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angry-psychos-digest      Wednesday, May 9 2001      Volume 06 : Number 186



                               Today's Subjects:
                               -----------------
  Poe meet and greet  - 11 pair of tickets left            [Dan98908@aol.com]
  Re: NPR  Child Stabbing Update  ["sp00k@poe.org" <usscvn65@frontiernet.net]
  Re: NPR Tarot in the Kaballah                          [Dracovixen@aol.com]
  Re: NPR Re: On the whole, you all suck  ["Robert A Darke" <Robert.A.Darke@]
  Re: songs                                              [Dracovixen@aol.com]
  Re: Tori                                               [Dracovixen@aol.com]
  Re: disturbing profile in the ward                     [Dracovixen@aol.com]
  Re: Tori and Courtney and Professional Widow      [LiveThruThisVow@aol.com]
  Re: (no subject)                                      [WardWorthy1@aol.com]
  Re: NPR Tori and Trent dating                     [LiveThruThisVow@aol.com]
  Re: Tori and Courtney and Professional Widow      [LiveThruThisVow@aol.com]
  Re: NPR-is yahoo.com down?                               [Dan98908@aol.com]
  RE: On the whole, you all suck   [Groundskeeper Willy <k_lee023@yahoo.com>]
  Re: NPR  Child Stabbing Update                      [JezebeIlnHeII@aol.com]
  NPR: my  Signature                    ["Notajunkie" <Notajunkie@yahoo.com>]
  RE: Fruit of Eden                     ["Joel Schwartz" <cthulhu9@ucla.edu>]
  Re: Returned mail - sub-mail.com     ["monkeygrrl _" <jandymo@hotmail.com>]
  Re: Reminder for 3 Poe songs....                      [Freakbaby101@cs.com]
  POE/DM Tour Page Updated with New Dates and New Attendees    [EXej@aol.com]
  Re: Tori and Courtney and Professional Widow          [Freakbaby101@cs.com]
  RE: NPR Tarot in the Kaballah         ["Joel Schwartz" <cthulhu9@ucla.edu>]
  Subject: your ideas for a psycho's version of the hey pretty video  [Jenni]
  NPR: Poe a witch?/Illuminatus!       [Jennifer Ralston <jensound@home.com>]
  Free POE show Atlanta            ["KyL Cobb" <kyl_the_paladin@hotmail.com>]
  top 3 POE songs             ["A. Stephen Apsley" <lotus_blade@hotmail.com>]
  Re: Lyric discrepencies           ["ABIGAIL DRAKE" <porinthia@hotmail.com>]
  Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #185  ["ABIGAIL DRAKE" <porinthia@hotmail.com>]

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 18:55:51 EDT
From: Dan98908@aol.com
Subject: Poe meet and greet  - 11 pair of tickets left

There are 11 pairs of tickets left.  If you can be at the KDGE Corporate 
party at 8:00PM Friday night in Dallas.

I need to know your name and the names of your guests if you want to go.

Those of you who have already let me know----if you don't get a confirming 
email TONIGHT then email me again with your names and those of anyone in your 
group.

Wish I could be there with you!  Have fun!

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 18:54:37 -0400
From: "sp00k@poe.org" <usscvn65@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: NPR  Child Stabbing Update

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "AT" <mb882@earthlink.net>

<Snip>

> We need tough Knife Control legislation  , and we need it now dammit.We
need
> these knives off the street.AT

<End Snip>

HAH!! that won't stop no junkie with a c00kin sp00n.

sp00k   etc   ...

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:03:23 EDT
From: Dracovixen@aol.com
Subject: Re: NPR Tarot in the Kaballah

In a message dated 5/8/01 12:43:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes:

<< Madonna
 now "practices" Kaballah and the Wiccan's and others claim to derive a lot
 from it (aka Tarot) >>

Funny, but I don't think that sounds right...tarot from the Kaballah (or 
Quabalah, or whatever) :)...I seem to have read something historical 
somewhere about the origin of tarot...I'll have to find it again...what's 
your source for tarot having originated in the Kaballah? 
Black Dove

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 17:05:14 -0700
From: "Robert A Darke" <Robert.A.Darke@aexp.com>
Subject: Re: NPR Re: On the whole, you all suck

Here I was defending the list... and yet you're managing to talk ME out of it.
What's up with that?  8-)


Rob




From: "Edie Sedgewick" <taxine@yahoo.com>@smoe.org on 05/08/2001 03:26 PM

Sent by:  owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org


To:   angry-psychos@smoe.org
cc:
Subject:  NPR Re: On the whole, you all suck



>Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 07:30:05 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Groundskeeper Willy <k_lee023@yahoo.com>
>Subject: On the whole, you all suck
>
>You know what? There are so many people on this
>list who are pompous assholes...
<snip>

Hey Groundskeeper Willy--

Get used to it, or go away.  Angry-Psychos mail is on
the whole very boring and depressing and nasty.  It's
been this way for 5 years.  It's not going to change.
Make yr e-mail program filter out NPRs, learn to
recognize and delete threads that people have not
marked NPR but are, and grin and bear it; the other
option (and one I'd hope you'd take) is to fuck off.

P.S. It certainly is "licking your lips."

Twalen
Fleety
MonkeyMan
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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:23:04 EDT
From: Dracovixen@aol.com
Subject: Re: songs

Now, there's an awesome promo...Angry Johnny, Walk the Walk, Haunted, 
Control, and....Wild!!!! Let's go Wild!!! :)
Black Dove

In a message dated 5/8/01 6:59:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes:

<< Angry Johnny  w/ 5 votes
 Walk the Walk w/ 5
 Haunted        w/ 5
 Controle        w/ 5
 AND a 3 way TIE between
 That Day      w/ 3
 Wild             w/ 3
 Not a Virgin  w/ 3
 
 There are still a bunch of songs that are in close seconds to these so hurry 
 up and CAST YOUR VOTE NOW!! YOUR vote could change what the publics first 
 impression of POE is!! Dont miss this chance!        =^)
 
 ~Gypsy
 
 P.S.  Just email me a list of your top 3 POE songs you think the public 
 should hear to cast your vote!

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:24:51 EDT
From: Dracovixen@aol.com
Subject: Re: Tori

In a message dated 5/8/01 6:59:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes:

<< and maynard james keenan and micheal stipe and... >>

Maynard likes to sing her lullabyes... :) I thought that was so sweet.
Black Dove

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:41:06 EDT
From: Dracovixen@aol.com
Subject: Re: disturbing profile in the ward

In a message dated 5/8/01 6:59:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes:

<< Lord knows she belongs there.
 
 Touche
 - -Mike        >>
    
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Black Dove, who likes her one-liner

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 20:05:34 EDT
From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com
Subject: Re: Tori and Courtney and Professional Widow

In a message dated 5/8/01 10:03:45 AM Central Daylight Time, 
Robert.A.Darke@aexp.com writes:


> Is it just me, or is that just LOW?!  The thing about Courtney convincing 
> Kurt
> to kill himself, etc.  Yeah, god knows that if my husband killed himself, 
> I'd
> love to have the world accuse me of doing it, talking him into it, etc.
> Courtney lost her husband, partner, etc.  

    Yeah, that's just like how people said she got him hooked on heroin and 
why so many people relate her to Nancy Spungen. However, it is no one's fault 
for getting someone to do drugs unless they literally shove them down their 
throat with a gun to their head or put something in their drink. It was his 
choice to do drugs, and he killed himself. Kurt Cobain was always suicidal, 
and no matter who thinks Courtney killed him needs a reality check, the man 
was so suicidal he was penning a suicide note weekly and locking himself up 
in the bathroom with his guns.

~*~ Love, love, is a verb, love is a doing word~ Massive Attack

~*~ Adventure, excitement, the Jedi craves not these things~ Silent Bob

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 20:10:37 EDT
From: WardWorthy1@aol.com
Subject: Re: (no subject)

In a message dated 5/8/01 4:25:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
kitty@koufukuron.com writes:

<< Three good books about Wicca:
 
 Drawing Down the Moon (can't remember author)
 Wicca: A Guide to the Solitary Practitioner (Scott Cunningham)
 To Ride a Silver Broomstick (Ravenwolf)
 
 Those should get you started, I think those are the correct titles and
 authors. >>

Again, I recommend "Positive Magic" by Marion Weinstein as well as "Earth 
Power" by Scott Cunningham.  Both are great books and are published by 
Llewellyn Publishing.
Ww1

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 20:13:25 EDT
From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com
Subject: Re: NPR Tori and Trent dating

In a message dated 5/8/01 1:48:38 PM Central Daylight Time, 
blackat@mail.ukans.edu writes:


> and maynard james keenan and micheal stipe and...
> 

    Don't forget that Michael Stipe is also a VERY close friend to Courtney 
as well.

~*~ Love, love, is a verb, love is a doing word~ Massive Attack

~*~ Adventure, excitement, the Jedi craves not these things~ Silent Bob

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 20:15:09 EDT
From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com
Subject: Re: Tori and Courtney and Professional Widow

In a message dated 5/8/01 1:55:34 PM Central Daylight Time, 
blackat@mail.ukans.edu writes:


> The first one is pretty valid, supposedly. It was made by the investigator 
> 

    Which happened to be hired by Courtney Love's DAD because she wouldn't 
let him see Francis. Check into the backround of the investigator.

~*~ Love, love, is a verb, love is a doing word~ Massive Attack

~*~ Adventure, excitement, the Jedi craves not these things~ Silent Bob

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:20:38 EDT
From: Dan98908@aol.com
Subject: Re: NPR-is yahoo.com down?

In a message dated 5/7/01 4:53:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
thegeneral@knology.net writes:


> 
> I can't get www.yahoo.com to come up. Is the site down? I can access any 
> other
> site.
> Living too long is fatal.
> 
> 
> 

3. Exodus: Explosion causes Yahoo stall

Web hosting company Exodus Communications said an
explosion partially cut off its power supply Monday,
leading to temporary service interruptions for some
customers, including Yahoo. The company said the incident
cut off its power supply from Pacific Gas & Electric to
one of its Internet Data Centers in Sunnyvale, Calif. Its
backup generators failed to take over, leading to an
outage that lasted for about an hour, beginning at 2:50 p.m. PDT.
May 8, 2001, 12:45 p.m. PT
http://two.digital.cnet.com/cgi-bin2/flo?y=eBmn0HnVC0U0b3T0A4

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 18:36:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Groundskeeper Willy <k_lee023@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: On the whole, you all suck

First of all, I would like to say that my emails
were not "obsenity-laden." I don't see how
putting a :) after an insult is an attempt at
humor, and so yes, I did take it personally. And
yes, I think that there might have been one swear
word in each of the two message I sent you, dear
condescending Steve, but I think you need to look
up the word "laden." And everything I said in my
message to the psychos still stands: it is not
necessary to destroy another's point of view in
order to appreciate the music and get your point
across. If y'all feel like keeping up the
practice have fun with it.

And my name is Willy.


I tried with the hapless :) & ;) to make my reply
come across as tongue-in-cheek but Kendra
obviously took it very seriously considering the
obscenity-laden emails sent to my personal
account.
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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:39:18 EDT
From: JezebeIlnHeII@aol.com
Subject: Re: NPR  Child Stabbing Update

In a message dated 5/8/01 2:21:09 PM Alaskan Daylight Time, 
mb882@earthlink.net writes:


> We need tough Knife Control legislation  , and we need it now dammit.We need
> these knives off the street.AT
> 
> 

People will always have a weapon of choice. It's not the guns .. its not the 
knives, its the individual choices. It is legal to carry a  gun in Alaska . 
You don't have to have a license . You just cannot carry a concealed weapon. 
We have very few gun problems . Last week I read in the paper that a 
cigarette started a fire. Someone wrote to the editor and suggested that the 
cigarette be arrested. I found that humerous. What is not so humerous is that 
everyone has an excuse for everything and wants someone to blame. In the 
situation with this particular criminal .... he had previously threatened to 
kill children before they grew into a " life of sin ". He's a nutcase. Lock 
him up .. throw away the key. It wasn't the knife.. it was HIM !

~angry jez

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:53:55 -0400
From: "Notajunkie" <Notajunkie@yahoo.com>
Subject: NPR: my  Signature

- -----Original Message-----
Ummmm... I think you have the profile confused with a signature...  hmmmm.
Interesting.



YES, you did...

That is the Sig I use for all my e-mail...Calm down...AFI is one of my
favorite bands...

I'm going to Warped back home in Milwaukee, WI...any APs going be their??
message me, we can meet up...


see? here it comes again   lol
 |
 |
 |
\|/
"Overwhelmed with a deep repulsion for sights
seen so commonly, now I have come to be a
walking enmity, for humanity, the human
blasphemy, I'll end the world tonight."
			--AFI "Smile"

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 18:57:56 -0700
From: "Joel Schwartz" <cthulhu9@ucla.edu>
Subject: RE: Fruit of Eden

Hey all, did you realize that the garden of eden is located on the Euphrates
river (according to the bible). Apples tend to grow in coldert climates. If
one takes the bible seriousely or indeed aplies logic to it, then it is
highly improbably that the fruit was an apple.
Joel

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Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 02:06:17 -0000
From: "monkeygrrl _" <jandymo@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Returned mail - sub-mail.com

has anyone figured this problem out yet? -

>There is no one here by the username of ""





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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:10:46 EDT
From: Freakbaby101@cs.com
Subject: Re: Reminder for 3 Poe songs....

i agree that day is a rockin song!!!!!

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:14:09 EDT
From: EXej@aol.com
Subject: POE/DM Tour Page Updated with New Dates and New Attendees

Once again I've updated http://houseofleaves.4t.com/house.html and 
http://houseofleaves.4t.com/house2.html

Check the page for the new LA and Jones Beach dates...

If you are attending any of these shows, please contact me so that I can add 
you to the list...

Erik


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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:22:40 EDT
From: Freakbaby101@cs.com
Subject: Re: Tori and Courtney and Professional Widow

in my opinion courtney may have helped in a sense to contribute to kurt 
ending his own life but i think she helped keep him around longer to begin 
with they are both loners and clicked together and really got each other  and 
could not have done that with anyone else but with any mental problem the 
ones you love make you craziest and are sometimes not enough to keep you 
around people defiantly beat up courtney way to much on this and do not stop 
and think how this hurt her and their child she is a person not just her 
image in the music world

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:42:43 -0700
From: "Joel Schwartz" <cthulhu9@ucla.edu>
Subject: RE: NPR Tarot in the Kaballah

I was arguing that the two have NOTHING to do with each other. Tarot is a
form of divination, something considered a sin by Judaism.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org
[mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Dracovixen@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 4:03 PM
To: angry-psychos@smoe.org
Subject: Re: NPR Tarot in the Kaballah



In a message dated 5/8/01 12:43:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes:

<< Madonna
 now "practices" Kaballah and the Wiccan's and others claim to derive a lot
 from it (aka Tarot) >>

Funny, but I don't think that sounds right...tarot from the Kaballah (or
Quabalah, or whatever) :)...I seem to have read something historical
somewhere about the origin of tarot...I'll have to find it again...what's
your source for tarot having originated in the Kaballah?
Black Dove

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 23:36:28 -0400
From: Jennifer Ralston <jensound@home.com>
Subject: Subject: your ideas for a psycho's version of the hey pretty video

I can do a music video for my media studies class. I was thinking of
doing two
videos... one for the original version and one for the edit. anyone have
any ideas?

nah, i think we've all thoroughly established that the mud wrestling
says it all.  =)

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Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 23:42:07 -0400
From: Jennifer Ralston <jensound@home.com>
Subject: NPR: Poe a witch?/Illuminatus!

I'm not completely sure on this, but then again I kind of am.  In a book

called Adam, Eve, and the Serpent, Elaine Pagels wrote that "tree" in
hebrew
is the same word for "spine"

well in modern hebrew,
tree: etz
spine: amod shidra

so yeah, to-may-to, to-mah-to.  maybe elaine is referring to hebrew
version 1.0 (aka biblical).
_________________________________________________________________
"Joshua Panther" <skabba@cultureoverdose.com>
Subject: Re: NPR - wiccans and kabbalah and stars, oh my

Mmmm...The almighty Illumiatus Trilogy.  That book changed my life.
Fantastic stuff.  The whole thing is based on reality but it's complete
and
utter fiction...or do they just want you to think that?

Hail Eris!

Hail Eris!  I didn't want the story to end.

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Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 03:50:12 
From: "KyL Cobb" <kyl_the_paladin@hotmail.com>
Subject: Free POE show Atlanta

That's right, Boys and Girls...

New Rock 99X right here in Atlanta will bring you a free show with POE, 
Tantric and Powder Finger on 25 May!!!!!!!

This a really cool way to kick of your Memorial Day!!!

You must be a 99X freeloader (sign up now on my web site www.99x.com) but 
other than that, the show is free!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rejoice!!!!!!

Pax,

KyL
99X Atlanta
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Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 21:03:02 -0700
From: "A. Stephen Apsley" <lotus_blade@hotmail.com>
Subject: top 3 POE songs

well...i picked 5, but i guess i can narrow it down to 3.  here are the 
five, but the top 3 are capitalized.  i tried too give it variety to show 
the new listeners how versatile she is.

BEAUTIFUL GIRL
HAUNTED
FINGERTIPS
Dolphin
If You Were Here


I know fingertips isn't as widely loved as some others, but i think it's an 
excellent track, and it's my favorite from Hello.  whatever.  hopefully at 
least Haunted gets on there.  hope to see some APs at the Sacramento show.  
later

- -Andrew

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Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 00:38:24 -0400
From: "ABIGAIL DRAKE" <porinthia@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Lyric discrepencies

  Weird....that's what I thought she said too....at least I know I'm not the 
only crazy one

Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 07:17:41 -0400
From: Matt Latham <mlatham@gigamatic.com>
Subject: Re: Lyric discrepencies

Until I read the actual lyrics it sounded to me like "while you were the
king of the house"


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Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 00:45:39 -0400
From: "ABIGAIL DRAKE" <porinthia@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #185

   Ok I have been w/o a working puter for awhile....thank the powers that be 
I got one  in time to order my t-shirts...but someone please fill me in on 
this CD thing?  And why is everyone debating religion? Does is it matter if 
Poe is or isn't a witch? ....SHE'S A GODDESS! :)
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