From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #413 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, September 17 2001 Volume 06 : Number 413 Today's Subjects: ----------------- http://www.p-o-e.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001123.html [angie ] Really cool Poe item on ebay [Miki Proud ] Re: NPR-Palestinian children holding flowers ["sp00k@poe.org" ] NPR: Consequesnces of Bombing Afghanistan [Onagh Levy ] NPR: The Clear Enemy [Onagh Levy ] NPR: 3 Days to Turn over bin Laden [Onagh Levy ] NPR: Not just American Victims in WTC Attack [Onagh Levy ] NPR:Alice Cooper [JewlyaINAP@aol.com] Everyone Related-SAVE THIS E-MAIL [angie ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 01:30:21 -0400 From: angie Subject: http://www.p-o-e.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001123.html http://www.p-o-e.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001123.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 01:53:39 -0400 From: angie Subject: NPR-Palestinian children holding flowers http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20010914/wl/1000518450israel_palestinians_us_attacks_reax_jrl109.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:41:08 +0200 From: Jorrit Harssema Subject: Re: Introduction Hoi, Welko, eindelijk weer een Nederlander!! (I'll continue in English now) > Anyway, I'm Rik, 22, from the Netherlands and I first heard Poe after I > downloaded a MP3 of Lemon Meringue off IRC. I actually downloaded the whole > Haunted album and was immediately hooked. I don't think any other album in the > past 22 years has had a similar impact on me. And some people still say that downloading music is a bad thing :) > I went out to get the album from a local record store only to find out that > Poe's cd's aren't released here, so I got some friends in the US to send me > both Hello and Haunted. Hello was released here, but I don't think it's avaialble anymore. I bought it in Enschede a couple of years ago. Haunted is not (yet) released in the Netherlands. Most web-stores have it though, but I think this is the imported version. I have checked with some "real" record stores, and they could give me no information on an official release date. > http://www.hagen.let.rug.nl/~s1003917/ Is that in Groningen?? If so, we cover the major part of the Netherlands. I'm in Eindhoven :) Jorrit ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Miki Proud Subject: Really cool Poe item on ebay Whattup fellow psychos. I was surfing ebay, and I came across the most amazing item. It's the gold record package for Hello. It's ridiculously expensive, and I doubt any of us can afford it, but I enjoyed drooling over it, so I though some of you might to. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1464757868 ===== I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... He's a merman...he doesn't need a voice And right there for a minute, I knew you so well . __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:28:23 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: NPR-Palestinian children holding flowers - ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 1:53 AM Subject: NPR-Palestinian children holding flowers > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20010914/wl/1000518450israel_palestinians_ us_attacks_reax_jrl109.html > The World "holding flowers" http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news_photos?n=20&p=memorial+service sp00k etc ... ================================================================ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:27:51 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Introduction In a message dated 9/16/2001 4:23:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jorrit@poe.org writes: > > http://www.hagen.let.rug.nl/~s1003917/ > Is that in Groningen?? If so, we cover the major part of the > Netherlands. I'm in Eindhoven :) > > Jorrit > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hah...we have enough APs in the Netherlands now to have an official DAPs > chapter:-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:23:15 -0700 (PDT) From: John H Subject: NPR Know the Enemy! Know the enemy: The enemy is at the gate. And the enemy is the human mind itself - or lack of it - on this planet. - General Boy ===== Unmoderater, Universal Angry Psychos (AllPsychos) __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:05:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Onagh Levy Subject: NPR: Consequesnces of Bombing Afghanistan Hello APs- This is from another list that I'm on. The list is called DeerTypeChihuahuas and it's at Smartgroups.com. The list members are primarily women all owners of the Deer type, or Reigndeer, or Fawn-tpe Chihuahua dogs. I found this fascinating. Cheers Onagh ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Dear friends, In the interest of keeping open minds at a time when they are so inclined to want to close, I offer the following thoughtful message. I picked it up at , of all places, Recycled Rovers. Julie Tamim is an Afghani-American writer. He is also one of the most brilliant people I know in this life. When he writes, I read. When he talks, I listen. Here is his take on Afghanistan and the whole mess we are in. Gary T. Dear Gary and whoever else is on this email thread: I've been hearing a lot of talk about "bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone Age." Ronn Owens, on KGO Talk Radio today, allowed that this would mean killing innocent people, people who had nothing to do with this atrocity, but "we're at war, we have to accept collateral damage. What else can we do?" Minutes later I heard some TV pundit discussing whether we "have the belly to do what must be done." And I thought about the issues being raised especially hard because I am from Afghanistan, and even though I've lived here for 35 years I've never lost track of what's going on there. So I want to tell anyone who will listen how it all looks from where I'm standing. I speak as one who hates the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. There is no doubt in my mind that these people were responsible for the atrocity in New York. I agree that something must be done about those monsters. But the Taliban and Ben Laden are not Afghanistan. They're not even the government of Afghanistan. The Taliban are a cult of ignorant psychotics who took over Afghanistan in 1997. Bin Laden is a political criminal with a plan. When you think Taliban, think Nazis. When you think Bin Laden, think Hitler. And when you think "the people of Afghanistan" think "the Jews in the concentration camps." It's not only that the Afghan people had nothing to do with this atrocity. They were the first victims of the perpetrators. They would exult if someone would come in there, take out the Taliban and clear out the rats nest of international thugs holed up in their country. Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow the Taliban? The answer is, they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering. A few years ago, the United Nations estimated that there are 500,000 disabled orphans in Afghanistan--a country with no economy, no food.There are millions of widows. And the Taliban has been burying these widows alive in mass graves. The soil is littered with land mines, the farms were all destroyed by the Soviets. These are a few of the reasons why the Afghan people have not overthrown the Taliban. We come now to the question of bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone Age. Trouble is, that's been done. The Soviets took care of it already. Make the Afghans suffer? They're already suffering. Level their houses? Done. Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done. Eradicate their hospitals? Done. Destroy their infrastructure? Cut them off from medicine and health care? Too late. Someone already did all that. New bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs. Would they at least get the Taliban? Not likely. In today's Afghanistan, only the Taliban eat, only they have the means to move around. They'd slip away and hide. Maybe the bombs would get some of those disabled orphans, they don't move too fast, they don't even have wheelchairs. But flying over Kabul and dropping bombs wouldn't really be a strike against the criminals who did this horrific thing. Actually it would only be making common cause with the Taliban--by raping once again the people they've been raping all this time So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me now speak with true fear and trembling. The only way to get Bin Laden is to go in there with ground troops. When people speak of "having the belly to do what needs to be done" they're thinking in terms of having the belly to kill as many as needed. Having the belly to overcome any moral qualms about killing innocent people. Let's pull our heads out of the sand. What's actually on the table is Americans dying. And not just because some Americans would die fighting their way through Afghanistan to Bin Laden's hideout. It's much bigger than that folks. Because to get any troops to Afghanistan, we'd have to go through Pakistan. Would they let us? Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan would have to be first. Will other Muslim nations just stand by? You see where I'm going. We're flirting with a world war between Islam and the West. And guess what: that's Bin Laden's program. That's exactly what he wants. That's why he did this. Read his speeches and statements. It's all right there. He really believes Islam would beat the west. It might seem ridiculous, but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and the West, he's got a billion soldiers. If the west wreaks a holocaust in those lands, that's a billion people with nothing left to lose, that's even better from Bin Laden's point of view. He's probably wrong, in the end the west would win, whatever that would mean, but the war would last for years and millions would die, not just theirs but ours. Who has the belly for that? Bin Laden does. Anyone else? Tamim Ansary ===== ********************************************************** YLEO Dist# 405211 http://www.living-magic.com http://members.nbci.com/Onagh33 ********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:28:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Onagh Levy Subject: NPR: The Clear Enemy News from Canada: http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Story/20010916-004/page.asp ===== ********************************************************** YLEO Dist# 405211 http://www.living-magic.com http://members.nbci.com/Onagh33 ********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:33:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Onagh Levy Subject: NPR: 3 Days to Turn over bin Laden CTV News, from Canada: http://www.ctvnews.com/content/sitesections/1/808893.asp ===== ********************************************************** YLEO Dist# 405211 http://www.living-magic.com http://members.nbci.com/Onagh33 ********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:43:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Onagh Levy Subject: NPR: Not just American Victims in WTC Attack http://www.ctvnews.com/content/sitesections/1/808933.asp ===== ********************************************************** YLEO Dist# 405211 http://www.living-magic.com http://members.nbci.com/Onagh33 ********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:13:33 EDT From: InAReverie666@aol.com Subject: Introduction #3 (1) Who you are? Whitney (2) Where you're from? Philadelphia (3) How old you are? 15 (4) Where you first heard Poe? on 120 minutes a looong time ago. I believe it was Angry Johnny. (5) What other musicians do you listen to? Lacuna Coil, Tori Amos, Snake River Conspiracy, My Ruin, Jack Off Jill, Hole, Fluffy, Harlow, Nirvana, Tool, A perfect circle, Depeche Mode, Drain sth, Queens of the Stone Age, The Gathering, Aic, Jerry Cantrell, Pj Harvey, Sugarcoma, Therion, Opeth, Nevermore, yada yada yada (6) Any other interesting information you wish to share. I used to be strangldlovesong@aol.com but that account got deleted and I have no idea what's going on in the list ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:46:00 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: Consequesnces of Bombing Afghanistan > So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me > now speak with true fear and trembling. The only way > to get Bin Laden is to go in there with ground troops. It is World War on terrorism, it's no surprise that we will be landing ground troops. AND Pakistan said we are more than welcome to launch ground troops from it's land, as well as aircraft. This is not a revenge campaign against Afghanistan, the stated goal is to wage war on terrorism, on EVERY nation where it exists. AND almost EVERY nation on the face of the earth is SQUARELY behind the U.S.A. in it's stated goals. As far as killing innocent civilians is concerned, if you have been following the news you may know that the President authorized our military to shoot down that last plane that ended up crashing in PA. NOT that we did, but if it had continued towards Washington, it would be shot down. We are willing to take out 100 of our OWN people to save 1,000 is what was said. We should have a greater concern for those in other nations? We already do have concern for civilians, but they may not be used as shields by cowards. We have seen terrible, and next we will see horrible, will it be terror in the U.S. or the loss of life on foreign soil, or all and more? there is no turning back. I don't want to sound alarmist, but if you watched the news today, you must have seen a bunch of high ranking officials state that the possibility of further terrorist strikes within U.S.soil in the near future is strong. WAKE UP! I can't believe how many people think this is like the space shuttle disaster, they are tired of the replays, they want their regular TV programming back, they want sports back. This is an ONGOING event, it isn't over just because we are tired of the replays. It will be some time before we know enough to make a true assessment of what types of internal threats we still face. I advise giving it some time before congregating in heavily populated public places for anything other than necessity. sp00k etc ... ====================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:56:52 EDT From: Pokiepupie@aol.com Subject: (no subject) In a message dated 9/16/2001 7:45:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Majordomo@smoe.org writes: << a. Now that you are an Angry Psycho, we would love to know: (1) Who you are?, (2) Where you're from?, (3) How old you are?, (4) Where you first heard Poe?, (5) What other musicians do you listen to? and (6) Any other interesting information you wish to share. my name is Jess, and i first heard p(*)e on the radio(hey pretty) and i thought that was a sound i'd love to checck out,so i went out and bought her cd, haunted, which i absolutley love(well duh) and i'm actually listening to it right now, and my fave song is virgin. i am 17, and i hope to one day get a record deal of my own, but i am kinda a wierdo, cuz i really want to be a country singer, but i am an alt chick if that makes sence @ all . i'm from NH, and my other fav bands are fuel, linkin park, and powerman 5000. but as well i like toby keith, and jamie o'neal,( that would be the country chick talking) so that about sums it up. but if u must email me back do it @ josiechick@ivillage.com k' later jess ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:40:29 -0400 From: "Stephanie Lannon" Subject: Re: (no subject) Hey where in NH are you from?I'm from NH too. ~Stephanie~(The Sugar Queen) >From: Pokiepupie@aol.com >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: (no subject) >Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:56:52 EDT > > >In a message dated 9/16/2001 7:45:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >Majordomo@smoe.org writes: > ><< a. Now that you are an Angry Psycho, we would love to know: > (1) Who you are?, > (2) Where you're from?, > (3) How old you are?, > (4) Where you first heard Poe?, > (5) What other musicians do you listen to? and > (6) Any other interesting information you wish to share. > >my name is Jess, and i first heard p(*)e on the radio(hey pretty) and i >thought that was a sound i'd love to checck out,so i went out and bought >her >cd, haunted, which i absolutley love(well duh) and i'm actually listening >to >it right now, and my fave song is virgin. >i am 17, and i hope to one day get a record deal of my own, but i am kinda >a >wierdo, cuz i really want to be a country singer, but i am an alt chick if >that makes sence @ all . >i'm from NH, and my other fav bands are fuel, linkin park, and powerman >5000. but as well i like toby keith, and jamie o'neal,( that would be the >country chick talking) >so that about sums it up. >but if u must email me back do it @ josiechick@ivillage.com k' >later >jess _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:48:54 EDT From: JewlyaINAP@aol.com Subject: NPR:Alice Cooper Residence Inn hotels has the best freaking commercial. Alice Cooper comes up to a man, who is watering his garden and starts inquiring when was his last vacation, last quality time with the family....Tells him he should spend more time with the kids ect...if he wants them to grow up normal, even puts his hand on the man's shoulder for emphasis..... ALL WHILE IN CLASSIC ALICE GEAR AND MAKEUP!!! G-d it was beautiful..I just sat, stared and laughed my ass off. Then I thought I would share this little bit of joy in this currently tormenting time.... Watch the commericial if you see it..and keep in mind, there is no guilt in smiling:). G-d Bless America, Sharmel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:16:19 -0400 From: angie Subject: Everyone Related-SAVE THIS E-MAIL (Food donation website at bottom. Please just read each service, so that you may direct someone who asks. Some of your own friends may not have ever shared with you that they have family in New York-you never know when they might call you.) 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