contain training grounds, courses, etc. Most are tent cities. Some are small buildings. But the important point is the fact that they are mobile. They are made to be easily moved. The important aspect of these camps is information. You can't control information with bombs. The bombs are just to satisfy American bloodlust. > > Before you criticize the plan, and the tactics, and the results, know what > they actually are before coming to your own conclusions. > ALready covered that part. Try it yourself sometime. > Thanks. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ndr > To: sp00k@poe.org > Cc: Angry-Psychos > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 10:44 AM > Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. > > > > > > This would probably be a more effective solution than what we are doing. > > Congratulations George. You are bombing the hell out of one of the poorest > > countries in the world whos only power is in the peoples nationalism that > > you are now rallying against you. You think the food drops are helping? > > Most people aren't eating them because they think they are poisoned. > > > > Do you really think you are doing damage by blowing up "terrorist training > > camps" which are nothing more than a bunch of tents in the desert that can > > be rebuilt anywhere? Seems your PR department is doing a good job of > > convincing people this is effective though. How about the seizing of > > funds? Might no be a good idea George because the money trail will lead > > back to your associates. > > > > Hello, FBI terrorist hotline? I have a few people to > > report that have helped or funded terrorists. Here Goes: Ronald Reagan, > > George Bush Sr, George W. Bush, Orrin Hatch, Henry Kissinger, Bill > > Clinton, etc, etc, etc. > > > > We can no longer call ourselves civilized. We are all barbarians where > > chaos is only irrationality. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, sp00k@poe.org wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey, just so I don't leave the wrong impression LOL ... > > > > > > I'm not one of these people who just want to bomb for > > > the sake of bombing. > > > > > > I agree to some extent, with those who say we should > > > seek alternative methods to deal with these terrorists. > > > > > > I have been thinking about that guy who set himself afire > > > while setting fire to the U.S. Flag. > > > > > > (see my previous post "Funny Flag Burning") > > > > > > It is my proposal that we drop U.S. Flags, and matches > > > on our enemies. The flags should be open like a sheet > > > and the matches should be dropped as single books, so > > > that we are sure we don't harm any "innocents" aka > > > minimize "collateral damage" > > > > > > You people on active duty should pass this up the > > > chain of command, AND I'd be haPPy to hEAR > > > from those of you who are "pacifists" > > > > > > I know that burning the > > > flag goes against everything we know, but our President > > > has said this will be a new kind of war. We did arms > > > for hostages, we can do flags and matches as long > > > as we are HONEST with the American people about it. > > > > > > See ya at the BBQ partner... > > > > > > sp00k etc ... > > > Http://Poe.Org > > > Http://DigitalSter.Com > > > ================================ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 13:02:06 -0400 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: RE: Wild Radio Edit/Mix http://poe.navelsex.com/POE/Poe_-_Wild/ - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of XWhenIGrowUpX@aol.com Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 9:41 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Wild Radio Edit/Mix are they still on the navelsex site? i can't find them anywhere... just wondering what might've happened to them. maybe i'm just not looking hard enough. little help??? - -reg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:01:36 -0700 (PDT) From: ndr Subject: Re: NPR A Peaceful Solution. Aren't they named SnuggleBunny and Foo-FooFluffy? On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Cyberfan Corporation wrote: > > Nice Bombs do exist... > > > I have seen them... they are painted pink and baby blue... > > > > JK/// > > p.s. hey sp00k - if NPR is not working for some - we can make NFPR > > =o) > > > > > LOL > > > > luv, peace, and smart bombs!!! Maybe next war > > we can get "Nice Bombs" smart & nice bombs... > > > > sp00k etc ... > > ================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:44:58 -0400 From: "Brian Brantley" Subject: NPR A clear head...... I just wanted to take a minute to speak my mind. If you are not interested, hit delete now. I find it depressing to hear all this talk about how our country is wrong in taking this action. Like Bill Maher sayin that the American Military was "cowardly" in launching cruise missles against Afganistan. I know what he meant and I have heard his appologies but I was still infuriated. I am seeing the same sediment that began in the begining of Vietnam. At first, everyone was against what the "government" was doing. By the end of the war, our vets coudn't even where thier uniforms for fear of being attacked and spit on. If you want to make change in our government, fine. Become a polititian. No government is innocent. Governing a group of people means making difficult decisions with little or no information. A good leader makes a decision based on the information he has to futher the good of his people. People aren't perfect. Some have their own agendas. It is this way with all governments. Leadership is compromise. Everyone will NEVER be happy. You just have to steer the course and stand by it. Just remember that the liberties you have are not shared by ALL people. Do you think that ANYONE in Afganistan could say the things you are saying and expect to live? Maybe the Northern alliance is no better than the Taliban. Should we allow them to stay in power knowing that they support Bin Ladin and all he stands for? It's about compromise. Maybe we will be fighting the Norhtern Alliance in ten years. Who else can we support to take over? My platoon rigs the loads that they are air-droping now. I expect to be called up if this continues much longer. Will you support me if I go? Or will you spit on me when I return. My father remembers what that was like. Would you like to talk to him? The freedom you don't understand or appreciate was won by him and his buddies and THOUSANDS like him. Maybe more will have to pay the price for your freedom. I just hope you appreciate the sacrafices that have been made so that you can say this government sucks. Maybe you should travel a bit. See the world outside of that tube that spits out lies as you say. Truth.........what is the truth???? Truth is you HAVE NO IDEA!!!! When you have traveled, when you have seen first hand, when you find a better place to live, come back and share with us. Share with us THE TRUTH. Till then, watch. Watch as firemen dig their friends out of the rubble. Watch as American Servicemen and women do their best to make sure this never happens again. They may not be successful, BUT AT LEAST THEY ARE TRYING. What are you doing??? These are my thoughts. Flame away. Just don't spit on me. Brian ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #449 ***********************************