From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #259 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Saturday, June 23 2001 Volume 06 : Number 259 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: NPR_turn away now ["Cygnus" ] NPR_turn away nowRe: NPR- Kyoto Conference (flame) ["Bad Bender" ] Re: not a virgin ["Vanessa Miranda" ] Re: Vegas B-Day Party ["Vanessa Miranda" ] Poe trade goodies here!! [Prozackitty16@aol.com] NPR: cd burning [XWhenIGrowUpX@aol.com] PR: Need Help! [Mazzie Starr ] PR: Poe on HBO.. ["Stephen LeFain" ] Re: PR: Poe on HBO.. ["April K. Bucher" ] RE: not a virgin ["Stephen van Vuuren" ] Re: Control - Original vs Haunted versions ["Brian Brantley" ] Out of the loop for the Poe/DM show in Cleveland [Ed Hunsinger ] Re: Control [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR_turn away now [LiveThruThisVow@aol.com] Re: Control - Original vs Haunted versions [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Poe on hot zone [NayNey17@aol.com] Re: Control - Original vs Haunted versions ["Brian Brantley" ] Re: NPR_turn away now [LiveThruThisVow@aol.com] npr: POE photos ["KyL the Paladin" ] what do they sell poe worthy at the concerts? [littleraisingirl ] Re: NPR_turn away nowRe: NPR- Kyoto Conference (flame) [LivTheMdns@aol.co] Poe-wallpaper2 [andrea ] NPR- Be careful ["Bad Bender" ] [NPR] Doctors [Mamcdowell@aol.com] Re: KPR: Cibo Matto [LivTheMdns@aol.com] ftp info for navelsex.com [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Out of the loop for the Poe/DM show in Cleveland [Trueluhv2000@aol.co] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:40:01 -0400 From: "Cygnus" Subject: RE: NPR_turn away now Well put Endorphyne! And Kung-Gene, you remembered Incorrectly.... Damn, I hate when I read these mailbox clogging NPR emails. I know I'll get drug into a pointless argument.. -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Conrad Zimmerman Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:07 AM To: Enzo Molinari Cc: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: NPR_turn away now I'm going to sound like a callous, cold-hearted, self-absorbed jerk by saying this, but: I think all of the environmentalists are correct. To that end, I am proposing that we give environmentalists all throughout this great land of ours the opportunity to prove to the rest of the people how correct they are. The solution? Give them their own country. It's quite simple. Anybody that belongs to an organization (Greenpeace, PETA, Sierra Club, etc.) that believes everybody else is screwing up their world can live in the enviro-nation. People who don't belong to these groups are welcome as well, but may require visas if they are not outspoken enough. You may be asking yourself, "But where, where could such a utopia be built?" My friends, that's the easy answer. We give them the largest group of underpopulated land masses on earth. You guessed it, Antarctica. Once there, the people can live out their greatest fantasies of living without dangerous nuclear power plants or air polluting coal and fossil fuel plants. They can cease concerning themselves with killing animals to eat (especially if they live long enough to realize that they have little option in the matter). Seriously, though, sometimes sacrifices have to be made. I have a feeling that the same environmentalists who are complaining the loudest about the possibility of drilling in Alaska will be the first ones screaming to start the drills when gas prices reach as high as $5-6 a gallon. I don't even drive, and I don't like the current rates. It's damaging to an already present economic slowdown, and that's bad for all of us. Especially those of us in a line of work that offers people something that they will NEVER really NEED. I'm willing to bet that includes all of the "bleeding hearts and artists." - -Endorphyne Enzo Molinari wrote: > > long.... > > So because greenhouse gases will increase anyways, let's just contribute > more to the problem??? How does this solve anything?? That's analogous to > saying, "Hey, everybody produces a lot of trash so why should we cut back??" > - or something to that effect. If everybody said that, where would we be?? > As the population grows, the amount of trash is going to grow, but that > doesn't mean we shouldn't try to limit our own trash output by recycling or > whatnot. Back to the point - the U.S. produces a large fraction of > greenhouse gases, and if you reduce that I don't see how that's bad. The > less greenhouse gases the better, period. > > It sounds like you're saying, [in whiny kid voice] "Hey! They don't have to > do it, why should we??" The point is, just because something isn't > completely beneficial to all parties doesn't mean you shouldn't try to do > what's right. > > Secondly, I find your point about "innovation" being necessary EXTREMELY > funny. You say we need innovation, yet how does supporting the established, > entrenched energy industry (oil, coal - even the myth of "clean coal," and > gas) have anything to do with innovation???? It doesn't! Innovation means > progress forwards, not staying in the same place or moving backwards. I > agree that we need innovation, but the way to that is better cars, like the > Honda Insight, and alternative energy sources - REAL innovation. > > Also, wasn't there a horrible break in the Alaskan pipeline a little while > ago?? Am I remembering correctly?? > > And lastly, I must add I am EXTRAORDINARILY excited about the measures the > House overwhelmingly passed today, preventing drilling off of Florida for at > least 6 months, if not more, preventing the Bush administration from > developing sites in national monument lands, making mining companies > accountable for the environmental damage they create, and scrapping a move > to weaken ground and surface water damage. Looks like our government is > headed in the right direction, for the moment at least.... > > Kung-Gene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:19:21 -0500 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: NPR_turn away nowRe: NPR- Kyoto Conference (flame) No one can know for sure what a deserted area looks like. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Enzo Molinari" To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:23 PM Subject: Re: NPR_turn away nowRe: NPR- Kyoto Conference (flame) We shouldn't stop trying to curb poullution at all. My point was why stick to a plan that places the bulk of the burden on the US? Just because we discarded that agreement doesn't mean we have abandoned the intent on it. A new one needs to be drawn up making it clear that this is a global issuse and not just a US responsibility. This isn't a agrument wether we should pollute or not, it's a matter of makeing progress. If the US held up the accord our economy would be ruined and the air would still be polluted by third world countries. Now what good would that do? As with any elected official if you disagree with them write them, call them, don't vote for them next time around. Keep in mind Bush is just starting out now, Clinton wasn't any better his first 200 days. > long.... > > So because greenhouse gases will increase anyways, let's just contribute > more to the problem??? How does this solve anything?? That's analogous to > saying, "Hey, everybody produces a lot of trash so why should we cut back??" > - or something to that effect. If everybody said that, where would we be?? > As the population grows, the amount of trash is going to grow, but that > doesn't mean we shouldn't try to limit our own trash output by recycling or > whatnot. Back to the point - the U.S. produces a large fraction of > greenhouse gases, and if you reduce that I don't see how that's bad. The > less greenhouse gases the better, period. > > It sounds like you're saying, [in whiny kid voice] "Hey! They don't have to > do it, why should we??" The point is, just because something isn't > completely beneficial to all parties doesn't mean you shouldn't try to do > what's right. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:28:16 -0000 From: "Vanessa Miranda" Subject: Re: Vegas B-Day Party >From: "The Little Indian Girl that Hails Saltines" > >To: plexor@dhp.com, Prozackitty16@aol.com >CC: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Vegas B-Day Party >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:21:59 -0000 > > >Another problem with this idea is, of course, what about those of us who >don't/won't drink? Or am I the only one? lol.I mean, I don't mind if others >do...but like, I hope this doesn't end up a party full of drunk people or I >will get bored. Although watching everyone be drunk could be fun...as long >as no one throws up. hehe. >~Ani > > >>From: plexor >>To: Prozackitty16@aol.com >>CC: angry-psychos@smoe.org >>Subject: Re: Vegas B-Day Party >>Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:39:59 -0400 (EDT) >> >> >>thats probably a nice idea, but due to liability of the 21+ maybe not such >>a good idea :) I know that as an underager in vegas its not all that fun >>but I imagine that those that want to drink can, butttttt this can't be a >>sanctioned event. I plan to be there and have a good time either which >>way it goes >> >>On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 Prozackitty16@aol.com wrote: >> >> > >> > Why dont we all just rent a huge sweet and then buy some alchohol and >>that >> > way those who want to drink dac and we donr have to worry about carding >>or >> > anything and we xan just have our own little party!!! >> > >> > >> > ~Gypsy I dont drink anymore either but i love to watch ppl get drunk cuz theyre sooo funny! anywayz, dont worry you wont be alone : ) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:44:45 -0000 From: "Vanessa Miranda" Subject: Re: not a virgin >From: Ducky015@aol.com >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: not a virgin >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:21:21 EDT > > >im new to the aps... and i was just wondering what you guys think poe was >trying to say in the song "not a virgin" i think its kind of an independent >feminist thing but i could have missed the meaning completely. i was just >curios!!! Well my mom and I were listening to it and she thought it might have been kind of and in your face thing to her father cuz he waas so controling _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:55:17 -0000 From: "Vanessa Miranda" Subject: Re: Vegas B-Day Party >>From: Brandon Wilson >>To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >>Subject: Re: Vegas B-Day Party >>Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:58:43 -0500 >> >> >>Ahh common, what ever happened to sex drugs and rock & roll. And for the >>record I'm 19. People just can't party anymore. >> >>Supernaught Brandon. Well the quote that you put is sex drugs and rock & roll and those things are all fine and dandy but no where in that does it state alcohol : ) everything else is fine _________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:14:22 EDT From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: Poe trade goodies here!! Hiya'! I have a bunch of hard to find POE stuff here!! I'm on the look out for other rareities so if you'd like anything that I have listed here PLEASE feel free to email me w/ what you have to trade. THANX!! (I'm especially looking for any TV appearances) ~ Poe LIVE on Jay Leno Show VHS ~ Poe Hey Pretty MUSIC VIDEO(an official copy, not home taped!!) ~ 4 mixes of Trigger Happy Jack ~ 5 mixes of Hello ~ 4 mixes of ANGRY JOHNNY SINGLES: ~ Today ~ Roses is Rose ~ Hey Pretty remix These are just the things I can think of now and that I can make copies of. Since I'm getting alot of requests for trades I do need to look out for my best interests(as well as my coin purse) and if I dont think a trade is fair(especially since VHS's are a pain in the ass to copy, but for the right trade I'll do it!!) or I'm not interested...I'll say so. Don't mean to sound harsh but I just got to watch out for all the shiping costs. E~MAIL ME W/ ANY TRADE SUGGESTIONS AND HAPPY TRADING!!!!! ;^) ~Gypsy POE ROX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:37:57 EDT From: XWhenIGrowUpX@aol.com Subject: NPR: cd burning hey there... new to the list... well, actually, just this screen name is new... i need a bit of help. i was wondering if anyone knows of some good cd burning software that will let me make a cd without gaps in between the songs. so i could have like a mix cd with continuous music. know what i mean? any help would be appreciated... thanx - -reg from SAN ANTONIO ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:16:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mazzie Starr Subject: PR: Need Help! My friends and I are planning on going to RI from Boston to see Poe play in RI, but we need help finding our way. Could someone please tell me where Indie Point Park is. Wel'll probably be taking the Greyhound Bus into Providence - so any directions from that point on will be appreciated. Thanks. WHY DO WE CRUCIFY OURSELVES? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:09:37 -0500 From: "Stephen LeFain" Subject: PR: Poe on HBO.. I flipped on HBO last night at just the right time. There is some sort of documentary about strippers that was using "Fingertips" off the Hello album. They played the song while some stripper gave a lap dance to another woman, kinda fitting I guess. Freaked the hell out of me. I have to wonder what other obscure shows have picked up on Poe for their soundtracks (other than Spyder Games). BrianM _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:37:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "April K. Bucher" Subject: Re: PR: Poe on HBO.. G-String Divas...heh...i saw it too! ~April =) Stephen LeFain wrote: I flipped on HBO last night at just the right time. There is some sort of documentary about strippers that was using "Fingertips" off the Hello album. They played the song while some stripper gave a lap dance to another woman, kinda fitting I guess. Freaked the hell out of me. I have to wonder what other obscure shows have picked up on Poe for their soundtracks (other than Spyder Games). BrianM _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:11:00 -0400 From: "Stephen van Vuuren" Subject: RE: not a virgin Actually you right - in the launch.com chat several months ago, Poe said it was directed to her dad in just that way (think someone has the transcript of that chat archived somewhere). stephen www.xiveren.com "But you know something? Sometimes you have to break the rules to free your heart." - -Homer Simpson - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Vanessa Miranda Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 2:45 AM To: Ducky015@aol.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: not a virgin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:34:01 -0400 From: "Brian Brantley" Subject: Re: Control - Original vs Haunted versions Can someone post this version on poe.navelsex.com so that the rest of us can check it out? It sounds like a really cool version. Thanks - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Grimm" To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 5:41 PM Subject: Control - Original vs Haunted versions The original version of control was much darker than the one that ended up on Haunted. I actually have it. It was the version that ended up on the Apocalypse game for Playstation. It has a 1998 copyright on it, so technically the version on Haunted would be the remix. But if you listen, the version on Haunted actually has an additional verse. Another interesting note from a conversation I had with Poe back in 97 at the show she played in Richmond VA. Control was actually slated to be on the Batman and Robin soundtrack. However when they were going through the cut, appearently the song was, "too dark for Gotham." Which just explains how much that movie and the subsequent soundtrack sucked. Anyway, that's all the info I have on Control. Allan "The Reaper" Joshua Panther wrote: > So I'm at Goth Night in Bowling Green, Ohio last night and I'm sitting there > nursing my Crown Royal and Coke when a song that sounds suspiciously like > "Control" starts. Except it's like nothing like the version that's on > Haunted. I asked the DJ about it and he said it's the only version of the > song he owns (he doesn't have Haunted) and he got it online. It pretty much > sounds like your typical dance remix. Anyone know anything about it? > > Joshua Panther > > "It's beyond my control." -Valmont ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:56:50 -0400 From: andrea Subject: Re: Pink Haunted CD I have the original CD (black and white, sticker says: Includes "Wild" and from the film Blair Witch 2 "Haunted"), but the new Hey Pretty track (#18) with 2 mins of dead air between 17 and 18 is on that CD.... The other difference I noticed while skimming through the CD section at the mall was that some haunted CDs say: Hau`nted, pple. a. [f. HAUNT v. + -ED.] on the front/left spine thingy (does that have a name?). On other CDs you can just see the green page with the thank-yous... is that one the pink CD and the other the white? Ignore me if i don't make sense... it's been a looong day... - -Andrea - ----- Original Message ----- > To the best of my knowlegde: > > Original CD has a sticker on the front that says includes "Wild" and from > the film Blair Witch 2 "Haunted" - The original CD is black and white > > An 18th track was released recently on the Haunted CD: > The newer CD has a sticker on the front that says The new album haunted > includes "Hey Pretty" (drive-by 2001 mix) and "Wild". The new Hey Pretty is > track 18 with 2 mins of dead air between 17 and 18.... > The newer CD is red and white (pink) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:41:10 -0400 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: Out of the loop for the Poe/DM show in Cleveland Alright guys, apparently I fell out of the loop at some point for the organizing of the show in Cleveland. My gf moved in with me last weeked and we've been kind of busy this week. Anyways, I'm planning on hitting the brunch as well as the show and the afterparty. I'm not sure what I'm wearing, but it'll be poe related most likely (unfortunately my old school ap shirt from richmond is several states away. :( But anyways, just in case I don't make it on all these lists, see some of you guys there... Ed Hunsinger (740)587-9187 ed@poe.org AIM: ied33i ICQ: 15667748 http://ed.hunsinger.org http://www.screamradio.net http://listen.to/wdub http://poe.navelsex.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:49:43 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: NPR: John Lee Hooker Friday June 22 10:38 AM ET Bluesman John Lee Hooker Dies at 83 By KIM CURTIS, Associated Press Writer SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - For six decades, John Lee Hooker's rich sonorous voice coupled with a brooding rhythmic guitar inspired countless musicians and electrified audiences with songs like ``Boom Boom'' and ``Boogie Chillen.'' The legendary bluesman from the Mississippi Delta sang of loneliness and confusion. Neither polished nor urbane, his music was raw, primal emotion - and remained hypnotic and unchanged throughout his career. CLICK BELOW for full story http://music.yahoo.com/fc/YMusic/John_Lee_Hooker/ LISTEN For a Tribute THIS SUNDAY via WITR Rochester Institute of Technology http://www.modernmusicandmore.com/ 10:00 am (1400) Bad Dog Blues Playing the best blues from the 20's through the 90's. Bringing everything from Barrelhouse to piano searing electric blues 11:00 am (1500) 12:00 pm (1600) 1:00 pm (1700) 2:00 pm (1800) 3:00 pm (1900) A Whole Lotta Shakin Playing high energy, good time rock n' roll from the 50's to today. 4:00 pm (2000) 5:00 pm (2100) 6:00 pm (2200) Http://Walk.To/TheAve ================================ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:11:50 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Control In a message dated 6/22/2001 1:46:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, buggsprstr0@hotmail.com writes: > where can i get that copy of control? if you have aim can you send it to me? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Index of /POE at navelsex http://poe.navelsex.com/POE/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:26:37 EDT From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR_turn away now In a message dated 6/22/01 12:47:07 AM Central Daylight Time, cygnus@cinci.rr.com writes: > Damn, I hate when I read these mailbox clogging NPR emails. I know I'll get > drug into a pointless argument.. > Well umm from what I remember, the person who sent this first was someone who shared your same opinion. So if you don't like NPR emails, either filter them out like a smart boy or shut your pie hole. ~*~ What*Would*Joan*Jett*Do? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:27:16 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Control - Original vs Haunted versions In a message dated 6/22/2001 10:59:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rbbrantley@steelspaninc.com writes: > Can someone post this version on poe.navelsex.com so that the rest of us can > check it out? It sounds like a really cool version. > > Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:11:34 EDT From: NayNey17@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe on hot zone For those who missed Hot Zone Poe said that she recorded 2 songs with Delerium. I cant wait untill the songs come out!!!! I love what he did with sarah. Renee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:22:33 -0400 From: "Brian Brantley" Subject: Re: Control - Original vs Haunted versions There is a live version of it there. I was wondering if anyone had the studio version. ----- Original Message ----- From: KrodKnid@aol.com To: rbbrantley@steelspaninc.com ; angry-psychos@smoe.org Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Control - Original vs Haunted versions In a message dated 6/22/2001 10:59:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rbbrantley@steelspaninc.com writes: Can someone post this version on poe.navelsex.com so that the rest of us can check it out? It sounds like a really cool version. Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't already there?It used to be. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:50:03 -0400 From: "Cygnus" Subject: RE: NPR_turn away now I simply wanted to let Endorphyne know that he had a well thought out argument. But instead I get flamed by LiveThruThisVow: Well umm from what I remember, the person who sent this first was someone who shared your same opinion. So if you don't like NPR emails, either filter them out like a smart boy or shut your pie hole. Um, excuse me? Who exactly do you think you are telling another list member to shut your pie hole. If you were able to comprehend what I said, I hate when I read these mailbox clogging NPR emails, and picked out key words in sentences, you would understand that I rarely read NPR emails. But, when I do read them, they usually turn in to pointless arguments. You did the first thing you think of when you read something that doesnt go along with your viewpoint. You flame the other person, attempting to silence their opinion. Well perhaps I should take your advice and just modify it a bit. I will filter out emails only those emails from your address. See, I knew I would get drug into an unnecessary argument Wait, this argument now has a point. We have one member trying to silence another. LiveThruThisVow should re-read his/her welcome letter and really pay attention to the part that says Publicly flaming or insulting someone will result in you being asked to leave the list unless you agree not to engage in insulting other list members.. I apologize to the rest of the list members for this NPR email. ~M - -----Original Message----- From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com [mailto:LiveThruThisVow@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 12:27 PM To: cygnus@cinci.rr.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: NPR_turn away now In a message dated 6/22/01 12:47:07 AM Central Daylight Time, cygnus@cinci.rr.com writes: Damn, I hate when I read these mailbox clogging NPR emails. I know I'll get drug into a pointless argument.. Well umm from what I remember, the person who sent this first was someone who shared your same opinion. So if you don't like NPR emails, either filter them out like a smart boy or shut your pie hole. ~*~ What*Would*Joan*Jett*Do? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:09:58 EDT From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR_turn away now Well maybe I should re-read my welcoming letter along with the rest of many other APs who supposedly flamed someone by giving out their opinion. I would have LOVED to hear what you would have said when one AP told the other, "fuck you lamer." My supposedly insulting letter to you was simply stating that if these arguments were so pointless to you then either delete them or filter them out. And if it were even CLOSE to a flame it was such a light one compared to all of the other flames on this list. There's no need to filter out my emails anyway, because your empty threat is meaningless. I love Poe very much and I love every Angry Psycho, but I hate bullshit. Nice knowin ya APs, I'm out. Peace, MeLissA ~*~ What*Would*Joan*Jett*Do? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:31:22 -0400 From: "KyL the Paladin" Subject: npr: POE photos I was amazed to learn today that in less than 10 days, an incredible number have taken a look at my POE photos... Over 46,800 unique IP hits have been received from all over the world... Forty Six Thousand looking for POE!!!!! All of this an I haven't even submitted to the search engines yet.... I have also added Tara Maclean, No Doubt, Jill Sobule, Jennifer Nettles, Fuel, Foo Fighters, Chantal Kreviazuk and Train to the site. http://www.sirkyl.com/apweb/sirkyl/bandphotos.htm or http://www.angrypsycho.com/apweb/sirkyl/bandphotos.htm Thanks to everyone for their support. Pax, KyL 99X ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:16:53 -0400 From: littleraisingirl Subject: what do they sell poe worthy at the concerts? > hey, anyone who went know? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:07:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "kAte :)" Subject: Re: NPR_turn away nowRe: NPR- Kyoto Conference (flame) BAD BENDER wrote something that i just have to jump in on: Do we want OPEC to always have a > controlling hand in our economy? Every time they decide they want more > money it costs the average American more and more for gas, food, and other > products. If drilling isn't good enough for the environmentalist then what > other ideas do we have at our disposal? We need more power and fuel. well jeez, you could always do what i did. buy a freaking toyota prius. 60-100 mpg and very kind to the environment. not to mention the $2000 tax credit they give you. or you could go the honda insight way, although you'll have to put up with only two doors and only standards. and rough handling. so anyway, there are ways around this, people, besides being slaves to OPEC. thank you for your time. harper ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:16:03 -0000 From: "Mikajin Rei" Subject: NPR: Media Censorship/Marilyn Manson/Columbine/etc... I know this is a little late for my reply, but I wanted to get my voice in regardless. I'm only a couple of days late! ;) So here I go... - ---"Don't get me wrong, I *DO* find this song offensive. It should be. Hell, the song is about Columbine and other school shootings that occured. It says these people who have no voice, "Nobodies", are only heard when they commit some act that is so abhorrent that it garners media attention. And the media then feeds on the incident like a swarm of circling vultures, praying for a pulitzer or an emmy for their coverage. The worst part is that the only reason they go to such lengths to cover these events is because they know we'll watch it." I personally don't find the song offensive, but maybe it is just me as well. I have nothing at all wrong with Marilyn Manson, and especially not his music. I mean, come on, who could be afraid of a guy who has a lunchbox collection. Does nobody realize how /smart/ he really is, either? -But that relates to nearly nothing, so moving on. This song basically does say what the public and society doesn't want to hear in my opinion. Then I quote the email again: - ---"But what scares me is the fact that when somebody says something about it, makes an effort to point out this moral incongruity in our society, the media then just cuts it out and goes on as if nothing was said at all. I think it should frighten all of us." This is the thing that scares me the most. -Or should I say, angers me the most about the media. Being that I live only a few minutes away from Columbine, and was in one of the surrounding schools when it was happening, you'd have no idea how much I've heard about it. It lasted much longer than months after the incident. People talked frequently about it for /years/ after it happened. More recently the flame was ignited when Marilyn Manson came here to tour with OzzFest just yesterday. Can you believe that people were -protesting- at Denver's capital the fact that the concert even /had/ him in it? They wanted the entire thing to be cancelled because he simply was going to make an appearance. So basically I'm coming to what I'm really trying to talk about. Why do people search for something else to blame other than the killers themselves? Why search for a reason /why/ someone felt the need to shoot up the school? It is so dumb to me that people blame the people like Marilyn Manson, or whoever likes his music or anything like that. It is so unfair for Marilyn Manson in particular to be blamed for the shooting, considering that the shooters DID NOT LIKE him or his music. So, I still don't understand how it boils down to the music and the artist. Music will not influence someone to kill people, regardless of the type of music. Dumb, dumb, dumb. - -But I'm not finished, because I've wanted to get my rave out on the whole Columbine thing for so long and still haven't. I don't know if it is the same for other schools or anything, but maybe it is just here since Columbine is so close and everything. People blame /tons/ of things. They blame the parents, music, types of people who are labed as 'Gothic', and even clothes! The Gothic people here, when the incident happened, had a public memorial service of their own to try and point the finger away from them. A huge gathering of the Gothic-type of people tried, but didn't succeed. People want metal detectors as you walk in school doors, more Christian influence in our schools by hanging the ten commandments up (in my opinion, that would only anger people, and if someone /did/ shoot up a school, they'd shoot that first... but I'm not inviting a flame for that comment)... people want clothing types restricted, and no music that is harder to be played publicly. This is all because people are searching for something to blame. We can't wear trenchcoats in school any longer because they may conceal something... nevermind the fact that the people who wore trenchcoats refuse to wear anything else to keep them from the cold (and trenchcoats are expensive!). Only one person in my entire school is exempt from that rule, because he wrote a huge essay to the administration explaining how dumb the dress code for it is. Also, I believe that the two shooters didn't wear trenchcoats either, but I may be mistaken. You can't even say the word gun in school any longer... in my school there was one person who said it just joking around, not even about shooting up a school, and a security guy at our school shoved him against a locker. Yeah, that's going to solve something. Right. :/ Back to the Marilyn Manson protest thing. I wanted to make an appearance and be part of the group that was protesting the protesters! I was at work, so I couldn't, but I wanted to make them see that it was dumb for people to be protesting a concert. What would it solve if Marilyn Manson didn't play at OzzFest? NOTHING. Manson already had enough respect to cancel his concert in Denver right after Columbine, but I think that people have had enough time to get over it and stop trying to ruin Marilyn Manson's career because two people who didn't like him killed a few people at a school. Society needs to open their eyes and see that maybe if you focus more on the teenagers themselves instead of trying to take everything away that had nothing to do with the issue, then maybe things like Columbine wouldn't happen as often in the future. - -Dayl/Rei "Actually I like the way Pete Townshend put it. If some crazy f!?k hears a song and goes to shoot people, then he was a crazy f!?k and would have done it anyway." (Good way of putting it, quoted from a previous post.) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:06:16 EDT From: VR5SBloom@aol.com Subject: Problems with evil security and soundcheck For those of you wondering why the soundcheck situation is messed up: http://www.depeche-mode.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000276.html - --Michele Open for trades! http://trade.shelle.org/ Got promos, bootlegs, or MP3s of your favorite artist? Feel guilty? Give 'em a tip at http://www.fairtunes.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:06:20 EDT From: VR5SBloom@aol.com Subject: Poe on Conan taping?! Hey NEAP wake up! You guys should figure out when Poe will tape her Conan performance, so you can try to go to it! ;) The taping info is here: http://nbctv.nbci.com/conan/ Poe is scheduled to be on Jun 27, but I have no idea if that means 12:35am Tuesday night/early Wednesday morning, 12:35am Wednesday night/early Thursday morning, and I don't know when the taping would be ::P Set your VCRs for both if you want to be safe. - --Michele Open for trades! http://trade.shelle.org/ Got promos, bootlegs, or MP3s of your favorite artist? Feel guilty? Give 'em a tip at http://www.fairtunes.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:11:29 -0700 From: "*~* Melissa *~*" Subject: KPR: Cibo Matto NOT POE RELATED:: I just wanted to recommend the band Cibo Matto to everyone. It's some REALLY good listening. Sort of a funkadelic, hip-hop, jazz and R&B all in one. I'm sure someone else could describe it better than that but that's my best shot! My friend burned me the cd today and I can't stop listening to track 5 "Moonchild". Oh yeah, the album is called "Stereotype A" and if you wanna know more about them check out their website at www.cibomatto.com. POE RELATED:: Something cool...I went to the Cibo Matto message board and one of the people wrote "Poe is awesome" and was asking for more info. on Poe. So of course, I replied and told her about Polishchick, so hopefully we will have a new addition to our *HAPPY* family named "Michelle" shortly... That's all folks...have a good weekend Psychos!!!! Melissa _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:20:52 EDT From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR_turn away nowRe: NPR- Kyoto Conference (flame) Actually it's pretty interesting, I believe that during the last fuel crisis of the 70's, Washington told Detroit to start making cars that were more fuel efficient. Detriot, instead of doing this, which would have pissed off the oil industry, instead started making SUV's like the ford bronco, which counted as trucks and could get away with pulling in 8 miles to the gallon. Pretty soon people will start evolving with cell phones implanted in their hands (although I've threatened to stick the cell phones other places when someone talking on one almost hits me) and we'll have extra long legs so that we can get into our SUV's, which will be 8 feet off the ground, 20 feet long and get 2 miles for every 55 gallon drum of gasoline. Carrying out everything to it's final stupidity, Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:34:58 -0400 From: andrea Subject: Poe-wallpaper2 Here's another one I did in my spare time. I think it came out a little better than the first... hmmm, whadd'ya think? - -Andrea [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of poe-wall2.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:56:30 -0500 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: NPR- Be careful Turn on CNN and watch the news. It's been a while since we have been on such a high state of alert. All US military forces are implementing different threat conditions. In the states it varies from Alpha to Bravo. Over seas it's up to Delta. Our old friend Bin Ladden has a trick up his sleeve and we should all be on the look out. He has stated before that he will kill any American he can, military or civilian. Watch for suspicious activity, packages and people. WE must not let our guard down. Remember Khobar Towers and the USS Cole. Watch your selves and take care. No one can know for sure what a deserted area looks like. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:39:54 EDT From: Mamcdowell@aol.com Subject: [NPR] Doctors Number of physicians in the U.S.: 700,000. Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year: 120,000. Accidental deaths per physician: 0.171 (U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services). Number of gun owners in the U.S.: 80,000,000. Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups): 1,500. Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.0000188. Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners. "FACT: Not everyone has a gun, but everyone has a Doctor." Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets out of hand. Remember: Guns don't kill people, doctors do. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:30:58 EDT From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Re: KPR: Cibo Matto Yea, I'm on the cibo matto mailing list, only I"m under the address of truthdestroyer@aol.com on there. I sent out a message about poe the other day. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:18:40 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: ftp info for navelsex.com Okay, Ed. I need the upload info again, since I reformatted a while back and don't have it anymore. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:12:05 EDT From: Trueluhv2000@aol.com Subject: Re: Out of the loop for the Poe/DM show in Cleveland In a message dated 6/22/01 12:11:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hunsin_e@denison.edu writes: > m not sure what I'm > wearing, but it'll be poe related most likely I have absolutely no POE garb :) am I crazy or what?!?!?! I"ll find something though.. luhv~n~stuff Carri ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #259 ***********************************