From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #220 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Sunday, May 27 2001 Volume 06 : Number 220 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPR:Re: Judging others... ["Bad Bender" ] NPR: abortion [Mancilia@aol.com] NPR-abortion [Dax ] Re: NPR Retroactive Abortion [Fzanya@aol.com] Re: I survived an abortion...they tried to abort ME! [PURPLMOJO@aol.com] Re: NPR:Re: Retroactive Abortion ["aaron spink" ] NPR:a poem for those of you who are interested... ["syrigmus" ] Re: I survived an abortion...they tried to abort ME! *NPR* [KrodKnid@aol.] NPR NPR (hey this is NPR)Re: I survived an abortion... ["Bad Bender" ] Re: NPR Re: NPR Retroactive Abortion ["jayson g" ] Fwd: NPR Re: NPR Retroactive Abortion [Freakbaby101@cs.com] NEW POE TOUR DATE/UPDATED POE TOUR PAGE [EXej@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 15:17:33 -0500 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: Re: NPR:Re: Judging others... I hear ya there. It's bad in the US. Over in the desert (Saudi) it's a whole different bag of beans, same for Turkey. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.R. Jobe" To: "Angry Psychos" Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: NPR:Re: Judging others... > > ---It's because one of the most important teachings in > the Bible is that you shouldn't judge others and that > you should treat everyone the same because everyone is > a sinner. When someone decides to "pick and choose" > which parts of the Bible to follow and which to > ignore, that's when you become a hypocrite. When you > become a hypocrite that's when people with other > "beliefs" are allowed to criticize your religion. > ---But like you said, "Every religion and non-religion > has people that judge," which is completely true. The > problem is that Christians seem to judge more than > anybody else. Good example: "If you're not a saved > Christian, then you're going to hell." I don't hear > many Buddhist's saying similar things on a daily > basis. > ---I'm not trying to argue either, just trying to > point out a mistake that alot of my fellow Christians > make. > > ---Jobe > > --- Bad Bender wrote: > > > > Why are Christians always the bad guys? (please note > > a slightly cheerful > > tone here) Every religion and non-religion has > > people that judge. (this is > > not meant to be a argument) > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 17:00:42 EDT From: Mancilia@aol.com Subject: NPR: abortion Hi, all, i haven't contrubuted in awhile, thought i'd say something to this though-- (I'll be talking a lot more now, final exams are over, which is fabulous :) I'm 16. I could have had an 18 year old brother. My mother had an abortion between my 22 year old older sister and me. But her abortion is what makes me pro-choice. The only reason she didn't have that baby is that he has a chromosome defect - i don't really understand it, but basically he would have led a miserable life, and there was a huge chance that he wouldn't have lived anyway because of it. The doctors recommended it to her, and she had it. Honestly, sometimes i wonder what it would be like to have a big brother, but i trust my mother's decision. she loves her children more than anything in the world. Speaking as an impregnable girl, I don't think any woman would willingly give up her child if she had another option. Sometimes not having an abortion would kill the mother and the baby. I have many friends who were adopted and they are very happy in their adopted families, and I honestly think that is the best thing to do, if it is a viable option, but realistically, sometimes it's not. I come from a well-to-do financially secure family. I have birthing hips. If i got pregnant, I would have the baby, because if i did get pregnant, it would be my mistake, and I would want to own up to it: that baby does not deserve to die just because i fucked up when there are so many reasons for it to live. However, I can still understand how in some situations there is no other choice. If you got this far, thank you for listening :) Have a nice day! - --Julia ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 14:07:00 -0700 From: Dax Subject: NPR-abortion Could people please try to add an NPR to this conversation(and all subsequent NPR arguments)? I prefer not to argue my beliefs w/ others via mailing list and would rather not even have to sift through them. Thanks in advance! DAX ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 18:26:25 EDT From: Fzanya@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Retroactive Abortion In a message dated 5/26/01 1:41:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Anij@pobox.mtaonline.net writes: << Just try stomaching that shit. your 5 years old and your parents tekk you "Oh you weren't even expected, honey, When I went in for my 6 week checkup we found I was pregnant again." just thinking of that hurts. >> I'm sorry this was your experience with being unexpected. I wouldn't be able to handle being treated like an unwelcome stranger in my own home, as a young child, no less, who REQUIRES unconditional love for a healthy existence. But I just wanted to tell you that there is no shame in being unplanned itself. I know the way your parents and siblings made you feel is shameful, and you equate it with being "unexpected", but the fact that you're parents weren't careful enough to prevent pregnancy properly when they conceived you means that you were just that--UNEXPECTED--NOT a mistake. I know they made you feel like a mistake, but I just don't want you to think that there is any stigma in being unplanned. I myself was "a mistake" (unplanned!). But my parents love and accept me unconditionally, infinitely, totally, and they're immeasurably grateful for my presence in their lives,. I felt like a prize, a benediction to my parents rather than a liability--and you deserved (though didn't get) that from your family. It is a family's responsibility to celebrate and adore every child that is their's, including the un-meticulously-planned ones. I just wanted to tell you that. You deserved more. As a side-note, unrelated to this, I am unwaveringly pro-choice. Some may find abortion distasteful, murderous, lazy, irresponsible, unecessary, playing God, etc, etc--But what we all have to learn is that it DOES NOT MATTER what we think others should do with their bodies and their lives. We still don't have the right to prevent another human being, and I'm talking about the MOTHER here, not a fetus, from control of her own body, and thus her human rights (inalienable from her though pregnant.) - --Fzanya ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 18:31:12 EDT From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com Subject: Re: I survived an abortion...they tried to abort ME! Prozackitty16@aol.com wrote<>> If you feel that way,then what right does the unborn have to take a womans life that had no control over getting pregnant. What right does anyone have to burden another,endanger or subject their will upon unother?. The question to ask is does a fetus have civil rights?If you try and give unborn civil rights,then it's only fair that those rights are applied to the mother as well. So do you think pregnant women who drink,smoke,take drugs and do not take care of themselves should be charged with child abuse? Abortion like religion is something that can not be outlined as right or wrong. Both are a matter of spirit and personal decision. Whether it's morals,scientific fact, or matter of opinion. There are moral arguments for and against abortion. Both very valid arguments. Just as we as human beings have free will to worship a god or not. We have free will over what we do to our bodies or allow to happen. Goverment can make laws to try and control us,Drug laws,prohibition,alcohol and tobacco laws for teenagers. These tend to create underground markets and with underground markets comes unregulated products and services as well as a crime element. These unregulated services and products often lead to causing alot of harm and deaths. Bottom line is it comes down to the Woman that is going to deal with the emotional & spiritual consequences. She has to live with everyday of her life and will deal with it when if she meets her maker.. Lord Lonnie A.K.A. The Blue Bastard ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 15:52:19 -0700 From: "aaron spink" Subject: Re: NPR:Re: Retroactive Abortion > I should stay out of the abortion issue since I have a penis will never have > to have an abortion I have no right to say anything except that it is the > choice of the women involved. Um, there is at least one case of a Man with a penis carrying a fetus to full term. Granted he was originally a she, but you never know. They are working on the needed surgical procecures to transfer an uterus and ovum into a male body. Aaron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 17:58:52 -0500 From: "syrigmus" Subject: NPR:a poem for those of you who are interested... a poem for those who are interested: a poem for those who are interested: so? one tiny, little word. it doesn't even look like a word, does it? one tiny, little word that can change a perspective, a conversation, a mood. so much, so little, so tired, so lost, so what? what is the point of the word in the first place? I suppose to answer that would be to answer the questions that have plagued all of the great minds for as long as time has existed and for as long as time will last. so? a disfigured tear falling through the worthless pages of life. who is the creator of such a hideous mistake? is he so worthless as to err in even the simplest task as shedding his sorrow? too many questions and never relief, never justification. justification of the source of the disease, the source of the endless interviews displayed in the minds of the forgotten. all that remains is a word a single word a tiny, little word that drives the nails deeper into the wrists of the afflicted. it is the wound, it is the bandage, it is the aphrodisiac. still we are nowhere ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 19:44:35 EDT From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: NPR Re: NPR Retroactive Abortion Yes, I find it to be distasteful, murderous, lazy, irresponsible, unnecessary, playing God, a bad choice, the list goes on and on and on and on. I just find bloody coat hangers and back alley appointments with a guy who's day job is meat cutter to be a bit worse. Call me judgemental. I think that my opinion here doesn't matter though, as this is not something the government should be regulating. Both political parties have become so concerned with what they can regulate that they never bothered to even ask if they should regulate it. - -Mike (who approves of transoccipital defibrilation in extreme cases) In a message dated 5/26/01 6:39:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Fzanya@aol.com writes: > Some may > find abortion distasteful, murderous, lazy, irresponsible, unecessary, ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 20:12:39 EDT From: FluffyWaffle@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Re: NPR Retroactive Abortion I really don't want to hear anything more about this. . . .the last time i checked this was a POE mailing list not a "Clash of opinons over abortion and enviromental problems list" when you start talking about this is makes the list suck.....sorry to sound bitchy but i already know my choices on abortion and i am not concerned about yours. . .~Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 20:22:45 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR:Re: Retroactive Abortion In a message dated 5/26/2001 2:28:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ninthwave@mindspring.com@gte.net writes: > I thought the French Little Death was the poetic term for orgasm. But to some > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In deed it is a French term for orgasm. My point was that maybe the "big death" is more of the same...and just like the little one, you wake up somewhere afterwards. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 20:54:09 EDT From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Re: NPR Retroactive Abortion I really don't want to hear anything more about this. . . .the last time i checked this was a POE mailing list not a "Clash of opinons over abortion and enviromental problems list" when you start talking about this is makes the list suck.....sorry to sound bitchy but i already know my choices on abortion and i am not concerned about yours.>>>> If you see the subject line NPR Non poe related or a subject line dealing with abortion or any other title thats not poe and you don't want to discuss.. Use your freedom of choice and click delete... The Angry psycho's is more than just a mailing list for Poe info to the Majority of people here. To some it's a community and or family..For those of us that have been here since 96 the thread of us all being a family has been there since the beginning. If you happen to be one of them people that is not interested in makeing online friends or talking about various subjects.. Read only things with PR (Poe related)or a subject line that has something to do with Poe.. Rather than trying to censor and conform everyone else to what you would like. Wish Tipper Gore and her PMRC could have thought of that. The Blue Bastard ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 20:19:55 -0400 From: Michael Anderson Subject: NPR:abortion, response to Shanna ok, my opinions on this issue are mixed but first: >But I digress. One can't stop people from getting >abortions. Anyone's got a problem with that, they can >start adopting a couple hundred unwanted kids. well, if it was just a matter of unwanted kids, that would be a possible solution. And although the parents of the child don't want the child, it is not to say that other people don't. Do you know how long the waiting list for being able to adopt is? A lot of the children who are aborted would be able to go to good homes where they were wanted IF the birth mother was willing to cary the baby to term and give up her baby once she had. I have a had a few good friends who weren't able to have children who had to wait years (even after they were cleared to be good parents) in order to adopt a child. but there are situations when raising the child aren't the concern (as described by lunasea) Although I am overall pro-life, I don't think that it is possible or fesible to make abortion legal, and there are instances when abortion is justified. I don't feel that as a male member of the species I have a right to tell a woman what to do with her body. But what really bugs me is that if so many pro-life people want women to have thier babies, they make it so darn hard. If life really is a beautiful choice, than why don't we help make it possible. Pay for pre and post natal care, stop cutting off welfare to single mothers because we are afraid they will milk the system. Make it easier to give up a baby for adoption. there are a lot of policies that could be done, but the debate is so stupidly bi-polar and no one will compromise. It seems as if the pro-life people are afraid that if they do it will undermine their position and abortion will always stay legal there are so many good people who are on both sides of this debate that seem to cease being good people when this issue comes up. Why do we insist on being so militant. can't we come to a solution rationally? I think life is a better choice, most of the people in favor of abortion don't disagree, they just disagree with removing choice. Well, if that is the case, lets leave people with a choice, but give them a whole lot of support in bringing a child into the world. and sure, a lot of people will still choose to have abortions, but even if it were illeagal a lot of people would choose the same thing, but with much worse consequences ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 21:23:19 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: I survived an abortion...they tried to abort ME! *NPR* In a message dated 5/26/2001 3:18:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Shadow123@rocketmail.com writes: > And what if abortion is in the best interest of the > child? If someone is going to give birth to a baby > who will live a life filled with poverty, starvation, > prejudice, and violence, why not abort the child and > spare it the absolute pain of living? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Female cats have the odd characteristic of being able to be impregnated > by more than one male at the same time. I guess they drop a bunch of ova > during the whole time they are in heat. Anyway, it is fairly common for > them to have large litters of 6 or 8 kittens or more from 2 or three > different fathers...depending on how many males got to them while they were > in heat. If the mother can't support the entire litter with the amount of > milk she is producing (and also perceives that she won't be able to hunt > enough food for them all once they are weaned) then she will start > selectively killing them...usually by lying on them while they are sleeping > and smothering them to death. Which ones are chosen to die is entirely up > to the mother. Sometimes she will kill off the weak ones who probably won't > make it anyway. Sometimes she will kill off the biggest ones who get to the > milk first so that a larger number of the rest will survive. It might be > that she just likes one or two the best for some reason and will save those > at the expense of the others. Some kill all the males, since the female can > reproduce more from several fathers at once. Sometimes she kills all the > females, since the males can impregnate a lot of females. This process is > "natural"...and it is entirely at the mother's discretion which ones are > chosen to live...and whether or not to do it in the first place. Sometimes > she will hang on in desperation and try to save them all, then finally give > in when some of them are starving to death in spite of her efforts...this > is really a sad case, and the female cat becomes this almost haunted > spectre-like creature, full of woe, during the scenario. Others seem to > just know innately (or perhaps from experience) and do it right away so the > ones to survive do so in better health. Mother cats love their kittens too, > and will protect them fiercely...even to the death if need be...so this > instinct to "prune" the litter must run very deep. Mother cats who have to > do this often show something reminiscient of shame or grief or remorse, and > I once knew a couple of guys who worked in a sewage reclaimation plant in Huntington Beach, California...they strain all the crap and debris out of sewage and filter the water and aerate it to kill bacteria and so forth and reintroduce it to the water supply...maybe mostly for irrigation, I am not sure. These guys found many lids of marijuana that was flushed during a bust or something...they were, unfortunately, beyond salvage. All kinds of odd household items and other stuff. But of all this junk, the thing that really grossed them out was the incredible number of tiny human fetuses they filtered out of the sewage...forced or natural miscarriages that were subsequently flushed down the toilet. After a while they became cynically inured to them and even began to make grim jokes about it. One of them actually began to save them in a tank with the idea of making a couple baby fetus lava lamps. That is black humor at its worst. The point is, human females are a bit like cats in their instincts, and they will get rid of babies they can't raise for one reason or another...usually poverty (mostly food related, similar to a cat). Abortion is not some horror that only came along in the morally corrupt 20th Century, we just have more sophisticated and safe ways of doing it. Think back over what you have gleaned from history and you may recall hearing of alarming statistics regarding infant mortality and the number of pregnancies that never reached birth in the darker centuries past. Is it not likely that these were not only the result of really poor health standards, but also of women forcing a miscarriage or even abandoning or flat out killing their offspring (like those who ditch unwanted kids in garbage dumpsters). Abortion is as old as mankind and is not even exclusive to the species either. So which is better, to ban it from being done and force women to resort to the "old ways"...or to use all the relatively safe and sanitary means of modern medicine to accomplish what is going to be going on anyway? I am not in any way advocating the act itself, which I merely recognize as something that has been going on across the ages and will continue to go on no matter what (the idea of it sort of turns my guts though...even with cats). But I also recognize that it is entirely the province of the mother whetther or not to do it...and it is most decidedly NOT a religious or political issue. So when some individual woman says "keep your stinking laws and paws off MY body!" I tend to respect her will in the matter, since it is a choice I will never have to make for myself regarding something that I will never experience...so leave the abortion issue to the experts please...the mothers. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 20:48:10 -0500 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: NPR NPR (hey this is NPR)Re: I survived an abortion... I think it's called infanticide. I saw a show on the Discovery channel about Neanderthals and they explained that, like you said, the lack off food was a reason to kill a newborn because they mother wouldn't survive the winter breast feeding the baby. I've seen hamsters do it to, and gerbils. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: Re: I survived an abortion...they tried to abort ME! *NPR* > > In a message dated 5/26/2001 3:18:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Shadow123@rocketmail.com writes: > > > > And what if abortion is in the best interest of the > > child? If someone is going to give birth to a baby > > who will live a life filled with poverty, starvation, > > prejudice, and violence, why not abort the child and > > spare it the absolute pain of living? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Female cats have the odd characteristic of being able to be impregnated > > by more than one male at the same time. I guess they drop a bunch of ova > > during the whole time they are in heat. Anyway, it is fairly common for > > them to have large litters of 6 or 8 kittens or more from 2 or three > > different fathers...depending on how many males got to them while they were > > in heat. If the mother can't support the entire litter with the amount of > > milk she is producing (and also perceives that she won't be able to hunt > > enough food for them all once they are weaned) then she will start > > selectively killing them...usually by lying on them while they are sleeping > > and smothering them to death. Which ones are chosen to die is entirely up > > to the mother. Sometimes she will kill off the weak ones who probably won't > > make it anyway. Sometimes she will kill off the biggest ones who get to the > > milk first so that a larger number of the rest will survive. It might be > > that she just likes one or two the best for some reason and will save those > > at the expense of the others. Some kill all the males, since the female can > > reproduce more from several fathers at once. Sometimes she kills all the > > females, since the males can impregnate a lot of females. This process is > > "natural"...and it is entirely at the mother's discretion which ones are > > chosen to live...and whether or not to do it in the first place. Sometimes > > she will hang on in desperation and try to save them all, then finally give > > in when some of them are starving to death in spite of her efforts...this > > is really a sad case, and the female cat becomes this almost haunted > > spectre-like creature, full of woe, during the scenario. Others seem to > > just know innately (or perhaps from experience) and do it right away so the > > ones to survive do so in better health. Mother cats love their kittens too, > > and will protect them fiercely...even to the death if need be...so this > > instinct to "prune" the litter must run very deep. Mother cats who have to > > do this often show something reminiscient of shame or grief or remorse, and > > > I once knew a couple of guys who worked in a sewage reclaimation plant in > Huntington Beach, California...they strain all the crap and debris out of > sewage and filter the water and aerate it to kill bacteria and so forth and > reintroduce it to the water supply...maybe mostly for irrigation, I am not > sure. These guys found many lids of marijuana that was flushed during a bust > or something...they were, unfortunately, beyond salvage. All kinds of odd > household items and other stuff. But of all this junk, the thing that really > grossed them out was the incredible number of tiny human fetuses they > filtered out of the sewage...forced or natural miscarriages that were > subsequently flushed down the toilet. After a while they became cynically > inured to them and even began to make grim jokes about it. One of them > actually began to save them in a tank with the idea of making a couple baby > fetus lava lamps. That is black humor at its worst. The point is, human > females are a bit like cats in their instincts, and they will get rid of > babies they can't raise for one reason or another...usually poverty (mostly > food related, similar to a cat). Abortion is not some horror that only came > along in the morally corrupt 20th Century, we just have more sophisticated > and safe ways of doing it. Think back over what you have gleaned from history > and you may recall hearing of alarming statistics regarding infant mortality > and the number of pregnancies that never reached birth in the darker > centuries past. Is it not likely that these were not only the result of > really poor health standards, but also of women forcing a miscarriage or even > abandoning or flat out killing their offspring (like those who ditch unwanted > kids in garbage dumpsters). Abortion is as old as mankind and is not even > exclusive to the species either. So which is better, to ban it from being > done and force women to resort to the "old ways"...or to use all the > relatively safe and sanitary means of modern medicine to accomplish what is > going to be going on anyway? I am not in any way advocating the act itself, > which I merely recognize as something that has been going on across the ages > and will continue to go on no matter what (the idea of it sort of turns my > guts though...even with cats). But I also recognize that it is entirely the > province of the mother whetther or not to do it...and it is most decidedly > NOT a religious or political issue. So when some individual woman says "keep > your stinking laws and paws off MY body!" I tend to respect her will in the > matter, since it is a choice I will never have to make for myself regarding > something that I will never experience...so leave the abortion issue to the > experts please...the mothers. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 21:53:18 EDT From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Re: NPR Retroactive Abortion In a message dated 5/26/01 7:23:03 PM Central Daylight Time, FluffyWaffle@aol.com writes: > I really don't want to hear anything more about this. . . .the last time i > checked this was a POE mailing list not a "Clash of opinons over abortion > and > enviromental problems list" when you start talking about this is makes the > list suck.....sorry to sound bitchy but i already know my choices on > abortion > Um... exactly HOW long have you been on this list? ;) ~*~ Even if the sun is shining, it's pouring acid rain~ LunaChicks ~*~ Love, love, is a verb, love is a doing word~ Massive Attack ~*~ Adventure, excitement, the Jedi craves not these things~ Silent Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 17:56:17 -0800 From: Anij Subject: NPR: Re: I survived an abortion...they tried to abort ME! *NPR* > << abandoning or flat out killing their offspring (like those who ditch unwanted > kids in garbage dumpsters). >>> Yeah garbage dumpsters. I have a 15 year old niece that had a son August 2000. The Christmas before she came up from Washington State to visit us. She didn't look different she seemed her normal bitchy self. She played soccer 2 or 3 days before she had the kid. She didn't know she was pregnant. She had just lost her virginity to 1 guy and got pregnant. She put him in the trunk of the car. Now if she wasn't taught better thier is no doubt in my mind, that kid wouldn't be around now. She called the police on herself. The doctors said she was carrying the child inside and low. The thing is she always had her period too. My neice had brains enough to not put it in a dumpster and leave it. The thing is some females don't know they are pregnant and when they do have the kid they panic. What the hell are you supposed to do when your not prepared for something so small that is actually pretty big in an emotional sense. - -=Anij=- - -- ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ~ An it harm none,~ ~ Do what you will~ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 22:07:40 -0400 From: "Rusty Shelby" Subject: 05.25.01 - ATLANTA - photos!!!! ok kids... all of the photos i took yesterday are up... go have a look... reviews, stories, and apologies coming soon... (those of you that got an email before... there are MORE to be seen!!) http://www.geocities.com/rustyshelby22/POEonthebricks052501.html - -rusty agentorange2@mindspring.com = rusty@poe.org | http://www.rustyisdabomb.com ***************************************************************************** ********************************* Jennifer Nettles Band: http://www.jennifernettles.com | http://www.jennifernettlesband.com ***************************************************************************** ********************************* POE: "Haunted" the new album in stores now featuring the new single, "Hey Pretty". | http://www.p-o-e.com | http://www.buffybb.net/poe | ***************************************************************************** ********************************* Amanda Ghost: "Ghost Stories" album in stores now featuring the latest single, "Idol" http://www.amandaghost.net | http://amandaghost.cjb.net/ ***************************************************************************** ********************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 22:20:33 EDT From: FluffyWaffle@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Re: NPR Retroactive Abortion Conform?Honey i can care less ur topic but your filling up my mail box with trash. . .that does indeed bother me. . .and don't use seniority on me cause once more i can care less who has been here for how long. . .~Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 21:31:14 -0500 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F8key/xero?= Subject: Re: 05.25.01 - ATLANTA - photos!!!! sweet. i didn't know about the after party. wish i had. I was the guy wearing the yellow pants with the red straps hanging on the pocket, black shirt, and a bunch of blue jelly bracelets. i remember seeing everyone in those pictures -=OP xero - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rusty Shelby" To: "POE postings" Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 9:07 PM Subject: 05.25.01 - ATLANTA - photos!!!! > > ok kids... > all of the photos i took yesterday are up... > go have a look... reviews, stories, and apologies coming soon... > (those of you that got an email before... there are MORE to be seen!!) > > http://www.geocities.com/rustyshelby22/POEonthebricks052501.html > > > -rusty > > agentorange2@mindspring.com = rusty@poe.org | > http://www.rustyisdabomb.com > **************************************************************************** * > ********************************* > Jennifer Nettles Band: http://www.jennifernettles.com | > http://www.jennifernettlesband.com > **************************************************************************** * > ********************************* > POE: "Haunted" the new album in stores now featuring the new single, "Hey > Pretty". > | http://www.p-o-e.com | > http://www.buffybb.net/poe | > **************************************************************************** * > ********************************* > Amanda Ghost: "Ghost Stories" album in stores now featuring the latest single, > "Idol" > http://www.amandaghost.net | > http://amandaghost.cjb.net/ > **************************************************************************** * > ********************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 22:59:56 EDT From: PURPLMOJO@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Re: NPR Retroactive Abortion Conform?Honey i can care less ur topic but your filling up my mail box with trash. . .that does indeed bother me. . .and don't use seniority on me cause once more i can care less who has been here for how long. . .~Leslie >>>>> ::laughs:;well sweetie pie, thats to bad it bothers you,cause it's not going to change. As for senority dont' know what your talking about. I was never calling senority. Think your a little defencive there.. I was pointing out that those that have been around from the lists conception majority realize that this mailing list is something more than just Poe info...Thus the creation of npr.. Lord Lonnie A.K.A The Blue Bastard ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 23:18:34 -0400 From: "Sparrkle Goddess" Subject: abortion how can you say that? THe soul isnt in the body yet of the fetus. If it is aborted, the soul will come back again and again untill it finally is born. At least that is my opinion. I believe that every person should have the choice as to what they want to do. From: Prozackitty16@aol.com To: Subject: Re: abstinence Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 01:17:49 EDT First off...there is NO reason EVER for abortion. Even if your raped. Even if the doctors say your going to die if you dont have an abortion. Theres no excuse you can make up to rationalize it. If I got pregnant from a rapist I would hav ethe child. If the doctors said that I would die if I had it...I would have it. Theres NO anylization for the slaughter of an innocent. Hav e a nice day! ~Gypsy _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 22:42:51 -0500 From: "jayson g" Subject: Re: NPR Re: NPR Retroactive Abortion Let's all be friends, kids. Now I'm gonna go to the clubs and when I get back and check my mail tomorrow I want all this nonsense to end or you are all GROUNDED. luv the all of ya, Jay. >From: FluffyWaffle@aol.com >To: PURPLMOJO@aol.com, angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: NPR Re: NPR Retroactive Abortion >Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 22:20:33 EDT > > >Conform?Honey i can care less ur topic but your filling up my mail box with >trash. . .that does indeed bother me. . .and don't use seniority on me cause >once more i can care less who has been here for how long. . .~Leslie - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 00:10:30 EDT From: Freakbaby101@cs.com Subject: Fwd: NPR Re: NPR Retroactive Abortion In a message dated 5/26/2001 10:26:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, FluffyWaffle@aol.com writes: > well if you don't want the mail switch to digest form and let everyone else who enjoys the topics be it's quite simple:} Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (rly-zc05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.5]) by air-zc04.mail.aol.com (v78.52) with ESMTP; Sat, 26 May 2001 22:26:15 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [209.58.179.86]) by rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Sat, 26 May 2001 22:26:02 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id WAA04214; Sat, 26 May 2001 22:20:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Sat, 26 May 2001 22:20:21 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id WAA04182 for angry-psychos-outgoing; Sat, 26 May 2001 22:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with ESMTP id WAA04177 for ; Sat, 26 May 2001 22:19:45 -0400 (EDT) From: FluffyWaffle@aol.com Received: from FluffyWaffle@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id p.da.6dda7ee (3892); Sat, 26 May 2001 22:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 22:20:33 EDT Subject: Re: NPR Re: NPR Retroactive Abortion To: PURPLMOJO@aol.com, angry-psychos@smoe.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 114 Sender: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk Conform?Honey i can care less ur topic but your filling up my mail box with trash. . .that does indeed bother me. . .and don't use seniority on me cause once more i can care less who has been here for how long. . .~Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 00:46:36 EDT From: EXej@aol.com Subject: NEW POE TOUR DATE/UPDATED POE TOUR PAGE There has been another date added to the Poe/Depeche Mode tour: August 18 at Arrowhead Pond in Anaheim, CA. Tickets go on sale at 10AM June 3 (Pacific time) I don't think POE will be playing the Depeche Mode rehearsal show in LA, as she has rehearsing of her own to do around the time frame that will take place... I've also finally gotten around to updating the http://houseofleaves.4t.com/house.html and http://houseofleaves.4t.com/house2.html pages with the new tour date, the touring band and many more psychos going to the shows. Check out the coverage and also check out a brand new feature off of the http://houseofleaves.4t.com main page, SimPOE, which is going to chronicle the adventures of the Poe band's computer generated counterparts while the band goes on their US tour with Depeche Mode. Stay tuned for more information as it happens.... - ---- This public service announcement brought to you by ShellE Productions www.shelle.org Check there for official Poe discography info, The Idiot's Guide to House of Leaves and much more! ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #220 ***********************************