From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #407 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Thursday, September 13 2001 Volume 06 : Number 407 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Reply to the "ofcourse we will have a war" statement [AZTECLADY007@ao] Flags Across America/HONOR OUR HEROES and VICTIMS [AZTECLADY007@aol.com] NPR:reporting directly from NYC(update) [BluesyBear@aol.com] PR: Poe in Charlotte ["crack head" ] Fwd: Nostradamus 'predictions' a hoax [Fumbler310@aol.com] Re: Reply to the "ofcourse we will have a war" statement ["jessica gilwee] Re: Hatred and Us ["Sarah H." ] NPR - Give all you can... WTC Attack [Cyberfan Corporation ] Re: NPR Sarah H: H is for Hatred or Re: NPR NPR_Re: Poe in NY , safe. [UnbrokenVixen@aol.co] NPR: I got Tori tickets. Yay!!! [Miki Proud ] When I said there would be a war.... [Prozackitty16@aol.com] Re: Let's talk about Poe [Lacey2327@aol.com] Re: Let's talk about Poe [XWhenIGrowUpX@aol.com] Re: Let's talk about Poe ["Bad Bender" ] Re: I will speak my peace (bad choice of words) now and shut up [TsukiFae] Re: Let's talk about Poe [ernie gregg ] Re: Let's talk about Poe [Miki Proud ] Re: Let's talk about Poe [Miki Proud ] Re: NPR-Re: A five sided figure and the NYC skyline-NPR ["Bad Bender" ] Recognition [TsukiFaerie@aol.com] Re: WTC- Time to blow them away ["~ Sarah ~" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:30:51 EDT From: AZTECLADY007@aol.com Subject: Re: Reply to the "ofcourse we will have a war" statement Apprently the Palestinians and Afhanistans (is that even right) DO support terrorists! I HOPE WE DO HAVE A WAR! (can't believe she just said that) I AM VERY VERY PISSED OFF! I can't stand and watch anymore of this happen! Mom's, Dad's...CHILDREN all lost their lives on Tuesday and may even be continuing to lose them as we speak under all the rubble of the toppled towers. THIS IS ENOUGH! We have been recieving Bomb threats all over the U.S! As we speak my S.Francisco Office is being evacuated because of a bomb threat! F*&& THIS! If terrorists think they can frighten us and change our way of living then i spit on your faces! AMERICA will not be threatened... GO TO HELL TERRORISTS! heheh Thank you. Those are my angry, pissy .2 cents. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:36:29 EDT From: AZTECLADY007@aol.com Subject: Flags Across America/HONOR OUR HEROES and VICTIMS Early this morning i was watching the news broadcasts to see if by any chance more people have been rescued... ALL OVER Southern California Newscasters mentioned for Drivers to drive with their lights ON during the day as a tribute to our Heroes and Victims in the Terrorist Attacks...:( Please drive with your lights on at all times and Honor our STRONG AND BRAVE Americans. *crying* P.S...dont forget to turn them off during the day when you leave your cars guys... In Awe and sadness, Sandra-D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:42:42 EDT From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: NPR:reporting directly from NYC(update) Well....I live on the upperwest side...(colombia area known as "morningside heights")...and I'm not too far from Harlem. Well..lemme just say that Harlem is the fucking HAMPTONS compared to midtown. I went down to explore yesterday and it's a ghost town. It's normally bustling with annoying tourists but it's sooo quiet...very eerie. Anyway...there are a LOT of damage buildings...it's fucking depressing..NYC won't be the same for quite a long time..if not forever... I'm gonna try and take some pics.. Will ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:41:38 -0400 From: "crack head" Subject: PR: Poe in Charlotte Not to sound callous, but... So do we know for sure yet whether Poe will make to Charlotte or not? I know there's speculation that she can't, but it's still listed at pollstar.com (whereas the Kansas City show was taken down yesterday). I'm just curious because I have no desire to go if she isn't going to be there. I don't want to make the trip if I can't see Poe!! (Plus, if I didn't go, that would save on gas... which is probably something we need to be thinking about anyway!!!) I'm sure that whenever someone knows anything for sure, they'll post it to the list. I'm just getting a little anxious waiting for it. :P Thanks! Erin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:43:28 EDT From: Fumbler310@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Nostradamus 'predictions' a hoax Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (rly-yh02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.34]) by air-yh03.mail.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINYH36-0913163321; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:33:21 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [66.89.201.78]) by rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYH29-0913163217; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:32:19 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id f8DKVdv1007646; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:31:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/submit) with SMTP id f8DKVbdh007639; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:31:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:31:32 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id f8DKVUv1007616 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:31:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/submit) id f8DKVTt6007615 for fumbling-towards-ecstasy-outgoing; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:31:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail3.iserv.net (mail3.iserv.net [204.177.184.153]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id f8DKVOv1007602 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pctemp (koeze-228.iserv.net [199.170.116.228]) by mail3.iserv.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f8DKVOu07442 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:31:25 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.32.20010913163130.00701a30@i2k.com> X-Sender: michaelt@i2k.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:31:31 -0400 To: fte@smoe.org From: Michael Subject: Nostradamus 'predictions' a hoax Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-fumbling-towards-ecstasy@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Yup, the subject line says it all. Here's the scoop: The main jist of the article is this: Nostradamus did not write the quatrain now being attributed to him. (One wonders how a guy who died in 1566 could have written an item identified as being penned in 1654 anyway.) It originated with a student at Brock University in Canada in the 1990s, appearing on a web page essay on Nostradamus. That particular quatrain was offered by the page's author, Neil Marshall, as a fabricated example to illustrate how easily an important-sounding prophecy can be crafted through the use of abstract imagery. He pointed out how the terms he used were so deliberately vague they could be interpreted to fit any number of cataclysmic events. They are referring to this quote that has caused a bit of a ruckus on the list: "In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb, The third big war will begin when the big city is burning" Nostradamus 1654 Check it out, there's more information regarding other supposed 'predictions'. Michael - - This has been a post from the fumbling-towards-ecstasy list. To unsubscribe from this list, send a message containing 'unsubscribe' to fte-request@smoe.org. OR if you are on digest, please write majordomo@smoe.org a message containing 'unsubscribe fumbling-towards-ecstasy-digest'. To send a message to the list, send it to fte@smoe.org. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:51:05 -0700 From: "jessica gilwee" Subject: Re: Reply to the "ofcourse we will have a war" statement >From: joe a >To: jessica gilwee , angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Reply to the "ofcourse we will have a war" statement >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:35:43 -0700 (PDT) > > >Jessica- > >There are several nation-states that actively promote >the user of terrorism: Libya, Iran, Iraq, Syria and >Sudan just to name a few. They give extensive >technical, financial and service help to terrorists. >Would you care to examine your statement again? > > Yes I would: I don't think that any of those countries would have supported the actions that were taken on Tuesday. Do they want to pick on us? What the hell is that? The countries listed above are not ones to mess with the US in this manner. I mean think about it, would those gov't seriously start a war with us of all nations? I really don't think that they supported this recent turn of events. We can take them out in a second. The only way that this would turn into a war is if other bigger countries take the back of the smaller ones (if they were responsible). If Russia backs up one, if China does, then we have a problem. But right now, I really don't think that those countries have the support of a large, well militaried nation, or enough balls, or even enough fire power to seriously go "okay, let's do this to America, and then have them come after us for it." NO WAY. No country supported what happened on Tuesday. It would be a complete suicide mission. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:15:20 -0400 From: "Sarah H." Subject: Re: Hatred and Us Thanks Eliada. thats exactly what I wanted to say. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:35:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Cyberfan Corporation Subject: NPR - Give all you can... WTC Attack http://s1.amazon.com/paypage/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/002-3533121-5821617 Thanks *************************************************** JK/// Jarrod Kniff President - Cyberfan Corporation jarrod@cyberfan.com *************************************************** "One important key to success is self-confidence. An important key to self-confidence is preparation." -- Arthur Ashe *************************************************** "Time... is on my side. Yes it is." -- Rolling Stones *************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:17:35 -0400 From: "Sarah H." Subject: Fw: Willy' way beyond rationalism or RE: WTC- Time to blow them away Damn straight. I am ready to go over there and blow them up. I cannot believe some of you. I really cant. I am ready to fight for America. So should you Americans (I am using the term loosely today). Has anyone watched the news? did you see those phone calls where the guy, his wife, and his 4 year old daughter were on the pentagon plane. he called his dad and said "don't worry. we wont suffer long". that alone is reason for me to hop in a bomber and kill those guilty, slimy, dirty sob's. and on another note: we have too much blood. that's because all their pulling out is bodies. And I hope you all remember what those terrorists gave us. nothing but depression and loss. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:54 PM > Subject: Re: Willy' way beyond rationalism or RE: WTC- Time to blow them > away > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/01 5:00:52 PM Alaskan Daylight Time, > > LiveThruThisVow@aol.com writes: > > > > > > > Werd. For those who aren't in the military, who would have the nerve to > > > actually carry out what they say and bomb these countries? > > > > > > > > > > Good point ..... > > who is ready to voluntarily enlist ? Sarah ?? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:18:13 -0400 From: "Sarah H." Subject: Re: NPR Sarah H: H is for Hatred or Re: NPR NPR_Re: Poe in NY , safe. Thanks. You only further prove to me that America is in real trouble. People like you need to get off our backs. your either with America, or against America. I am not hateful. I am pissed off. you should not celebrate the death of people. not even Hitler. celebrate the fact that his reign is over. anyway, those people are against America in such a way, that I cant even convey it to you. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John H" > To: "Sarah H." ; > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:42 PM > Subject: NPR Sarah H: H is for Hatred or Re: NPR NPR_Re: Poe in NY , safe. > > > > > > You have no brain > > > > why are you so hateful? don't forget it is hate that > > brought us to where we are now. > > > > --- "Sarah H." wrote: > > > > > > Right, it isnt. thats why you have to bomb people > > > over there. Make the > > > casulities high enough that they hand over Bin laden > > > and learn not to mess > > > with the United States. Make an example of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: AZTECLADY007@aol.com > > > >To: , , > > > , > > > > , > > > , > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: NPR NPR_Re: Poe in NY , safe. > > > >Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:48:07 EDT > > > > > > > >Hmmm...Do you think Bin Laden thought the way you > > > did just now when he > > > >decided to attack the U.S.. > > > > > > > > > > > >"Hmmm...President No....Citizens of the U.S...YES!" > > > > > > > >COME ON get real if we are going to win this we > > > have to kill innocent > > > >people > > > >as well...just like they did to us. > > > > > > > >THis isnt school , this isnt ethics class its > > > REALITY and LIFE. > > > > > > > >Life isnt fair remember... > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > ===== > > Unmoderater, Universal Angry Psychos (AllPsychos) > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! > Messenger > > http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:31:20 -0500 From: "rachel kuly" Subject: Fwd: Fw: US Pride DAY (Friday, Sept. 14) >From: "Rachel Kuly" >To: >Subject: Fw: US Pride DAY (Friday, Sept. 14) >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:24:15 -0500 > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tom Wright" >To: >Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:20 PM >Subject: Fw: US Pride DAY (Friday, Sept. 14) > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Adam Mossoff" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:35 PM > > Subject: Fwd: US Pride DAY (Friday, Sept. 14) > > > > > > > Keep forwarding... > > > > > > >>Subject: Fw: US Pride DAY > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Tomorrow is US pride day, everyone wear US colors (jeans are blue, > > > >>everyone owns a white t-shirt, etc). try to be wearing as much red > > > >>white and blue as you can. send this message to as many other people >you > > > >>know. Lets get the whole country into it. At least send it to 10 >other > > > >>people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:32:40 -0400 From: "mindy king" Subject: Re: NPR-Re: A five sided figure and the NYC skyline-NPR >people on this list have mentioned how we shouldn't bomb so-and-so country, >we would kill innocent people. I say if any country is willingly hiding >these people they deserve what they get. If they don't want to be bombed >then hand him over or just show us where he is, we have smart bombs and we >can snuff out his tent. Instead these countries hide and protect him all >the >while denying they support him and are not responsible for his crimes. i WILL NOT take sides on this debate going on on our list, but i do have one thing to say that is just common sense -- when you say "if any country is willingly hiding these people.. blah-blah-blah" you're acting as if the entire country is one consciousness... as if they are always aware of what their government is up to... think of it this way.. do YOU know exactly what our us government is up to at any given time... maybe they DON'T know where bin laden is, maybe they DON'T know if their government is protecting/hiding bin laden... so you're saying bomb a bunch of people because their GOVERNMENT won't tell us what they're doing? government and civilians are two different things... you want to kill civilians because they won't give up information that they don't necessarily have.... this isn't a flame or anything like that, i'm just saying if the tables were turned and someone in our country viciously attacked another country, but you had nothing to do with it and maybe you even disagree with it... would you want to be the one who's bombed in retaliation? all i'm saying is allow our government to gather more information before they make a decision... ~mindy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:04:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Miki Proud Subject: Let's talk about Poe I know we're all still really shook up from the events of the past few days, but I really miss opening up my mailbox and finding Poe related material inside. I'll even get the ball rolling with a new thread. What's your favorite lyric from a Poe song? Mine's a toss-up between "I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face," "So I made wish on a million of the stars, registered your name on a few. That way if you ever forget who you are you can look up and see a picture of you," and the entire song "If you were here." ===== I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... He's a merman...he doesn't need a voice And right there for a minute, I knew you so well . __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:33:41 EDT From: UnbrokenVixen@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Sarah H: H is for Hatred or Re: NPR NPR_Re: Poe in NY , safe. In a message dated 9/13/2001 5:23:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, texas199@hotmail.com writes: > < People like you need to get off our backs. your either with America, or > against America. I am not hateful. I am pissed off. you should not > celebrate the death of people. not even Hitler. celebrate the fact that > his reign is over. anyway, those people are against America in such a way, > that I cant even convey it to you.>> And how is what you're saying any different? It sounds as if you would rejoice just as much as those Palestinians did (and btw -- that made my blood boil. I canNOT imagine EVER dancing in the streets because innocent people are dead). But just because someone is advising we use *caution* before we go around bombing everyone doesn't mean they're "against America". I believe that when we find the person(s)/group/country (whatever it turns out to be) responsible, that we should go after them with *EVERYTHING* in our power and arsenal. But I also don't want to see blood shed just for the sake of being able to say, "OH LOOk! HA! We killed some people." It won't bring anyone back and all it does is bring us down to their level. When we find the responsible party, and WE WILL, I can't wait to see them punished. Including any countries or people who gave them safe haven. I agree with Bush, there is NO difference between those who carried out this atrocity and those who allowed the people sanctuary. But for the record, you're entitled to your opinion. All I ask is that you avoid labeling people as being un-American because they disagree with how you feel this should be handled. I'm proud to be an American and I always will be. xoxo Alexandra + 09.11.01 + "These acts shattered steel, but they cannot dent the steel of America's resolve." ~President Bush America in Crisis: How Can I Help? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:15:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Miki Proud Subject: NPR: I got Tori tickets. Yay!!! I suddenly feel the need to post the first happy email in days. I just got orchestra seats to the Tori concert in LA. Big huge thanks go out to whomever it was that directed me to the Tori website with the advance sale password. I owe you big. Is anyone else attending this show? I'd love to meet up with all you angry psychos in LA if I can. Much Love Miki ===== I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... He's a merman...he doesn't need a voice And right there for a minute, I knew you so well . __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:37:11 EDT From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: When I said there would be a war.... When I said there would be a war I did not mean that we have a specific date or even country in mind yet. HOWEVER.....Bush has already stated that...in a nutshell in so many words...when we DO find who did this...were gonna' kick there terrorist ass! Like I said before.....no one in mind YET...but we WILL find out eventually... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:48:59 EDT From: Lacey2327@aol.com Subject: Re: Let's talk about Poe Hmmmm...that's a toss-up... I think I'd have to go with: "Here by the ocean the sky's full of leaves, And what they will tell you depends on what you believe." - --from Amazed Yeah, those are definately my favorites!! (And thank you for stating a non-bomb related question!!) Lots of love, Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:57:12 EDT From: XWhenIGrowUpX@aol.com Subject: Re: Let's talk about Poe "and if i decided to make you my religion, i think god would be kind." that's my favorite poe lyric. and i have to give a special mention to my favorite poe verse and chorus: "It's amazing to me but I can't Seem to say what I'm doing here My tongue is all twisted around the air I'm looking for words that were so well rehearsed But I can't find them anywhere With you there's no easy answer It's true You change the equation that I add up to And all of the things I thought I knew You turn it around I'm amazed When push comes to shove what I'd give to you Everything I'm amazed The hallways I wouldn't mind crawling through And I'd do it for days and days I'm amazed, I'm amazed That places your taking me to" thanks for getting my mind on other things talula... - -reg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:08:09 -0500 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: Re: Let's talk about Poe My favorite , right now, is "Don't you mess with me.." from Control "To secure peace is to prepare for war." - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miki Proud" To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:04 PM Subject: Let's talk about Poe > > I know we're all still really shook up from the events > of the past few days, but I really miss opening up my > mailbox and finding Poe related material inside. I'll > even get the ball rolling with a new thread. What's > your favorite lyric from a Poe song? Mine's a toss-up > between "I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face," "So I > made wish on a million of the stars, registered your > name on a few. That way if you ever forget who you are > you can look up and see a picture of you," and the > entire song "If you were here." > > ===== > I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... > > He's a merman...he doesn't need a voice > > And right there for a minute, I knew you so well > > . > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:02:07 EDT From: TsukiFaerie@aol.com Subject: Re: I will speak my peace (bad choice of words) now and shut up i understand how you must feel....i live less that 15 minutes away from NYC, and on a clear day, i could see those twin towers from school. but now they're gone, and i'm so disraught that i haven't slept since the event, or kept down solid food. i can say i don't completely agree with your terms of punishment, so to speak, but i respect it. does that make any sense? i don't think it matters anyway, because nothing seems to make sense anymore. take care sally ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:24:10 -0700 (MST) From: ernie gregg Subject: Re: Let's talk about Poe my favorite part of any poe song is from haunted time to gather up the splinters build a casket for my tears (from like ANY song, really) ernie ___________________________________________ www.scandalism.com My child is a disappointment and a disgrace ____________________dg_____________________ On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 Lacey2327@aol.com wrote: > > Hmmmm...that's a toss-up... > I think I'd have to go with: > "Here by the ocean the sky's full of leaves, > And what they will tell you depends on what you believe." > --from Amazed > > Yeah, those are definately my favorites!! (And thank you for stating a > non-bomb related question!!) > > Lots of love, Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:10:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Miki Proud Subject: Re: Let's talk about Poe You left out my favorite line of that song: "I'm not really sure what it is you do, but do it again." > that's my favorite poe lyric. and i have to give a > special mention to my > favorite poe verse and chorus: > > "It's amazing to me but I can't > Seem to say what I'm doing here > My tongue is all twisted around the air > I'm looking for words that were so well rehearsed > But I can't find them anywhere > With you there's no easy answer > It's true > You change the equation that I add up to > And all of the things I thought I knew > You turn it around > > I'm amazed > When push comes to shove what I'd give to you > Everything > I'm amazed > The hallways I wouldn't mind crawling through > And I'd do it for days and days > > I'm amazed, I'm amazed > > That places your taking me to" > > thanks for getting my mind on other things talula... > > -reg ===== I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... He's a merman...he doesn't need a voice And right there for a minute, I knew you so well . __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:11:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Miki Proud Subject: Re: Let's talk about Poe Wow, almost everybody's favorite lines come from Amazed, and nobody picked the same ones. That's kinda cool. - --- Lacey2327@aol.com wrote: > > Hmmmm...that's a toss-up... > I think I'd have to go with: > "Here by the ocean the sky's full of leaves, > And what they will tell you depends on what you > believe." > --from Amazed > > Yeah, those are definately my favorites!! (And > thank you for stating a > non-bomb related question!!) > > Lots of love, Lisa ===== I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... He's a merman...he doesn't need a voice And right there for a minute, I knew you so well . __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:26:54 -0500 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: Re: NPR-Re: A five sided figure and the NYC skyline-NPR > i WILL NOT take sides on this debate going on on our list, but i do have one > thing to say that is just common sense -- when you say "if any country is > willingly hiding these people.. blah-blah-blah" you're acting as if the > entire country is one consciousness... as if they are always aware of what > their government is up to... They may not know everything but surely they must be aware of Bin-Laden's presence in their country. It's a small country and people talk. This isn't something new either, it's a well held belief that he is there. Our recon and intell will sniff him out so we'll know for sure before we unleash hell. think of it this way.. do YOU know exactly > what our us government is up to at any given time... maybe they DON'T know > where bin laden is, maybe they DON'T know if their government is > protecting/hiding bin laden... so you're saying bomb a bunch of people > because their GOVERNMENT won't tell us what they're doing? I never said bomb schools, churches, malls or Trade towers. Using the LOAC (Law of Armed Conflict) we cannot bomb civilians, just military targets. They should demand that their government release any information they have about his location. Doing so will help better the world's opinion of them, which will help them in the long run. government and > civilians are two different things... you want to kill civilians because > they won't give up information that they don't necessarily have.... > I don't want to kill civillians. I never said I want to kill civillians. I wish those responsible felt the same way. > this isn't a flame or anything like that, i'm just saying if the tables were > turned and someone in our country viciously attacked another country, but > you had nothing to do with it and maybe you even disagree with it... would > you want to be the one who's bombed in retaliation? all i'm saying is allow > our government to gather more information before they make a decision... > If the tables were turned and our country was told to hand over a know criminal or else be attacked by a much larger and stronger country I would hope that, in order to save lives, we would turn him over. If we didn't know where he was then we'd find him. It is in their power to stop any attack, just cooperate. It's isn't as if our charges or demands are unfounded. I understand what you wrote wasn't a flame and I thank you for expressing yourself in a calm manner. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:17:07 -0500 From: "Knight Arthur" Subject: Re: NPR: I got Tori tickets. Yay!!! There's a password for advanced buying of tickets?! I was planning on buying mine when they went on sale tommorow morning for the show in Indianapolis. That's pretty cool that you got Orchestra seats! - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur" Your friendly neighborhood diety, Yoichi Taba >From: Miki Proud >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: NPR: I got Tori tickets. Yay!!! >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:15:21 -0700 (PDT) > > >I suddenly feel the need to post the first happy email >in days. I just got orchestra seats to the Tori >concert in LA. Big huge thanks go out to whomever it >was that directed me to the Tori website with the >advance sale password. I owe you big. Is anyone else >attending this show? I'd love to meet up with all you >angry psychos in LA if I can. > >Much Love > >Miki > >===== >I dreamt tomorrow had a prettier face... > >He's a merman...he doesn't need a voice > >And right there for a minute, I knew you so well > >. > >__________________________________________________ >Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? >Donate cash, emergency relief information >http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:22:43 EDT From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: WTC- Time to blow them away Has it occurred to you that if we wipe out these countries and kill Bin-Laden that the many terrorists all over the WORLD, not just these specific countries, most likely have a horrific plan because they know that a simple response to what they did to us is to kill their leader? If our last resort is war, I respect that, but not right now because it's too soon. It is VERY likely that there are terrorists in AMERICA. Our OWN fucking country. After we bomb Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq ... what have you, they WILL strike back in a fiercer way. In response to this comment.. I will quote you :"Would you like to undergo the way I have been feeling these last few hours? A feeling of fear that hey I may not wake up tomorrow because a plane may get dropped on me, a train may go skidding of the tracks and take out the town, or simply because the food and water I consume may of had some chemical agent put into it. This is what I have to deal with now and probably forever, and I know sure as all hell that im not the only one." Aww, poor baby. That statement was just out of line considering you DON'T know who you're talking to and you DON'T know who my goddamn friends are and WHERE they live. I'm fucking American, too. You are NOT the only one suffering because of this. Whew, I'm trying to keep this email friendly, but calm the FUCK down. Respect the opinion of others if you want ANY understanding of your point-of-view. I'm done now :) ~*~ Burning inside (i cross myself it doesn't help) because I'm not smart enough (digging into hot white) learning not to lie (we cross it out and stay away) another sonic life~ Sonic Youth ~*~ I can't get laid cuz everyone is dead~ Sonic Youth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:24:43 EDT From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: a few whys/what-ifs In a message dated 9/13/01 9:39:08 AM Central Daylight Time, kyl_the_paladin@hotmail.com writes: > I spent some time yesterday working up an explanation of the why Muslims > hate Americans for another fellow AP. The explanation is far too large to > On the lighter side... sort of... it makes you wonder where Cat Stevens is during all of this. ~*~ Burning inside (i cross myself it doesn't help) because I'm not smart enough (digging into hot white) learning not to lie (we cross it out and stay away) another sonic life~ Sonic Youth ~*~ I can't get laid cuz everyone is dead~ Sonic Youth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:26:19 -0400 From: "~ Sarah ~" Subject: Re: NPR Sarah H At this point, I probably would rejoice if the guilty parties were killed. But, what I'm telling you i think those dumbf*cks celebrating are just as guilty. Personally, If I lived over there right now, I would try to get my ass over to russia or something. >And how is what you're saying any different? It sounds as if you would >rejoice just as much as those Palestinians did (and btw -- that made my >blood >boil. I canNOT imagine EVER dancing in the streets because innocent people >are dead). But just because someone is advising we use *caution* before we >go around bombing everyone doesn't mean they're "against America". I >believe >that when we find the person(s)/group/country (whatever it turns out to be) >responsible, that we should go after them with *EVERYTHING* in our power >and >arsenal. But I also don't want to see blood shed just for the sake of >being >able to say, "OH LOOk! HA! We killed some people." It won't bring anyone >back and all it does is bring us down to their level. > >When we find the responsible party, and WE WILL, I can't wait to see them >punished. Including any countries or people who gave them safe haven. I >agree with Bush, there is NO difference between those who carried out this >atrocity and those who allowed the people sanctuary. > >But for the record, you're entitled to your opinion. All I ask is that you >avoid labeling people as being un-American because they disagree with how >you >feel this should be handled. > >I'm proud to be an American and I always will be. > >xoxo >Alexandra > >+ 09.11.01 + >"These acts shattered steel, but they cannot dent the steel of America's >resolve." >~President Bush >America in Crisis: >How Can I Help? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:36:54 EDT From: TsukiFaerie@aol.com Subject: Recognition today my fitness walking class carried a flag with them when we went out. so many people honked and cheered...i was almost crying. it was incredible...i hope this patriatism lasts, though.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:38:30 -0400 From: "~ Sarah ~" Subject: Re: WTC- Time to blow them away Personally, I think the The United States needs to take over the world...Meaning, anyone who is a threat to us, or anyone not allied to us, should be taken over. people with us, we share our new land with and let them keep theirs. I think this would be great, because you'd feel safer around the world. There would be people against it, rebelling and such, but it would be a lot harder to get funding and support for them to do hanis acts like the wtc thing. (aka, no mulit-billionairs funding that bullshit) Wouldn't it be great to go to Italy, without waiting for a passport? Feeling safe from harm. (I'm just using Italy as an example. I have nothing against them, except for the fact that they didn't side up with us) ~Sarah I don't want to be president. I want to be dictator. :) >From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com >To: GabriKn@aol.com, angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: WTC- Time to blow them away >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:22:43 EDT > > > Has it occurred to you that if we wipe out these countries and kill >Bin-Laden that the many terrorists all over the WORLD, not just these >specific countries, most likely have a horrific plan because they know that >a >simple response to what they did to us is to kill their leader? If our last >resort is war, I respect that, but not right now because it's too soon. It >is >VERY likely that there are terrorists in AMERICA. Our OWN fucking country. >After we bomb Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq ... what have you, they WILL strike >back in a fiercer way. In response to this comment.. I will quote you >:"Would you like to undergo the way I have been feeling these last few >hours? > A feeling of fear that hey I may not wake up tomorrow because a plane >may >get dropped on me, a train may go skidding of the tracks and take out the >town, or simply because the food and water I consume may of had some >chemical >agent put into it. This is what I have to deal with now and probably >forever, and I know sure as all hell that im not the only one." Aww, poor >baby. That statement was just out of line considering you DON'T know who >you're talking to and you DON'T know who my goddamn friends are and WHERE >they live. I'm fucking American, too. You are NOT the only one suffering >because of this. Whew, I'm trying to keep this email friendly, but calm the >FUCK down. Respect the opinion of others if you want ANY understanding of >your point-of-view. I'm done now :) > >~*~ Burning inside (i cross myself it doesn't help) because I'm not smart >enough (digging into hot white) learning not to lie (we cross it out and >stay >away) another sonic life~ Sonic Youth > >~*~ I can't get laid cuz everyone is dead~ Sonic Youth _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #407 ***********************************