From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #176 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Saturday, May 5 2001 Volume 06 : Number 176 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPR: Hooters [JezebeIlnHeII@aol.com] RE: NPR:ANTI-TORI [Katie ] RE: Sorta NPR: Tori [Katie ] Re: NPR: RE: flaunting the goods [JezebeIlnHeII@aol.com] Re: NPR: Hooters [Mike Vaughn ] Re: NPR: flaunting the goods [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR: Hooters ["Mike Brame" ] Re: NPR: flaunting the goods [~~Amanda~~ ] Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america [KrodKnid@aol.com] PR: why? cuz we rock ["monkeygrrl _" ] Re: NPR: flaunting the goods ["Roger Harvey" ] Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR: RE: flaunting the goods [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: NPR: RE: flaunting the goods [KrodKnid@aol.com] Women at Hooters and Strip clubs etc. [Fishymessiah ] NPR: just me drooling ["monkeygrrl _" ] SPR: ANGRY PSYCHO T-SHIRTS ARE AVAILABLE! (online ordering is up) [Peaceo] Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #175 [ChrisyGina@aol.com] Re: NPR: flaunting the goods [LiveThruThisVow@aol.com] Dallas Meet and greet MAY 11th, LA private AP concert 6/5 (tenative date) [Dan98908@aol.] Re: just me drooling ["Tori Amos" ] Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america [NPR, but list related] [Ed] Poe's band lineup [Dan98908@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:32:20 EDT From: JezebeIlnHeII@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: Hooters In a message dated 5/4/01 7:36:18 AM Alaskan Daylight Time, Robert.A.Darke@aexp.com writes: << I went to hooters once. Just for kicks. >> I took my husband last year for Father's day .. after we did the celebrating with the kids. We sat and talked and ate wings and drank beer. he didn't even look at the chicks there ( who were way hotter than me ! ) . We had an awesome time and he thought it was really cool that I took him there.. ~jez ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:34:42 -0500 From: Katie Subject: RE: NPR:ANTI-TORI >and I do agree that "venus" was a waste... I liked some songs on Venus, but only one or two on the new material side. Th elive stuff was... okay, I really liked cooling, but I can't remember which song it is that i always hear a live version that's on venus. i was really annoyed that that particular song was on there even though I can't remember what it is. >(though Pandora's >Aquarium is a downright ugly song) I really like pandora's aquarium, but I don't like the part where she sings "pandora's a-a-a-a(when she goes up high here) quariumm. I love playing the piano part to that song though. >and I saw her in concert, and really wasn't that impressed (tho "Me and >a Gun" was chilling...) I would looooove to see her in concert, but in the setting like in the Earthquakes, Pink, Pele days. I wasn't too excited about the whole 'band' thing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:38:46 -0500 From: Katie Subject: RE: Sorta NPR: Tori >I went to high school with Ellen (Tori) Amos... you may touch my hand. wow, that's really cool. i always wondered what tori (ellen) was like in high school. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:37:08 EDT From: JezebeIlnHeII@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: RE: flaunting the goods In a message dated 5/4/01 9:47:43 AM Alaskan Daylight Time, hunsin_e@denison.edu writes: << Hell, I even know a 30something year old female that'll go to strip clubs. >> Ahem ! Krod .. pass me that cane again .. i think i'm gonna need it !!!! Ed, start running ! ~thirtysomething jez ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 12:31:24 -0700 From: Mike Vaughn Subject: Re: NPR: Hooters True story: I first went to Hooters for the eye candy (in my single days). Then I quickly got addicted to the wings! Seriously. I would go about once a week, have 10 - 20 hot wings, totally ignore the waitresses... and I was even known to GET THE WINGS TO GO! How lame am I? Now my wife is a Hooters wings addict and she was a vegetarian for 7 years before that. We have to drive 3 miles (to Seattle) for the nearest Hooters now. > > In a message dated 5/4/01 7:36:18 AM Alaskan Daylight Time, > Robert.A.Darke@aexp.com writes: > > << I went to hooters once. Just for kicks. >> > > I took my husband last year for Father's day .. after we did the celebrating > with the kids. We sat and talked and ate wings and drank beer. he didn't even > look at the chicks there ( who were way hotter than me ! ) . We had an > awesome time and he thought it was really cool that I took him there.. > > ~jez ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:50:28 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: flaunting the goods In a message dated 5/4/2001 7:05:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jandymo@hotmail.com writes: > what?! you mean you don't go to hooters just for the buffalo wings?! you > what? you mainly go to stare at the waitresses? well, i never... > > nah, i see nothing wrong with any such job (hooters crew, strippers, etc.) > and don't find it degrading. these grrls chose this job, and are actually > very much in control. boys tend to not be able to hold the tough guy act > when there's some half naked grrl in front of him. so go ahead grrls, ask > for the world while he's not thinking with the head on his shoulders and > don't even feel bad about it...he'll probably gladly give it to you. > > k, i'm ready to hear the arguements on this. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no overwhelming disrespect for the actual girls who indulge in this sort of thing (mud wrestling either for that matter), but it seems that a lot of the female populace in general resents the hell out of any female being put on display like a piece of meat...and it does reinforce Chauvinist attitudes in males. I do not include stripping and/or fetish shows, etc. in this assessment, since that is a whole different ball game. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 13:08:19 -0700 From: "Mike Brame" Subject: Re: NPR: Hooters You know, I'm not a "wing man", but I'm in love with their chicken sammiches. Plus, I admit, I go to look at the waitresses. I don't talk dirty to them, I don't proposition them, and I tip heavily. A win win situation in my book. Really, these women could just as easily waitress at a TGI Fridays or something. They choose to work at Hooters and make big tips for it. If any exploitation is going on, they are exploiting themselves. I'm thinking it's lunch time! :) Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 16:02:46 -0400 From: ~~Amanda~~ Subject: Re: NPR: flaunting the goods I wasn't sure I wanted to get involved in this, but I'll give it a shot. I know a couple girls who work at Hooters, and another girl who is a stripper and it is true that they have the control. They're the ones who choose to put on tight tanks and jiggle for guys. I don't resent these girls, and I don't think they're doing anything wrong. They're joining a good market. The only thing I know is that it feels like it makes it harder for me in the world. I'm a little pudgy, but working out. I'm relatively flat. I'll never be girls like them. In effect, its just like things like Cosmo or Playboy, its elevating peoples expectations of what women "should" be. I can't see myself going to a strip club, and its not because I find it degrading to women in general. I would find it detremental to my own self-esteem, especially if it were with a boyfriend. I know my ex looked. All guys do. I look around. But to be sitting with a guy while he's oggling some half naked girl that I could never look like.....I'd go home and cry, and thats the truth. ~~Amanda~~ Xander: Whoa! Whoa-ho-ho, rewind. Since when do they have orgies, and why aren't I on the mailing list? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:13:06 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america In a message dated 5/4/2001 7:14:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, skirsch@bellatlantic.net writes: > There is a terrific tradition of lyrics as poetry within Folk, and by > extension Folk Rock. I'll just throw out Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Paul > Simon and Bruce Springsteen as examples of songwriters whose lyrics stand up > as serious works of poetry. In High School we actually did study several of > the above artist work as poetry. > > Does that mean all song lyrics are serious poetry? No, in fact song lyrics, > like everything else are subject to Sturgeon's law (90% of everything is > crap). > > As to your last point, I don't think the argument is over whether visual > metaphor is a valid approach to a music video. I think the issue is whether > the mud wrestling in particular is a good metaphor. > > Stuart > -- > I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused - Elvis Costello > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Even a lot of the songs by the notable artists you mention are crap poetry without the music. Of course there are exceptions, like Dylan's "Visions of Johanna" et al, but they are the exceptions which prove the rule. There are many more than you mention even, some of Pete Brown's lyrics for Cream songs, for example...but I still believe E. A. Poe's assertion that we must set aside the criteria for literature where songs are involved is valid. As for mud wrestling being an apt metaphor for sleaze, I think it works...the term "mud-slinging" is already a cliche for sleazy criticism in politics and culture, so it is already in the public conciousness as such. ******* "___seen at times through dark sunglasses and other forms of psychic explosion, a song is anything that can walk by itself/i am called a songwriter, a poem is a naked person...some people say that i am a poet " Bob Dylan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:46:15 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america In a message dated 5/4/2001 8:55:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jensound@yahoo.com writes: > krodknid (hey, can i just call you "krod" for short?) > wrote: > Nice wordplay:-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:48:20 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america In a message dated 5/4/2001 8:55:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jensound@yahoo.com writes: > oh, i wasn't debating the use of visual metaphor in > video. i was debating whether or not the mud > wrestling was one in this case. i'm sorry i let you > continue to mention instances of visual metaphor and > not elaborate that i wasn't saying "no metaphors" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you shouldn't have started your argument by asserting that songs are poetry and that as such metaphor, etc. are fair game...but that videos are different:-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 20:53:23 -0000 From: "monkeygrrl _" Subject: PR: why? cuz we rock woo hoo! the edge (102.1) just announced that poe & mark will be flying into dallas on thurs night in order to attend edgefest on saturday. then on sunday, they will be doing an in-store at borders. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:56:48 -0400 From: "Roger Harvey" Subject: Re: NPR: flaunting the goods Talking about This Subject... I had to Reply. I am a Young man, and Unlike all these other male's who find it pleasureable to goto strip joints... I, on the other hand, do not. I think Places like Hooters and Strip Joints are a Discrase to Women. As I could never understand why a woman, publicly showing herself to everyone, could turn a man on. In the Privicy of your own home, with someone you truly and deeply love, is such a more of a turn on then someone who show's the world. This Is My personal Option. Roger T. Harvey Co CEO & Co Administrator Simple Hosting Solutions, Inc. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "~~Amanda~~" To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 4:02 PM Subject: Re: NPR: flaunting the goods > > I wasn't sure I wanted to get involved in this, but I'll give it a shot. I > know a couple girls who work at Hooters, and another girl who is a > stripper and it is true that they have the control. They're the ones > who choose to put on tight tanks and jiggle for guys. I don't resent > these girls, and I don't think they're doing anything wrong. They're > joining a good market. > > The only thing I know is that it feels like it makes it harder for me in > the world. I'm a little pudgy, but working out. I'm relatively flat. I'll > never be girls like them. In effect, its just like things like Cosmo or > Playboy, its elevating peoples expectations of what women > "should" be. > > I can't see myself going to a strip club, and its not because I find it > degrading to women in general. I would find it detremental to my > own self-esteem, especially if it were with a boyfriend. I know my > ex looked. All guys do. I look around. But to be sitting with a guy > while he's oggling some half naked girl that I could never look > like.....I'd go home and cry, and thats the truth. > > ~~Amanda~~ > > Xander: Whoa! Whoa-ho-ho, rewind. Since when do they have orgies, and why aren't I on the mailing list? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:03:16 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america Hah...that film class on visual metaphor sounds extreme:-) As for subverting the intent of the industry weasels by subterfuge in the production, one of the funniest variations on this I have seen/heard is what a filmscore composer did to a kung-fu "B movie" I caught part of one night on cable (when I still subscribed to it). It was a typical overblown macho borefest with lots of grunting and fake kung-fu gesticulations...the music was supposed to be full of dramatic portent...and it was, sorta'. Whoever wrote the music composed an entire (very dramatic sounding at first listen) set of variations on the theme "dum dada dum dum, DUM DUM!". You know, the common doofus door knock riff. If you caught on to what he was doing it became a wry commentary of the "heavy" macho action going on within the film. I was on the floor...hehehe. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:05:01 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america In a message dated 5/4/2001 10:00:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cthulhu9@ucla.edu writes: > you write too much :) > I know. We are "too much", as in 50s jazz vernacular. We are also "groovy":-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:11:46 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: RE: flaunting the goods Say, Ed...when is yer full Poe stuff site going back up? You only have a fraction of the goods at that new one:-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:14:09 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: RE: flaunting the goods In a message dated 5/4/2001 3:01:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JezebeIlnHeII@aol.com writes: > << Hell, I even know a 30something year old female that'll go to > strip clubs. >> > > Ahem ! Krod .. pass me that cane again .. i think i'm gonna need it !!!! > Ed, > start running ! > > ~thirtysomething jez > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one that looks like a necromancer's staff? Sure....use with caution. If you miss Ed you might wipe out eastern Ohio:-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:16:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Fishymessiah Subject: Women at Hooters and Strip clubs etc. Take it from one who knows.(When I say that I don't mean to imply that I have the absolute last word on women in sex trade - maybe only the second last). The new wave of "stripper and hooter girls are all empowered" is just another part of the turn of century "grrl power" that exists for legal lobbying purposes or to tell women they like being sex objects. Yes, they choose these jobs. Yes they (sometimes) make good money (at least more than they likely would in another job with similarly low skills). Yes they sometimes enjoy these jobs. But none of this changes the fact that they are being paid so men (and in all my years of working in strip joints I have seen about 6 women and half of them were there in a company party or with their boyfriends) can objectify them. Okay. It isn't really that simple. There is a fairly complicated interplay between feeling empowered and disempowered whenever women are making profit out of their bodies. Control is a SUPER touchy word here. And so, for that matter, is "degrading". To go back to the "Hey Pretty" video debate: one side says that sexy is fine, women should be able to flaunt/express/exploit their sexuality in any way they choose. This is true. It is terribly convincing. But on the other hand, as has been noted ad nauseum, the "flaunting/expressing/exploiting is not necessarily on her terms - there is audience appeal, finance, expectation that all come into play. The fact is money does not equal empowerment (unless you get it in exceptionally large sums). The profit turned does not equal self esteem. Now look. I've written a dissertation. I'm reluctant to delete, but accept my apologies. Passionate subject and all. You know. nah, i see nothing wrong with any such job (hooters crew, strippers, etc.) and don't find it degrading. these grrls chose this job, and are actually very much in control. boys tend to not be able to hold the tough guy act when there's some half naked grrl in front of him Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:41:07 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america In a message dated 5/3/01 10:15:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, KrodKnid@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 5/3/2001 11:33:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jensound@yahoo.com writes: > > > > like, duh. but videos are commercials for songs. > > that's what their purpose is, right? advertising a > > song and the personality performing it? > > > ****************************************************** > Maybe that is the role they are most often reduced to, but it doesn't > preclude their being used for artistic purposes:-) > > > While I agree with you wholeheartedly on this one there is a problem. These things cost a LOT of money to make and it is hoped they would receive SOME air time. Kate Bush does lavishly beautiful and VERY artsy videos. And they NEVER got air time! TV wants sex and while we might hope that OUR artist can rise above it the fact is that she HAS!!! She has made a VERY sexy video that has ALL of us talking about it ad nauseaum and critiquing every frame! I suggest that, like everything else Poe does, this was WELL thought out and there IS a reason for EVERYTHING --- even the mud wrestling! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 18:23:43 EDT From: AMCFLND1@aol.com Subject: Re: POE OPENING FOR DEPECHE MODE ON ENTIRE TOUR Wow, what exciting news......although, I already have my tickets, but it's great for everyone else can't wait to hear more about the meet and greets...poe is so sweet Sara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:06:38 EDT From: Prozackitty16@aol.com Subject: Re: Hey Pretty FULL VERSION!!!! Sheesh! Lucky! I wish they played ANY version of WILD here!! ~Gypsy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:17:45 EDT From: EXej@aol.com Subject: Poe/DM Tour Page updated yet again! I've updated http://houseofleaves.4t.com/house.html and http://houseofleaves.4t.com/house2.html For those of you going to the newly added POE opening shows, email me and I'll add you to the list of those attending.... For those who don't know, here are the "newly added Poe dates": 7/19 - Las Cruces, NM - Pan American Center - 7/20 - Albuquerque, NM - Journal Pavilion - 7/21 - Denver, CO - Fiddlers Green Amphitheatre - 7/23 - Salt Lake City, UT - E Center - 7/27 - Portland, OR - Rose Garden Arena - 7/28 - Vancouver, BC - Pacific Coliseum - 7/29 - Seattle, WA - Gorge Amphitheatre - 8/1 - Sacramento, CA - Sacramento Valley Amphitheatre - 8/3 - Concord, CA - Chronicle Pavilion at Concord - 8/4 - San Francisco, CA - Shoreline Amphitheatre - 8/5 - Santa Barbara, CA - Santa Barbara Bowl - 8/8 - Las Vegas, NV The Joint - 8/10 - Phoenix, AZ - America West Arena - 8/11 - San Diego, CA - Coors Amphitheatre - 8/14 - Los Angeles, CA - Staples Center Arena - As usual, you can buy the tickets directly at Houseofleaves.4t.com Drive safely.... Erik - ---- This public service announcement brought to you by ShellE Productions www.shelle.org Check there for official Poe discography info, The Idiot's Guide to House of Leaves and much more! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 18:37:15 -0400 From: "Stephen van Vuuren" Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america >Kate Bush does lavishly beautiful and VERY artsy videos. And they NEVER got >air time! TV wants sex and while we might hope that OUR artist can rise >above it the fact is that she HAS!!! She has made a VERY sexy video that has >ALL of us talking about it ad nauseaum and critiquing every frame! > >I suggest that, like everything else Poe does, this was WELL thought out and >there IS a reason for EVERYTHING --- even the mud wrestling! Kate Bush is a great example of the opposite of what you're trying to point out. She has a career almost 25 years long with extremely loyal and dedicated fans despite only get some airplay in England. And another album is due out soon. Though she is incredibly gorgeous with a dancer's body to boot - she nipped the sexy sell thing at EMI and has never needed it to make records and find an audience. And certainly not to pay the rent. For me it's not about sex or not sex - it's about does the video match the song and the artist? If Carmen Electra or Lara Croft makes a music video, we don't expect nor want Tarkovsky. We want see babes, T&A, and not much else. Butt (intentional) this is all pretty academic until we hear from Poe, Mark and the director on exactly why. Plus, it's just one video, in the grand scheme of things, not a big deal. But sure is fun to debate... - -- stephen www.xiveren.com "It can only be attributable to human error" - -HAL - -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:53:51 EDT From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: flaunting the goods Well several friends and I are going to open up a place called Nuts and have a cute lil squirrel holding two nuts :) ~*~ Love, love, is a verb, love is a doing word~ Massive Attack ~*~ Adventure, excitement, the Jedi craves not these things~ Silent Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:24:00 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: flaunting the goods In a message dated 5/4/2001 8:08:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LiveThruThisVow@aol.com writes: > Well several friends and I are going to open up a place called Nuts and > have a cute lil squirrel holding two nuts :) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heh, heh...do pussywillows figure into this equation too?;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 17:31:09 -0700 From: "Mike Brame" Subject: Re: NPR: flaunting the goods But, uh, do women find nuts appetizing? Mmmmm, caesar salads and a well formed scrotum, oh baby! ;) >From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: NPR: flaunting the goods >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:53:51 EDT > > > Well several friends and I are going to open up a place called Nuts >and >have a cute lil squirrel holding two nuts :) > >~*~ Love, love, is a verb, love is a doing word~ Massive Attack > >~*~ Adventure, excitement, the Jedi craves not these things~ Silent Bob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 00:42:38 -0000 From: "monkeygrrl _" Subject: NPR: just me drooling >...or Lara Croft makes a music video, we don't expect nor want >Tarkovsky. >We want see babes, T&A, and not much else. man, oh man...(sorry to jump subject, you all can get back to the hey pretty stuff in a sec)U2's 'elevation' video will be out before too long and none other than angelina jolie (as lara croft, of course) is in it. this might be common knowledge by now tho. i felt the need to throw that in, to add to the t&a talk. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 21:06:15 EDT From: Peaceofpiedesign@aol.com Subject: SPR: ANGRY PSYCHO T-SHIRTS ARE AVAILABLE! (online ordering is up) YES IT'S TRUE! Whew! I know this has been a while in the works, and I appreciate your patience while awaiting final word on production of the screen printed T-shirts. FINAL WORD IS IN! We will be printing the design "Psychos Know" and Mike's design "Taking Over" as early as next week. You will have them well before the tour!! Both designs are available on black T's and tanks. The design will be printed full-size on the front of the shirt. T-shirt price is 10.00 Tanks are 9.00 I have revised the design to prep for printing and have provided an online order form to keep things easy ... we even have a few surprises! I would appreciate any input =) I'll warn you, my design is pure chaos, just like me. Take a look at and/or order your shirts here: http://www.flywear.net/apthread.htm Thanks again for your patience! Julie P ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 22:16:14 EDT From: ChrisyGina@aol.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #175 OK. I think I've had enough....I like POE but...I hoped that there would be more "pyscho" humor here than there is. I find a lot of this boring as shit. Am I alone? Do people really care about bashing Tori and Courtney and Poe? Is that all there is? There sure is a lot of it. Thanks for the book recommendations though. G ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 22:21:06 EDT From: LiveThruThisVow@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: flaunting the goods In a message dated 5/4/01 7:44:02 PM Central Daylight Time, jandymo@hotmail.com writes: > heh heh heh...you rock...where is this at?? > We're gonna get rid of shitty ass Hard Rock Cafe here and start our Nuts business :) We actually have a bar/restaurant here called Dick's Last Resort and the waiters and waitresses let you raise hell in the place and they try and do that condom trick where they pull it over their head and blow it up... doesn't work too well though. ~*~ Love, love, is a verb, love is a doing word~ Massive Attack ~*~ Adventure, excitement, the Jedi craves not these things~ Silent Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 23:02:55 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Dallas Meet and greet MAY 11th, LA private AP concert 6/5 (tenative date) Dallas APs will have a weekend of Poe during EdgeFest and beyond! Poe and Mark will be in the studio with Jessie at 5PM on Friday. At 8PM it is off to an Edge Corporate party and the Texas APs are invited!!!!!! If you can be there let me know and I will give you the details. Need to know your name and the names of any guests you will be bringing ( if any.) I am working on Audio and video permissions, if you plan on taping let me know ( BUT you have to share with the rest of us!!!!) ANY APs that can be in LA on 6/5 , ( possible day before or after, but the 5th is the target date at this moment), Poe will be opening the rehearsal hall to APs and their guests ONLY for a final dress rehearsal before she joins Depeche Mode in Canada. Again, if you can be there Email me for details. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 00:06:30 -0300 From: "Tori Amos" Subject: Re: just me drooling Wow Angelina makes me go crazy lol damn anin't she hot?? - ------------------------------------ Make Unlimited phone calls from your PC to ANY phone in the World! http://www.eboom.com/free/ - ----- Original Message ----- From: monkeygrrl _ To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:42 PM Subject: NPR: just me drooling > > >...or Lara Croft makes a music video, we don't expect nor want >Tarkovsky. > >We want see babes, T&A, and not much else. > man, oh man...(sorry to jump subject, you all can get back to the hey pretty > stuff in a sec)U2's 'elevation' video will be out before too long and none > other than angelina jolie (as lara croft, of course) is in it. this might > be common knowledge by now tho. i felt the need to throw that in, to add to > the t&a talk. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:21:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Edie Sedgewick Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america [NPR, but list related] >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 06:53:57 -0700 >From: "Joel Schwartz" >Subject: RE: hey pretty video and the youth of america > >you write too much :) If you're going to tease about excess length (or in fact, if you're ever going to post a reply to a long post) it is a good idea to DELETE most of the letter to which you are replying. Just include what is pertinent to your reply. Please please, my friends, let us do this, as a service to the digest folks who have to spend their days scrolling past the HUGELY LONG quoted parts that they have already read. Twalen Fleety MonkeyMan Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 00:39:04 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Poe's band lineup Well fellow APs, here is the band lineup for the tour: On drums: Nate Morton Bass ( in the Toby Nordic tradition:) Sigue Sjursen Payote Cody doing what he does like no one else CAN! Dars Adkins Ken Burgomaster and, of course, MZD ( for most of the tour). Sorry if I messed up on any spelling, my writting was a mess! ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #176 ***********************************