From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #174 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Friday, May 4 2001 Volume 06 : Number 174 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Hey Pretty FULL VERSION!!!! [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: hey pretty, can we go somewhere else now?NPR [KrodKnid@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 00:44:08 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Hey Pretty FULL VERSION!!!! In a message dated 5/3/2001 10:39:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Finedragonfly7@aol.com writes: > Thanks awesome... i think the public needs to hear that version to get the > true apprecation for poe and her incredible voice.... > > I hope they play it around here, i may have to start bugging the station > here..... > > *Anna* > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > They are, I believe, playing both versions around Cincinnati...but the > surprising thing is that the Haunted song that is huge in these parts is > "Wild". I am talking about the full version too, not the edited down radio > version. Something in that song that college kids just go crazy for. Man I > hope she plays Bogart's again when ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 00:45:30 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america In a message dated 5/3/2001 11:33:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jensound@yahoo.com writes: > like, duh. but videos are commercials for songs. > that's what their purpose is, right? advertising a > song and the personality performing it? > ****************************************************** Maybe that is the role they are most often reduced to, but it doesn't preclude their being used for artistic purposes:-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 00:51:30 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america In a message dated 5/3/2001 11:33:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jensound@yahoo.com writes: > > You seem to have a case of the ass against > > the "idea" of > > mud-wrestling and the slimy stigma attached to it. > > i don't understand the above sentence. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hehehe..."a case of the ass" is a term my twin brother picked up in the Green Berets. It refers to a "pet peeve"...something that sticks in your craw, gets your goat, pisses you off, etc. It seems to me as if you might just have a negative reaction to mud-wrestling itself, like a lot of more enlightened persons (especially grrrls it seems) have towards stuff like "Hooters" and other such venues which denigrate women as sex objects. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 01:13:18 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty video and the youth of america In a message dated 5/3/2001 11:33:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jensound@yahoo.com writes: > interesting. so that's e.a.'s opinion. he didn't > invent the genre. alternately, for reasons too warped > to mention, i have found myself enmeshed in the > cultural lives of israelis here in new york city and > in hebrew, the word for song IS the word for poem. > singers often put famous or contemporary poetry to > music and this is what comprises much of the popular > music there. so we just keep finding more > differences. guess we were bound to feel differently > about the video. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Edgar A.Poe was certainly an estimable student of the song form as well as the poem...something of an expert I would say. It is quite true that poetry is often referred to as "song"...by the Elizabethans, for one, who even called Shakespeare "the bard". A bard is something of a minstrel who intones poetry to musical accompanyment. Homer was such, among others. It is also true that much fine poetry has been set to music. But when is the last time you heard of a song lyric being read aloud and presented as serious poetry to an astute audience. I think not...heh, heh: "It's been a hard days night, and I've been working like a dog. It's been a hard days night, I should be sleeping... ...like a log." or: "That's the way Uh huh uh huh I like it" (I am staying away from current songs to avoid pissing anyone off here) By themselves lyrics like this amount to childish dreck. But they are nevertheless great SONGS because of the music and what is communicated by the entire format. Even a Poe song like Angry Johnny would be pretty mediocre as poetry. But that music and that voice...it actually comes off as very deep when Poe sings it. I think her namesake knew what he was talking about. All this quibbling aside, you have still not presented me with any reason why visual metaphor is to be considered unusable where music videos are concerned. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 01:24:31 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: hey pretty, can we go somewhere else now?NPR In a message dated 5/3/2001 11:54:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Fzanya@aol.com writes: > omifriggin god i proof read everything and i didn't > even catch that! how freudian of me. and perfect > proof to my point that no one read what i posted very > carefully. except you of course. :) >> > > I love Freudian slips. They're KING. and yours was...beautiful. Exquisite. > No > other way to describe it...other than it was sort of like...perfect sex! > xoxo, > Fzanya > *************************** > Damn, I know I am gonna get some flak for this one, but whotthehell: > Two guys are at a coffee break at work and one of them says to the other: "You ever get so distracted around women you make an embarassing Freudian slip of the tongue. Why, just this morning I was getting bagels to bring to work and the girl in the bagel shop had such lovely breasts that I blurted out 'I need two boobs...er, bagels'. I was so embarassed." The second guy says: "Yeah, I know what you mean. Just this morning I was finishing breakfast and reading the paper. I meant to ask my wife for some more coffee and instead I said 'You ruined my life you f**king b**ch!' " ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #174 ***********************************