From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #184 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Tuesday, May 8 2001 Volume 06 : Number 184 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPR - Webpage problem... [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Poe a witch? [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Poe a witch? ["Bad Bender" ] Re: Poe a witch? [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Poe a witch? ["Bad Bender" ] RE: Poe a witch? ["Joel Schwartz" ] Re: (no subject) ["lunasea" ] Re: Poe a witch? [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Lyric discrepencies [Matt Latham ] Re: Poe a witch [Fishymessiah ] RE: Poe a witch? ["Notajunkie" ] Hello All !! [Faerie Aeone ] Re: 3 Poe Songs [Dracovixen@aol.com] Re: Lyric discrepencies [Groundskeeper Willy ] Re: Poe: "I Can't Say No" Song ["Robert A Darke" ] Re: Control Remix ["Robert A Darke" ] Disturbing profile in the ward ["Notajunkie" ] Re: Lyric discrepencies ["Robert A Darke" ] Re: Tori and Courtney and Professional Widow ["Robert A Darke" Ok. I've tried three times now to send my picture to the specified email > address to get it on the page and I keep getting failure notifications. > Anyone know what's up? > > Mr. Black Cat Man > > "It's beyond my control." -Valmont > ******************** Heh, heh...It's an age old problam at that site. I sent my pic in and had all but given up on the idea that it would ever show up there. Lo and behold, months and months later it finally appeared. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 02:04:19 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe a witch? In a message dated 5/8/2001 12:26:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cthulhu9@ucla.edu writes: > Regarding the Jewish star, > it has nothing at all to do with Yin/Yang or ouroboros. It was simply the > war emblem that was on David's sheild. It is a celebration of victory and > independence, nothing more. > Did anyone see Pi? The Hasidic Jews were looking for the name of God encoded > in the Torah. This is Kabbalh, a numerological form called Gemitryah. There > is also an heirarchy that's supposed to bring one to GOd that is in the form > of the Tree of Life. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how do you presume it (star of David) has nothing to do with Ouroboros? That symbol (which was probably the origin of yin/yang) was commonplace among ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Phonecians and other cultures which the ancient Jews came into contact with on a regular basis. Most references to such things were not allowed in the Old (or New) Testaments as written and surviving today, but it doesn't mean they were unknown among Jews, or even taboo before the scriptures were written down and codified. Even Baal was not taboo among Jews for a long time. You go on to mention a connection of the Tree of Life to the Cabala...the ouroboros figures prominently in the tree of life as practiced by Egyptian alchemists (the Jews weren't the only ones into cabalas) and others. It is from these occult practices that the tarot developed. The instruction gleaned from the "path of the tarot" is surprisingly similar to that found in Christianity. It is merely my assertion that these prectices were all interconnected among various middle eastern peoples, of which the Jews are probably the most prominent. From the online Webster's: often capitalized [Medieval Latin cabbala] First appeared 1521 1 : a medieval and modern system of Jewish theosophy, mysticism, and thaumaturgy marked by belief in creation through emanation and a cipher method of interpreting Scripture 2 a : a traditional, esoteric, occult, or secret matter b : esoteric doctrine or mysterious art -- cab*a*lism (noun) -- cab*a*lis*tic (adjective) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 01:16:06 -0500 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: Re: Poe a witch? huh? hey look I'm a simple man here, speak english dammit! Jews, wiccans, kaballah...oh come on, can't we all get along? Quit speaking that jibber jabber! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Schwartz" To: ; ; Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:22 PM Subject: RE: Poe a witch? > > Actually, no. Qbala, or Kaballah is purely a Jewish creation. It was a > reaction to Rabbinic Judaism that was a purely intellectual endeavor. The > Kabbalists sought to to find a spirituallity that they felt the Rabbis > lacked. Isaac Luria, or the Baal Shem Tov (Keeper of the good name) created > the Zohar, the book of the Kaballah. It is basically Jewish mysticism. Now > it has become something hip because of it's metaphysical beliefs. Madonna > now "practices" Kaballah and the Wiccan's and others claim to derive a lot > from it (aka Tarot). Though the teachings are mystical in nature, they are > still based on the Jewish beleif. In this beleif it is blasphemy to look at > tarot cards or any such "psychic" phenomenon because it is in essence > idolatry. Any connection of Wicca (a pagan religion) and Kabbalah (a > mystical form of ethical monotheism) is made up. Regarding the Jewish star, > it has nothing at all to do with Yin/Yang or ouroboros. It was simply the > war emblem that was on David's sheild. It is a celebration of victory and > independence, nothing more. > Did anyone see Pi? The Hasidic Jews were looking for the name of God encoded > in the Torah. This is Kabbalh, a numerological form called Gemitryah. There > is also an heirarchy that's supposed to bring one to GOd that is in the form > of the Tree of Life. > I'm sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but this is the truth. Read a history > book or textbook. The things you find in the "The Psychic Eye" and other > such New-Age stores are pretty apocryphal. These are the same places that > publish "The Necronomican" full with introductory note by author Abdul > Alhazred and ways to ressurect the elder God Cthulhu. Unfortunately, > Cthulhu, Abdul, and the Necronomican are the creations of H.P. Lovecraft who > lived in the 30's. It is pure fiction. Borrowed for the purpose of sounding > "mystical." Same with Kabblah. Borrowed. No real connection. > Joel > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > The Qbala is a middle eastern thing as much as a Jewish thing...the tarot > > derives from it, among other things. One of the aspects of the tarot is > the > > "paths of the Qbala" which form aspects of the tree of life. This also > > relates to the ouroboros and much of ancient alchemy. What about that 6 > > pointed "Star of David" that is a symbol of the Jews? Not that far fetched > > to imagine a 5 pointed variant. Even the "seven chakras" of oriental > > mysticism are represented by a seven pointed star in the tree of life. It > > interlinks with astrology's trines and squares, this seven pointed > star...a > > square and a triangle overlapping. A pentangle would come just after the > > square (four points) and just before the star of David in the progression > > toward indivuiduality from the yin/yang or the ouroboros. The pentangle is > > unique in this regard in that it is not formed of a combination of other > > angles, except possibly the triangle and the yin/yang...which would > > indicate the presence of a different spiritual being other than the "One". > > There is a star for numerology too...9 points formed by 3 triangles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 02:20:49 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe a witch? In a message dated 5/8/2001 2:10:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, thegeneral@knology.net writes: > huh? hey look I'm a simple man here, speak english dammit! Jews, wiccans, > kaballah...oh come on, can't we all get along? Quit speaking that jibber > jabber! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heh, heh...fdiuhre0iuvhvidfuh rdnrdhgriuhv098dufm99-fu-fduvr-v-8ufd! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 01:49:14 -0500 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: Re: Poe a witch? eh? I pity to foo that messes with Mr.T! :) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; ; ; Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 1:20 AM Subject: Re: Poe a witch? > > In a message dated 5/8/2001 2:10:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > thegeneral@knology.net writes: > > > > huh? hey look I'm a simple man here, speak english dammit! Jews, wiccans, > > kaballah...oh come on, can't we all get along? Quit speaking that jibber > > jabber! > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > heh, heh...fdiuhre0iuvhvidfuh rdnrdhgriuhv098dufm99-fu-fduvr-v-8ufd! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 00:23:31 -0700 From: "Joel Schwartz" Subject: RE: Poe a witch? THat may be websters definition, but the word Kabalah is a hebrew word, meaning mysticism. It may have later been generalized to include other traditions. But things like tarot and alchemy and prohibited by Kabbalists. No, Jews weren't the only Mystics, but Kabalah MEANS jewish mysticism. It was invented sometime in the 15th century CE. -----Original Message----- From: KrodKnid@aol.com [mailto:KrodKnid@aol.com] Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:04 PM To: cthulhu9@ucla.edu; KrodKnid@aol.com; Prozackitty16@aol.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: Poe a witch? In a message dated 5/8/2001 12:26:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cthulhu9@ucla.edu writes: Regarding the Jewish star, it has nothing at all to do with Yin/Yang or ouroboros. It was simply the war emblem that was on David's sheild. It is a celebration of victory and independence, nothing more. Did anyone see Pi? The Hasidic Jews were looking for the name of God encoded in the Torah. This is Kabbalh, a numerological form called Gemitryah. There is also an heirarchy that's supposed to bring one to GOd that is in the form of the Tree of Life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how do you presume it (star of David) has nothing to do with Ouroboros? That symbol (which was probably the origin of yin/yang) was commonplace among ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Phonecians and other cultures which the ancient Jews came into contact with on a regular basis. Most references to such things were not allowed in the Old (or New) Testaments as written and surviving today, but it doesn't mean they were unknown among Jews, or even taboo before the scriptures were written down and codified. Even Baal was not taboo among Jews for a long time. You go on to mention a connection of the Tree of Life to the Cabala...the ouroboros figures prominently in the tree of life as practiced by Egyptian alchemists (the Jews weren't the only ones into cabalas) and others. It is from these occult practices that the tarot developed. The instruction gleaned from the "path of the tarot" is surprisingly similar to that found in Christianity. It is merely my assertion that these prectices were all interconnected among various middle eastern peoples, of which the Jews are probably the most prominent. From the online Webster's: often capitalized [Medieval Latin cabbala] First appeared 1521 1 : a medieval and modern system of Jewish theosophy, mysticism, and thaumaturgy marked by belief in creation through emanation and a cipher method of interpreting Scripture 2 a : a traditional, esoteric, occult, or secret matter b : esoteric doctrine or mysterious art -- cab*a*lism (noun) -- cab*a*lis*tic (adjective) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 04:16:13 -0400 From: "lunasea" Subject: Re: (no subject) Three good books about Wicca: Drawing Down the Moon (can't remember author) Wicca: A Guide to the Solitary Practitioner (Scott Cunningham) To Ride a Silver Broomstick (Ravenwolf) Those should get you started, I think those are the correct titles and authors. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Groundskeeper Willy" To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 8:57 PM Subject: Re: (no subject) > > Girl, if you want to learn Wiccan read a book > about drawing down the moon. Staring at a Poe > cover isn't going to let you in on any spiritual > answers! At least not any Wiccan ones. You see, > after a 36-hour staring session I did personally > come to see "the light," and I've started my own > religion because of it. Just look up The Temple > of Poe of Unfoolish Latter-Day Saints in the > Tallahassee phone book and I'll give you > directions there. > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 06:58:29 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe a witch? In a message dated 5/8/2001 3:28:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cthulhu9@ucla.edu writes: > THat may be websters definition, but the word Kabalah is a hebrew word, > meaning mysticism. It may have later been generalized to include other > traditions. But things like tarot and alchemy and prohibited by Kabbalists. > No, Jews weren't the only Mystics, but Kabalah MEANS jewish mysticism. It > was invented sometime in the 15th century CE. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ca*bal [1] (noun) [French cabale cabala, intrigue, cabal, from Medieval Latin cabbala cabala, from Late Hebrew qabbalah, literally, received (lore)] First appeared 1614 : the artifices and intrigues of a group of persons secretly united to bring about an overturn or usurpation esp. in public affairs; also : a group engaged in such artifices and intrigues synonym see PLOT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you can see, qabbalah means, literally, in late Hebrew, "received"...referring to the reception of lore. It is only by association that it is taken to mean Hebrew mysticism. At the time the word came into use by Jews, it also had taken on meanings in French and medieval Latin...probably because of the activities of the Kabbalists. And whether or not they prohibited the teaching of tarot and alchemy, these taboo traditions had long partaken of the study of the tree of life that the Kabbalists are so fond of. Interestingly enough, the paths in the tree of life that is taught by tarot occultists all have Hebrew names, such as "tiphareth", which refers to the higher spiritual state of beauty in its creative manefestation. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 07:17:41 -0400 From: Matt Latham Subject: Re: Lyric discrepencies Until I read the actual lyrics it sounded to me like "while you were the king of the house" > From: JezebeIlnHeII@aol.com > Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:24:53 EDT > To: angry-psychos@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Lyric discrepencies > > > In a message dated 5/7/01 5:07:24 PM Alaskan Daylight Time, > k_lee023@yahoo.com writes: > > >> Plus, in control, everybody tells me she's saying >> >> "while you were licking your lips" >> >> but it doesn't sound anything like that! It >> sounds like "while you were looking in the house" >> > > really ? Hmm... I definately hear " while you were licking your lips " .... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:03:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Fishymessiah Subject: Re: Poe a witch For all of the "tree of knowledge" enthusiasts, all those interested in female spiritual empowerment, all pagans, all wiccans, all historians and all religious studies majors read: Inanna, Queen of Hean and Earth by Diane Wolkstein and Samuel Noah Kramer (some myths and hymns to the Sumerian Goddess Inanna). Feminist Spirituality by Johanna Stuckey (a short survey and women and feminism in monotheistic traditions: judaism, christianity, islam and modern feminist goddess worship). That will give you some interesting ideas about trees. Although not so much about pentacles. Luck Lesley Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:16:16 -0400 From: "Notajunkie" Subject: RE: Poe a witch? - -----Original Message----- > The Qbala is a middle eastern thing as much as a Jewish thing...the tarot > derives from it Alright, as far as I know, the origins of Tarot are unknown. It used to be a card game in ancient Egypt, with only choosen few knowing how to play and there is evidence to suggest it excited still well before that. I've read a few books and webpages while learning to read the Tarot, and I've never heard Qbala mentioned anywhere in the texts about origin. "Overwhelmed with a deep repulsion for sights seen so commonly, now I have come to be a walking enmity, for humanity, the human blasphemy, I'll end the world tonight." --AFI "Smile" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 06:26:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Faerie Aeone Subject: Hello All !! Thought I'd stop in for my "Hello" visit. Being new to the post I've been reading and watching posts and thought it about time to introduce. Faerie Aeone Lake Charles, Louisiana Can't wait for my first Poe Concert! ===== Faerie Aeone * If we fail to nourish our souls, they wither, and without soul, life ceases to have meaning. * Spread your wings and realize your dreams. Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:48:18 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: 3 Poe Songs I have to say that my three faves are "Wild", "Haunted" and "Control". "Wild" has so many elements coming together in it, and she made it fit really nicely...my bf, who is NOT a Poe fan at all (be nice), actually likes it. I think it would be a great choice for introducing Poe to new people. "Haunted" is so pretty, yet so powerful, and moving, like when she says "I will always miss youuuuuuuuuuu!" and then almost snarling "Come here! No I won't say please!" and then there are great lines like "Pick up all the splinters build a casket for my tears" And then "Control" is just empowering, though her lyrics are often unclear, unless you have studied them religiously. :) I have always loved that song. If I was giving a 5 song EP to some newbies, I have to these three would definitely be on it. Black Dove In a message dated 5/8/01 12:43:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: << HEY PSYCHO'S!!! Heres your chance to help out Poe by letting other people here her!! Please email me a list of your 3 fave poe songs. I'll pick the top 5 after all the votes have been cast. Those 5 will be burned on many, many CD's that I (and other AP's) will be giving out to people at concerts, raves, work, school, etc...or whenever sombody asks about whats playing on my headset! Its very important I find out what POE songs impact you the most so we can do our best job of geting the word out of POE! So c'mon and cast your votes!!! P.S So far the top 5 are: Controle How Long Amazed Walk the Walk Angry Johnny Thanx for all your support!! Keep in mind...some people dont know she exsists!!!!! =^( ~Gypsy >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 07:22:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Groundskeeper Willy Subject: Re: Lyric discrepencies THAT'S what it is!!! It's gotta be! Good looking out. Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:11:10 -0700 From: "Robert A Darke" Subject: Re: Poe: "I Can't Say No" Song Well, actually, I wound up downloading it with Imesh. 8-) But I can't make the consarned thing work!! It just sits there... connected to nothing! What do I do? Lead me great Krod! Rob From: KrodKnid@aol.com on 05/07/2001 07:21 PM EDT To: Robert A Darke/AMER/AEFA/AEXP@AMEX cc: Subject: Re: Poe: "I Can't Say No" Song In a message dated 5/7/2001 6:09:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Robert.A.Darke@aexp.com writes: Ummm... pardon my ignorance, but where can you download these fine programs? Last time I tried to find 'em, I seem to remember coming up empty. ************************ Gnutelliums - Gnutella Download http://clickit.go2net.com/adclick?cid=173493&area=results.directhit&site=DP& clickurl=http://www.gnutelliums.com/ Let me know if you still have trouble and I can possibly send you the installation programs via e-mail attachment. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 07:30:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Groundskeeper Willy Subject: On the whole, you all suck You know what? There are so many people on this list who are pompous assholes, which is a shame because I would like to have funny or intelligent conversations with other Poe fans. I don't want to have anything to do with this list any more. My control remix was not to be taken with any seriousness, but what I get are insults on my intelligence. I'm sorry, Stephen, that my boredom at night led you to be such a dickhead. Won't ever let it happen again. All you people seem to do is criticize others' opinions. Childish... to sit around and squabble over what Poe was meaning by a certain song or verse instead of saying what it means to YOU. This isn't what I expected at all out of Poe fans. Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:39:26 -0700 From: "Robert A Darke" Subject: Re: Control Remix Oh dear god, we're not going to have Destiny's Child quotes filling the list are we? AGAIN? 8-) Rob *'skiddin as well* From: "monkeygrrl _" @smoe.org on 05/08/2001 04:24 AM GMT Please respond to monkeygrrl@poe.org Sent by: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org To: angry-psychos@smoe.org cc: Subject: Re: Control Remix >Yeah I was taking your dough (I was taking your >dough) >Yeah I was taking your dough (I was taking your >dough) >Yeah I was taking your dough tsk, tsk, silly little boy...you have called down the wrath of the grrls...oh, and we don't need your dough, we make more anyway... ;) *anyone who is really wanting to start a for real war over this, sorry, i don't* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:35:36 -0400 From: "Notajunkie" Subject: Disturbing profile in the ward What is up with the profile for "Seyth MCoy Lafal" in the Ward? Can we get this deleted please? "Overwhelmed with a deep repulsion for sights seen so commonly, now I have come to be a walking enmity, for humanity, the human blasphemy, I'll end the world tonight." --AFI "Smile" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:46:10 -0700 From: "Robert A Darke" Subject: Re: Lyric discrepencies I always thought "fix it all," myself. Then again, I also thought "licking your lips." So, who knows. So many hours of driving down the road possibly singing the wrong words. Oh the humanity of it all... Rob From: "Groundskeeper Willy" @smoe.org on 05/07/2001 05:38 PM Sent by: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org To: angry-psychos@smoe.org cc: Subject: Lyric discrepencies yeah, in 5 1/2 Minute Hallway it sounds like "fix it up" or "fix it all" to me. Plus, in control, everybody tells me she's saying "while you were licking your lips" but it doesn't sound anything like that! It sounds like "while you were looking in the house" GWB Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:44:58 -0700 From: "Robert A Darke" Subject: Re: Tori and Courtney and Professional Widow Ok, not to incure the rath of Dracovixen again... but... Is it just me, or is that just LOW?! The thing about Courtney convincing Kurt to kill himself, etc. Yeah, god knows that if my husband killed himself, I'd love to have the world accuse me of doing it, talking him into it, etc. Courtney lost her husband, partner, etc. And people have the nerve to talk about that in interviews like she was the cause... That's just gotta open wounds. That just plain makes me bitter. *goes and burns his Tori cds... well, maybe "Venus" at least... 8-) * Rob From: Dracovixen@aol.com@smoe.org on 05/07/2001 08:04 PM EDT Sent by: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org To: angry-psychos@smoe.org cc: Subject: Re: Tori and Courtney and Professional Widow Tori has uttered Courtney's name, and I seem to remember that each time she was directly asked about it, she never gave a clear answer, such as the following below: "I wrote it about my own experience. I got all that nastiness out. The truth is, if there's a part of you, of Polly [Jean Harvey], of Bjork, or of Courtney Love, which is the black widow, then you will relate to the song. If people don't feel that way, they won't resonate with it." From an interview with Tori from Singapore, January 23, 1996 "As I got to know Widow, I began to really adore her candor. She was so cut off from so many other parts of being, but here she is, deliciously convincing him [i.e., the black widow spider's doomed male mate] to kill himself so she doesn't have to leave fingerprints on his body. She'll make sure he showers before all this begins. She's ready to extract what she wants until he's dead. Whatever his addiction is, she's convincing him that Mother Mary will supply it." From "Voices in the air: spirit tripping with Tori Amos", Musician Magazine, May 1996, by Robert L. Doerschuk "Let's put it this way, Courtney [Love] and I have never spoken. We've never spoken about it and I think it's best kept that way. We have mutual friends. I don't want to put them in a bad position." From "Ready, Steady, Kook", Q magazine, May 1998, by Tom Doyle. Do you realize you're seen as good copy by journalists? "Courtney Love gives good copy." Seeing as you um, mentioned Courtney Love, there's talk that you wrote Professional Widow about her. Is that true? "There's a lot of talk about her. One of my best friends is close with her. I would never dishonor that." From "Shock and bull TORI", Herald Sun newspaper (Australia), July 9, 1998, by Cameron Adams. Just a few that all seemed to point to Courtney Love. I'm not saying that that is all that this song is about, because there are other elements of it that are obviously about Tori herself, but, I have never heard of where she outright says that the song is not about Courtney Love. Can you give me a source? Black Dove In a message dated 5/7/01 3:03:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org writes: << tori has never uttered courtney's name. and when directly asked if "professional widow" was written about courtney... tori said no. so. yah. while tori and courtney may not be so happy with eachother.. theres no direct proof or reasonsing why. xXx noah >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:02:09 -0700 From: "Robert A Darke" Subject: Re: On the whole, you all suck Woah, hey there, big camper! Yeah, this list takes involves a period of 'adjustment.' But once you're 'adjusted,' it's good great fun. Rob From: "Groundskeeper Willy" @smoe.org on 05/08/2001 07:30 AM Sent by: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org To: angry-psychos@smoe.org cc: Subject: On the whole, you all suck You know what? There are so many people on this list who are pompous assholes, which is a shame because I would like to have funny or intelligent conversations with other Poe fans. I don't want to have anything to do with this list any more. My control remix was not to be taken with any seriousness, but what I get are insults on my intelligence. I'm sorry, Stephen, that my boredom at night led you to be such a dickhead. Won't ever let it happen again. All you people seem to do is criticize others' opinions. Childish... to sit around and squabble over what Poe was meaning by a certain song or verse instead of saying what it means to YOU. This isn't what I expected at all out of Poe fans. Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:07:40 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe a witch? In a message dated 5/8/2001 9:35:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Notajunkie@yahoo.com writes: > I've read a few books and webpages while learning to read the Tarot, and > I've never heard Qbala mentioned anywhere in the texts about origin. > The term did not exist at that time...only the practice:-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:11:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jen Ralston Subject: npr: wiccans and kabbalah and stars, oh my "The eye on top of the pyramid on the dollar bill is a symbol of psychic energy from the enlightment movement." i don't know how we got from pentagrams to this but anyways, if anyone is looking for a really big, engulfing, conspiracy theory book (you know, beach reading), try "Illuminatus!" it was written in the 60's i think and features a host of characters including john dillinger and his twin brothers, a man having sex with a golden apple, and a talking dolphin named howard. they explain ALL about that pyramid/eye thing in there. fun for the whole family. Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:11:24 -0700 From: "Robert A Darke" Subject: Re: Disturbing profile in the ward Whew... I'd have to agree with ya. What a dick. From: "Notajunkie" @smoe.org on 05/08/2001 10:35 AM AST Sent by: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org To: "Angry-Psychos" cc: Subject: Disturbing profile in the ward What is up with the profile for "Seyth MCoy Lafal" in the Ward? Can we get this deleted please? "Overwhelmed with a deep repulsion for sights seen so commonly, now I have come to be a walking enmity, for humanity, the human blasphemy, I'll end the world tonight." --AFI "Smile" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:16:46 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe: "I Can't Say No" Song In a message dated 5/8/2001 10:30:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Robert.A.Darke@aexp.com writes: > Well, actually, I wound up downloading it with Imesh. 8-) > > But I can't make the consarned thing work!! It just sits there... > connected > to nothing! What do I do? Lead me great Krod! > **************************** > iMesh began to suck out loud, so I quit using it altogether. I think the root of the problem is that they keep adding spyware and advertising in an attempt to profit from iMesh, and like Napster they don't allow you to stick with an old version...you have to keep upgrading to newer versions. But the newer ones don't seem to work right. The original was great and always worked...fast downloads too. Alas, they f**ked it up like humans often do to good things. I would suggest downloading and installing both LimeWire and BearShare, which use the Gnutella network...but are both way better than Gnutella in that they do everything automatically, like Napster. You can not only find beaucoup MP3s, but application files, videos, pictures, etc. If you want one just for MP3s, maybe Newtella is your cup of tea...but it doesn't always connect as readily as LimeWire and BearShare. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:38:58 EDT From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: Re: Disturbing profile in the ward "Whyyy doooo you gotta' be......such...a...dick....Go-Go-go!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:56:38 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Re: Disturbing profile in the ward The profile says " What POE Means to Me: an asshole Other Info: tell this bitch ass to stop making music " And is allegedly from lyvn@hotmail.com All U PsYcHoS be sure t o drop lyvn@hotmail.com a h0w D :> or 2 or 3.... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Notajunkie" To: "Angry-Psychos" Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 10:35 AM Subject: Disturbing profile in the ward > > What is up with the profile for "Seyth MCoy Lafal" in the Ward? > > Can we get this deleted please? > > "Overwhelmed with a deep repulsion for sights > seen so commonly, now I have come to be a > walking enmity, for humanity, the human > blasphemy, I'll end the world tonight." > --AFI "Smile" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:17:27 EDT From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe a witch? Wasn't Kabala also a character on speed racer? He raced against speed and racer X one time through a volcano that opens only once every hundred years or something. - -Mike P.S. SO WHAT IF I'M A NERD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:14:21 -0700 From: "Robert A Darke" Subject: Re: Poe: "I Can't Say No" Song Well, I did get gnutella downloaded and installed. The problem is that I can't make it connect to any servers, etc. So, that's driving me nuts. And after seeing all those live Poe songs (I'll be damned, they were at the bottom... heheh), I MUST FIND THEM! It is my mission in life to own everything recorded by Poe!!! So how do I make gnutella work? I'm going to download those other two you mentioned tonight. Imesh I've found is good for only one thing (like Scour Exchange) - PORN. 8-) Rob From: KrodKnid@aol.com on 05/08/2001 11:16 AM EDT To: Robert A Darke/AMER/AEFA/AEXP@AMEX, angry-psychos@smoe.org cc: Subject: Re: Poe: "I Can't Say No" Song In a message dated 5/8/2001 10:30:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Robert.A.Darke@aexp.com writes: Well, actually, I wound up downloading it with Imesh. 8-) But I can't make the consarned thing work!! It just sits there... connected to nothing! What do I do? Lead me great Krod! **************************** iMesh began to suck out loud, so I quit using it altogether. I think the root of the problem is that they keep adding spyware and advertising in an attempt to profit from iMesh, and like Napster they don't allow you to stick with an old version...you have to keep upgrading to newer versions. But the newer ones don't seem to work right. The original was great and always worked...fast downloads too. Alas, they f**ked it up like humans often do to good things. I would suggest downloading and installing both LimeWire and BearShare, which use the Gnutella network...but are both way better than Gnutella in that they do everything automatically, like Napster. You can not only find beaucoup MP3s, but application files, videos, pictures, etc. If you want one just for MP3s, maybe Newtella is your cup of tea...but it doesn't always connect as readily as LimeWire and BearShare. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:30:25 EDT From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com Subject: Re: Disturbing profile in the ward DUDE! THATS AN AFI SONG!!! geeeeeez.IIt's PUNK FUCKIN ROCK!!! It's not like Seyth can ACTUALLY end the world. How many people on this list listen to Marylin Manson? If they through out one of his random song lyrics should we take away that persons right to quote what they want? I don't find it at all disturbing. This reminds me of rev. lovejoy's wife on the simpsons! "Wont someone PLEASE think of the children!!!" Meaning....this is nothing to get upset about. Not to repeat myself but I mean...COME ON! How realistic is this song? How can one person kill 6 billion people. IN ONE NIGHT!!! I think you're being silly. Megan In a message dated 5/8/01 8:01:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Notajunkie@yahoo.com writes: << What is up with the profile for "Seyth MCoy Lafal" in the Ward? Can we get this deleted please? "Overwhelmed with a deep repulsion for sights seen so commonly, now I have come to be a walking enmity, for humanity, the human blasphemy, I'll end the world tonight." --AFI "Smile" >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:37:40 EDT From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com Subject: Re: Reminder for 3 Poe songs.... I cant say those are my FAVORITE songs because I honest to god cant think of a poe song that i DONT like! But I LOVE NOT A VIRGIN! that song rules!!! I love it! Absolutely love it!!!! In a message dated 5/7/01 8:38:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Trueluhv2000@aol.com writes: << 1: Walk the Walk 2: That Day 3: Not A Virgin >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:43:21 EDT From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com Subject: poe songs (sorta) I've read some really funny "remixes" (??) of some poe songs. I think they all need to be sent to the list under the subject "remix *****" the **** is the songtitle of what it is a remix of. these are funny and creative and NEED to be seen by all. Keep em coming. MIKE!!!!!!! PLEASE?!?!?!?!! Megan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:45:50 EDT From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: NPR Control Remix -If you think you may be offended by this, you will- actually with all the discussion of strip joints, I think if weird al was on the list, it would have been "Nice titty" (sing to the tune of hey pretty) Female Voice: "It's 12 am I'm out here stripping again and I'm grinding on a cold metal pole I throw my top off, land it out in the crowd I got some frat boy feeling up and I think I need the bouncer Drunken Male Voice "Nice titties, don't you wanna take a ride with me to my pad Nice titties don't you wanna get it on with me in my pad" Tough sounding male voice (think bronx accent) "Yous better mind or you can't stay inside I'm gonna kick yo' ass and send you to the curb, yea I'll beat you down and stomp you into the floor and when you fall down I'll throw yo ass out the door, hey" repeat nice titties with the drunk guy Disclaimer: I wrote this in about 5 minutes... not even I take it seriously... and I've never been to a strip joint. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:44:05 -0700 From: "Robert A Darke" Subject: Re: Disturbing profile in the ward Ummmm... I think you have the profile confused with a signature... hmmmm. Interesting. Rob From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com@smoe.org on 05/08/2001 12:30 PM EDT Sent by: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org To: angry-psychos@smoe.org cc: Subject: Re: Disturbing profile in the ward DUDE! THATS AN AFI SONG!!! geeeeeez.IIt's PUNK FUCKIN ROCK!!! It's not like Seyth can ACTUALLY end the world. How many people on this list listen to Marylin Manson? If they through out one of his random song lyrics should we take away that persons right to quote what they want? I don't find it at all disturbing. This reminds me of rev. lovejoy's wife on the simpsons! "Wont someone PLEASE think of the children!!!" Meaning....this is nothing to get upset about. Not to repeat myself but I mean...COME ON! How realistic is this song? How can one person kill 6 billion people. IN ONE NIGHT!!! I think you're being silly. Megan In a message dated 5/8/01 8:01:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Notajunkie@yahoo.com writes: << What is up with the profile for "Seyth MCoy Lafal" in the Ward? Can we get this deleted please? "Overwhelmed with a deep repulsion for sights seen so commonly, now I have come to be a walking enmity, for humanity, the human blasphemy, I'll end the world tonight." --AFI "Smile" >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:58:21 -0500 From: lance.kinney@amd.com Subject: RE: NPR Control Remix -If you think you may be offended by this, you will- Fantabulotastic! Absolutely wonderful work! Bravo! And, of course, you've never been to a strip bar. Err, a Gentleman's Club. Uh, not that I would know, of course :-D LanceKitty > -----Original Message----- > From: LivTheMdns@aol.com [mailto:LivTheMdns@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:46 AM > To: angry-psychos@smoe.org > Subject: NPR Control Remix -If you think you may be offended by this, > you will- > > > > actually with all the discussion of strip joints, I think if > weird al was on > the list, it would have been "Nice titty" (sing to the tune > of hey pretty) > > Female Voice: > > "It's 12 am I'm out here stripping again > and I'm grinding on a cold metal pole > I throw my top off, land it > out in the crowd > I got some frat boy feeling up > and I think I need the bouncer > > > Drunken Male Voice > > "Nice titties, > don't you wanna take a ride with me > to my pad > Nice titties > don't you wanna get it on with me > in my pad" > > > Tough sounding male voice (think bronx accent) > > "Yous better mind > or you can't stay inside > I'm gonna kick yo' ass > and send you to the curb, yea > I'll beat you down and stomp you into the floor > and when you fall down I'll throw yo ass out the door, hey" > > > repeat nice titties with the drunk guy > > > Disclaimer: I wrote this in about 5 minutes... not even I take it > seriously... and I've never been to a strip joint. ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #184 ***********************************