From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #323 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Wednesday, July 25 2001 Volume 06 : Number 323 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: replies [KrodKnid@aol.com] NPR "Sunrise" [justin_rossetti@space.com] Re: NPR - Belief-o-matic quiz ["Blue DragonWolf" ] Re: Virus Alert!!! ["bad bender" ] Re: NPR: some call me a space cowboy, so worship me. [Adam Neubauer ] Portland Music Millennium- flyers!!! [VR5SBloom@aol.com] haunted price [steever ] Re: NPR first and last cd ["*~* Melissa *~*" ] ATTN: Dean . Something For You From Poe. ["sp00k@poe.org" ] Re: Poe time [TerraTrepe@aol.com] NPR: Belief quiz... Liberal Quaker?!?!?! ["J.R. Jobe" ] NPR: It's all in how you use it. [Adam Neubauer ] Re: NPR All my firsts... ["Robert A Darke" ] Re: Re: replies ["Brian Brantley" ] Re: NPR: Salads, was Re: replies ["Robert A Darke" ] Re: Portland Music Millennium- flyers!!! [EXej@aol.com] Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #322 [PoeKittie@aol.com] concerts ["Joellercoaster of Love" ] Re: Re: NPR: Salads, was Re: replies ["Brian Brantley" You certainly may want to hold your breath before "tossing someone's salad", > but I think it means something different. I'm pretty sure that salad > tossing refers to eating out someone's butthole. I believe a synonymn > would > be rimjob. > > Mike (I have no idea why I know this...) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Because they talked about the term in some prison documentary and then > Chris Rock used it in one of his comedy routines on cable. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 2001 23:08:15 -0700 From: justin_rossetti@space.com Subject: NPR "Sunrise" Ok, I may be a bit shy in real life, but that's only because I'm a sucker for romance, TRUE romance, and it always ends up getting me hurt. But here's that little short story that Poe inspired me to write just the other day: An incredible stillness hung over the world, a magical calm which combined with the mellow fragrances of the woods, the quiet gossip of insects and the brilliant light of the stars to soothe my spirit. Such a moment is rarely found, but often sought after by dreamers such as myself, and the magic fills me with the knowledge of what it is. I stood up from my seat upon a large stone of granite high in the mountains, higher than I can ever remember climbing before. My small camp sprawled out behind me, the fire a mere jumble of embers now that the night is through. I have been on many travels, many days, many summers, many adventures. This was the moment each was created for, the moment of peace, one moment of truth. The sky brightened slowly, almost subconsciously, that every few minutes I had to tell myself, yes, here comes the sun. And it did. First, nothing but a lighter shade of blue, painted over moments later with pale violets and orange. The clouds flecked with golden pale light, so noble that my eyes could only see the hint of its true color. I held my breath. The sun burst forth from behind the distant peaks, like a golden coin, shedding it's majesty across the landscape with pleasure, illuminating the trees, the mountins, the cliffs, the blue lakes, and the white sky. I breathed a deep breath, not because my body required it, but because it was one of those moments that the mind needs to breathe. Such a splendid sight, I almost squinted and missed it, but I had seen it all. My heart raced at the beauty of it, and I was so moved, I wondered, as I always do, "Is this not the most beautiful sunrise I have ever seen?" ___________________________________________________________________ Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:14:36 -0700 From: "Blue DragonWolf" Subject: Re: NPR - Belief-o-matic quiz 100% neo pagan baby! Oh yeah! Bout time one of these tests got it right. *smiles* je t'aime, LB (who is feeling a little loopy right now so don't mind me) "You haven't truly made it until your head is on a pez dispenser." "I once stayed up all night playing poker with tarot cards. I dealt a full house and 4 people died." ~ Steven Wright Visit me online: www.geocities.com/timberwolf0601 Talk to me online: aim: beltain25 icq: 15606443 msn: sugarbaby_25@hotmail.com yahoo: incredible_temptations - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 06:31:05 +0000 From: "Vanessa Miranda" Subject: Re: NPR- OKAY...What was the LAST CD you purchased? >From: bash >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: NPR- OKAY...What was the LAST CD you purchased? >Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:33:35 -0700 > > >Hello and Haunted... Wow! Me too! going to get Tool and Gorillaz on Thursday though. ~Vanessa _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 06:40:34 +0000 From: "Vanessa Miranda" Subject: Re: NPR: First concert (and last cd bought) >From: Jorrit Harssema >Reply-To: Jorrit Harssema >To: "angry-psychos@smoe.org" >Subject: Re: NPR: First concert (and last cd bought) >Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 23:03:36 +0200 > > >I'm not sure, but I think it was either: >- Alice in Chains: "Down in your hole" tour (one of the worst concerts >ever), or >- Living Colour - Stain-tour (one of the best concerts ever) > >The last cd's that I bought two weeks ago were: > Tricky - Blowback > Tool - Lateralus > Seedling - Elevator Tourist My first concert was KWODs Really Big show 2. Greenday was supposed to be there but they didn't show but it was cool anyway and we got free tix to KWODs Twisted x-mas concert with our ticket stubs cuz Greenday waws supposed to be ther too but they didnt show up again and the show still went on and rocked. I don't think Greenday like Sacramento very much : ( *sigh* Oh well. ~Vanessa _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 06:42:52 +0000 From: "Vanessa Miranda" Subject: Re: NPR: first Cd I ever bought >From: Violet7360@aol.com >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: NPR: first Cd I ever bought >Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:39:54 EDT > > >I think It was Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill. I was in the 7th >grade LOL I think that was mine too. Well, that or Sheryl Crow. I had the tapes but I wanted the CDs cuz the tapes were going out. ~Vanessa _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 06:47:52 -0400 From: Matt Latham Subject: NPR: Salads, was Re: replies holding your breath for sexual pleasure = erotic asphyxiation. Oprah did a whole show on auto-erotic asphyxiation, which was pleasuring onesself while holding your breath (or finding a way to block it). It is very dangerous. Some rock star died of it in the late 80s/early 90s I think. Salad tossing, on the other hand... well, safe sex rules apply. And hope that the person whose salad you're tossing doesn't pass gas while you're down there. Oh good lord. I can't believe I'm even talking about this. - --Gigamatt > From: "mike brame" > Reply-To: mr.eagle@pobox.com > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:06:18 -0700 > To: roseisnotarose@hotmail.com, angry-psychos@smoe.org > Subject: Re: replies > > >> and then...about the holding your breath for pleasure letter: i've heard it >> called "tossing the salad" before and it IS very very dangerous. i would >> stay away from it. it could kill you. >> > > You certainly may want to hold your breath before "tossing someone's salad", > but I think it means something different. I'm pretty sure that salad > tossing refers to eating out someone's butthole. I believe a synonymn would > be rimjob. > > Mike (I have no idea why I know this...) > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 07:28:44 -0500 From: "bad bender" Subject: Re: Virus Alert!!! "Today is the last day of your life, so far." > I checked the Mcaffee and Symantec web pages and found on such warning. I also watch CNN and saw no warning or story there. I have seen the subject line in a virus before but that's why YOU NEVER OPEN ATTACHMENTS and you'll be fine for the most part. > PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERYONE ON YOUR CONTACT LIST !! > > A new virus has just been discovered that has been > classified by Microsoft as the most destructive ever! This virus was > discovered yesterday afternoon by McAfee and no vaccine has yet been > developed. This virus simply destroys Sector Zero from the hard disk, where > vital information for its functioning are stored. > This virus acts in the following manner: It sends itself > automatically to all contacts on your list with the title "A Virtual Card > for You." > As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened, the computer freezes so > that the user has to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del keys or the reset button > are pressed, the virus destroys Sector Zero, thus permanently destroying > the hard disk. Yesterday in just a few hours this virus caused panic in > New York, according to news broadcast by CNN. This alert was received by an > employee of Microsoft itself. So don't open any mails with subject: > "A Virtual Card for You." As soon as you get the mail, delete it. > Please pass this mail to all of your friends. Forward this to everyone in > your address book. > I would rather receive this 25 times than not at all. Also: Intel announced > that a new and very destructive virus was discovered recently. > If you receive an email called "An Internet Flower For You," > do not open it. Delete it right away! This virus removes all > dynamic link libraries (.dll files) from your computer. > Your computer will not be able to boot up !! > > > > > > > > > > > Zvi Lichter > Webmaster ICS Globe Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 05:48:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Neubauer Subject: Re: NPR: some call me a space cowboy, so worship me. I think the point is that they're trying to abolish "categories". My girlfriend came up with this idea (who's on this list), and I believe she's right. If your read the specifics on, say, the top five of your list, you'll find a lot of overlap. And a jewish pagan? How do you do that? Just curious. adam > Good thing cause I am a jewish pagan and i got; > 1. Liberal Protestant (100%) > http://www.beliefnet.com/story/80/story_8028_1.html" > target="_new > > LOL...Um, no......I am not;) > at least i got 99% neo pagan as number two! > Shari Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:50:34 EDT From: Mrksmnbaby@aol.com Subject: NPR - First/Last CD, First concert Let's see, my first purchased CD was back before I even had a CD player; Bell Biv Devoe's "Poison".....The last one bought was Poe's "Hello", for my wife, just yesterday! It's already apparent she doesn't like it as well as "Haunted", though... My first concert had to be Public Enemy/EPMD, at Buffalo State College....Damn, those were the days! :) __________ Mark Baranowski author-screenwriter...musician...sketch artist http://markbaranowski.faithweb.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:53:31 -0400 From: "Claire HM" Subject: NPR: Uniterians or we just dont know? I would agree that in modern society people pick and choose what they belive in, and how they live their lives from that goodie basket of religions we have here. The funny thing is, that is what the Uniterians are actually about, and supporting... i was looking up more info online since every one seemed to have questions. here is what i found directly fom one site: http://www.uua.org/bookstore/uufaq.html "At a Unitarian Universalist worship service or meeting, you are likely to find members whose positions on faith may be derived from a variety of religious beliefs: Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, naturist, atheist, or agnostic. Members might tell you that they are religious humanists, liberal Christians, or world religionists. All these people, and others who label their beliefs still differently, are faithful Unitarian Universalists committed to the practice of free religion. We worship, sing, play, study, teach, and work for social justice together as congregations-all the while remaining strong in our individual convictions. If Unitarian Universalists hold such varied convictions, what does it mean to be a Unitarian Universalist?" there was then a list of links to learn more... i just found it amusing as I had jsut read some one saying the exact thing about most people in the US. any who religiouse musing to you all. Claire _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:47:55 EDT From: VR5SBloom@aol.com Subject: Portland Music Millennium- flyers!!! Finally I remember something in time for stuff to be done! ::O The Music Millennium signing/set tomorrow is the last type of the very few planned public events where you can meet Poe on this tour. There will be plenty of potential PsYcHoS there, so please photocopy some flyers and bring them with you! http://houseofleaves.4t.com/house2.html I don't know what to do about polishchick.com - cross it out tastefully I guess. I think it'll look less noticeable on the AP recruitment flyer than the other one. I am late for work so please post the URLs for Mike's flyers on sp00k's space... Thanks and have a great time! ::) - --Michele Open for trades! http://trade.shelle.org/ Got promos, bootlegs, or MP3s of your favorite artist? Feel guilty? Give 'em a tip at http://www.fairtunes.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:52:16 -0400 (EDT) From: steever Subject: haunted price wow. i saw haunted (the newer pressing w/ the extra hey pretty) for 7.99 at target a few weeks ago. i think it was 9.99 at best buy. i was going to get the newer version at target because it was so cheap but i really dislike that version of hey pretty so i figured i'd save my $. love rasputina! they seem to be getting active again...woo. Steve. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:38:27 -0700 From: "*~* Melissa *~*" Subject: Re: NPR first and last cd Sneakerpimps are awesome! I have to say my favorite song on that album is "spin spin sugar"...very hot song! Keep rocking our lady POE, Melissa _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:28:54 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: ATTN: Dean . Something For You From Poe. Dean drop me a line. sp00k etc ... Http://Poe.Org Http://DigitalSter.Com ================================ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:15:37 -0700 From: "*~* Melissa *~*" Subject: PR: Lyrics request Does someone have the lyrics to "Could've Gone Mad" that they could send me...I really wish Polishchick was back in service...I feel so...lost... Thanks in advance, Melissa _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:56:18 EDT From: TerraTrepe@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe time Oh I agree, as I'm sure many others do. Not that I exactly wake up in the night craving Poe, but there's something about her music that definitely makes me feel better, and the fact that her lyrics sometimes express exactly how I'm feeling at the time just puts me more at ease. She helped me through a somewhat angsty depressive beginning of the year, and got me through midterms and finals. :) Yes. Poe is cool. Heh. ~Chesney >>Have you ever woken up in the middle of the night, not sweaty and panicked, but perfectly calm, and thinking to yourself "I need Poe". It happened to me again last night. So instead of getting out of bed and slinking off to the kitchen for a sandwich, I listened to Haunted until I fell asleep again. It must be therapeutic because I often find myself doing this. It's always either Poe or Lisa Ekdahl. Now, I wouldn't say I'm obsessed, but I would say that Poe solves a lot of problems. Not the kind of problems guns solve, or even money, but bigger ones, like when I'm not sure I like what time of day it is, or when I'm feeling lonely and nobody around gives a shit. Just a little Poe and I'm on my way to feeling like I'm going to do something worthwhile! And I usually do too! Just the other day, 'Angry Johnny' inspired me to write a new story, just a short one, but I thought it was better than most of my writing. I just thought I'd throw this in because I know you guys and girls would appreciate what it means. Yeah, I really do need Poe. Heh Any of you out there in Salt Lake City? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:16:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.R. Jobe" Subject: NPR: Belief quiz... Liberal Quaker?!?!?! - ---When I first read that, I cracked up. Me a Liberal Quaker? But their beliefs are almost identical to my own. Wow. - ---Jobe Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:55:21 -0800 From: cthulhu9@ucla.edu Subject: RE: Re: NPR belief-o-Matic EVERYONES A NEO-PAGAN?!? Brenda's results prove the complete stupidity of the quiz and show that it has no validity at all. How in the hell can someone be 100% reform Judaism and 95% Neo-Pagan. The fundamental and basic tenet of any type of Judaism is the beleif in ONE GOD!!! How can someone undoubtably beleive one God and be pagan? Absolutely absurd. Joel - ---Original Message---- After sending my original email, I realized I forgot to include my own results. My top match was Reform Judaism at 100%, followed by Neo-Paganism at 95%, Sikhism at 83%, New Age at 80% and Unitarian Universalism at 79%. At the bottom of my list was Roman Catholic at 21% I'm curious as to whether Reform Judaism also includes Kaballah (sp?), which was in the news a lot a few years ago when Madonna got involved. I'll have to do some more reading on this on to figure it all out! - -brendles- - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 2:22 PM Subject: belief-o-MaticEVERYONES A NEO-PAGAN?!? > > Ok...so far...practically ALL of the results I've seen on this mailing list > have said that there 100% neo-pagan. Wuts up w/ this?!? Then I took the quiz > AND I got 100% neo pagan as well?!? Is that just the most vague one or is it > just a patten in the philosophies of poe fans?!?!? > > > ~Gypsy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:05:41 -0800 From: cthulhu9@ucla.edu Subject: RE: NPR: some call me a space cowboy, so worship me. Guide is fine for religion. And the tone of my email was meant to a critical reflection, not anger. I have no problem with people figuring things out. The quiz is bad because people who do need guidance are believing that what the quiz says is true. But the results are complete nonsense. How can I have 100% compatability with jews and 95% with neo-pagans. It doesn't make any sense. My annoyance is not at the quiz really, but peoples willingness to accept results from a 20 question test as valid. Religion is too life changing to be summed up like that without question. If you really want a good look at religion, look at the book, The World's Religions by Houston Smith. Joel - ---Original Message---- Joel, calm down. The test isn't to say that "you have to be neo-pagan because it comes out saying you're at 100%". It even says that you won't necessarily believe everything in the religion that it categorizes you in. I believe that this test was more of a guide, in that for people that don't know where to go, they can take this test, realize that there are others who might, and I stress MIGHT, have the same thoughts about the world as they do. Crap, Liberal Quaker was in my top three, and I've never even considered that before I took this test. If you took the time to read the descriptions of the religions, it says things like "most beieve..." or "some believe..." for all of them. So calm down, and realize that the test is just a tool for those who might not have as good a grasp on their life as you. I applaud you for having figured out your life so well, but some of us need a little more guidance. I'd just about given up on organized religion, and this test made me pause, and think a bit harder about that decision. Just something to think about. adam > No, the problem is that the quiz is complete and > utter bullshit. It fails to take into account the > fact that American society has become very much like > asain societies spiritually. In asia, a person > borrows a little from Confucious, a little from > Taoism, a little from Buddhism, a little from > christianity, and structures a way to live life. Now > in America, where we openly accept all forms of > worship and even learn about them, we have become > the same thing. I for example am a lot of Jewish, > some Buddhist, a little bit of Christian and a bunch > of confuscianism with a basic tendency toward > athiest exstentialism. Today this is possible. > Because of this and the diversity of beleif, the > stupid quiz says we all must be polythiestic or > pagan. It told me I'm Pagan and universal whatever, > but I am agnostic with the beleif that if there IS a > diety than it is that of the Jewish ideal, all good, > all powerful, one and only one, but staying out of > our personal lives because of free will. his ! > ! > quiz is trash and is not applicable to modern > society. We have a completely new spirituality about > us that cannot be put into categories. Of course > there are exceptions and a lot of people consider > themselves fully Christian or whatever, but I'll bet > there are a bunch of conflicting beleifs within > them. > > anyways I love religion so sorry for rambling, > Joel Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:07:32 -0800 From: cthulhu9@ucla.edu Subject: RE: Re: replies In that case, tossing the salad would cause me to toss my cookies. - ---Original Message---- >and then...about the holding your breath for pleasure letter: i've heard it >called "tossing the salad" before and it IS very very dangerous. i would >stay away from it. it could kill you. > You certainly may want to hold your breath before "tossing someone's salad", but I think it means something different. I'm pretty sure that salad tossing refers to eating out someone's butthole. I believe a synonymn would be rimjob. Mike (I have no idea why I know this...) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:10:12 -0800 From: cthulhu9@ucla.edu Subject: RE: Re: NPR: some call me a space cowboy, so worship me. There is no such thing as a Jewish Pagan. You might be a moral pagan and may read the bible, but almost everything in Judaism stems from the belief in one god. Unless you are talking about yourself in terms of race, you can't be both. - ---Original Message---- In a message dated 7/24/01 10:08:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, adam_neubauer@yahoo.com writes: > ". It even says that you won't necessarily believe > everything in the religion that it categorizes you in. > Good thing cause I am a jewish pagan and i got; 1. Liberal Protestant (100%) http://www.beliefnet.com/story/80/story_8028_1.html" target="_new LOL...Um, no......I am not;) at least i got 99% neo pagan as number two! Shari ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:21:41 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR belief-o-Matic EVERYONES A NEO-PAGAN?!? In a message dated 7/25/2001 3:01:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cthulhu9@ucla.edu writes: > Brenda's results prove the complete stupidity of the quiz and show that it > has no validity at all. How in the hell can someone be 100% reform Judaism > and 95% Neo-Pagan. The fundamental and basic tenet of any type of Judaism > is the beleif in ONE GOD!!! How can someone undoubtably beleive one God and > be pagan? Absolutely absurd. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hey, the Jews were polytheistic before the one God thing got going...and > many pagans are monotheistic. In fact, much of the belief system of early > Judaism was shared with the pagans that surrounded them...except for the > part about Jews being "The Chosen People". After some serious ass-kicking, > some of the pagans accepted that idea too...heh, heh. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:26:46 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: some call me a space cowboy, so worship me. In a message dated 7/25/2001 3:21:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cthulhu9@ucla.edu writes: > There is no such thing as a Jewish Pagan. You might be a moral pagan and may > read the bible, but almost everything in Judaism stems from the belief in > one god. Unless you are talking about yourself in terms of race, you can't > be both. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > This is true, not because of the one God thing (not all pagans are > polytheistic), but because the term pagan means, literally, "a country > dweller"...it is the Latin version of the term Jews used to describe "the > heathen", the unclean, the uncircumcised (non-Jewish in other words) > people. Any non-Jew (and by extension, non-Christian) is a pagan. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:28:55 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: some call me a space cowboy, so worship me. In a message dated 7/25/2001 3:22:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cthulhu9@ucla.edu writes: > Guide is fine for religion. And the tone of my email was meant to a critical > reflection, not anger. I have no problem with people figuring things out. > The quiz is bad because people who do need guidance are believing that what > the quiz says is true. But the results are complete nonsense. How can I > have 100% compatability with jews and 95% with neo-pagans. It doesn't make > any sense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Was the compatability with "Reform" or "Orthodox" Judaism? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:31:36 -0400 From: Elliot Dale Subject: NPR - Well it's nice to see I'm not the only Unitarian POE fan Really, it is. I've been attending regularly since, oh, about 1995, 1996. My church is one of the oldest congregations; it was one of the first outside of Boston (the religion as an organization has deep roots in New England). I don't really understand what Claire was writing (spelling the title a little more correctly would've helped :o ), but Liz described it about dead on. No one's really gone over the roots, so I think I'll do a crash course for anyone who cares: Unitarianism actually started with the Puritans in New England. They were involved in a schism whose basic idea was the question: Why can't everyone get into Heaven? Why do we have to have an 'elect' group of people? Through out the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, mostly the elite of Boston would attend. Universalism, however, has most of its roots in the transendentalist movement of the mid-eightteen hundreds. The two ogranizations merged in 1964 (quite recently, which is why many doubt the legitimacy of ours being a 'church'), since they were very similar in beliefs. It was around this time that the Unitarian 'elite' (as many historians refer to them) stopped attending when the floodgates opened to the hippies. Today, it is a rather small organization of approximately a quarter of a million members, most of them still in New England, with churches all over the continent. If anyone has any questions, e-mail Liz or I. And feel free to correct me if I missed any details. Peace, love, & chocolate chip cookies you guys, - ---ellliot ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:39:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Neubauer Subject: NPR: It's all in how you use it. Straight from beliefnet.com: Neo-Paganism --  Belief in Deity Some believe in a Supreme Being. Many believe in God and Goddess--a duality. Many believe there are countless spirit beings, gods and goddesses, in the cosmos and within all of nature--God is all and within all; all are one God. The Great Mother Earth, or Mother Nature, is highly worshipped. Divinity is immanent and may become manifest within anyone at any time through various methods. Reform Judiasm --  Belief in Deity Beliefs vary among adherents, including that of nonbelief or questioning belief, and all are welcome and considered personal, but the official stance is that there is one God Almighty--Creator, all-powerful, ever-present, and all knowing--formless, incorporeal spirit. So, according to beliefnet.com, it is possible to have a score of whatever, and have two religions that appear fundamentally different, yet aren't. I believe that Brenda's results justify the quiz, as you stated in your last email. We, as a country, have a large panopoly of bliefs, bringing in different tenents of faith to create whatever suits us best. So yes, it is possible to be Neo-Pagan and Reform Judiasm, as I believe Brenda is neither. Break down your typifications and set yourself free. That was corny, I know, but man, you're showing too much emotion for a quiz that's supposed to help. If it doesn't help you fine, but it might help some people, so let it go. Just let it go, man. (Repeated for dramatic effect.) adam - --- cthulhu9@ucla.edu wrote: > > Brenda's results prove the complete stupidity of the > quiz and show that it has no validity at all. How in > the hell can someone be 100% reform Judaism and 95% > Neo-Pagan. The fundamental and basic tenet of any > type of Judaism is the beleif in ONE GOD!!! How can > someone undoubtably beleive one God and be pagan? > Absolutely absurd. > Joel Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:38:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Neubauer Subject: NPR: It's all in how you use it. Straight from beliefnet.com: Neo-Paganism --  Belief in Deity Some believe in a Supreme Being. Many believe in God and Goddess--a duality. Many believe there are countless spirit beings, gods and goddesses, in the cosmos and within all of nature--God is all and within all; all are one God. The Great Mother Earth, or Mother Nature, is highly worshipped. Divinity is immanent and may become manifest within anyone at any time through various methods. Reform Judiasm --  Belief in Deity Beliefs vary among adherents, including that of nonbelief or questioning belief, and all are welcome and considered personal, but the official stance is that there is one God Almighty--Creator, all-powerful, ever-present, and all knowing--formless, incorporeal spirit. So, according to beliefnet.com, it is possible to have a score of whatever, and have two religions that appear fundamentally different, yet aren't. I believe that Brenda's results justify the quiz, as you stated in your last email. We, as a country, have a large panopoly of bliefs, bringing in different tenents of faith to create whatever suits us best. So yes, it is possible to be Neo-Pagan and Reform Judiasm, as I believe Brenda is neither. Break down your typifications and set yourself free. That was corny, I know, but man, you're showing too much emotion for a quiz that's supposed to help. If it doesn't help you fine, but it might help some people, so let it go. Just let it go, man. (Repeated for dramatic effect.) adam - --- cthulhu9@ucla.edu wrote: > > Brenda's results prove the complete stupidity of the > quiz and show that it has no validity at all. How in > the hell can someone be 100% reform Judaism and 95% > Neo-Pagan. The fundamental and basic tenet of any > type of Judaism is the beleif in ONE GOD!!! How can > someone undoubtably beleive one God and be pagan? > Absolutely absurd. > Joel Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:56:49 -0600 From: "Robert A Darke" Subject: Re: NPR All my firsts... Here's a little peak into the history of one Mr. Rob Darke... hehe. First tape: Debbie Gibson "Out of the Blue" First CD: Anthrax "State of Euphoria" Last tape: God knows... heheh. Although I think it was probably Samhain's "Final Decent" Last CD: Madonna "What it Feels Like For A Girl" single First time: age 15 First time I ate Macaroni & cheese: age 16 First time with the right gender: age 17 First time I watched a horror movie: age 18 Wow. There you go. Undeniable proof that eating macaroni and cheese makes you gay. The numbers don't lie. 8-) Sorry folks, just in a goofy, giddy mood. heheh. Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:57:52 -0400 From: "Brian Brantley" Subject: Re: Re: replies How in the hell did we digress to this...........;) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:07 PM Subject: RE: Re: replies In that case, tossing the salad would cause me to toss my cookies. - ---Original Message---- >and then...about the holding your breath for pleasure letter: i've heard it >called "tossing the salad" before and it IS very very dangerous. i would >stay away from it. it could kill you. > You certainly may want to hold your breath before "tossing someone's salad", but I think it means something different. I'm pretty sure that salad tossing refers to eating out someone's butthole. I believe a synonymn would be rimjob. Mike (I have no idea why I know this...) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:58:22 -0600 From: "Robert A Darke" Subject: Re: NPR: Salads, was Re: replies I believe salad tossing is the exact act of eating FOOD out of someone's ass. Wow. This subject also took me completely by surprise. 8-) Rob From: "Matt Latham" @smoe.org on 07/25/2001 06:47 AM AST Sent by: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org To: mr.eagle@pobox.com, "Angry Psychos" cc: Subject: NPR: Salads, was Re: replies holding your breath for sexual pleasure = erotic asphyxiation. Oprah did a whole show on auto-erotic asphyxiation, which was pleasuring onesself while holding your breath (or finding a way to block it). It is very dangerous. Some rock star died of it in the late 80s/early 90s I think. Salad tossing, on the other hand... well, safe sex rules apply. And hope that the person whose salad you're tossing doesn't pass gas while you're down there. Oh good lord. I can't believe I'm even talking about this. ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:37:50 -0800 From: "Joel" Subject: RE: Re: NPR: Salads, was Re: replies I got this from an online sex dictionary: http://starmax.macsol.ca:2345/dict/sex-lexicon.html toss a salad Or: toss the salad, in gay parlance: 1. To perform oral-anal sex for the pleasure of it or as a prelude to anal copulation. A saying by practitioners of oral-anal sex: 'Once you've got past the smell, you have it licked'. See anilingus for synonyms. 2. To engage in anal intercourse. Could you toss my salad, honey? See anal copulation for synonyms. 3. A rude insult synonymous in meaning with Kiss my ass! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:50:00 EDT From: EXej@aol.com Subject: Re: Portland Music Millennium- flyers!!! Actually I have new flyers with Polishchick.com edited out of them... I shall be putting them up in place of the ones currently at http://houseofleaves.4t.com/house.html momentarily. Erik - --------------- Going to see Poe and Depeche Mode on tour this summer? Be sure to visit http://houseofleaves.4t.com/house.html for great info and join the list of Psychos going to see POE at http://houseofleaves.4t.com/house2.html Wanna be there for the soundcheck? Find out how you can win a chance to get in at the above links! This message is a Public Service Announcement brought to you by ShellE Productions. For more information, including the Poe discography, the Idiot's Guide to the House of Leaves and lots of other amazing material, check out www.shelle.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:04:35 EDT From: PoeKittie@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #322 Ok, ok, I figured if everyone is confessing these big embarassing first concerts..mine was New Kids with Tommy page opening!! Boy oh boy..what a night!! :) luhv~n~stuff Carri Mine wasnt all that embarassing. I was in 8th grade,round 98' was Videodrone/Orgy. I was in love w/ Jay from Orgy at the time which my bro took me to as a b-day present from my family (turned 14 at the time). Really nifty concert. Havent been to one since,mainly cause I never have any money and\or can't get a ride to it. But hey someday I may beable to see Poe :) - -Jana- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:18:44 -0800 From: "Joellercoaster of Love" Subject: concerts Just to be annoying: What was the best concert you've attended, besides Poe of course. Mine would either be Rammstein (massive pyroteknics + heavy music + prosthetic penises = good fun) or Boston (Tom Scholz playing Toccota and Fugue in D minor on an organ that made up the entire back of the stage). Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:13:59 -0400 From: "Brian Brantley" Subject: Re: Re: NPR: Salads, was Re: replies Ok.....now this is just too much information!!!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:37 PM Subject: RE: Re: NPR: Salads, was Re: replies I got this from an online sex dictionary: http://starmax.macsol.ca:2345/dict/sex-lexicon.html toss a salad Or: toss the salad, in gay parlance: 1. To perform oral-anal sex for the pleasure of it or as a prelude to anal copulation. A saying by practitioners of oral-anal sex: 'Once you've got past the smell, you have it licked'. See anilingus for synonyms. 2. To engage in anal intercourse. Could you toss my salad, honey? See anal copulation for synonyms. 3. A rude insult synonymous in meaning with Kiss my ass! ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #323 ***********************************