From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #175 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Friday, May 4 2001 Volume 06 : Number 175 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: hey pretty, can we go somewhere else now?NPR [Fzanya@aol.com] Re: hey pretty, can we go somewhere else now?NPR [KrodKnid@aol.com] very NPR: Blade of the Immortal ["Lee Wang 444" ] "Hey Courtney" and mud wrestling the youth of today ["J.R. Jobe" ] Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america ["Stuart Kirschenbaum" ] Danke for the graphics ["KyL the Paladin" ] Re: "Hey Courtney" and mud wrestling the youth of today ["Chris Povie" ] Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america [Jen Ralston ] RE: Hey Pretty FULL VERSION!!!! [Sandra Guzman ] Re: NPR: flaunting the goods ["Robert A Darke" ] RE: angry-psychos-digest V6 #173 ["Notajunkie" ] Re: "Hey Courtney" and mud wrestling the youth of today ["J.R. Jobe" ] Re: HUGE POE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Poe has the WHOLE Depeche Mode Tour!! [] NPR: RE: flaunting the goods [Ed Hunsinger ] Re: NPR: RE: flaunting the goods ["monkeygrrl _" ] hooters [BluesyBear@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 01:43:42 EDT From: Fzanya@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty, can we go somewhere else now?NPR Actually, I think this is funny. In a couple of ways. Hm. << Damn, I know I am gonna get some flak for this one, but whotthehell: >> Two guys are at a coffee break at work and one of them says to the other: "You ever get so distracted around women you make an embarassing Freudian slip of the tongue. Why, just this morning I was getting bagels to bring to work and the girl in the bagel shop had such lovely breasts that I blurted out 'I need two boobs...er, bagels'. I was so embarassed." The second guy says: "Yeah, I know what you mean. Just this morning I was finishing breakfast and reading the paper. I meant to ask my wife for some more coffee and instead I said 'You ruined my life you f**king b**ch!' >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 02:11:09 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty, can we go somewhere else now?NPR In a message dated 5/4/2001 1:53:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, KrodKnid@aol.com writes: > > I love Freudian slips. They're KING. and yours was...beautiful. Exquisite. > > No > > other way to describe it...other than it was sort of like...perfect sex! > > xoxo, > > Fzanya > This was more fun than that joke though...and a whole lot sweeter too. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 23:20:46 -0700 From: "Lee Wang 444" Subject: very NPR: Blade of the Immortal Blade of the Immortal is a manga (Japanese comic) with gorgeous artwork, and I just bought the third volume. K, the thing is, I haven't read any of it before, and so should I wait to read the first two before plunging into #3? Lee "Do your dreams come true?" "I haven't had a nice dream for years." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 23:51:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.R. Jobe" Subject: "Hey Courtney" and mud wrestling the youth of today - ---Here's my "educated" thoughts on the "Hey Pretty" video. Although I really, really, really like the video(no really), I feel that videos like "Hey Pretty" which portray VIOLENT images such as mud wrestling send the wrong message to the JADED youth of today. This video, and others like it, can only lead to more VIOLENCE in our public schools. - ---Imagine how HORRIFIC this would be on a seemingly perfect day in YOUR TOWN. You, the mild mannered high school student, are sitting there minding your own business washing your car, wearing NEXT TO NOTHING(typical high school fashion), when suddenly it starts to rain. You rush back to school only to find that Courtney Love is waiting to KICK YOUR ASS because she found out that you listen to music other than her own. What else is there left to do? You have NO OTHER CHOICE but to BODYSLAM her into the MUD, all the while praying that she won't pull out a DIRTY HEROIN NEEDLE and STAB you in the EYE with it. And all of this because Poe had to include mud wrestling in her video. Whatsup wit dat?!?!?! *Replies discouraged*(Unless you REALLY want to.) - ---Jobe (uses capital letters to make words look IMPORTANT) P.S. In case any of you are wondering... yes, I REALLY dislike Courtney Love. But I love you psychos! And correct I haven't slept in about two days, finals week you know. Goodnight folks! And I wasn't kidding, I DO like the "Hey Pretty" video. Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 03:19:17 -0400 From: "Dean Morrison (PolishChick.com)" Subject: POE AIRPOWER!!! Up to 13 Modern rock... Poe on the radio is still climbing.... Hey Pretty, Poe is now#13 on Billboards Modern Rock up from 16 last week http://www.billboard.com/billboard/charts/airplay/modern.jsp and on Gavin up from 20 to 18 http://www.gavin.com/formats/charts/alt/chart.php Go Poe Go! Dean www.polishchick.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 00:33:01 -0700 (PDT) From: phil maier Subject: POE OPENING FOR DEPECHE MODE ON ENTIRE TOUR Yep, it's true! I went over to www.depechemode.com nd they said that she's opening up for them at the WHOLE tour! Good thing DM's my fave band and I got good seats... =) _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 04:21:16 EDT From: VR5SBloom@aol.com Subject: FS: Shoreline seats at cost OK I would like to start off with...Bay Area, it's ABOUT DAMN TIME!!! I got screwed over with the presale, and ended up with tickets that I didn't receive a confirmation for. Then I ended up with better seats for the regular sale, thanks to Erik I'll be right up front!! So now I'd like to get rid of the pre-sale tickets. They are for the Shoreline show, Saturday, August 4 at 8PM. Here are the seat numbers: Section 202 Row R seats 19 and 20 Section 204 Row I seats 9 and 10 I have the actual tickets already, so I just need a payment (no checks) and I'll send 'em...buyer can choose how they want the tickets to be delivered. Total for each pair was $115.50. - --Michele This message brought to you by shellE Productions and TicketBastard Open for trades! http://trade.shelle.org/ Got promos, bootlegs, or MP3s of your favorite artist? Feel guilty? Give 'em a tip at http://www.fairtunes.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 06:43:15 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: "Hey Courtney" and mud wrestling the youth of today In a message dated 5/4/2001 3:24:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, commissioner_jobe@yahoo.com writes: > ---Jobe (uses capital letters to make words look > IMPORTANT) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use THEM sometimes because friggin' AOL or smoe.org changes italics back to regular print when I want to use them for emphasis...and I don't want to use "quotes" because there is a different implication with them. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 10:55:58 -0000 From: "monkeygrrl _" Subject: NPR: flaunting the goods >like a lot of more enlightened persons (especially grrrls it seems) >have >towards stuff like "Hooters" and other such venues which denigrate >women >as sex objects. what?! you mean you don't go to hooters just for the buffalo wings?! you what? you mainly go to stare at the waitresses? well, i never... nah, i see nothing wrong with any such job (hooters crew, strippers, etc.) and don't find it degrading. these grrls chose this job, and are actually very much in control. boys tend to not be able to hold the tough guy act when there's some half naked grrl in front of him. so go ahead grrls, ask for the world while he's not thinking with the head on his shoulders and don't even feel bad about it...he'll probably gladly give it to you. k, i'm ready to hear the arguements on this. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 07:13:57 -0400 From: "Stuart Kirschenbaum" Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america There is a terrific tradition of lyrics as poetry within Folk, and by extension Folk Rock. I'll just throw out Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Paul Simon and Bruce Springsteen as examples of songwriters whose lyrics stand up as serious works of poetry. In High School we actually did study several of the above artist work as poetry. Does that mean all song lyrics are serious poetry? No, in fact song lyrics, like everything else are subject to Sturgeon's law (90% of everything is crap). As to your last point, I don't think the argument is over whether visual metaphor is a valid approach to a music video. I think the issue is whether the mud wrestling in particular is a good metaphor. Stuart - -- I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused - Elvis Costello It is > also true that much fine poetry has been set to music. But when is the last > time you heard of a song lyric being read aloud and presented as serious > poetry to an astute audience. I think not...heh, heh: > "It's been a hard days night, > and I've been working like a dog. > It's been a hard days night, > I should be sleeping... > ...like a log." > > or: > "That's the way > Uh huh uh huh > I like it" > (I am staying away from current songs to avoid pissing anyone off here) > > By themselves lyrics like this amount to childish dreck. But they are > nevertheless great SONGS because of the music and what is communicated by the > entire format. > Even a Poe song like Angry Johnny would be pretty mediocre as poetry. But > that music and that voice...it actually comes off as very deep when Poe sings > it. I think her namesake knew what he was talking about. > All this quibbling aside, you have still not presented me with any reason why > visual metaphor is to be considered unusable where music videos are concerned. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 04:38:18 -0700 (PDT) From: John H Subject: Re: not a virgin bashing - --- WardWorthy1@aol.com wrote: > > POE doesn't have ANY bad songs... > which is a REAL talent. > WW1 Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 07:38:23 -0400 From: "KyL the Paladin" Subject: Danke for the graphics Thanks to the folks that sent the graphics. They will be put to good use... Pax, KyL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 07:39:46 -0400 From: "Chris Povie" Subject: Re: "Hey Courtney" and mud wrestling the youth of today please lets stop, in our daily discourses, referring to "all the violence in the schools", or similar cliches. "All" the school violence that we're hearing about is hooey the press feels they need to "warn" America with. What, about 40 folks killed in "school violence" settings in the last 3 years? That DOES suck, and I can only guess what it would be liked to lose a friend/family member that way, but look: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html says 52 people killed this way since Feb 1996. That's about 10 people a year killed IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY due to school violence. Contrast that with NewYorkCity for , ahhh, 8 months. Schools are safe. Don't believe the hype. CP - ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.R. Jobe" To: "Angry Psychos" Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 2:51 AM Subject: "Hey Courtney" and mud wrestling the youth of today > > ---Here's my "educated" thoughts on the "Hey Pretty" > video. Although I really, really, really like the > video(no really), I feel that videos like "Hey Pretty" > which portray VIOLENT images such as mud wrestling > send the wrong message to the JADED youth of today. > This video, and others like it, can only lead to more > VIOLENCE in our public schools. > > ---Imagine how HORRIFIC this would be on a seemingly > perfect day in YOUR TOWN. You, the mild mannered high > school student, are sitting there minding your own > business washing your car, wearing NEXT TO > NOTHING(typical high school fashion), when suddenly it > starts to rain. You rush back to school only to find > that Courtney Love is waiting to KICK YOUR ASS because > she found out that you listen to music other than her > own. What else is there left to do? You have NO > OTHER CHOICE but to BODYSLAM her into the MUD, all the > while praying that she won't pull out a DIRTY HEROIN > NEEDLE and STAB you in the EYE with it. And all of > this because Poe had to include mud wrestling in her > video. Whatsup wit dat?!?!?! *Replies > discouraged*(Unless you REALLY want to.) > > ---Jobe (uses capital letters to make words look > IMPORTANT) > > P.S. In case any of you are wondering... yes, I REALLY > dislike Courtney Love. But I love you psychos! And > correct I haven't slept in about two days, finals week > you know. Goodnight folks! And I wasn't kidding, I > DO like the "Hey Pretty" video. > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 07:13:02 -0500 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: Fw: Fw: Mystery is Solved - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Moulliet" To: "Mo2" Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 4:24 AM Subject: Fwd: Fw: Mystery is Solved > > > Regarding job layoffs in the U.S. > > > > Joe Smith started the day early having set his alarm clock (MADE IN > JAPAN) > > for 6 a.m. While his coffeepot (MADE IN CHINA) was perking, he > shaved > with > > his > > electric razor (MADE IN HONG KONG). He put on a dress shirt (MADE > IN SRI > > LANKA), designer jeans (MADE IN SINGAPORE) and tennis shoes (MADE IN > > KOREA). > > After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet (MADE IN > INDIA) > he > > sat > > down with his calculator (MADE IN MEXICO) to see how much he could > spend > > today. After setting his watch (MADE IN TAIWAN) to the radio (MADE > > IN INDIA) he got in his car (MADE IN GERMANY) and continued his > search > for > > a good paying AMERICAN JOB. At the end of yet another discouraging > > and fruitless day, Joe decided to relax for a while. He put on his > sandals > > (MADE > > IN BRAZIL) poured himself a glass of wine (MADE IN FRANCE) and > turned on > > his TV (MADE IN INDONESIA), and then wondered why he can't find a > good > > paying > > job in.....AMERICA..... > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 05:55:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jen Ralston Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america i wrote: > > in hebrew, the word for song IS the word for poem. > > singers often put famous or contemporary poetry to > > music and this is what comprises much of the > > popular > > music there. (big snip) krodknid (hey, can i just call you "krod" for short?) wrote: > But when is the last > time you heard of a song lyric being read aloud and > presented as serious > poetry to an astute audience. uh, like i said, a lot of song lyrics are poems in israel and thus released in books of poetry so, all the time. but that's me. we aren't splitting historical hairs, these are differences between the music that we are both familiar with. israeli vs.--i'd say western pop but what does that include? so, english-speakers' music instead? anyone know how often the phenomenom i spoke of in israeli pop is utilized in other languages? and of course, when the poem is put to music there are often lines that are repeated for the sake of maintaining the musical composition (add a "yeah yeah yeah" and it's not less of a poem, just easier to sing is all) > All this quibbling aside, you have still not > presented me with any reason why > visual metaphor is to be considered unusable where > music videos are concerned. oh, i wasn't debating the use of visual metaphor in video. i was debating whether or not the mud wrestling was one in this case. i'm sorry i let you continue to mention instances of visual metaphor and not elaborate that i wasn't saying "no metaphors" earlier. sure, music videos CAN be artistic but i think to be a successful music video is on a lot of levels the same as being an auteur filmmaker during the hollywood studio system--you have a product to sell (a happy ending storyline then, a song and it's performer now) and restrictions imposed upon you by the producers/record company(censorship and the need to make the stars appeal to the audience, etc.) and you have to find ways to still make your individual vision seen and to possibly even subvert the message that the producers are forcing you to shove down the audiences throat without the producers noticing. in this case, i could go two ways with the video. either rolston just wanted poe to look really really good and he wanted to avoid putting her in a scene with mark to nip any of those nasty angelina jolie/brother comparisons in the bud before they start and this is what any one came up with given budget/set/time restrictions OR: someone actually conceived this video as you a metaphor for the vulgar, slimy underworld sex which johnny is rapping on about. the fact that there are so many other things that could have stood in for what johnny was saying (easiest of all, something at least involving heterosexual tension in an actual l.a. setting) but hey, "ride" = "car" = "f**k"...= "mud wrestling women"? i wanted something that was a complete syllogism--something i could remove "f**k" from and still see the connection with the story "car" and the song "ride". since i can't draw that metaphorical line in the sand from one concept to all the others, i still think seeing it as an intentional visual metaphor, that it fails. because on top of that whole muddled connection between story/song and what's on screen, how many people do you suppose that aren't familiar with the album or poe or the book would see this video and say "oh she's a clever artist--that mud wrestling is actually a metaphor" and make a mental note to check her out? i don't see that happening. a first impression reaction i think would go more like "this looks like everything else on mtv." and as i said before, on a negative note, this would turn off a potential fan like me (with a case of the ass, as you so aptly put it) or on a positive note, "hey, this is better than everything else because she's much hotter than britany spears." this just wasn't what i was ever hoping would be a positive first impression of poe. it's all funny because this dsicussion reminded me of some of my more ridiculous cinema studies classes where the level of visual metaphor that people were finding was so beyond "bad guys wear black" or "the white flowers represent peace" to the point that when harry caul, the protagonist in "the conversation" enters his girlfriend's apartment one night wearing a rain coat, the teacher posited that the coat represented a condom and his refusal to take it off (because he wasn't staying long) indicated his fear of intimacy. but you know, it's like, it was raining outside, he had a rain jacket on, he didn't want to stay so he kept his jacket on...you could stretch and say yeah, it makes sense to the mise en scene (the setting and the reality of the location) and maybe there is another level to the wardrobe decision as well. i can play that game, no problem. got good grades in classes like that. just got a case of the ass about this video i suppose. and i don't feel that it's deep enough to pick apart the levels of meaning. happy quatro de mayo everyone. Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:17:52 +0200 From: "Jorrit Harssema" Subject: RE: HUGE POE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Poe has the WHOLE Depeche Mode Tour!! > Thanks to KROQ the secret is out!!!! The contract for the second half of the > Depeche Mode tour will be signed next week. It was SUPPOSED to be a secret > till then. I just got permission from Poe to announce that she will be doing > the WHOLE Depeche Mode tour!!!! > I do not know about the European portion, but who cares!! :) I care!! She's more than welcome to support DM in Europe, but last week I heard DM would not be coming to Europe because they were too expensive - -( Let's hope they were wrong, and that they don't try to save money by removing support acts! Jorrit ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 06:53:57 -0700 From: "Joel Schwartz" Subject: RE: hey pretty video and the youth of america you write too much :) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Jen Ralston Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:55 AM To: KrodKnid@aol.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america i wrote: > > in hebrew, the word for song IS the word for poem. > > singers often put famous or contemporary poetry to > > music and this is what comprises much of the > > popular > > music there. (big snip) krodknid (hey, can i just call you "krod" for short?) wrote: > But when is the last > time you heard of a song lyric being read aloud and > presented as serious > poetry to an astute audience. uh, like i said, a lot of song lyrics are poems in israel and thus released in books of poetry so, all the time. but that's me. we aren't splitting historical hairs, these are differences between the music that we are both familiar with. israeli vs.--i'd say western pop but what does that include? so, english-speakers' music instead? anyone know how often the phenomenom i spoke of in israeli pop is utilized in other languages? and of course, when the poem is put to music there are often lines that are repeated for the sake of maintaining the musical composition (add a "yeah yeah yeah" and it's not less of a poem, just easier to sing is all) > All this quibbling aside, you have still not > presented me with any reason why > visual metaphor is to be considered unusable where > music videos are concerned. oh, i wasn't debating the use of visual metaphor in video. i was debating whether or not the mud wrestling was one in this case. i'm sorry i let you continue to mention instances of visual metaphor and not elaborate that i wasn't saying "no metaphors" earlier. sure, music videos CAN be artistic but i think to be a successful music video is on a lot of levels the same as being an auteur filmmaker during the hollywood studio system--you have a product to sell (a happy ending storyline then, a song and it's performer now) and restrictions imposed upon you by the producers/record company(censorship and the need to make the stars appeal to the audience, etc.) and you have to find ways to still make your individual vision seen and to possibly even subvert the message that the producers are forcing you to shove down the audiences throat without the producers noticing. in this case, i could go two ways with the video. either rolston just wanted poe to look really really good and he wanted to avoid putting her in a scene with mark to nip any of those nasty angelina jolie/brother comparisons in the bud before they start and this is what any one came up with given budget/set/time restrictions OR: someone actually conceived this video as you a metaphor for the vulgar, slimy underworld sex which johnny is rapping on about. the fact that there are so many other things that could have stood in for what johnny was saying (easiest of all, something at least involving heterosexual tension in an actual l.a. setting) but hey, "ride" = "car" = "f**k"...= "mud wrestling women"? i wanted something that was a complete syllogism--something i could remove "f**k" from and still see the connection with the story "car" and the song "ride". since i can't draw that metaphorical line in the sand from one concept to all the others, i still think seeing it as an intentional visual metaphor, that it fails. because on top of that whole muddled connection between story/song and what's on screen, how many people do you suppose that aren't familiar with the album or poe or the book would see this video and say "oh she's a clever artist--that mud wrestling is actually a metaphor" and make a mental note to check her out? i don't see that happening. a first impression reaction i think would go more like "this looks like everything else on mtv." and as i said before, on a negative note, this would turn off a potential fan like me (with a case of the ass, as you so aptly put it) or on a positive note, "hey, this is better than everything else because she's much hotter than britany spears." this just wasn't what i was ever hoping would be a positive first impression of poe. it's all funny because this dsicussion reminded me of some of my more ridiculous cinema studies classes where the level of visual metaphor that people were finding was so beyond "bad guys wear black" or "the white flowers represent peace" to the point that when harry caul, the protagonist in "the conversation" enters his girlfriend's apartment one night wearing a rain coat, the teacher posited that the coat represented a condom and his refusal to take it off (because he wasn't staying long) indicated his fear of intimacy. but you know, it's like, it was raining outside, he had a rain jacket on, he didn't want to stay so he kept his jacket on...you could stretch and say yeah, it makes sense to the mise en scene (the setting and the reality of the location) and maybe there is another level to the wardrobe decision as well. i can play that game, no problem. got good grades in classes like that. just got a case of the ass about this video i suppose. and i don't feel that it's deep enough to pick apart the levels of meaning. happy quatro de mayo everyone. Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:19:15 EDT From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori release date that can't be....tuesday is the only day albums are officially released as far as I know.... I'm almost positive there i sno other street dated.... Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:31:04 EDT From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: PR:DAMN JONES BEACH Does ANYOONENNNE know anything about Jones Beach? I can't remember who mentioned it but you really got my hopes up:) Sorry to keep asking the same questions but if ANYONE knows please tell me:) Willy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 06:41:05 -0700 (PDT) From: surveyboy@address.com Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #173 I don't post very often but I just felt like posting today. I think that its great the POE can open for a band like DM. Its great exposure and will most certianly increase sales and her popularity. But what about those of us who love POE but don't/can't pay the high price of tickets to go to a DM concert? I guess that I got spoiled a few years ago, on her last tour. I remember being able to be 10 away from her at Poemona california, and being able to shake her hand while she was on stage at cal state long beach. Then to top off those cool shows, I was able to go back with her, and a couple of other AP's to have her take a photo with me, and have them all(POE, Cameron, Darius, ect.) sign my Angry Psycho's hat(which she wore on stage!) I liked those kinda shows. I hope that she has some plans to eventually do some smaller shows so that all of HER fans can come and see her. I guess that I am just being selfish....... Suveyboy - --------------------------------------------------------------- Get Free Internet Access And WebEmail At http://www.address.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:13:45 -0700 From: "Robert A Darke" Subject: Re: NPR: flaunting the goods I went to hooters once. Just for kicks. It was entertaining to walk in to find a woman hoola-hooping. The hotdog I had wasn't all that great. And hell, I'm gay. So, I definately wasn't there to ogle the ladies. I think everyone should go to Hooters at least once. 8-) From: "monkeygrrl _" @smoe.org on 05/04/2001 10:55 AM GMT Please respond to monkeygrrl@poe.org Sent by: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org To: angry-psychos@smoe.org cc: Subject: NPR: flaunting the goods >like a lot of more enlightened persons (especially grrrls it seems) >have >towards stuff like "Hooters" and other such venues which denigrate >women >as sex objects. what?! you mean you don't go to hooters just for the buffalo wings?! you what? you mainly go to stare at the waitresses? well, i never... nah, i see nothing wrong with any such job (hooters crew, strippers, etc.) and don't find it degrading. these grrls chose this job, and are actually very much in control. boys tend to not be able to hold the tough guy act when there's some half naked grrl in front of him. so go ahead grrls, ask for the world while he's not thinking with the head on his shoulders and don't even feel bad about it...he'll probably gladly give it to you. k, i'm ready to hear the arguements on this. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:41:27 -0400 From: Sandra Guzman Subject: RE: Hey Pretty FULL VERSION!!!! OH YEAHHHHHH!! I REMEMBER LISTENING TO HER on THAT STATION ON MY WAY TO COACHELLA!!!! I was soo excited to hear the original version of it too!! WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! GO POE!!!!!!!!!!! i love poe i love poe i love poe Sandra-D - -----Original Message----- From: Prozackitty16@aol.com [mailto:Prozackitty16@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 7:11 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Hey Pretty FULL VERSION!!!! HEY CALI AP's!!! I was listening to M99.5 and they played Hey Pretty and then I was plesently surprised when they played it w/ the ORIGINAL lyrics!!! Cool...huh?!! ~Gypsy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:02:26 -0700 From: "Robert A Darke" Subject: Re: NPR: flaunting the goods Well, pick a date. 8-) It'd be nice to find another Poe fan. Heheh. I dated a guy once who said he liked Poe. Which made me happy. Then one night I played him "Haunted" he said "this is really disappointing. I would've thought it'd be a lot better... it kinda sucks." At that point, I knew it was not going to work. And loe & behold it didn't! 8-) Rob From: "monkeygrrl _" on 05/04/2001 03:46 PM GMT Please respond to monkeygrrl@poe.org To: Robert A Darke/AMER/AEFA/AEXP@AMEX cc: Subject: Re: NPR: flaunting the goods i think i need to marry you! i've told my sister for the longest time i'm gonna marry a gay boy - and here you are with all your good taste and good posts! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:24:07 -0400 From: "Notajunkie" Subject: RE: angry-psychos-digest V6 #173 You're not being selfish...Everybody wants the intimate dates again... The whole reason I don't want to go is because of the high ticket prices and large venue for a band I could care less about (DM)...She needs to do another club tour, I agree...one can only wish... BTW: It would be great if somehow she could play in Savannah, GA at the local music club here, (Velvet Elvis) They've had semi-large bands play their before (Catch 22, Flogging Molly) she'd def. draw the right crowd....some know the e-mail address to her booking agent? ;) "Overwhelmed with a deep repulsion for sights seen so commonly, now I have come to be a walking enmity, for humanity, the human blasphemy, I'll end the world tonight." --AFI "Smile" - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of surveyboy@address.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:41 AM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: angry-psychos-digest V6 #173 I don't post very often but I just felt like posting today. I think that its great the POE can open for a band like DM. Its great exposure and will most certianly increase sales and her popularity. But what about those of us who love POE but don't/can't pay the high price of tickets to go to a DM concert? I guess that I got spoiled a few years ago, on her last tour. I remember being able to be 10 away from her at Poemona california, and being able to shake her hand while she was on stage at cal state long beach. Then to top off those cool shows, I was able to go back with her, and a couple of other AP's to have her take a photo with me, and have them all(POE, Cameron, Darius, ect.) sign my Angry Psycho's hat(which she wore on stage!) I liked those kinda shows. I hope that she has some plans to eventually do some smaller shows so that all of HER fans can come and see her. I guess that I am just being selfish....... Suveyboy - --------------------------------------------------------------- Get Free Internet Access And WebEmail At http://www.address.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:00:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.R. Jobe" Subject: Re: "Hey Courtney" and mud wrestling the youth of today - ---AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!! IT WAS A GODDAMN JOKE!!!! If you would have read PAST the first paragraph before you hit the reply button, maybe you would have realized that. Did you really think I was blaming images of mud wrestling for the violence in schools?!?! Actually, in the first paragraph I was pretending to be exactly what you seem to be: an over-reacting fool who jumps to conclusions without all of the facts. - ---Jobe - --- Chris Povie wrote: > > please lets stop, in our daily discourses, referring > to "all the violence in > the schools", or similar cliches. > > "All" the school violence that we're hearing about > is hooey the press feels > they need to "warn" America with. > Schools are safe. > > Don't believe the hype. Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:18:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Melissa Rios Subject: [none] 1) Who you are? Melissa (2) Where you're from? Alabama (3) How old you are? 15 (4) Where you first heard Poe? on the radio (5) What other musicians do you listen to? Smashing Pumpkins, Beth Orton, A Perfect Circle, KoRn, Orgy,and Marvelous 3 (6) Any other interesting information you wish to share. if you turn a mop upside down and move the strings to the side so it looks like hair... well... thats what i look like! LOL! Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:20:44 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: HUGE POE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Poe has the WHOLE Depeche Mode Tour!! In a message dated 5/4/01 6:41:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Jorrit@poe.org writes: > > I do not know about the European portion, but who cares!! :) > I care!! She's more than welcome to support DM in Europe, but last week I > heard DM would not be coming to Europe because they were too expensive > -( Let's hope they were wrong, and that they don't try to save money by > removing support acts! > > Jorrit > > > You are so very right, and I am sorry!!! I did not even THINK about the European APs, I apologize to you!!! At www.pollstar.com they list 32 European dates from August thru October, I have a call in to find out if Poe is sigened for them as well and as soon as I hear back I will let you know. Mark was not sure. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 13:35:28 -0400 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: NPR: RE: flaunting the goods I'm curious now.. It seems that I'm finding more women that aren't adverse to Hooters and strip clubs. My girlfriend took me to my first strip club experience, and every subsequent one(including one for her birthday..). We were also able to bring along another female friend with very little objection. Hell, I even know a 30something year old female that'll go to strip clubs. I'm not sure what this means, but my hunch is that more women (or perhaps the ones I hang out with) are understanding of this sort of profession? Is this true? girls? ps: I will disagree with the "ask for the world" statement.. Poor tactics of communication in a relationship result in the degradation of the relationship itself. Or in other words, if ya don't talk right, it won't work right. (Ed has learned much more about communication in relationships in the past year and a half.. hehe) Ed Hunsinger ed@poe.org AIM: ied33i ICQ: 15667748 http://ed.hunsinger.org http://www.screamradio.net http://listen.to/wdub - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of monkeygrrl _ Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 6:56 AM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: NPR: flaunting the goods >like a lot of more enlightened persons (especially grrrls it seems) >have >towards stuff like "Hooters" and other such venues which denigrate >women >as sex objects. what?! you mean you don't go to hooters just for the buffalo wings?! you what? you mainly go to stare at the waitresses? well, i never... nah, i see nothing wrong with any such job (hooters crew, strippers, etc.) and don't find it degrading. these grrls chose this job, and are actually very much in control. boys tend to not be able to hold the tough guy act when there's some half naked grrl in front of him. so go ahead grrls, ask for the world while he's not thinking with the head on his shoulders and don't even feel bad about it...he'll probably gladly give it to you. k, i'm ready to hear the arguements on this. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 18:12:01 -0000 From: "monkeygrrl _" Subject: Re: NPR: RE: flaunting the goods >I'm curious now.. It seems that I'm finding more women that aren't > >adverse to Hooters and strip clubs. i think this just means that society is finally (very slowly tho) coming to accept the gay, lesbian, bisexual lifestyle. it's no longer this freakish thing that's whispered about. while not every grrl that goes to a strip club falls into the above categories, i think there is a bit of curiosity. maybe once they get there, they realize, 'nope, i don't dig grrls.' fine and dandy, now they know, they're curiosity has been satisfied. on the other hand, maybe such a field trip was validation for certain feelings. i could be completely talking out of some other orafice other than my mouth, but this is just what i know. maybe totally straight grrls just go for the music and excellent cuisine? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:29:20 EDT From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: hooters Aren't hooters known for their wings?:) ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #175 ***********************************