From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #180 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Monday, May 7 2001 Volume 06 : Number 180 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: hey pretty video and the y.o.a..../"dolphin" [KrodKnid@aol.com] RE: FLAP's report in!! ["Marshall Pierce" ] Re: hey pretty video and the y.o.a..../"dolphin" [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: hey pretty video and the y.o.a..../"dolphin" [KrodKnid@aol.com] Poe on TechTV this week! ["Chris Beckwith" ] Gathering in Toronto [Mark Loit ] 5 1/2 minute hallway...??? [Prozackitty16@aol.com] Re: Poe Yearbook photos..... [Prozackitty16@aol.com] Poe a WITCH?? [Prozackitty16@aol.com] Re: Poe a WITCH?? ["Dean Morrison (PolishChick.com)" ] Re: Get an @poe.org address! ["Faerie Girl" ] Re: Poe a WITCH?? [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: "Hey Courtney" and mud wrestling the youth of today [MUDD47@aol.com] PR:record store tales, (sorta) [BluesyBear@aol.com] sleep deprivation [Goddess21401 ] Re: HOL/ The Shining Re: Bad Songs...and an introduction ["Joshua Panther] Re: 5 1/2 minute hallway...??? [Trueluhv2000@aol.com] My real intorduction ["Joshua Panther" ] Free POE demo CD's... [Prozackitty16@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:05:52 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the y.o.a..../"dolphin" In a message dated 5/6/2001 9:06:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kittiecreed@hotmail.com writes: > I don't like the video concept because it has > not a THING -in my opinion- to do with the song, but if some of you find a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't even a "hidden" connection. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:09:40 -0400 From: "Marshall Pierce" Subject: RE: FLAP's report in!! Gainesville here..Planning on the Tampa Show...=) Marshall - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Marnell, Christina Marie Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 9:37 PM To: 'Marshall Pierce '; 'jensound@home.com '; 'Dan98908@aol.com '; 'angry-psychos@smoe.org ' Subject: RE: FLAP's report in!! no plans..but now that you mention it. Where is everybody at? Marnell =) - -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Pierce To: jensound@home.com; Dan98908@aol.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org Sent: 5/6/01 8:58 PM Subject: FLAP's report in!! Hey all my fellow FLAP's do we have any plans for a get together while the Poe is in our state? E-mail me here or at Marshall@poe.org!! Marshall - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Jen Ralston Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 2:08 PM To: Dan98908@aol.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america ...but videos are commercials for > songs. > > > that's what their purpose is, right? > advertising a > > > song and the personality performing it? > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > Maybe that is the role they are most often reduced > to, but it doesn't > > preclude their being used for artistic purposes:-) > > ******************************************************* > While I agree with you wholeheartedly on this one > there is a problem. These > things cost a LOT of money to make and it is hoped > they would receive SOME > air time. yep. just like commercials. :) > Kate Bush does lavishly beautiful and VERY artsy > videos. And they NEVER got > air time! and i can't tell you how much i respect her for that. > TV wants sex and while we might hope that > OUR artist can rise > above it the fact is that she HAS!!! She has made a > VERY sexy video that has > ALL of us talking about it ad nauseaum and > critiquing every frame! nah, sorry. the fact that some of us like/don't mind/find the mud wrestling appropriate and others don't doesn't mean that the video is successful. of course, the video can only be defined in terms of success for poe BY poe--by what she hoped to accomplish with it. since we don't know what that is and she doesn't seem forthcoming with her take on it, it's all just speculation. but fun for the whole family nonetheless. > I suggest that, like everything else Poe does, this > was WELL thought out and > there IS a reason for EVERYTHING --- even the mud > wrestling! well, if she had locked herself up in her apartment for 5 years to make the video with no other crew and the ability to do whatever she wanted, whether atlantic wanted it to get screen time or not, then i'd say she made the video and she meant everything in it. i think that perhaps if that was the case, however, this isn't what the video would look like. the video and it's content i feel reflects more of the business side of getting this record noticed by masses of record-buyers-to-be and due to it's commercialized goals, limited budget, and time constraints, i believe that certain compromises may have been made in the concept department. Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:10:00 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the y.o.a..../"dolphin" In a message dated 5/6/2001 9:06:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kittiecreed@hotmail.com writes: > <<<"Well, in this same vein; what the hell do broken bridges and being a > dolphin have to do with relationships? The mud-wrestling is a metaphor for > the sleazy sex.">>> > > ... you mean to honestly tell me that you can't see what the metaphor of a > broken bridge has to do with a relationship.. or the end thereof? The > dolphin... I see that metaphor, but I can also see how someone would miss > it. But the bridge thing, it's a little obvious if you think about it. > Maybe > it's because I read a lot more into things than the average person does, > but > I always thought it was obvious. The mud-wrestling having to do with > "sleazy > sex" is quite a stretch of the imagination... and since the MTV generation > these days have ZERO imagination -(and the imagination they DO have is > pre-programmed by the media and Abercrombie, ect)- I don't think they'd get > it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Well, duh...that was my point. The broken bridge/dolphin/personal > relationship analogy is obvious. And so is the sliming around in the ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:14:22 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the y.o.a..../"dolphin" In a message dated 5/6/2001 9:06:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CMarnell@flsouthern.edu writes: > Heres a little piece of information to possibly add to interpretation of the > whole dolphin thing: Besides humans, dolphins are the only other creature > who have sex for pleasure. maybe that has relevance for interpreting the > gotta be a dolphin thing. Maybe dolphins are just so cute and fishy > Marnell =) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... how about the image of Poe moving "like a dolphin" and making those groaning/sighing noises:-) One of my favorite things about this song is the way the accompanying music is so "dolphiny". ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:29:38 -0400 From: "Chris Beckwith" Subject: Poe on TechTV this week! Poe will be on TechTV's "AudioFile" *tomorrow night* at 9:30PM. It'll be repeated on the following schedule: Tuesday 12:30AM Tuesday 3:30AM Saturday 10:30AM Saturday 2:00PM Saturday 6:00PM Saturday 11:00PM Sunday 8:30PM *Monday 2:30AM *Monday 6:00PM *These might be teaser plays of the following week's show; beware. All times Eastern. My heart skipped a beat when I saw the teaser for Poe's appearance. Needless to say, her segment will be very music-and-audio-tech-oriented and give Poe the props she rightly deserves as a visionary in the field. Poe rules! Take care, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 22:30:57 -0400 From: Mark Loit Subject: Gathering in Toronto Hi All I am trying to organize a get together here in Toronto the day of the concert. The event will be either just before or just after the concert. Any and all interested please let me know, even if you are not going to the concert you are welcome to the party. This is a good chance to meet some of your fellow AP's in the area. Out-of-towners are welcome as well, the more the merrier. This is just a role call to get an idea of the numbers interested, I will forward details if when & where once I have a better idea of who wants to come. Please email me with the details of how many people will be coming with you & if you are under-age or not... This will affect the venue. I look forward to hearing from all of you. Mark [emeraldbay] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 23:19:21 EDT From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: 5 1/2 minute hallway...??? I love the song not a virgin...5 1/2 minute hallway is NOT one of my favorites. Its just so slow and mellow. Not very dynamic at all. I LOVE the song Spanish Doll!! I ADORE that song!!! Its so sweet an sensual!! It VERY beautiful the way it flows!!! I love the little accents of Spanish words!! ;^) ANYONE ELSE AGREE??? ~Gypsy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 23:42:43 EDT From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe Yearbook photos..... OMG!!! THIS IS SO RAD!!! To be perfectly honest she kinda' funny looking!! ;^) I think now's After photos look alot better. I LOVE YOU POE! DUDE! WHERE did you GET this??? ~Gypsy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 23:55:33 EDT From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: Poe a WITCH?? Ok...I have to get this off my chest. Her insignia w/ the POE Ball and all...does anyone else notice the fact that the start thingy in the center looks ALOT like a pentacle/pentagram? I dont know who else know anything about this topic but I do and it a pentacle w/ out the inside strokes... undenyably!! Anyone like to give me there fair share of input on this??? ~Gypsy P.S. Foe all those out there who DONT kow what a pentagram/pentacle is, its a circl star inside ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 00:07:32 -0400 From: "Dean Morrison (PolishChick.com)" Subject: Re: Poe a WITCH?? While I haven't posted Poe's side of the story check out my interview with someone who was with Poe during the time the enduring symbol was created... Hello - The making of a star ...the making of the POE logo http://www.polishchick.com/hello/ Dean www.polishchick.com - ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Poe a WITCH?? > I dont know who else know anything > about this topic but I do and it a pentacle w/ out the inside strokes... > undenyably!! Anyone like to give me there fair share of input on this??? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 21:11:08 -0700 From: "Timberwolf Moonlight" Subject: Re: Poe a WITCH?? >Anyone like to give me there fair share of input on this??? Well, I have heard different rumors about Poe such as she's wiccan (a witch), or that she's a lesbian, etc, etc, etc. But I think this is just coincidence. And even if she is, who cares? I'm wiccan and it doesn't change anything. Anywayz, either way I'll still love her. je t'aime,LB "You haven't truly made it until your head is on a pez dispenser." "I once stayed up all night playing poker with tarot cards. I dealt a full house and 4 people died." ~ Steven Wright Visit me online: www.geocities.com/timberwolf0601 Talk to me online: aim: beltain25 icq: 15606443 msn: sugarbaby_25@hotmail.com yahoo: incredible_temptations - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 23:16:19 -0500 From: "Faerie Girl" Subject: Re: Get an @poe.org address! Thanks Michelle! I just went and got one. Woohoo! Tiffany ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 00:20:58 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Poe a WITCH?? In a message dated 5/7/2001 12:02:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Prozackitty16@aol.com writes: > Ok...I have to get this off my chest. Her insignia w/ the POE Ball and > all...does anyone else notice the fact that the start thingy in the center > looks ALOT like a pentacle/pentagram? I dont know who else know anything > about this topic but I do and it a pentacle w/ out the inside strokes... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about the insignia on many United States WWII era fighter and bomber warplanes? Heh, heh... I am speaking about the pentagram star without the little striped wing things on each side. Maybe we used it in WWI also. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 00:28:18 EDT From: MUDD47@aol.com Subject: Re: "Hey Courtney" and mud wrestling the youth of today In a message dated 05/04/2001 1:24:08 AM Mountain Daylight Time, commissioner_jobe@yahoo.com writes: > P.S. In case any of you are wondering... yes, I REALLY > dislike Courtney Love. But I love you psychos! And > correct I haven't slept in about two days, finals week > you know. Goodnight folks! And I wasn't kidding, I > DO like the "Hey Pretty" video. Alright, this raises a question that I have perpetually asked....how long can a human body stay awake without it being fatal? I've stayed up over night into the next day before, but I think that's as far as I've gone but I'm worried since I've been battling insomnia on and off for the last couple weeks.... sorry, this is a totally RANDOM question. you may now return to your email already in progress..... Cazart Courtney ____________________________________________________________ "... Southern California as a whole, constitutes a social world of its own that is peculiarly disordered, speeded up, and artificial. The popular idea (substantiated to a degree by historians) is that because California was for so long the special end point of the westering dream, the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow of hopes of countless pioneers, it has received more than its share of restless visionaries and misfits and is therefore a more intensly neurotic version of the neurotic life of modern America." ~Janis P Stout ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 00:55:19 EDT From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: PR:record store tales, (sorta) MMM..so on my way back to NYC I stopped at the strawberries in Danbury....unconsciously going right to the POE section and guess what? There were no copies in the browser! I looked on the hits of tomorrow wall where she was supposed to be but there were also no copies.. I had to ask the employee how the poe sales were doing! SO...I nonchallantly, (EEK did I spell that right?) asked him.."so are you guys all out of Poe?" And he said "no we have her but we sold FOUR COPIES today." I got really excited.....what beautiful progress:) giggling like a child Will ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:11:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Goddess21401 Subject: sleep deprivation i dunno... but i know i've gone 9 days without sleep before, due to a severe case of insomnia... and im still alive (obviously).. though i wont say i was sane by the time the 7th day came around... teehee... - -LiNdSaY :) _____________________________________________________ "sometimes i just want to sit in a dark corner and cry for hours, hoping no one will notice..." *M.O.T.M. _____________________________________________________ On Mon, 7 May 2001 00:28:18 EDT, MUDD47@aol.com wrote: > > Alright, this raises a question that I have perpetually asked....how long can > a human body stay awake without it being fatal? I've stayed up over night > into the next day before, but I think that's as far as I've gone _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 01:24:10 -0400 From: "Joshua Panther" Subject: Re: HOL/ The Shining Re: Bad Songs...and an introduction >Also, a big, "Thank You", > for the large number of non-flaming, different opinion >responses I got on > the "Lemon Merengue" issue. In a way I got what I was >looking for,.. reasons > to like the song. Although I still feel it disrupts the flow >of the album, > but hey, it's not MY album is it? I still think Haunted is a >masterpiece... I find it very interesting that "Lemon Merengue" is considered an issue. I've only talked to one person about the album (I only have one friend who's into it) and we both agree that, while it's a good song, it doesn't quite fit with the rest of the album And now that I've done the obligatory "me too" post allow me to introduce myself. I'm new here and I don't know anyone yet so I'll go by Joshua Panther for the time being. I'd heard about Poe back when "Angry Johnny" was a hit but I never really got into her stuff. Then a few months ago a friend handed me "House of Leaves." After reading it I had to go out and buy "Haunted" and it just blew me away. It's become a very important part of my life, helping me through some of the toughest times I've ever been through. And I guess that's about it for now from the newcomer. Joshua Panther "It's beyond my control." -Valmont "Who I am, yeah? Joe Panther. Joshua Panther. Joshua Ben Panther. Anglicised to buggery. For the present. From the Aramaic. Yeshu ben Pantera. Yoshu. Take your pick. Jesus, son of Pantera. It was all true. And all wrong. But later. You won't thank me." -Andrew Masterson The Last Days: The Secret Apocryphon of Joe Panther ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 01:24:42 EDT From: Trueluhv2000@aol.com Subject: Re: 5 1/2 minute hallway...??? In a message dated 5/6/01 11:26:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Prozackitty16@aol.com writes: > 5 1/2 minute hallway is NOT one of my > favorites. Its just so slow and mellow. Not very dynamic at all. I LOVE the > song Spanish Doll!! I ADORE that song!!! Its so sweet an sensual!! It VERY > beautiful the way it flows!!! I love the little accents of Spanish words!! > > ;^) > spanish doll is very mellow....I think they are the same..not trying to start an argument because we all have our opinions..but I LUHV 5 1/2 I didn't like spanish doll at the beginning but it is sooo sweet, I really like it now. so I can't actaully say I agree..sorry luhv~n~stuff Carri ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 01:32:05 -0400 From: "Joshua Panther" Subject: My real intorduction Hmm. I guess I'm supposed to do something a bit more formal than just posting and tossing in a vague introduction. WHO: Joshua Panther (for the moment) WHERE: Toledo, Ohio. A recent transplant from Ohio University via Cleveland. AGE: 24 in three days 1st POE: I first heard Angry Johnny when it was a radio hit but then avoided her work for a very poor reason. Then after reading House of Leaves I decided I had to check it out and fell in love. FAVE BANDS: The Slackers (ska band out of NYC), The Beautiful South, old Metallica, Queen, PIctures at an Exhibition (not a band, but I don't know any of Mussorgsky's other work to say whether I like it or not). TIDBIT: Most lives are full of irony. My life IS irony. Joshua Panther "It's beyond my control." -Valmont "Who I am, yeah? Joe Panther. Joshua Panther. Joshua Ben Panther. Anglicised to buggery. For the present. From the Aramaic. Yeshu ben Pantera. Yoshu. Take your pick. Jesus, son of Pantera. It was all true. And all wrong. But later. You won't thank me." -Andrew Masterson The Last Days: The Secret Apocryphon of Joe Panther ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 01:28:43 EDT From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: Free POE demo CD's... OK...HERES THE DEAL>>> I'm going to be making burnt CD's containing just a few songs by POE and give them out to people free if charge just to spread the word of POE!!! DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT SONGS YOU THINK SHOULD BE ON IT??? PLEASE EMAIL ME W/ A LIST OF YOUR 3 TO POE SONGS THAT YOU FEEL PEOPLE SHOULD HERE!!! THANKS!!!! ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #180 ***********************************