From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #258 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Friday, June 22 2001 Volume 06 : Number 258 Today's Subjects: ----------------- tour merchandise ["trent is neither loose nor tight" ] Brunch with Poe in Cleveland [Dan98908@aol.com] Looking for recent MTV appearances [VR5SBloom@aol.com] House Of Blues Bummer [Jezebel144@aol.com] Re: NPR_turn away nowRe: NPR- Kyoto Conference (flame) ["Enzo Molinari" <] Re: poes 35th b-day ["Enzo Molinari" ] Pink Haunted CD [Jezebel144@aol.com] Re: Pink Haunted CD ["Dean Morrison (PolishChick.com)" ] Re: NPR_turn away nowRe: NPR- Kyoto Conference (flame) [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR_turn away now ["Conrad Zimmerman" ] Re: Control ["tom tobin" ] Re: Looking for recent MTV appearances [BluesyBear@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:31:10 -0400 From: "trent is neither loose nor tight" Subject: tour merchandise can anyone who has been to a poe show (w/ depeche mode) tell us what merchandise poe has available? (t-shirts, etc.) "I'm a bad man, I do what I can All hail me" --Veruca Salt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:11:31 EDT From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: NPR Re: Control - Original vs Haunted versions Poe and Moloko on the same CD. That would just be too good. - -Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:21:21 EDT From: Ducky015@aol.com Subject: not a virgin im new to the aps... and i was just wondering what you guys think poe was trying to say in the song "not a virgin" i think its kind of an independent feminist thing but i could have missed the meaning completely. i was just curios!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:43:53 -0400 From: Mark Loit Subject: Poe Breaks Top 10 in Toronto Poe'e Hey Pretty climbs 1 from #11 to #10 this week, thanks to all your votes. Remember to keep voting for Hey Pretty! http://www.edge102.com/edge_nr30.html you now have to fill out all 3 songs. [they changed the rules last week] most peope I have talked to have filled in 2 additional songs from haunted. Thanks again to everyone who voted! Mark [emerladbay] emerladbay@poe.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:52:55 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Brunch with Poe in Cleveland The APs have been invited to join WQAL, Poe, and Cody at a brunch at Shooters on the Water in Cleveland on Sunday at 1:00 PM, the day of the Cleveland show. This replaces the sound check for the APs that has been canceled due to security issues with DM. Anyone wanting to go SHOULD have already notified Erik ( exej@aol.com) as well as Brad (raswirl615@yahoo.com ) or Becky (snugakitn@aol.com). I need first and last names for yourself and anyone coming with you as a guest. Anyone NOT on the list by tommorrow at 5:00 PM will not get in to the brunch!! Sorry the sound check could not be for us ( if you won the Nettwerk Contest you can still go, Jennifer will notify you), but I think you will agree this is better! New York? You should be thinking about your lists as well. I will be announcing the plans for Poe to be with the New York APs after the Cleveland show. If all goes well we should have a better idea what will be happening the rest of the tour after Sunday night. If you need the address for the location of the brunch AFTER you are on the list, contact Becky, Brad, or Erik. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:06:03 EDT From: VR5SBloom@aol.com Subject: Looking for recent MTV appearances Anyone have Poe's appearances from MTV2's 120 Minutes from last Sunday, or Thursday's MTV Hot Zone, on videotape? I have goodies, see my trade list if so ;P - --Michele Open for trades! http://trade.shelle.org/ Got promos, bootlegs, or MP3s of your favorite artist? Feel guilty? Give 'em a tip at http://www.fairtunes.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:22:16 EDT From: Jezebel144@aol.com Subject: House Of Blues Bummer Well, the good news is I got to go to a Poe concert. And, I could even sortof see from where I was standing. I don't what sort of miscommunication or what took place, but I got no guest list treatment and no time to hang out with poe. I was just a regular fan enjoying the beautiful and talented Poe perform. I am happy that I did get to see her again after all these years. It was a really great show. (except for the mean HOB security) Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:23:41 -0400 From: "Enzo Molinari" Subject: Re: NPR_turn away nowRe: NPR- Kyoto Conference (flame) long.... So because greenhouse gases will increase anyways, let's just contribute more to the problem??? How does this solve anything?? That's analogous to saying, "Hey, everybody produces a lot of trash so why should we cut back??" - - or something to that effect. If everybody said that, where would we be?? As the population grows, the amount of trash is going to grow, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to limit our own trash output by recycling or whatnot. Back to the point - the U.S. produces a large fraction of greenhouse gases, and if you reduce that I don't see how that's bad. The less greenhouse gases the better, period. It sounds like you're saying, [in whiny kid voice] "Hey! They don't have to do it, why should we??" The point is, just because something isn't completely beneficial to all parties doesn't mean you shouldn't try to do what's right. Secondly, I find your point about "innovation" being necessary EXTREMELY funny. You say we need innovation, yet how does supporting the established, entrenched energy industry (oil, coal - even the myth of "clean coal," and gas) have anything to do with innovation???? It doesn't! Innovation means progress forwards, not staying in the same place or moving backwards. I agree that we need innovation, but the way to that is better cars, like the Honda Insight, and alternative energy sources - REAL innovation. Also, wasn't there a horrible break in the Alaskan pipeline a little while ago?? Am I remembering correctly?? And lastly, I must add I am EXTRAORDINARILY excited about the measures the House overwhelmingly passed today, preventing drilling off of Florida for at least 6 months, if not more, preventing the Bush administration from developing sites in national monument lands, making mining companies accountable for the environmental damage they create, and scrapping a move to weaken ground and surface water damage. Looks like our government is headed in the right direction, for the moment at least.... Kung-Gene Bad Bender wrote: >In the koyoto accords the US agreed to reduce it's "green house gases" by >7% >from 1990 levels. Most industry and economic leaders agree that this will >force us to raise prices on gasoline,natural gas and add extra taxes to >industries. With most on the world developing countries exempt from the >treaty "green house gases" will increase no matter how much the US tries to >curb our levels. This fact has been proven since the treaty was signed. > >About the debt from other countries. We must be such bad Americans deciding >whether to forgive a debt because it fits our needs while making other >countries pay what they agreed to. I think it is our right and duty to look >out for number one and make sure our interests are at heart. > >I agree the US should be clean up the mess we make. No argument there. We >break it , we bought it. As for drilling Alaska, why not? We've done it >already, remember the Alaskan pipeline? Alaskans get around $2000 from the >state for living in Alaska, can't beat that. There is so much worry that >drilling will kill life in Alaska and some poor salamander will become >extinct. The environmentalists have convinced us that drilling for anything >is bad and will kill the stopped owl. I wonder why when we follow their >ideas and things go wrong we blame the poor guy in office and not the >environmentalists. How can they make false claims and worse case scenarios >and never bite the bullet for being wrong. Dick Cheney was right to say >that >conservation wasn't the way to solve the electricity problem in Cali, that >building more power plants is needed. It's a mathematical certainty that >the >load (power needed) has outpaced the capability of power plants to >produce. >More conservation will only prolong the inevitable requirement to build >more >plants. Conservation only puts a band aid on the situation , what we need >now is innovation. I suggest we gather the hot air being made by the >bush-haters and use it to heat the water that drives the turbines. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:26:14 -0400 From: "Enzo Molinari" Subject: Re: poes 35th b-day The magazing is July 2001, so it's definitely not because of the issue...the article can't be 4 years old as well, because the interview bio mentions "Haunted." Maybe they added that in, though?? I think it would be weird if they sat on that interview for 4 years! But maybe they were waiting for "Haunted??" Hmmmm..... Kung-Gene - ----Original Message Follows---- From: KrodKnid@aol.com To: iceprincess0269@hotmail.com, angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: poes 35th b-day Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 05:40:06 EDT In a message dated 6/21/2001 2:22:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, iceprincess0269@hotmail.com writes: > Hey i was just wonder ing, youre saying that poe is 33 right now but in > Glamour it says shes 29. Is it just media stuff like how they said that > Shirly Temple was a year younger than she really was? its just kinda > confusing to hear see that shes 29 but hear thats shes 33. Althought youre > probably right cuz of course you probably know more about her than a > magazine > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That issue of the magazine is probably 4 years old...at least the article. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:28:36 EDT From: Jezebel144@aol.com Subject: Pink Haunted CD I am confused. I originally bought haunted on the first day it was released. Unfortunately it did not have the Hey Pretty re-mix on it. So, eventually I got another one. The second one was PINK and white instead of White and black. I just figured that all the new versions were pink. Last week my car was broken into and my pink poe CD was among those stolen. Today at the concert ant the House of Blues I purchased another one - with the remix and it was white not pink. Does anyone else have a pink haunted cd and what does the difference in color signify. Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:56:18 -0400 From: "Dean Morrison (PolishChick.com)" Subject: Re: Pink Haunted CD To the best of my knowlegde: Original CD has a sticker on the front that says includes "Wild" and from the film Blair Witch 2 "Haunted" - The original CD is black and white An 18th track was released recently on the Haunted CD: The newer CD has a sticker on the front that says The new album haunted includes "Hey Pretty" (drive-by 2001 mix) and "Wild". The new Hey Pretty is track 18 with 2 mins of dead air between 17 and 18.... The newer CD is red and white (pink) - ----- Original Message ----- > Does anyone else have a pink haunted cd and what does the difference in color > signify. > Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:57:08 -0400 From: "Afroditee Organica" Subject: Control I heard the Apocalypse version and loved it!!! When I heard the version on Haunted I was alittle disapointed! I love the part at the beginning where the guy says, "i just hope she's not still pissed". DOnt take me wrong. I love the version on haunted, but the other is much more energenic and i really feel i can relate to it. From: Allan Grimm Reply-To: vze23tdy@verizon.net To: Subject: Control - Original vs Haunted versions Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:41:57 -0400 The original version of control was much darker than the one that ended up on Haunted. I actually have it. It was the version that ended up on the Apocalypse game for Playstation. It has a 1998 copyright on it, so technically the version on Haunted would be the remix. But if you listen, the version on Haunted actually has an additional verse. Another interesting note from a conversation I had with Poe back in 97 at the show she played in Richmond VA. Control was actually slated to be on the Batman and Robin soundtrack. However when they were going through the cut, appearently the song was, "too dark for Gotham." Which just explains how much that movie and the subsequent soundtrack sucked. Anyway, that's all the info I have on Control. Allan "The Reaper" Joshua Panther wrote: > So I'm at Goth Night in Bowling Green, Ohio last night and I'm sitting there > nursing my Crown Royal and Coke when a song that sounds suspiciously like > "Control" starts. Except it's like nothing like the version that's on > Haunted. I asked the DJ about it and he said it's the only version of the > song he owns (he doesn't have Haunted) and he got it online. It pretty much > sounds like your typical dance remix. Anyone know anything about it? > > Joshua Panther > > "It's beyond my control." -Valmont _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:04:14 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR_turn away nowRe: NPR- Kyoto Conference (flame) In a message dated 6/22/2001 12:58:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tophat81@hotmail.com writes: > Secondly, I find your point about "innovation" being necessary EXTREMELY > funny. You say we need innovation, yet how does supporting the > established, > entrenched energy industry (oil, coal - even the myth of "clean coal," and > gas) have anything to do with innovation???? It doesn't! Innovation means > progress forwards, not staying in the same place or moving backwards. I > agree that we need innovation, but the way to that is better cars, like the > Honda Insight, and alternative energy sources - REAL innovation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > All I have to say about this is check out alcohol fuel. It was around > before the Model T Ford and was as prevalent as gasoline. Then J.D. > Rockefeller joined with the Temperance League people (the same bunch that > later brought us Prohibition) and had a huge tax put on alcohol fuel on the > grounds you could drink it (ignoring that it is easily denatured using ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:06:45 -0700 From: "Conrad Zimmerman" Subject: Re: NPR_turn away now I'm going to sound like a callous, cold-hearted, self-absorbed jerk by saying this, but: I think all of the environmentalists are correct. To that end, I am proposing that we give environmentalists all throughout this great land of ours the opportunity to prove to the rest of the people how correct they are. The solution? Give them their own country. It's quite simple. Anybody that belongs to an organization (Greenpeace, PETA, Sierra Club, etc.) that believes everybody else is screwing up their world can live in the enviro-nation. People who don't belong to these groups are welcome as well, but may require visas if they are not outspoken enough. You may be asking yourself, "But where, where could such a utopia be built?" My friends, that's the easy answer. We give them the largest group of underpopulated land masses on earth. You guessed it, Antarctica. Once there, the people can live out their greatest fantasies of living without dangerous nuclear power plants or air polluting coal and fossil fuel plants. They can cease concerning themselves with killing animals to eat (especially if they live long enough to realize that they have little option in the matter). Seriously, though, sometimes sacrifices have to be made. I have a feeling that the same environmentalists who are complaining the loudest about the possibility of drilling in Alaska will be the first ones screaming to start the drills when gas prices reach as high as $5-6 a gallon. I don't even drive, and I don't like the current rates. It's damaging to an already present economic slowdown, and that's bad for all of us. Especially those of us in a line of work that offers people something that they will NEVER really NEED. I'm willing to bet that includes all of the "bleeding hearts and artists." - -Endorphyne Enzo Molinari wrote: > > long.... > > So because greenhouse gases will increase anyways, let's just contribute > more to the problem??? How does this solve anything?? That's analogous to > saying, "Hey, everybody produces a lot of trash so why should we cut back??" > - or something to that effect. If everybody said that, where would we be?? > As the population grows, the amount of trash is going to grow, but that > doesn't mean we shouldn't try to limit our own trash output by recycling or > whatnot. Back to the point - the U.S. produces a large fraction of > greenhouse gases, and if you reduce that I don't see how that's bad. The > less greenhouse gases the better, period. > > It sounds like you're saying, [in whiny kid voice] "Hey! They don't have to > do it, why should we??" The point is, just because something isn't > completely beneficial to all parties doesn't mean you shouldn't try to do > what's right. > > Secondly, I find your point about "innovation" being necessary EXTREMELY > funny. You say we need innovation, yet how does supporting the established, > entrenched energy industry (oil, coal - even the myth of "clean coal," and > gas) have anything to do with innovation???? It doesn't! Innovation means > progress forwards, not staying in the same place or moving backwards. I > agree that we need innovation, but the way to that is better cars, like the > Honda Insight, and alternative energy sources - REAL innovation. > > Also, wasn't there a horrible break in the Alaskan pipeline a little while > ago?? Am I remembering correctly?? > > And lastly, I must add I am EXTRAORDINARILY excited about the measures the > House overwhelmingly passed today, preventing drilling off of Florida for at > least 6 months, if not more, preventing the Bush administration from > developing sites in national monument lands, making mining companies > accountable for the environmental damage they create, and scrapping a move > to weaken ground and surface water damage. Looks like our government is > headed in the right direction, for the moment at least.... > > Kung-Gene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:18:20 -0400 From: "tom tobin" Subject: Re: Control where can i get that copy of control? if you have aim can you send it to me? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:22:38 EDT From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: Re: Looking for recent MTV appearances YES....I don't have too many goodies BUT I will beg on my hands and knees for a copy of the hotzone and the 120 mts I didn't know about.. ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #258 ***********************************