From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #139 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Saturday, April 14 2001 Volume 06 : Number 139 Today's Subjects: ----------------- PR: sheryl crow's sweet child o'mine [Oasage@aol.com] poe tour with depeche mode? [phil maier ] Hey Pretty thoughts [George Neal ] Re: Poe Videos ["Dean Morrison (PolishChick.com)" ] Re: [SweetJessiMay@aol.com] Re: Strap on your seat belts and come see the new Hey Pretty Video.... [] Poe Bounces Back!!! ["sp00k@poe.org" ] loveline on napster ["Flowerburn." ] hey pretty remix [Caleb Munro ] guess what!!!!! [StarGazerLily429@aol.com] Fw: US apology to China ["Bad Bender" ] plays well with others ["monkeygrrl66 _" ] Re: loveline on napster [JSens70632@aol.com] REQUEST Hey Pretty on MTV2 [EXej@aol.com] Online Exclusive MZD writing [EXej@aol.com] Re: I'm sorry that I like women!!!!!! [joanna rocco-elias ] Screen Printing Designs [LivTheMdns@aol.com] Re: A TRULY ANGRY PSYCHO! [BluesyBear@aol.com] Re: poe tour with depeche mode? [BluesyBear@aol.com] PR:POE tour panic! [BluesyBear@aol.com] Re: guess a [Dan98908@aol.com] Re: PR:POE tour panic! ["monkeygrrl66 _" ] YAAAYYYYY....Hey Pretty was just on MTV 2. [Benjamin uong Subject: poe tour with depeche mode? Poe touring with Depeche Mode would be an absolute dream come true for me since DM is my absolute all-time favorite band and Poe is very close behind them. This would kinda go with what Poe said on Loveline, how she was in contact with a couple bands to try to hatch out a tour, but couldn't reveal who yet. DM has been similarly silent about their opening act, so it could be possible. I realllllly hope this rumor turns out to be true though. I'll go to all 3 shows in northern California! (and have no money left over) _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:41:09 -0400 From: George Neal Subject: Hey Pretty thoughts - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Please bear with me, its late. I think I can understand the thought process behind the choice of the drive by version on popular radio. Consider that you have a great deal of tension in the narrative voice, with an implicit role reversal in the content (even consider how often you actually hear a female refer to a male with the word pretty while maintaining an erotic intonation, not nearly so prevalent as with a male using the word, and then there is the use of possessive phrasing...). Add to that the blatant sexual content, brought even more clearly to the forefront in this version (sex sells) and you have a song that speaks to the masses with its drama. I think the society we live in seeks out drama in entertainment to gain some vicarious excitement and that by providing this audio journey into a world most people only admit to dreaming about in their bedrooms, Poe has found a way to attract the mass radio listeners (inhale, continue). I hope the masses are not so deadened by modern pop that they require such dramatics from every song. My personal views come into play there, as I feel we are a society that is sensually over-stimulated, mentally under-whelmed and experience shallow. Wow, I just read that paragraph. I know what I wanted to say, but... anyway, to sum up: I really do think this song (both versions) is a masterpiece of audio artistry. Last thing, the video. Well, any person with a sexual attraction to women is going to have exactly the reaction you would expect. I know I did. But as far as supporting the song (and there are a number of way to do so, I am sure I don't know a third of them) I do not feel that the video did the song justice. I think it simplified the work, sort of like a bad frame can do to visual still art. I know some concession have to made for the attention span of an ADD culture, but still. Case in point, the video (IMHO) sexually objectifies Poe (I am prepared to take heat for that statement) which is typical for females in videos these days, while the song lyrics have the female objectifying the male. Maybe the decision was made not to beat the public over the head with it, but I really wonder to what extent it was discussed at all. Just some late night thoughts. Harlequin - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.0 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOtYS5Wpxyh7gF0NcEQKMxQCfePxi9Evi1K5U3rhHQMjXLfwjpWgAoKoM L5OAeny2Dm8WepHZFSj2QaCg =nMSO - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:43:28 -0400 From: "Dean Morrison (PolishChick.com)" Subject: Re: Poe Videos Joel, Links here for videos on launch.com http://www.polishchick.com/multimedia/ and on the atlantic servers http://media.atlantic-records.com/media/Poe/poe_hello/poe_hello.rm.ram http://media.atlantic-records.com/media/Poe/poe_trigger_happy/poe_trigger_ha ppy_jack.rm.ram http://media.atlantic-records.com/media/Poe/poe_angry_johnny/poe_angry_johnn y.rm.ram btw please click this link and add a vote for Poe http://www.whfs.com/specialHFS/make_a_request.html Dean > > Wow, just watched the Hey Pretty video......Jesus that's hot. Anyone know > where I can download her other videos? > Joel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:20:42 EDT From: SweetJessiMay@aol.com Subject: Re: all of these cali psychos..i feel so left out! Are there any psychos from Long Island out there?.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:24:00 EDT From: SweetJessiMay@aol.com Subject: Re: Strap on your seat belts and come see the new Hey Pretty Video.... ok, im a little confused, what are you guys talking about? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:51:14 -0400 From: "sp00k@poe.org" Subject: Poe Bounces Back!!! OK either the rest of the list bought POE, or the public is catching on, POE is currently uP 1/4 get yours while its still LOW Http://Hsx.Com now @ $4.12 uP 1/4 suDDenly from yesterdays low of $3.73 sp00k etc ... - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- U CAN Talk 2 A PsYcHo http://Poe.Org A Poe FAN Page http://PolishChick.Com 3 INDIE Rock Grrlz http://EmberSwift.Com Hear What I hEAR ? http://wber.monroe.edu/live.ram 80K Feed ? http://wber.monroe.edu/live2.ram ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:09:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Flowerburn." Subject: loveline on napster Last night for some reason i had the urge to get my butt out of the shower and turn on the radio (and record), and sure enough loveline had just started at that very moment and guess who was the guest.(that part you know) Well anyways i got the whole session on tape and will soon put it on napster (commercial free) for those who missed it. - -Brianna "...truth whose mother is history, who is the rival of time, depository of deeds, witness of the past, example and lesson to the present, and warning to the future." -House of leaves Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:42:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Caleb Munro Subject: hey pretty remix im just sorta sad that this is the song they chose to really push, because i LOVE the original hey pretty soo much more, and all my friends do too. poe has so many great songs, and while its nice shes working with her brother, people are like 'um whats this guy talking for? this song sucks', or at least thats what ive been told. caleb ===== "If Jennifer Lopez could write songs like Fiona Apple, she wouldn't have to spend so many hours at the gym." -- Garbage's SHIRLEY MANSON "Marxism is the opium of the intellectuals." -- Edmund Wilson Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:11:50 EDT From: StarGazerLily429@aol.com Subject: guess what!!!!! ok i was listening to y100 a station in philly last night and every thursday they have a top 25 requested countdown. well our little poe was #7. i was so excited. they have also been playing her alot more. also i was singing hey pretty in my english class the other day and the girl next to me heard me and said "i love that song, but i dont know who its by do you know?" my response "of course! its poe!" ahh i was so excited. yay poe!!!!!! well ok that was my outburst of enthusiasm for the day! go poe go! sarah katherine ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:21:57 -0500 From: "Bad Bender" Subject: Fw: US apology to China - ----- Original Message -----=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! = Mail. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------- [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of chinese2.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 19:22:09 -0000 From: "monkeygrrl66 _" Subject: plays well with others has anyone heard anything about poe collaborating with delerium? i caught the tail end of that on the radio. dunno if they'll repeat the info or not... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:49:21 EDT From: JSens70632@aol.com Subject: Re: loveline on napster you are awesome!!! you can probably tell i missed the show....but i just want to thank you! yay! you rock!! jessica ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:14:05 EDT From: EXej@aol.com Subject: REQUEST Hey Pretty on MTV2 Since Dan's announcement that the video would be in rotation on MTV2 this weekend, I've kept my tv tuned to the channel. Haven't had any POE sightings yet, but I do have info for the rest of the masses Starting at 1AM eastern, MTV2 is starting their first Fan Appreciation Weekend of 2001. They are going to fit in as many requests as possible during one weekend. So if enough of us request the track, it's definite to fit into the weekend somewhere. Also, use the same link to request Hey Pretty for airplay during MTV2's request hour at 11am and 11pm every Monday through Thursday on MTV2. http://www.mtv.com/mtv/tubescan/mtv2/requests.tin - ---- This public service announcement brought to you by ShellE Productions www.shelle.org Check there for official Poe discography info, The Idiot's Guide to House of Leaves and much more! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:19:44 EDT From: EXej@aol.com Subject: Online Exclusive MZD writing The publishers of Bookforum Magazine have given me permission to post a column written by Mark Z. Danielewski, brother of Poe, verse speaker of Hey Pretty (Drive By Mix) and videographer of the live Hello video. Oh wait, didn't he write a book or two too? Please do not copy the article or post it elsewhere. http://houseofleaves.4t.com The article is a riddle written by MZD, featured in the Winter 2000 issue of Bookforum Magazine. (Special thanks to MZD for bringing the article to my attention and Andrew @ Bookforum for supplying the article and giving permission for me to post it on the site) When POE tour dates are announced, I'll be sure to update the site with those as well. I'll do as much coverage as I can, similar to the Border's tour last fall. - ---- This public service announcement brought to you by ShellE Productions www.shelle.org Check there for official Poe discography info, The Idiot's Guide to House of Leaves and much more! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 13:56:26 -0700 (PDT) From: joanna rocco-elias Subject: Re: I'm sorry that I like women!!!!!! - --- AjaxMaximas@aol.com wrote: > > Welcome, > If you don't like long e-mails then skip this > one. I have read over > the past few days that some of you have a personal > bitch about the way your > partner treats you. I have found it ironic that > some of the people on here > degrade men the way they do. I mean, WTF, are all > of you so God like that > you're the example the rest of us should follow? If > so, I know I don't want > to be apart of your shallow gathering. > I read that one of you believed that their > brother was the example to > follow for the description of all men. The sadness > I felt from this is > beyond words. > I know that my lifes past trials and > tribulations are beyound what > most of you could comprehend. I say this without > any hatred or disposition, > but come on, do some of you think that you are so > gifted in the reality of > relationships that you are an authority on the > subject? > Isn't it funny how Lesbians and Gay men think > that everyone looks down > on them? I know at first I did. Now I could really > care less what your > sexual orientation is. > I know I have been through so much that I > have given up on any kind of > relationship. I gather that most of the people on > here are young. I mean > from some of the responses I know that this is true. > But think about it, do > you really think that all men are out to get laid > and not into some kind of > substance? > I know I would prefer someone that is > intelligent that I could talk > about anything with. Who in there right mind would > want someone that they > could just sleep with and find satisfaction? > I guess I'm just getting old. I know I must > be, because I have given > up on trying. Too often have I found people to be > plastic and full of shit. > How many of you have just gone to clubs to get laid? > I find all you that > have to be fucked up beyond words. > Too bad that I have become so cynical. I > only wish that the day would > come that I could find someone to have and hold. > Boy, isn't that a > statement? I know most of you want someone to break > in two. You know > what..........that sucks. If all of you think that > every guy wants some girl > because she looks like a million bucks you're full > of shit. I know I would > love to have some who could talk to me about some of > the things I interested > in. Hell, I would love to have someone that just > enjoyed being with me > because she wanted too. > I guess I have ranted too long. I have so > much to say, but I know > most of you don't want to hear it. I remember > reading a book that was > written long ago. It was by an author named John > Milton. The book was > called "Paradise Lost." There was a line that said, > "Well done, well have > you fought the better fight." When Satan incited > his followers to revolt, > one angel refused to follow him, despite all threats > and arguments. That > quote was the congratulations he received for > remaining loyal to the forces > of good. > I guess What I'm trying to say is that I am > dismayed by all the > disappointments I have seen, but I am still hoping > to someday find the > happiness that almost everyone seeks. I am now only > standing back from the > shadows watching everything trying to determine > which path to take. > Ajax Just a short reply (sorry, turned into a long one!) to say, Ajax and whoever else may read this..I never noticed the way people cry about relationships here ..I usually only look at the poerealated mail. However, your title was catchy and so, I must say that when I read your "long" email I was happy to see/hear that there are still people out there who, although they've had a maddening bumby-jerky-rollercoaster ride so far in their life, are still not completely disheartened/hopeless towards life's ability to blossom into a calmer/more peaceful and enjoyable paddleboat-on-smooth waters type ride~! (not without a change of path/different dance/Effort, of course. I'm getting older too and have found that keeping the faith is the only way to go~ If people would just understand you cant get blood from a rock, maybe they'd make better choices ..I really think some people are just afraid of success and that's what keeps'em staying miserable. For all you Le'Misarables/plastic/fullOcrap ppl out there ..journel writing does wonders if you cant afford therepy~ And Ajax, Im glad your standing back ..we can only make a difference one person at a time!! jroc0 ===== Jroc01girl@yahoo.com ~lilb00~ Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:40:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek Gregory Subject: Re: I'm sorry that I like women!!!!!! ricco-elias If you have such a problem then you should just shut up and become... maybe you will like it love black_dove_january == I got a mind for a wicked design . . . _____________________________________________________________ Visit http://www.beliefnet.com to get a Web site with a personalized domain and Web-based e-mail. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:40:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek Gregory Subject: Re: I'm sorry that I like women!!!!!! ricco-elias If you have such a problem women then you should just shut up and become gay... maybe you will like it love black_dove_january == I got a mind for a wicked design . . . _____________________________________________________________ Visit http://www.beliefnet.com to get a Web site with a personalized domain and Web-based e-mail. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:24:08 -0700 (PDT) From: joann Subject: Re: I'm sorry that I like women!!!!!! I think you may have interpreted the e-mail incorrectly. btw, I do apologize for the the lengthy quote i sent along with my reply. I will b more careful in the future :> ===== Jroc01girl@yahoo.com ~lilb00~ Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:10:16 EDT From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Screen Printing Designs If you haven't been there recently, then you've missed the updates. http://www.polishchick.com/munecas/screenshirt/index.html Feel free to drop me a line on your favorite(s) there and waht you'd like to see on a shirt... and how you'd like to see it. - -Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:26:38 EDT From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: Re: A TRULY ANGRY PSYCHO! POEpulation! I love it! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:37:59 EDT From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: Re: poe tour with depeche mode? ..if she's touring with depeche mode, (i'm not thrilled about that)..it's gonna be really impossible to get tickets!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:54:57 EDT From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: PR:POE tour panic! I know I may be silly for "bugging out" about this... but the tickets for the DM tour go on sale very soon...and will we know before then if Poe is definitely opening? I dont want to get screwed out of a ticket and/or good seats. If Poe does open for them that is amazing for her because they are a huge band and she will get all the publicity she deserves..so that's definitely a plus. Anyway..whoever finds out info pleaassse let us know asap. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:08:27 EDT From: Dan98908@aol.com Subject: Re: guess a That is REALLY great news!!!! Y100 is one of the stations reporting a decreased amount of interest in the song!! It is one that could use some extra attention from all of us to keep her going strong ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 03:37:20 -0000 From: "monkeygrrl66 _" Subject: Re: PR:POE tour panic! i heard on the radio today that it was basically down to snake river conspiracy & poe for the dm tour. and members of dm said that they all really love 'haunted.' of course, this isn't concrete yet and tickets go on sale next friday... >I know I may be silly for "bugging out" about this... but the tickets for >the >DM tour go on sale very soon...and will we know before then if Poe is >definitely opening? I dont want to get screwed out of a ticket and/or good >seats. If Poe does open for them that is amazing for her because they are >a >huge band and she will get all the publicity she deserves..so that's >definitely a plus. Anyway..whoever finds out info pleaassse let us know >asap. >Jill _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 21:17:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin uong Subject: YAAAYYYYY....Hey Pretty was just on MTV 2. Hey, all you psychos. I just saw Hey Pretty on MTV 2 like 2 mins ago. It was way better than the one I saw in realplayer format. Fuck....my VCR woundn't record...that piece of shit...i'm so angry. anyhow, It was really awesome to see her on TV, though. Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:02:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.R. Jobe" Subject: Re: poe tour with depeche mode... (Dallas) - ---Well I guess I'm going to Dallas on July 17. Cool! That's 11 days before my birthday! Any Dallas psychos know how the seating or whatever is usually set up there in the Smirnoff music center, I mean, is it going to be seats or general admission? If it's general admission, cool. But if it's going to be seats I would prefer to sit by some pretty cool psychos. I doubt that I can make it down to Dallas on the 21st when the tickets go on sale, so if anybody can pick me up a ticket, I will gladly send them my money before then. - ---Jobe > 7/17 - Dallas, TX - Smirnoff Music Center - On Sale > Apr. 21 Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #139 ***********************************