From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #218 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Saturday, May 26 2001 Volume 06 : Number 218 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Regional AP thingys [Talk2Bill@aol.com] Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! ["Jeff Thompson" ] Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! ["Jeff Thompson" ] Re: volcano ash CO2 [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR 13 [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #211 [Elliot Dale ] Re: abstinence [Prozackitty16@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 20:17:33 EDT From: Talk2Bill@aol.com Subject: Re: Regional AP thingys yeah i need to find or become one for the dallas area! > > So do we have organized, regional groups? If so, can someone send me the > info > for Utah psychos? Or should I undertake that task myself? Who could say > 'no' > to monthly AP get togethers or something to that effect? It'd be hot. 8-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 21:02:43 -0400 From: "Jeff Thompson" Subject: Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! Then why do we have the lowest gas prices in the world. That makes no sense and suggesting to use force to get something more cheaply when you already have the lowest cost on the face of the planet really makes this country sound like a bunch of spoiled kids. Jeff Thompson ninthwave@mindspring.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bad Bender" To: "Anij" Cc: "indigofaerie" ; Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 8:02 PM Subject: Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! > > It's all OPEC's doing that has caused our oil/prices to rise. I say we > threaten to pull out tanks and aircraft out of the region unless they sell > oil to the US at a much lower price. We don't need to be their hired > mercenaries anymore if they insist on treating us this way. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anij" > To: "Bad Bender" > Cc: "indigofaerie" ; > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:31 PM > Subject: Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! > > > > Alaska alone has enough oil to supply the US for a long ass time but yet > we ship > > it to everywhere else and then we buy from everyone else and that makes > our > > fuckin gas prices sky rocket as well as natural gas. I truly believe that > maybe > > just once the US should just start worrying about it's own problems > instead of > > everybody elses. Will we ever get a president that will just say "I can't > help > > these people right now, my country is fucked up as it is."? Hell no. Sorry > just > > a little rant and probably off the subject of what yopu were talking about > but i > > just saw something about oil and that struck a nerve. I'm gonna go back to > > reading the rest of my mail now :) sorry for the bitch session. > > > > -=Anij=- > > > > Bad Bender wrote: > > > > > Using a method of oil processing the Germans developed during WW2 we can > use > > > our oil reserves alone and sustain our country for the next 25 years at > 10% > > > growth each of the 25 years. I learned this while working at a DoE > facility > > > in VA. Pretty neat stuff there to, however, eventually we will need to > use > > > other raw resources to keep everything going. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "indigofaerie" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:36 AM > > > Subject: NPR: ready, aim, fire! > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 00:33:16 EDT > > > > > From: GaulAiel@aol.com > > > > > Subject: Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/23/01 7:29:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > KrodKnid@aol.com > > > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if you don't think that pig and his oilman cronies (well, he > is > > > just a > > > > > > puppet himself) aren't intentionally sucking us dry with the > current > > > "gas > > > > > > crisis" you are crazy. The first gas crisis was orchestrated fer > > > cryin' out > > > > > > loud...this one is even more trumped up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wait a minute... Bush is sucking us dry??!! Where do you get that? > How > > > is he > > > > > profiting from it? The fact is that this whole power/gas shortage > has > > > been > > > > > building for YEARS. Face facts, because of the lack of our own oil > > > > > production, we are at the mercy of foreign oil companies (OPEC) who > have > > > cut > > > > > back the supply to raise prices. If we produced our own oil, this > would > > > not > > > > > be a problem. But we haven't expanded our oil drilling facilities in > 25 > > > > > years. Why is that? Because Washington has been held back by > > > environmental > > > > > extremists and their democrat lackies. Whenever you have extremists > > > > > influencing policy, you're going to end up in trouble. But this is > just > > > what > > > > > the democrats wanted... high gas prices, to punish the wanton use of > > > > > gasoline/oil. So if you support Clinton/Gore and oppose Bush, you > should > > > be > > > > > happy about this situation. You definitely shouldn't be bitching > about > > > it. > > > > > You got what you wanted. As far as energy in Cali, they are reaping > what > > > they > > > > > have sown. They pandered to the environmental extremists and > wouldn't > > > build > > > > > power plants despite the growth of the state's population. That's > THEIR > > > > > fault, and it's NOT the President's job to regulate power companies. > Now > > > Cali > > > > > is relying on other states to violate EPA rules to give them power > and > > > they > > > > > want to bitch about it? C'mon... get real. It's time for a reality > > > check. > > > > > There is a middle ground. Noone wants uncontrolled damage to the > > > > > environment, but we also must be able to supply our population with > the > > > > > energy needed to exist. That's why Bush came out with his 100+ > > > sugestions on > > > > > how we approach this problem, where the majority of suggestions > > > addressed > > > > > conservation over expansion of energy consumption. But then again, > some > > > > > people don't want to look at the facts... instead they want to > imagine > > > that > > > > > there is an evil empire in power bent on destroying the world. Give > us > > > all a > > > > > break... > > > > > > > > us using the oil that is currently available in the US is a > non-feasible > > > > solution. even if we find and drill 100% of the oil that is available > in > > > > the US (we haven't even FOUND most of it) it can't sustain us very > long. > > > > the oil that's in the alaska protected place (wildlife refuge or > > > > whatever?) would sustain the US for 6 months. six months, that's it. > and > > > > the problem is that use of oil is increasing exponentially - which > means > > > > that every ten years, it doubles. DOUBLES. now if you look at the > amount > > > > of oil in the WORLD that's been used thus far, and the amount that's > LEFT, > > > > we've passed the halfway point... there's less left than has been used > > > > already. we've got less than ten years of oil left on the PLANET, and > > > > that's INCLUDING all the stuff we haven't even discovered yet. we've > got a > > > > major energy crisis on our hands, and no one is really looking at the > > > > facts. most people are too busy spewing political rhetoric to bother > to > > > > check facts. > > > > how do i know all the above? an energy expert came to a class i was in > > > > this past spring and spent a lot of time explaining it clearly to us, > > > > showing us graphs, presenting every "side" to the story, explaining > how > > > > "facts" that politicos present are nice convenient twisting of > details.... > > > > > > > > --emilie > > > > -- > > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > > ~ An it harm none,~ > > ~ Do what you will~ > > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 21:57:00 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! In a message dated 5/25/2001 7:56:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Anij@pobox.mtaonline.net writes: > I truly believe that maybe > just once the US should just start worrying about it's own problems instead > of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Up until WWI that is exactly what we did. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 22:14:08 -0400 From: "Jeff Thompson" Subject: Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! I can agree to the bulk of below, except the major cost rise right now is coming from the refineries and the crude oil market. Futures hurt us consumers more than opec. Not directly from opec. http://www.realbig.com/miata/miata/2000-03/1525.html Commentary on the below article. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/news/nation-world/html98/gasa_20000310.html An old article last year when the same thing happened in the summer. Realize our refineries push the price up every summer to make the most profit off of the increased demand. http://www.energyintel.com/ Some insight into Opec quota's http://cbc.ca/news/indepth/gaspains/ Though not American shows a good picture of how the industry works. http://www.cyberdistrict.net/eddy/838.htm Silly article but points to other factors that equate in gas pricing. http://www.worldoil.com/infocenter/infocenter_main.asp The difference between Saudi Arabi and Alaska in barrel oil price 50 cents. On the barrel. The price difference we see in gas is refinery related. http://www.worldfuels.com/ A good breakdown of some of the US problems with fuel. The article on the 6.8 billion galloons of fuel wasted in traffic jams points out we have a transportation problem. The reliance on individual transport wastes gas. We need better public transportation and we need industrial centers. Lately where I live I have watched prime farm land turned into call centers and shopping malls. That are miles out from a city. These types of jobs can be done in cities with easy access without the need for people to drive to them and eventually we are going to have to think of our land use for food. The midwest is a great supply for us but our imports of food are rising if we let it get out of control it can be a problem. Also note the proposed bill to control the profit margin on fuels. We do have some market issues with the companies currently. Mainly this is due to our demand, and being locked into a transportation system that requires us to use this product. Here are the prices by country as of January 1st 2000 We had the lowest prices in the world excluding The Middle East, Northern Africa, Venezuela. But take that with our demand and standard economic supply and demand ratios. And our price impact on the entire oil market is more servere. Last link http://www.api.org/ As much as I hate the oil industry I agree with their comparission of the inflation index and gas prices. The spike we are seeing when prices are averaged with the inflation index is nothing. My favorite iced tea went from $0.99 to $1.19 to $1.59 1999 2000 2001 If that same rise in gas would have happened we would be jumping out of our seats. The funny thing is though the cost of goods went up my salary did much more slowly. Economics is weird that way. But in one week I will be living in the UK so it doesn't really matter, I will be paying $4.18 a galloon. But I won't have to drive as much to survive in the job market their so it balances out. I have always hated my home countries obsession with the automobile and the spreading out of country. It seems wasteful. And when the market is like this it seems more wasteful. I have seen too many industries decentralize from industrial centers and force people to find the ways to their new job locations, and public transportation being abannoned in most small cities. But I am a liberal, environmental loving freak. I don't deny that. Jeff Thompson ninthwave@mindspring.com > Also I wasn't suggesting we use force, rather we remove ourselves > from the region and leave those self sustaining countries to defend > themselves, that's all. They have money, let them raise their own Army and > Air Force, no need to keep our people there in harms way and at great > expense to our nation when they continually raise the prices of the very > blood that keeps our tanks rolling and jets flying. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 18:15:44 -0800 From: Anij Subject: Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! Why not do it again? I mean our government helps every country except our own. And look how corrupted it is. - -=Anij=- KrodKnid@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/25/2001 7:56:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Anij@pobox.mtaonline.net writes: > > > I truly believe that maybe > > just once the US should just start worrying about it's own problems instead > > of > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Up until WWI that is exactly what we did. - -- ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ~ An it harm none,~ ~ Do what you will~ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 22:18:48 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! In a message dated 5/25/2001 10:15:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Anij@pobox.mtaonline.net writes: > Why not do it again? I mean our government helps every country except our > own. > And look how corrupted it is. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a few people who advocate that. You are not alone. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 22:39:58 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! In a message dated 5/25/2001 10:35:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ninthwave@mindspring.com@gte.net writes: > . My favorite iced tea went > from $0.99 to $1.19 to $1.59 > 1999 2000 2001 > If that same rise in gas would have happened we would be jumping out of our > seats. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The first gas crisis was notably worse than that. Anyway, you don't drink tea by the gallon...or do you?:-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 22:40:03 -0400 From: "Jeff Thompson" Subject: Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! But then we would have to lose say in foreign affairs, were a large portion of our economic interests lie. I agree with the idea except our economy is not a self sufficient as it used to be. We broke up many structures in search of more profit since World War II that makes us very dependent on our strength of voice in foriegn affairs. Just as the $ cost at the pumps make us restless, $ cost of conflict overseas affects the profit margins of what truly moves this country. Jeff Thompson ninthwave@mindspring.com http://www.nolovelost.cc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 22:47:34 -0400 From: "Jeff Thompson" Subject: Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! Yes I do. sorry. But in that also would think of milk and bread costs. But then again all these things inter relate. Gas prices affect all goods pricing due to our means of delivery. So the price controls have always been well done by the oil industry. They can guarantee consumption so they just have to keep manufacturing cost down and they can keep profit levels. When manufacturing costs go up they usually level the prices by the demand cycles which is why we have been seeing summer spikes over the last few years. Also the article I posted on the market shows the level of speculation on the oil futures market that is also increasing the price of crude. All and all because we are a large nation, we need to consolidate the refining process, decide on an omission standard nation wide so that the country is not affected by different manufacturing costs per region due to different omission standards and different refining needs. That will help greatly. Secondly we have to start focussing on our transportation grids that have problems. On the east coast I know what it is like to drive to Washington and New York I did both last week to go to the British Embassies in both cities. I also used the train system on consequent trips. The amount of single passenger cars on the Washington Beltway is insane. The working hours in the city though seem to be constant the traffic is there at set times, you can plan around it. If you can plan on avoiding such jams we really could have more efficient transportation into the city. If we worry about gas prices and how the affect us, we should worry about how we use gas. But again I have stated I am a big supporter of improving this nations pathetic public transportation systems. Jeff Thompson ninthwave@mindspring.com http://www.nolovelost.cc ----- Original Message ----- From: KrodKnid@aol.com To: ninthwave@mindspring.com ; angry-psychos@smoe.org Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 10:39 PM Subject: Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! In a message dated 5/25/2001 10:35:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ninthwave@mindspring.com@gte.net writes: . My favorite iced tea went from $0.99 to $1.19 to $1.59 1999 2000 2001 If that same rise in gas would have happened we would be jumping out of our seats. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The first gas crisis was notably worse than that. Anyway, you don't drink tea by the gallon...or do you?:-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 22:59:32 -0400 From: "Jeff Thompson" Subject: Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! Sorry that was in Reply to: >Why not do it again? I mean our government helps every country except our own. And look how corrupted it is. - -=Anij=-< Don't quite know what happened there won't do it again. Jeff Thompson ninthwave@mindspring.com http://www.nolovelost.cc - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Thompson" To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 10:40 PM Subject: Re: NPR: ready, aim, fire! > > But then we would have to lose say in foreign affairs, were a large portion > of our economic interests lie. I agree with the idea except our economy is > not a self sufficient as it used to be. We broke up many structures in > search of more profit since World War II that makes us very dependent on our > strength of voice in foriegn affairs. > Just as the $ cost at the pumps make us restless, $ cost of conflict > overseas affects the profit margins of what truly moves this country. > > > Jeff Thompson > ninthwave@mindspring.com > http://www.nolovelost.cc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:19:59 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: rape Before somebody comes back at this statement with some assholish comment (I've seen it happen on plenty of lists, and someone probably already has, I have not been able to check my mail in a few days...), I would just like to say that I was raped at the age of 13, and I am lucky to have miscarried. I was hardly more than a child, in the summer between 7th and 8th grade. I would not have carried that child into 8th grade if I had to take a hanger and do it myself. I jumped out of a tree, bye-bye piece of me. Sad, but I prefered it to my education, to the shame I would have experienced, and to my sanity. I could not carry a child for 9 months. And anyone who was raped, even if it was a woman at the age of 30, should not be forced to carry another human being for 9 months, especially when they're going through enough crap from being a rape victim. A rape stays with you for life. I especially don't need a child to remind me, and a child who will ask who his/her daddy is. Yeah, I can just imagine it "Well, kid, I'm afraid I don't know, cuz you see, your daddy was a rapist, and I'm a victim." Pleasant conversation. I'll be turning 20 soon. My kid would be 7 years old. I'm in my second year of college, and am having a ton of financial problems thanks to my parents' divorce a year ago. Yes, there is adoption, but I would still not go through 8th grade pregnant. Anyone who would force a pregnancy onto a rape victim, especially one that is young, should be raped themselves, and just that much should be enough to teach them. If it isn't, then I'm pretty sure the person doesn't count as emotionally human. Black Dove In a message dated 5/23/01 11:24:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: << What if a woman's raped? I never said that I was all for killing a bunch of babies, but I believe that women should be allowed to choose for themselves. Rape is also something that should let a woman choose what to do with pregnancy. Do you have any idea how many women will get illegal abortions if it ever becomes forbidden? These are things that should be considered, and I sure as hell believe that if a 13 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant, her education is at stake, and her body cannot handle carrying a baby, it should be her choice whether or not she wants to keep it. I guess what is difficult about this is a lot of people have different views on conception and when the baby becomes it's own individual being. Otherwise, I'm not really trying to be a "sore loser" or whatever, but George Bush should reconsider the death penality first if he is going to try and pass a law against abortion. >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:23:46 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR 13 Oh yeah, 13 year olds in arranged marriages...meaning their wedding night was like a rape, but they were expected to suck it up and bear children. Living in a different society now, just to let you know. Black Dove In a message dated 5/23/01 11:24:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: << If "if" was a 5th we'd all be drunk. It's a moral decision best left up to the individual and doctor. 100 years ago 13 year olds were married and starting families so I guess they handled it pretty well. The point is how many women get them for no other reason other then they don't want the kid? They weren't raped, attacked, their health isn't at risk, they could survive the ordeal, how many do it cause it's a easy way out? >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:24:59 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Kidney Thieves Love Kidneythieves!!! :) Black Dove n a message dated 5/23/01 11:24:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: << I'm just curious... anyone on the list a Kidne%hieves fan?? I know they aren't very well known... so if you have no idea who the hell I'm talkin about... go to http://www.kidneythieves.net They're k i n d a like NIN with a female singer... pretty damn spiffy. hehe :) - -over and out- - --LiNdSaY >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:27:28 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #211 And imagine if they counted sperm? lol...Millions and millions of possible people are killed every time a guy ejaculates....masturbation would be criminal... :) Black Dove In a message dated 5/23/01 11:24:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: << Yeah and they may as well put ovulation on there as an abortion too, because an egg that could have been a person disintegrates and slips out the the uterus along with the rest of the lining. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:32:19 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: abstinence Where are the parents in all this? Kids will have sex. I would rather they have protection, because no matter how many times a teacher says "You shouldn't have sex because..." kids will have biological impulses and raging hormones. Black Dove In a message dated 5/24/01 1:54:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: << Next, if our schools focused on teaching abstinence as much as how to wear a jimmy hat and where to get birth control these little girls and boys would know to make the right decision and not get them selves into trouble and be outcast by their WHOLE family (i.e. not just the males). >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:33:16 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: Ani DiFranco I love that song. Makes me teary-eyed everytime I hear it...I'm going to go listen to that album now... Black Dove In a message dated 5/24/01 1:54:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: << Yep. I like that song by Ani DiFranco too ..."Hello Birmingham". It is based on real events. >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:35:00 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: volcano ash CO2 So, it's ok for us to add to that, you're saying? :) Black Dove In a message dated 5/24/01 1:54:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: << Well the fact that a volcano spews 1000's of times the co2 we HAVE EVER spewed into the atmosphere must not mean anything to you. If BUsh had let these monstrous environmental rules go, then millions of Americans who eat and have homes because of "Evil Industry" would be out of jobs. >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:45:27 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #211 In a message dated 5/26/2001 12:44:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Dracovixen@aol.com writes: > And imagine if they counted sperm? lol...Millions and millions of possible > people are killed every time a guy ejaculates....masturbation would be > criminal... :) > Black Dove > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Onan! You barbarian! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 20:46:34 -0800 From: Anij Subject: Re: abstinence Abstinence only drive people crazy from lack of sex. Condoms are not a sure way either because condoms break. there is no absolute sure way to prevent from getting anything or getting pregnant. I say do whatever you have to but be safe. and fuck abortion unless circumstances call it but of course thats my opinon. - -=Anij=- Dracovixen@aol.com wrote: > Where are the parents in all this? Kids will have sex. I would rather they > have protection, because no matter how many times a teacher says "You > shouldn't have sex because..." kids will have biological impulses and raging > hormones. > Black Dove > > In a message dated 5/24/01 1:54:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: > > << Next, if our schools focused on > teaching abstinence as much as how to wear a jimmy hat and where to get birth > control these little girls and boys would know to make the right decision and > not get them selves into trouble and be outcast by their WHOLE family (i.e. > not just the males). >> - -- ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ~ An it harm none,~ ~ Do what you will~ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:48:45 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: volcano ash CO2 In a message dated 5/26/2001 12:44:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Dracovixen@aol.com writes: > So, it's ok for us to add to that, you're saying? :) > Black Dove > > In a message dated 5/24/01 1:54:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: > > << Well the fact that > a volcano spews 1000's of times the co2 we HAVE EVER spewed into the > atmosphere must not mean anything to you. If BUsh had let these monstrous > environmental rules go, then millions of Americans who eat and have homes > because of "Evil Industry" would be out of jobs. >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ever see the footage of what it was like for a wide area around Mount St Helens after it blew. CO2 emissions could eventually lead to that for everybody. Yay! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:50:48 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR 13 In a message dated 5/26/2001 12:44:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Dracovixen@aol.com writes: > Oh yeah, 13 year olds in arranged marriages...meaning their wedding night > was > like a rape, but they were expected to suck it up and bear children. Living > in a different society now, just to let you know. > Black Dove > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > The youngest on modern record was a 7 year old Peruvian girl...she was > raped by her uncle. I guess she was happy to spend her entire adolescence ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:59:35 -0400 From: Elliot Dale Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #211 Ok, it is definitely time to whip out some Monty Python here: {{Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great... If a sperm is wasted, god gets quite irate...}} Dracovixen@aol.com wrote: > And imagine if they counted sperm? lol...Millions and millions of possible > people are killed every time a guy ejaculates....masturbation would be > criminal... :) > Black Dove > > > In a message dated 5/23/01 11:24:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: > > << Yeah and they may as well put ovulation on there as an abortion too, > because an egg that could have been a person disintegrates and slips out the > the uterus along with the rest of the lining. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 01:17:49 EDT From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: Re: abstinence First off...there is NO reason EVER for abortion. Even if your raped. Even if the doctors say your going to die if you dont have an abortion. Theres no excuse you can make up to rationalize it. If I got pregnant from a rapist I would hav ethe child. If the doctors said that I would die if I had it...I would have it. Theres NO anylization for the slaughter of an innocent. Hav e a nice day! ~Gypsy ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #218 ***********************************