From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #305 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Wednesday, July 18 2001 Volume 06 : Number 305 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Dallas Concert Mini review... [Talk2Bill@aol.com] *NPR* Agnosticism (was: Pagans...) ["bad bender" ] NPR: Re: to the americans on the list... ["Bad KiTTiE" Subject: *NPR* Agnosticism (was: Pagans...) I know everything, I just can't remember it all at once! "Mediocrity thrives on standardization." - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 10:45 PM Subject: Re: *NPR* Agnosticism (was: Pagans...) > > In a message dated 7/17/2001 11:28:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Shadow123@rocketmail.com writes: > > > > They all come together with the > > idea/knowledge/belief/whatever-you'd-like-to-call-it > > that no one really has all (or even any) of the > > answers; not one religion/person/group knows anything > > for sure. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Well...I, for one, happen to know everything. I am also a god. I believe > > several other OAPs fall into this same general category too:-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 01:18:57 -0400 From: "Bad KiTTiE" Subject: NPR: Re: to the americans on the list... Bash the president all you want, but when you call my fellow Americans and I ignorant, you're asking for it: Firstly, and as Joshua Panther has already pointed out, Britain isn't exactly the most respectable country as far as conquest and domination goes, either... so learn a bit more history before going there about America. <<<"for one thing. THe world isnt populated with english speaking ppl b/c of you. It is because of the BRITISH invasions!">>> ~And who said it WAS America's doing? I didn't catch that initial convo, I suppose. <<<"Christmas is a very old christian celebration as a result of the birth of christ. Not americans. Americans turned it into a pathetic commercial scam so that retail outlets could make more money.">>> ~Oh, did we? It's ALL our faults, right? Good.. then I don't want to EVER hear of British people putting up Christmas trees, believing in Santa Claus or singing 'Rudolph The Rednose Reindeer" again. Ever. <<<"I am not saying this is a result of all americans...">>> ~Nooooooo, of COURSE you're not! Because THAT might then make you sound small-minded and you NEVER sound small-minded, right? Just like you never bash the United States... <<<"i just think concete and ignorance are things to be left at the door.">>> ~Actually, it's spelled "CONCEIT", but you'll say you knew that before I did because we stole the dictionary from the British too, or something to that lame effect. <<<"And every country in the world does not want to be you.">>> ~Riiight, whoever said this.. I must say.. is a LIIITTLE too proud of America... but yes, I love my country. <<<"You stole latin music, carribean music, classical, pop, indian... etc.">>> ~ We stole nothing.. like Joshua said, they came to party and brought their music! Our nation was founded by immigrants and that legacy has never ceased... we have so many different people of different backgrounds that it was INEVITABLE that all these different cultures would emerge and mix... especially music-wise. You're obviously confused when you categorize "AMERICANS". Being AMERICAN is not an ETHNICITY.. it's a NATIONALITY. Like myself... I was born in America, but I am German, Italian, and Puerto Rican. Hence, I listen to latin music sometimes.. and I can do that without "stealing" it or thinking of it as stolen, because it wasn't as if America is entirely white people trying to be ethnic.. we're all diverse. BUT.. being British IS both an ethnicity and a nationality.. (or it can be, that doesn't mean all British ppl are actually decendants of British people), yet another reason our countries differ. Get your definitions and details straightened out, hunny. <<<"I guess pride comes from driving native americans from their homes, killing their buffalo and murdering their children.">>> ~Oh please, and at the time it was the Europeans who did that. Most Americans have absolutely NOTHING to do with about.. what.. 80% of CURRENT Americans. We're all immigrants.. we're not ALL related to the early colonists.. who WERE.. might I add.. mainly EUROPEAN. Blame yourselves, not us. <<<"A country built on commercialism and fake ppl deserves a joke for a president.">>> ~How would you know what we deserve? You're still under the leadership of a MONARCHY. So much for freedom. Don't pretend you're all brilliant independant thinkers when you have no choice in ULTIMATE leaders. (Ruling out of course whatever officials you CAN choose.. I wouldn't know... and unlike SOME people, I'm not even PRETENDING I know.) And FYI - he didn't even win the election, so your comment was unjustified. <<>> ~OOOH, are we? Go back and re-read your remarks in your initial email and then you tell US who sounds chilidish and ignorant. Oh, and on another note? About the music... you seem to have implied that we, as a culture/society, must "STEAL" other peoples' music to create our own? Right.. okay. Well, let's compare musicians from AMERICA to musicians from BRITAIN.... *A*M*E*R*I*C*A* = Bruce Springstein, The Eagles, Stevie Nicks, Jimmi Hendrix, Aerosmith, Michael Jackson, **PoE**, 2/5 of Fleetwood Mac, Bon Jovi, Tom Petty, Garth Brooks, Billy Joel, Bob Dylan, The Doors, JANET Jackson, MADONNA, and.. Elvis. *B*R*I*T*A*I*N* = The Spice Girls, S Club 7, Duran Duran, Culture Club, Wham!, George Michael, The Monkees, Adam Ant, BBMak, Steps, 5ive... No, but seriously... *lol* The last AMERICA vs. BRITIAN music thing was a joke to lighten the mood.. come on, u've got to admit that America has a LOT of legends... Springstein, Aerosmith, The Eagles, Hendrix, the Jacksons, Bob Dylan, Madonna, Billy Joel, Elvis.. all INTERNATIONAL icons. ORIGINAL AMERICAN ARTISTS who went international, too. I realize, yes, that Britain has the likes of great artists (on a serious note, aside from WHAM!, S Club 7, The Spice Grls and George Michael). I mean, you guys have Clapton and Cream, Elton John, Sting and the Police, Queen,.... The BEATLES, for godsakes.. [Although the Beatles DID wind up staying in AMERICA.. hmm.. wonder why.. ;o)] But yeah, let's drop the stupid discussion. One's no better than the other.. we're both great nations, that's why we're ALLIES. Your Puerto Rican/German/Italian Angry Psycho PROUD TO REPRESENT THE RED, WHITE, AND BLUE, ~Joanna Ruiz~ ::sings:: "Oh say can you seeeee, by the dawn's early liiiiiiiight.." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 01:21:30 -0400 From: "Bad KiTTiE" Subject: NPR: Re: to the americans on the list... Bash the president all you want, but when you call my fellow Americans and I ignorant, you're asking for it: Firstly, and as Joshua Panther has already pointed out, Britain isn't exactly the most respectable country as far as conquest and domination goes, either... so learn a bit more history before going there about America. <<<"for one thing. THe world isnt populated with english speaking ppl b/c of you. It is because of the BRITISH invasions!">>> ~And who said it WAS America's doing? I didn't catch that initial convo, I suppose. <<<"Christmas is a very old christian celebration as a result of the birth of christ. Not americans. Americans turned it into a pathetic commercial scam so that retail outlets could make more money.">>> ~Oh, did we? It's ALL our faults, right? Good.. then I don't want to EVER hear of British people putting up Christmas trees, believing in Santa Claus or singing 'Rudolph The Rednose Reindeer" again. Ever. <<<"I am not saying this is a result of all americans...">>> ~Nooooooo, of COURSE you're not! Because THAT might then make you sound small-minded and you NEVER sound small-minded, right? Just like you never bash the United States... <<<"i just think concete and ignorance are things to be left at the door.">>> ~Actually, it's spelled "CONCEIT", but you'll say you knew that before I did because we stole the dictionary from the British too, or something to that lame effect. <<<"And every country in the world does not want to be you.">>> ~Riiight, whoever said this.. I must say.. is a LIIITTLE too proud of America... but yes, I love my country. <<<"You stole latin music, carribean music, classical, pop, indian... etc.">>> ~ We stole nothing.. like Joshua said, they came to party and brought their music! Our nation was founded by immigrants and that legacy has never ceased... we have so many different people of different backgrounds that it was INEVITABLE that all these different cultures would emerge and mix... especially music-wise. You're obviously confused when you categorize "AMERICANS". Being AMERICAN is not an ETHNICITY.. it's a NATIONALITY. Like myself... I was born in America, but I am German, Italian, and Puerto Rican. Hence, I listen to latin music sometimes.. and I can do that without "stealing" it or thinking of it as stolen, because it wasn't as if America is entirely white people trying to be ethnic.. we're all diverse. BUT.. being British IS both an ethnicity and a nationality.. (or it can be, that doesn't mean all British ppl are actually decendants of British people), yet another reason our countries differ. Get your definitions and details straightened out, hunny. <<<"I guess pride comes from driving native americans from their homes, killing their buffalo and murdering their children.">>> ~Oh please, and at the time it was the Europeans who did that. Most Americans have absolutely NOTHING to do with about.. what.. 80% of CURRENT Americans. We're all immigrants.. we're not ALL related to the early colonists.. who WERE.. might I add.. mainly EUROPEAN. Blame yourselves, not us. <<<"A country built on commercialism and fake ppl deserves a joke for a president.">>> ~How would you know what we deserve? You're still under the leadership of a MONARCHY. So much for freedom. Don't pretend you're all brilliant independant thinkers when you have no choice in ULTIMATE leaders. (Ruling out of course whatever officials you CAN choose.. I wouldn't know... and unlike SOME people, I'm not even PRETENDING I know.) And FYI - he didn't even win the election, so your comment was unjustified. <<>> ~OOOH, are we? Go back and re-read your remarks in your initial email and then you tell US who sounds chilidish and ignorant. Oh, and on another note? About the music... you seem to have implied that we, as a culture/society, must "STEAL" other peoples' music to create our own? Right.. okay. Well, let's compare musicians from AMERICA to musicians from BRITAIN.... *A*M*E*R*I*C*A* = Bruce Springstein, The Eagles, Stevie Nicks, Jimmi Hendrix, Aerosmith, Michael Jackson, **PoE**, 2/5 of Fleetwood Mac, Bon Jovi, Tom Petty, Garth Brooks, Billy Joel, Bob Dylan, The Doors, JANET Jackson, MADONNA, and.. Elvis. *B*R*I*T*A*I*N* = The Spice Girls, S Club 7, Duran Duran, Culture Club, Wham!, George Michael, The Monkees, Adam Ant, BBMak, Steps, 5ive... No, but seriously... *lol* The last AMERICA vs. BRITIAN music thing was a joke to lighten the mood.. come on, u've got to admit that America has a LOT of legends... Springstein, Aerosmith, The Eagles, Hendrix, the Jacksons, Bob Dylan, Madonna, Billy Joel, Elvis.. all INTERNATIONAL icons. ORIGINAL AMERICAN ARTISTS who went international, too. I realize, yes, that Britain has the likes of great artists (on a serious note, aside from WHAM!, S Club 7, The Spice Grls and George Michael). I mean, you guys have Clapton and Cream, Elton John, Sting and the Police, Queen,.... The BEATLES, for godsakes.. [Although the Beatles DID wind up staying in AMERICA.. hmm.. wonder why.. ;o)] But yeah, let's drop the stupid discussion. One's no better than the other.. we're both great nations, that's why we're ALLIES. Your Puerto Rican/German/Italian Angry Psycho PROUD TO REPRESENT THE RED, WHITE, AND BLUE, ~Joanna Ruiz~ ::sings:: "Oh say can you seeeee, by the dawn's early liiiiiiiight.." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 01:24:07 EDT From: VR5SBloom@aol.com Subject: HOL library Q&A in Dallas I'd really like to hear about details from the HOL Q&A in Dallas last Monday! Did anyone get a reader or a toonshirt? What did they wear? ;) Did they just take questions from the audience, or did they go through the questions from e-mail too? - --Michele Open for trades! http://trade.shelle.org/ Got promos, bootlegs, or MP3s of your favorite artist? Feel guilty? Give 'em a tip at http://www.fairtunes.com/ ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #305 ***********************************