From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #419 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Friday, September 21 2001 Volume 06 : Number 419 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPR: For you kooky Tori Amos fans... [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR: article by Afghan born American.. ["Brian Brantley" ] NPR-Hate Crime-NPR ["Bad Bender" ] Fw: TIME TO KICK SOME Butt!! ["Bad Bender" ] NPR: thoughts right now [tearinhand ] NPR: commercial song [Iamtheher4u@aol.com] Re: NPR: commercial song [EMOKidsSmell@aol.com] LA DVD/Video Shoot? [Onagh Levy ] PSA - trading boots from MP3s is *bad* [VR5SBloom@aol.com] Poe lyrics site ["Bich Ngoc Cao" ] NPR "Sweet Bird of Truth" ["sp00k@poe.org" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:40:56 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: For you kooky Tori Amos fans... In a message dated 9/20/2001 10:28:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, commissioner_jobe@yahoo.com writes: > ---If you're anywhere near a tv, she is going to > perform on Regis this morning. Just thought some of > you would want to know. I've got to go to work now, > later. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > She was great on Letterman. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:46:43 -0400 From: "Brian Brantley" Subject: Re: NPR: article by Afghan born American.. I 100% AGREE!!!!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel" To: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:21 PM Subject: RE: NPR: article by Afghan born American.. Let me relate to everybody a little story. There was a huge Kingdom that practiced an evil called slavery. They put women and children to work along with the men and beat and killed them if the taskmasters weren't 100% happy. Well a very powerful and good nation saw the evil that was being caused and threatened retribution unless they stopped the evil. They tried stopping imports and exports, damaging the economy, and biological warfare. Yet this still did not stop the evil that the terrible nation was practicing. FInally, the good nation dispensed a poison that killed the children of the evil-doers. THis final straw caused the evil to stop. Many of you know this story as Moses and the ten plagues. But it has happened. When the Palestinian leaders were in Jordan, practicing their sickening evil, King Hussein killed 50,000 and it was stopped. Though I am agnostic, and don't support war or violence, I have learned something from the story of passover and the 10th plague of Egypt. It is the UTMOST IMPORTANCE that evil be stopped. WHen everything else has been tried, when peace talks fail, sometimes the death of innocence is absolutely necessary. War is Hell and it sucks, but if 1000 innocent Germans died in order to save 1000000 good people (and I don't only mean Jews), then it is worth it. If evil can be stopped and we can make sure that something like this never happens again, then it is worth the innocence. It is a terrible lesson in life, but it must be learned. WHen we lose all morality and accept everything as equal (as those sick fucks in the media and liberal left do, as they constantly support the terrorist countries), then evil goes on and flourishes. And remember my friends, it is JUST AS EVIl for a good person to not speak out as it is for evil to occur. I am not religous at all, but we can all learn a valuabal lesson from this bible story. ALways, Joel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 15:01:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Richardson Subject: RE: NPR: article by Afghan born American.. Ok Joel I need some clarification of your analogy. Just which specific "good" nation are we talking about here? Your version of this story would lead one to believe that there was an organized nation powerful enough to level economic sanctions on Egypt. My history may be a bit fuzzy here but there wasn't a nation powerful enough to leverage Egypt into doing anything they didn't feel like doing. As to slavery, Egypt didn't enslave just anyone. They enslaved virtually the entire nation of Israel. Furthermore, the Israelites didn't poison the children of their captors. That was the final action of a vengeful deity brought down upon the nation oppressing that deitys followers. But all of the liberties you took with this story aren't nearly as disquieting as the conclusion you arrived at. Its ok if the evil is big enough to slaughter the innocent to stop that evil. Who decides how much evil is enough evil? If someone placed 300 toddlers at your feet and gave you a hammer and guaranteed that if you snuffed out each and every innocent life terrorists would never again claim another soul could you do it? I couldn't. -Alex - --- Joel wrote: > > Let me relate to everybody a little story. There was > a huge Kingdom that practiced an evil called > slavery. They put women and children to work along > with the men and beat and killed them if the > taskmasters weren't 100% happy. Well a very powerful > and good nation saw the evil that was being caused > and threatened retribution unless they stopped the > evil. They tried stopping imports and exports, > damaging the economy, and biological warfare. Yet > this still did not stop the evil that the terrible > nation was practicing. FInally, the good nation > dispensed a poison that killed the children of the > evil-doers. THis final straw caused the evil to > stop. > Many of you know this story as Moses and the ten > plagues. But it has happened. When the Palestinian > leaders were in Jordan, practicing their sickening > evil, King Hussein killed 50,000 and it was stopped. > > Though I am agnostic, and don't support war or > violence, I have learned something from the story of > passover and the 10th plague of Egypt. It is the > UTMOST IMPORTANCE that evil be stopped. WHen > everything else has been tried, when peace talks > fail, sometimes the death of innocence is absolutely > necessary. War is Hell and it sucks, but if 1000 > innocent Germans died in order to save 1000000 good > people (and I don't only mean Jews), then it is > worth it. If evil can be stopped and we can make > sure that something like this never happens again, > then it is worth the innocence. It is a terrible > lesson in life, but it must be learned. WHen we lose > all morality and accept everything as equal (as > those sick fucks in the media and liberal left do, > as they constantly support the terrorist countries), > then evil goes on and flourishes. And remember my > friends, it is JUST AS EVIl for a good person to not > speak out as it is for evil to occur. > I am not religous at all, but we can all learn a > valuabal lesson from this bible story. > ALways, > Joel __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:52:29 -0400 From: "Kristen Kirkland" Subject: NPR- An interesting article - "We'll go forward from this moment..." This moved me, so I thought I might pass it along. To any of you who may have lost someone in this terrible tragedy, please know that my thoughts are with you and your family. To be here in New York City right now is sad, but to see the combined efforts of so many evokes this sense of patriotism I wasn't aware I had. There is a fire station two blocks from my apartment with the uniforms of the men they lost hanging outside. I can't even walk by there without welling up with tears. You feel like you should hug every fireman and policeman in this city for job they are willing to do. Well, before I get too upset... "We'll go forward from this moment"...by Leonard Pitts Jr. of the Miami Herald It's my job to have something to say. They pay me to provide words that help make sense of that which troubles the American soul. But in this moment of airless shock when hot tears sting disbelieving eyes, the only thing I can find to say, the only words that seem to fit, must be addressed to the unknown author of this suffering. You monster. You beast. You unspeakable bastard. What lesson did you hope to teach us by your coward's attack on our World Trade Center, our Pentagon, us? What was it you hoped we would learn? Whatever it was, please know that you failed. Did you want us to respect your cause? You just damned your cause. Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our resolve. Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us together. Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and quarrelsome family, a family rent by racial, social, political and class division, but a family nonetheless. We're frivolous, yes, capable of expending tremendous emotional energy on pop cultural minutiae -- a singer's revealing dress, a ball team's misfortune, a cartoon mouse. We're wealthy, too, spoiled by the ready availability of trinkets and material goods, and maybe because of that, we walk through life with a certain sense of blithe entitlement. We are fundamentally decent, though -- peace-loving and compassionate. We struggle to know the right thing and to do it. And we are, the overwhelming majority of us, people of faith, believers in a just and loving God. Some people -- you, perhaps -- think that any or all of this makes us weak. You're mistaken. We are not weak. Indeed, we are strong in ways that cannot be measured by arsenals. IN PAIN Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning and we are in shock. We're still grappling with the unreality of the awful thing you did, still working to make ourselves understand that this isn't a special effect from some Hollywood blockbuster, isn't the plot development from a Tom Clancy novel. Both in terms of the awful scope of their ambition and the probable final death toll, your attacks are likely to go down as the worst acts of terrorism in the history of the United States and, probably, the history of the world. You've bloodied us as we have never been bloodied before. But there's a gulf of difference between making us bloody and making us fall. This is the lesson Japan was taught to its bitter sorrow the last time anyone hit us this hard, the last time anyone brought us such abrupt and monumental pain. When roused, we are righteous in our outrage, terrible in our force. When provoked by this level of barbarism, we will bear any suffering, pay any cost, go to any length, in the pursuit of justice. I tell you this without fear of contradiction. I know my people, as you, I think, do not. What I know reassures me. It also causes me to tremble with dread of the future. In the days to come, there will be recrimination and accusation, fingers pointing to determine whose failure allowed this to happen and what can be done to prevent it from happening again. There will be heightened security, misguided talk of revoking basic freedoms. We'll go forward from this moment sobered, chastened, sad. But determined, too. Unimaginably determined. THE STEEL IN US You see, the steel in us is not always readily apparent. That aspect of our character is seldom understood by people who don't know us well. On this day, the family's bickering is put on hold. As Americans we will weep, as Americans we will mourn, and as Americans, we will rise in defense of all that we cherish. So I ask again: What was it you hoped to teach us? It occurs to me that maybe you just wanted us to know the depths of your hatred. If that's the case, consider the message received. And take this message in exchange: You don't know my people. You don't know what we're capable of. You don't know what you just started. But you're about to learn. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:29:53 -0400 From: "Tiffany Berg" Subject: Re: College Poe tour info i didn't know there was another bu student here! coo! Tiffany Berg General Manager WBUQ 91.1 The Revolution Bloomsburg University ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ AOL Screen name: Si1verf1y ICQ #: 23280966 Yahoo Messenger: Si1verf1y " ": Si1verfly ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >From: Leigh Wetterau >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: College Poe tour info >Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:55:22 -0700 (PDT) > > >Hi, could who ever posted, how to get incontact with >people who are incharge of Poe's booking, could you >please repost that info? > >I'd love to get Poe here, and the people who are >incharge of booking smaller bands said for me to send >them the info! but I lost it!! > >thankyoU!!!! > > >Leigh > >Bloomsburg University > >__________________________________________________ >Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? >Donate cash, emergency relief information >http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:54:04 -0500 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: NPR-Hate Crime-NPR I've heard much of talk from people that seem to not want the US to respond to the attack on us, makes me wonder where their loyalties lie, but that's a different topic. Anyhow, has any one considered the idea that this is the largest "Hate Crime" the U.S. has faced? Has anyone considered the idea that Shandra Levy had a hand in this? She did disappear underground right before this happened......................hey, we have to explore all options. "If your too open minded your brains will fall out". ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:16:13 -0500 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: Fw: TIME TO KICK SOME Butt!! "If your too open minded your brains will fall out". Subject: TIME TO KICK SOME Butt!! [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of eagle3.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:05:30 -0700 (PDT) From: tearinhand Subject: NPR: thoughts right now hehe I really hate posting NPR stuff but I don't have anything Poe to talk about. I watched the address to the nation thing tonight.. thats a very big deal since i hate television. I understand with everything that happened what is to come. The thing I'm having the problem trying to deal with is going back to somewhat normal life. I was gonna move to New York City in less than 2 years. I don't want to go anymore. I want to live.. I've not even begun my life yet and the fear of it being cut short by crazy terriorist just scares me so much. ok I'm just rambling blah I don't know why i'm writing this.. I guess because this ordeal makes me feel so young and innocent and small.. I don't know whats going on whats going to happen or anything and that scares me the most. Sara ===== "give me peace, love, and a hard cock." ~Tori Amos "Wait, I thought I had this down I built all my cages and my hide out I covered all my bases but you you creep in like a whisper I try not to listen but I hear you I don't know just what it is you do but do it again" ~Poe, Amazed http://www.crosswinds.net/~tearinhand99/entry.html ~A Girl and Her Piano~ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:12:45 EDT From: Iamtheher4u@aol.com Subject: NPR: commercial song OK, I've got another commercial question. There's this commercial on MTV, I haven't seen it in a really long time, but I remember that I really liked the song. It has this guy singing... yeah... I don't remember the lyrics... but I think the commercial was for depression or something, I know there was a black screen at the end with a toll free number... a depression hot line, maybe? I dunno, so let me know if any of you guys know who this is. Tessa "And now I leave you to your... em..." "Moosey fate! Say moosey fate!" "Your moosey fate." "Yeah!!! Hehehehehehehehe!" --Invader Zim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:36:36 EDT From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: commercial song I know which one you're talking about the "Nostigma.org" one???? Yeah, who sings that song? It's really depressing....you'd think they'd play happier songs for mental illness commercials. It's probably a scottish band. I know it starts with "have you ever blah blah blah blah..." Meg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:38:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Onagh Levy Subject: LA DVD/Video Shoot? Is this still on? I haven't heard any news. I'd still love to go. Thanks Onagh ===== ********************************************************** YLEO Dist# 405211 http://www.living-magic.com http://members.nbci.com/Onagh33 ********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:12:36 EDT From: VR5SBloom@aol.com Subject: PSA - trading boots from MP3s is *bad* Hello hello, I have just gotten from a non-AP an audio CDR of the Cleveland shows Poe did this year, which were taped by Brad on cassette. He recorded them to MP3s and then uploaded them to navelsex. I haven't asked who he got the CDs from yet, and it may not necessarily be someone from this list, but this PSA is for everyone's benefit. Now while it is perfectly fine to burn an audio CD for yourself from MP3s, trading them is a biiiiiig no-no. When you make an MP3 you lose some audio data from the original recording. Most times you can't tell, but with this bootleg it is very apparent. Also the way Brad broke up his recordings caused little annoying gaps/glitches in between each track. If you still want to trade these Cleveland shows, I would be happy to make audio CDs from the non-MP3 sourced cassette Brad sent me. I am willing to do this for free (uploading wavs to navelsex) or B&Ps to keep an MP3-sourced bootleg out of the trading pool. I don't want the Poe bootleg community to be known for bad quality, and I'm thinking Poe wouldn't either, as she has asked to be able to approve any new live tape trees we would want to do. And of course...please don't share the navelsex URL outside of the list. Fortunately I have not seen this in quite a while. ::) - --Michele http://www.shellE.org/ Home of PsYcHovixen, Poe documents (including the Poe discography), Garbage and Poe trading, eXej, 12 Rounds, Mono, and Exploration Z: A Haunted House Of Leaves Alternate Universe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:19:32 -0700 From: "Bich Ngoc Cao" Subject: Poe lyrics site This is a message regarding the Poe Lyrics site http://snafucholericmint.homestead.com/poelyrics.html I don't know if the site owner is aware of this fact, but it is going to be taken down by Homestead soon. I just got this pop-up when I visited it: "After September 30th, the pages, content, and functionality of this Web site will be restricted. Visitors may also be blocked from viewing this site. To prevent these limitations, the owner of this site must upgrade to the Homestead Personal Service. There are 10 days remaining before this site will be restricted." Anyway, I just wanted to email this to the list and to the owner of the site, to make sure it's archived or something. - --------------------- Bich Ngoc Cao ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:57:40 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: NPR "Sweet Bird of Truth" FYI: sweet bird of truth the The, 1986 6 o'clock in the morning and I'm the last person in this plane still awake. Y'know I can almost smell the blood washing against the shores of this land that can't forget its past. Oh the wind that carries this plane is the wind of change, heaven sent, and hell bent. Over the mountain tops we go, just like all the other G.I. Joes Ee-ai-ee-ai Adios! This is your captain calling - with an urgent warning We're above the Gulf of Arabia - our altitude is falling And I can't keep her up - there's no time for thinking All hands on deck - this bird is sinking Across the beaches & cranes, rivers & trains, all the money I've made - bodies I've maimed. Time was, when I seemed to know, just like any other G.I. Joe Should I cry like a baby or die like a man While all the planet's little wars start joining hands, Oh what a heaven - what a hell - Y'know there's nothing can be done in the whole wide world I don't know what's wrong or right. I'm just a regular guy, with bottled-up insides. I ain't never been to church, or believed in Jesus Christ - But I'm praying that God's with you, when you die. http://www.frontiernet.net/~domonroe/sweetbird.zip sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://DigitalSter.Com ================================ ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #419 ***********************************