From: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org (angry-psychos-digest) To: angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Subject: angry-psychos-digest V6 #128 Reply-To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Sender: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-angry-psychos-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "angry-psychos-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. angry-psychos-digest Friday, April 6 2001 Volume 06 : Number 128 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Britney/mb20 ["David Furlong" ] Re: Britney/mb20 ["David Furlong" ] Re: Britney/mb20 [KoriG@aol.com] NPR: work out music [Sharonda220@aol.com] PR:TOO BAD [BluesyBear@aol.com] Re: 99X interview PLEASE! [BluesyBear@aol.com] Re: PR:poe thieves! [KoriG@aol.com] Re: just a little beauty rant [~~Amanda~~ ] POE Commercials on 99X ["KyL the Paladin" ] NPR: new jersey [Jennifer Ralston ] NPR: lots of ap mail [Jennifer Ralston ] RE: AP Texas stuff & other stuff too [lance.kinney@amd.com] RE: NPR: my britney rant.... [Erik Schalburg ] RE: another possible angry psycho design [Shelly Mohnkern ] RE: NPR: my britney rant [Michaela Drapes ] No TRL Please!!!!!! [Kluless615@aol.com] Re: PR:poe thieves! [LivTheMdns@aol.com] Re: No TRL Please!!!!!! [Derek Gregory ] Re: No TRL Please!!!!!! [Derek Gregory ] NPR: Women of Strength ["Ms Huneybee" ] Britney [EMOKidsSmell@aol.com] RE: I am now from France [Sandra Guzman ] RE: I am now from France [Sandra Guzman ] Re: NPR: work out music [EMOKidsSmell@aol.com] Re: No TRL Please!!!!!! [EMOKidsSmell@aol.com] Please try to remember to NPR if it is NPR... [Dax ] RE: I am now from France [Sandra Guzman ] KPR: trl ["monkeygrrl66 _" ] RE: just a little beauty rant ["Joel Schwartz" ] Re: No TRL Please!!!!!! [KoriG@aol.com] Re: NPR: lots of ap mail [Mel1021152@aol.com] NPR Re: just a little beauty rant (the 20's, etc) [~~Amanda~~ ] Angry Psychos website ["Brian Brantley" ] Re: NPR Re: just a little beauty rant (the 20's, etc) ["Brian Brantley" <] NPR: just a little beauty rant [Shelly Mohnkern ] Re: Hey Pretty Lyrics [Kluless615@aol.com] RE: 99X interview PLEASE! [Ed Hunsinger ] Reminder Poe interview tonight... ["Dean Morrison (PolishChick.com)" Subject: Re: Britney/mb20 Just because Rob Thomas writes other peoples songs doesn't mean those are good songs. Just because Kyle Cook can play the guitar very well doesn't mean he can write nor does it mean that he chooses to play good (by this I mean challenging/interesting) songs. As for Britney . . . I really don't find her offensive but she should be shot (along with a bunch of record execs) just to ebb the flow of bland, formulaic crap being churned out. Make room for Poe. David E. Furlong >From: KoriG@aol.com >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Britney/mb20 >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:54:39 EDT > > >In a message dated 4/5/01 1:39:20 PM, eschalburg@venetica.com writes: > > >Oooo... Matchbox 20. Now there are some musical geniuses. Not. > > > > > >Britney is a performer and has never claimed otherwise. > >Now children. Let's play nice. > >And as for mb20... Rob Thomas is writing music for many other artists of >all >fields, along with that of mb20, and guitarist Kyle Cook was long >considered >almost a child prodigy because of his rapid proficiency and advancement in >studying the guitar at some highly acclaimed music institutes..... so >there. >:P > >(Forgive me. I just can't stand for slaggin' on my boys, particularly when >facts somewhat prove otherwise. : ) > >KORi _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 05:39:52 -0000 From: "David Furlong" Subject: Re: Britney/mb20 Just because Rob Thomas writes other peoples songs doesn't mean those are good songs. Just because Kyle Cook can play the guitar very well doesn't mean he can write nor does it mean that he chooses to play good (by this I mean challenging/interesting) songs. As for Britney . . . I really don't find her offensive but she should be shot (along with a bunch of record execs) just to ebb the flow of bland, formulaic crap being churned out. Make room for Poe. David E. Furlong >From: KoriG@aol.com >To: angry-psychos@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Britney/mb20 >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:54:39 EDT > > >In a message dated 4/5/01 1:39:20 PM, eschalburg@venetica.com writes: > > >Oooo... Matchbox 20. Now there are some musical geniuses. Not. > > > > > >Britney is a performer and has never claimed otherwise. > >Now children. Let's play nice. > >And as for mb20... Rob Thomas is writing music for many other artists of >all >fields, along with that of mb20, and guitarist Kyle Cook was long >considered >almost a child prodigy because of his rapid proficiency and advancement in >studying the guitar at some highly acclaimed music institutes..... so >there. >:P > >(Forgive me. I just can't stand for slaggin' on my boys, particularly when >facts somewhat prove otherwise. : ) > >KORi _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:02:50 EDT From: KoriG@aol.com Subject: Re: Britney/mb20 In a message dated 4/6/01 1:58:59 AM, garbonzo_@hotmail.com writes: >Just because Rob Thomas writes other peoples songs doesn't mean those are >good songs. Oh yeah. Some of the most reveared and respected songwriters of all time (such as Willie Nelson) tend to seek out the work of incompetent people. Happens all the time. (NOT. : ) KORi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:06:36 EDT From: Sharonda220@aol.com Subject: NPR: work out music i wish looking at Britney made me go to Bally....now if my bally had a dance class then maybe i would be inspired.... but no...they don't have much of anything.... so i will now have to fake my own death to get out of my contract with bally without any problems..... but i have to say, one of my top albums to listen to when i'm boring myself to death on a machine (why don't they have any good classes?!?!?!) is the downward spiral by NIN. there's nothing better than hearing "hey pig....yeah you... hey pig piggy pig pig pig" to get you motivated. hehe. and "nothing can stop me now!" and i just want to do anything i can to move with the music even if its pounding the treadmill. and i have to agree with kris... britney doesn't have any more talent than a lot of people out there... guess she's just "lucky" - -shari (can't wait until the towels are dry so she can put her clothes in the dryer and go to bed so they will be nice and dry for her to wear to work in the morning) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:23:53 EDT From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: PR:TOO BAD It's too bad for the rest of us that live on the other side of the country... If Poe does wind up performing will someone please videotape it!!!! Oh...I found my reissue version of haunted at coconuts...just to let you guys know if there is one buy you. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:26:25 EDT From: BluesyBear@aol.com Subject: Re: 99X interview PLEASE! YES if anyone did record that interview please let us eastcoast AP'S in on it!!!!! Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 04:54:34 EDT From: KoriG@aol.com Subject: Re: PR:poe thieves! In a message dated 4/3/01 11:42:07 PM, BluesyBear@aol.com writes: >WEll...TODAY we caught two kids..a guy and a girl..and one of the DAMN >cd's they were trying to steal was the one and only copy of haunted we >have >in the store! I was so angry!! Poe deserves all the record sales in the >world more than anyone. Out of respect for my favorite artists I would >never >steal from them..especially since they aren't selling 7 million cds like >"britney" and their record companies give them shit for it. Well, I'd be a tad flattered, if only for half a minute. "Wow... somebody risked arrest just to get MY CD! You like me.... You really like me!" : ) KORi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 08:00:53 -0400 From: ~~Amanda~~ Subject: Re: just a little beauty rant Has anyone ever read The Beauty Myth? I only really started it. See, in the olden days, there were general concepts of beauty, but nothing concrete. Women were full-bodied, healthy-like, nice teeth.....anything that said, "hey, I can raise your kids." BUT, the most attractive part of a woman was her skills -- could she sew? Cook? Help you manage your business? Even with upper crust women: How much is she worth? Does she have a 'title'? Powerful friends? Etc. Then women got out of the house, started working. Men got scared. Society needed a way to keep people in line, so they used the media now available and started promoting "beauty." It made women insecure, and insecure women fall more quickly, are more compliant. Think about it. If you're not secure in your looks because you don't match what society says "beauty" is, are you going to be as assertive in the business world? Probably not, because people judge us as much on our "beauty" as they do on our skills now. Anyway, from what I've read of it, its a decent book. Puts the self-esteen back in a woman by helping her laugh at "beauty." ~~Amanda~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:48:36 -0400 From: "KyL the Paladin" Subject: POE Commercials on 99X We started running Wherehouse Music commercials for Haunted this week. They feature "Hey Pretty" as the bed and talk about how POE created the disc. Way cool! Also I just received one of 5 99X Big Day Out 5th year anniversary posters in my hot little hands yesterday. What makes this import... it features a 5x7 picture of POE as one of the 25 best moments from the last five years. Sorry to gush... I have been begging management for the poster since we printed them in September. Pax, KyL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 08:58:09 -0400 From: Jennifer Ralston Subject: NPR: new jersey welcome to the angry psychos, inger. which little dump of a city in new jersey would you be in? i live in cranford, south of elizabeth. have a nice day. - -jen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 09:06:23 -0400 From: Jennifer Ralston Subject: NPR: lots of ap mail if anyone is feeling the crush of npr emails coming in, there have been several discussions of this in the past but i'll say it again because i don't mind repeating myself. repeating myself. ha. you can filter to remove "npr" in the header or have them sent to a special folder where you can browse the topics and decide what you want to read. or you can switch to the digest, which is one long email with everything that was sent in the course of the day. so you'll get 7 emails per week from the ap family. and scroll til your little hearts incontent. that's my method. good morning. - -jen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:21:40 -0500 From: lance.kinney@amd.com Subject: RE: AP Texas stuff & other stuff too Yep, Galveston is on the gulf. It is a port town. I don't know much about it, but if a hurricane hits Texas, it's gonna hit Galveston. And south Texas weather is very hot and VERY humid. So, it's a sauna in the summer. Other than that, it is a spring break Mecca - so there is tons of fun down there, and in the summer, the beaches are pretty busy... At least, that's what I hear ;-D Plus, you can't miss becoming a Texan... You'll never go back! LanceKitty > -----Original Message----- > From: WardWorthy1@aol.com [mailto:WardWorthy1@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:19 PM > To: mdrapes@hoovers.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org > Subject: Re: AP Texas stuff & other stuff too > > > > OK Texans! > Please tell me what is up with a place called Galveston? > Is it nice? > I have a job interview there to relocate from Philadelphia region. > the warm weather sounds great to me, also I understand > Galveston is on the > gulf? > anybody been/live there? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:22:48 -0400 From: Erik Schalburg Subject: RE: NPR: my britney rant.... Speak of the devil... I saw Nelly Furtado last weekend in Atlanta at some free concert in a park. Puts on a good show. - -----Original Message----- From: devilbird [mailto:devilbird@gimmix.f2s.com] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 12:55 AM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: NPR: my britney rant.... LiveThruThisVow@aol.com wrote: >The only reason she wears those outrageous outfits and has a "great body" is >because she wants to the clothes to attract attention and hide her inability to sing. I actually like her singing a lot better than this Nelly Furtado everyone's raving about...I just find Britney's songs a little bland for my tastes. devilbird ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:31:24 -0400 From: Shelly Mohnkern Subject: RE: another possible angry psycho design I love this design on black. Would need XXL... but would happily pay the difference. Let me know if you go anywhere with these... Shelly ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:01:23 -0500 From: "Anfrey Cheng" Subject: Re: lots of ap mail yeah, sorry to add to the npr but i've resorted to selecting 50 or so emails and clicking on the delete button. it works fine for me :) maybe i should set up a filter though... peace, anf - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jennifer Ralston To: ; ; Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 08:06 Subject: NPR: lots of ap mail > > if anyone is feeling the crush of npr emails coming in, there have been several discussions of this in the past but i'll say it again because i don't mind repeating myself. repeating > myself. ha. you can filter to remove "npr" in the header or have them sent to a special folder where you can browse the topics and decide what you want to read. or you can switch to > the digest, which is one long email with everything that was sent in the course of the day. so you'll get 7 emails per week from the ap family. and scroll til your little hearts > incontent. that's my method. > > good morning. > > -jen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:20:55 -0500 From: Michaela Drapes Subject: RE: NPR: my britney rant LiveThruThisVow@aol.com wrote: >>The only reason she wears those outrageous outfits and has a "great body" is >>because she wants to the clothes to attract attention and hide her inability to sing. Devilbird replied: >I actually like her singing a lot better than this Nelly Furtado everyone's >raving about...I just find Britney's songs a little bland for my tastes. Woah, I think Nelly Furtado has a pretty good voice, actually. I've been talking her up to people for months, and they were like, "Who?" -- now she's everywhere. Murphy's Law of Music: there's always got to be a trendy Canadian chanteuse around. And, I heard some music critic once on Britney -- he noticed (as had I) -- that Brit basically has the same vocal range as Michael Jackson. She's got limited ability vocally, but she knows how to use it. BTW, a tip for Shakira and Nelly Furtado fans: check out Julieta Venegas. I heard her on KCRW the other day, and she's brilliant!! - -m.r.d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:32:52 EDT From: Kluless615@aol.com Subject: No TRL Please!!!!!! Poe on TRL? For the love of god, please don't do it. Thats just plain wrong... Not to mention we're not a big enough force to make a difference on that show anyway so at this point it would just be a waste of time and energy. Just wait, if they push the Hey Pretty mix enough, we might be seeing it on TRL soon enough and then people will be bitching about the teenyboppers flocking to our happy little group. ~Shannon~ PS- Hey Mel, I just read your post about buying Dave the Poe CD for his birthday... I'm not sure if we've met, this is Shannon at Fowl. Did you go on either of the last 2 New York Bus Trips? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:50:49 EDT From: LivTheMdns@aol.com Subject: Re: PR:poe thieves! In a message dated 4/6/01 5:13:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, KoriG@aol.com writes: > Well, I'd be a tad flattered, if only for half a minute. "Wow... somebody > risked arrest just to get MY CD! You like me.... You really like me!" : ) > >Well, I'd be a tad flattered, if only for half a minute. "Wow... somebody >risked arrest just to get MY CD! You like me.... You really like me!" : ) And you have the right to remain silent... - -Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:02:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek Gregory Subject: Re: No TRL Please!!!!!! There is no way Poe could ever get on TRL because one that isnt really her scene considering she isnt a corp. tized sellout or a teen pop star and when i talk about poe to must people in my town they usually say ? the dead guy , or who ??? or sometimes they laugh . . . damn those inbred hill billys I LIVE IN TENNESSEE I CANT HELP IT , IM THE ONLY NORMAL ONE love me TA TA Derek == I got a mind for a wicked design . . . _____________________________________________________________ Visit http://www.beliefnet.com to get a Web site with a personalized domain and Web-based e-mail. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:06:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek Gregory Subject: Re: No TRL Please!!!!!! hey everyone PLEASE STOP talking about brit frickin spears I dont really care for her so thus i'd rather not hear about her Derek BLACK_DOVE_JANUARY == I got a mind for a wicked design . . . _____________________________________________________________ Visit http://www.beliefnet.com to get a Web site with a personalized domain and Web-based e-mail. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 09:09:07 -0700 From: "Ms Huneybee" Subject: NPR: Women of Strength I read this and thought of all us Women of Strength (POE specifically) Hope everyone has a great weekend!!! **************** A STRONG WOMAN VERSUS A WOMAN OF STRENGTH A strong woman works out every day to keep her body in shape ... but a woman of strength builds relationships to keep her soul in shape. A strong woman isn't afraid of anything ... but a woman of strength shows courage in the midst of her fear. A strong woman won't let anyone get the best of her ... but a woman of strength gives the best of herself to everyone. A strong woman makes mistakes and avoids the same in the future ...a woman of strength realizes life's mistakes can also be unexpected blessings and capitalizes on them. A strong woman wears a look of confidence on her face ... but a woman of strength wears grace. A strong woman has faith that she is strong enough for the journey... but a woman of strength has faith that it is in the journey that she will become strong. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Return-path: Received: from dns1.windermere.com (unverified [207.66.248.207]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:59:52 -0700 Received: from PACKARD.windermere.com [64.74.10.23] by dns1.windermere.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A5153AFB00DA; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 16:04:37 -0700 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010403165342.00a18050@windermere.com> X-Sender: arnson@windermere.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 16:53:45 -0700 To: arnson@bossig.com From: Nancy Arnson Subject: Fwd: Fw: (no subject) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >From: "Cathy Blakely" >To: "Diane L. Jolin" , > "Nancy Blanchard" , > "Nancy Arnson" , > "Kim Vandergeesen" , > "Tommy Dalatowski" >Subject: Fw: (no subject) >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:40:21 -0700 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 >X-SMTP-HELO: oemcomputer >X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: cblakely@micron.net >X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: cboi16p45.boi.micron.net [209.19.158.46] >X-RCPT-TO: > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; ; ; >; ; ; >; ; ; >; ; ; ; >; ; >Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 7:29 PM >Subject: (no subject) > > > > A STRONG WOMAN VERSUS A WOMAN OF STRENGTH > > > > A strong woman works out every day to keep her body in shape ... but a > > woman > > > > of strength builds relationships to keep her soul in shape. > > > > A strong woman isn't afraid of anything ... but a woman of strength > > shows > > courage in the midst of her fear. > > > > A strong woman won't let anyone get the best of her ... but a woman of > > strength gives the best of herself to everyone. > > > > A strong woman makes mistakes and avoids the same in the future ...a > > woman > > of strength realizes life's mistakes can also be unexpected blessings > > and > > capitalizes on them. > > > > A strong woman wears a look of confidence on her face ... but a > > woman of strength wears grace. > > > > A strong woman has faith that she is strong enough for the journey... > > but > > a woman of strength has faith that it is in the journey that she will > > become strong. > > > > > >* Pass this on to a GREAT WOMAN...I just did * > > > > Nancy C. Arnson Windermere/K-2 Realty ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:09:52 EDT From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com Subject: Britney In a message dated 4/5/01 4:21:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Krisygrin5@aol.com writes: << telling them that by having large breasts and a pretty face is all you need to woo over the people of America. >> Duh! That IS all you need....Hasn't this been scientifically proven? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:18:03 -0700 From: Sandra Guzman Subject: RE: I am now from France YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! It's 1800.520.1067 or email them f#$k@#s :) requests@kroq.com...:) Pardon my french but I REALLLLY WANT TO CRACK THAT BABY! Thanks you guys!! Sandra-D - -----Original Message----- From: KoriG@aol.com [mailto:KoriG@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:09 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: I am now from France In a message dated 4/5/01 7:21:57 PM, KrodKnid@aol.com writes: >> I already called in 10 times today...its 12pm here in L.A....(I think >Jed >> knows its me)...he responded today by saying "Sure, ...Sandra." CRAP >MY DISGUISE ISN"T GOOD ENOUGH!!!! > >> Any suggestions? Give us the request line phone number again, Sandra. I think a few of us could handle making at least ONE long distance call to take all of 20 seconds to request a song. KORi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:22:17 -0700 From: Sandra Guzman Subject: RE: I am now from France DEAL! I Will definately change my wording around.... BTW I like the Latina Girl accent....i'll do that one today! (Hey homey..can you play that highna PoE. WHAT... you don't know?!! No I dont tink sooooo! You beta play ha...or i'm gonna get my boyfriend RAUL to kick you A#$!! Dats betta...Thank youuuuuuuuu!) How's that?? Sandra-D - -----Original Message----- From: KoriG@aol.com [mailto:KoriG@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:31 PM To: angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: I am now from France In a message dated 4/5/01 9:41:06 PM, WardWorthy1@aol.com writes: >try holding your nose when calling in your request! >M Uh, think they will pick up on that. : ) Another tip for requesting: Make sure you are changing your phrasing around. "I want to hear 'Hey Pretty' by Poe," "Please play that new song by Poe", or even feign to be looking for info: "Can you tell me who does that song ? It's a female singing and a male speaking, I think it's called 'Hey Pretty', or something like that....". You really have to create a barrelful of characters. KORi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:25:57 EDT From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: work out music I work out to a lot of techno too, like scooter or anabolic frolic. Less than jake is also a lot of fun to work out to. I try to switch cds every day so I don't associate a certain song with how many minutes I have left to work out. My bally's has sooooo many classes I can't even get them straight! From pilates to yoga to tai bo. What's wrong with your Bally's? Megan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:32:40 EDT From: EMOKidsSmell@aol.com Subject: Re: No TRL Please!!!!!! In a message dated 4/6/01 8:57:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Kluless615@aol.com writes: << Just wait, if they push the Hey Pretty mix enough, we might be seeing it on TRL soon enough and then people will be bitching about the teenyboppers flocking to our happy little group. >> Too bad we all know this is true! As much as we want success for POE, I think we get pretty anal when it comes down to who listens to her. We don't want these little kids who don't really appreciate and understand her. I think we have a somewhat sophisticated group in that we all can appreciate art in some way or another, not just because Carson (swoon) tells us its cool. All the TRL kids would do is make a few dumb thoughtless posts and then quit the list when POE is retired from TRL (because she WOULD be retired, not fade away) Megan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:36:57 -0700 From: Dax Subject: Please try to remember to NPR if it is NPR... I know it is easy to forget, but it is a big help, and if you are replying to something NPR which wasn't titled as such, if you could add NPR to the title that would also COMPLETELY ROCK! Thanks alot! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:55:13 -0700 From: Sandra Guzman Subject: RE: I am now from France I'm guessing its ok....never been there..:) HOLDING MY NOSE>>>>>>GOOOOOD ONE.....i'll try that one too!! Thanks! Sandra-D - -----Original Message----- From: WardWorthy1@aol.com [mailto:WardWorthy1@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 6:28 PM To: S.Guzman@ia-global.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: I am now from France try holding your nose when calling in your request! M How is France anyhow? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 17:11:58 -0000 From: "monkeygrrl66 _" Subject: KPR: trl i actually agree with you on this. while it would be a lot of exposure for poe and would sell more of her albums (which would equal more sales for mark), i kinda wanna be stingy with her! i certainly don't want a bunch of n*sync & o-town (yes, i do watch trl enough to know who the latest tiger beat cover teens are) on this list. i mean, i'm sure jc and justin want to marry all of them too, but i don't wanna hear about it. maybe i'm just being a witch about this (no comment from you lancekitty)? monkeygrrl _________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:15:42 -0700 From: "Joel Schwartz" Subject: RE: just a little beauty rant Okay, I'm sorry amanda, but that has got to be one of the biggest peices of feminist gobbeldegook I've heard in a while. In America, women weren't beginning to get out of the house in any significant number until the 60's. Yet all the way back to the 20's you have Clara Bow, "The It Girl" as the pinnacle of beauty. You can find countless advertisments for beauty creams and diet aids all the way back to the 20's and 30's too. Let's not forget all the movie stars of the forties and fifties who were thin and beautiful even by today's standards such as Maralyn, Mae West, Rita Hayworth. Hell, go back to the Renasance. Do you not think that those many paintings of men and women were not some form of media promoting the ideal of beauty? It has nothing to do with misogyny. Why would men paint or film quintessential images of women? Because they hate them and want them to be brought down? Yeah right. Joel - -----Original Message----- Then women got out of the house, started working. Men got scared. Society needed a way to keep people in line, so they used the media now available and started promoting "beauty." It made women insecure, and insecure women fall more quickly, are more compliant. Think about it. If you're not secure in your looks because you don't match what society says "beauty" is, are you going to be as assertive in the business world? Probably not, because people judge us as much on our "beauty" as they do on our skills now. ~~Amanda~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:44:45 EDT From: KoriG@aol.com Subject: Re: No TRL Please!!!!!! In a message dated 4/6/01 11:57:23 AM, Kluless615@aol.com writes: >Poe on TRL? For the love of god, please don't do it. Thats just plain >wrong... Not to mention we're not a big enough force to make a difference >on >that show anyway so at this point it would just be a waste of time and >energy. I think that we should by no means make TRL our only focus for requests, but in no way should it totally be passed by. TRL matters to MTV big time. That's their baby, the standard by which they judge so much of their programming. (I know, scary thought... but inevitable fact.) It truly means something when a vid receives a substantial number of votes for TRL, even if it's not enough to get them on the air. So, though I don't feel this should be our central focus, please don't totally disregard it. KORi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:56:42 EDT From: Mel1021152@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR: lots of ap mail Well, I thank you for repeating repeating yourself... :-) I'm pretty new here, so I actually hadn't heard that there was such a thing as a digest/daily email for the AP list...coolio... I know for me that would help A LOT. I enjoy reading all the emails...but, lol, it's awfully time consuming. Esp. since, for the most part, I don't work around computers during the day so I end up finding myself trying to "catch up" with the hundreds of emails in my *very rare* spare time...lol... ANYWAY. Sorry to ask what's probably a dumb-ass question...but how does one go about switching to the "digest" form??? - -mel- "be alive--or step aside" -LC www.laughingcolors.com In a message dated Fri, 6 Apr 2001 9:35:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jennifer Ralston writes: << if anyone is feeling the crush of npr emails coming in, there have been several discussions of this in the past but i'll say it again because i don't mind repeating myself. repeating myself. ha. you can filter to remove "npr" in the header or have them sent to a special folder where you can browse the topics and decide what you want to read. or you can switch to the digest, which is one long email with everything that was sent in the course of the day. so you'll get 7 emails per week from the ap family. and scroll til your little hearts incontent. that's my method. good morning. - -jen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:08:05 -0400 From: ~~Amanda~~ Subject: NPR Re: just a little beauty rant (the 20's, etc) > Okay, I'm sorry amanda, but that has got to be one of the biggest peices of > feminist gobbeldegook I've heard in a while. In America, women weren't > beginning to get out of the house in any significant number until the 60's. > Yet all the way back to the 20's you have Clara Bow, "The It Girl" as the > pinnacle of beauty. You can find countless advertisments for beauty creams > and diet aids all the way back to the 20's and 30's too. Ehm...right. The 20's. The flappers. When women started dressing like men, becoming more aggressive. Women who found themselves finally OWNING their sexuality. The 20's were when women started becoming independant. >Let's not forget > all the movie stars of the forties and fifties who were thin and beautiful > even by today's standards such as Maralyn, Mae West, Rita Hayworth. The 40's were when lesbians first started 'coming out.' The 40's were when women went to work. Rosie the Riveter, remember? And the 50's...well, women were 'back in their place.' What better way to keep them there than tto promote "beauty" as the loving housewife, who vaccuums wearing pearls and high heels? >Hell, go > back to the Renasance. Do you not think that those many paintings of men and > women were not some form of media promoting the ideal of beauty? Not always. I've done a bit of art history for that time period. True, a lot of pictures showed concepts of what beauty was, but not an ideal. Women were plump -- because it showed they had money to eat. And it wasn't shoved in their faces like we have today (and even back in the 20's, etc) with magazines, movies, TV, etc, etc, etc. The majority of the people couldn't even READ! They were already in their place, so you didn't need society to enforce much of anything, other than the usual 'dont steal, dont kill.' There were "erotic" pictures of naked women painted.....but most of the women looked almost entirely different from each other. Their only likeness to each other was natural, healthy curves. Some were overtly obese, some were just slightly plump. There was no "ideal." Just a concept. It has > Why would men paint or film quintessential > images of women? Because they hate them and want them to be brought down? > Yeah right. Men paint and film women to get off on it. Why? Because they're men. But if all they wanted was to paint and film, they'd keep it private. They want to promote their own idea of beauty, so they shove it in everyone's face like gospel. And perhaps I didn't make myself clear -- I didn't mean "society" to be JUST men. Women got scared too. They got scared of leaving the home, leaving the family, of being "out there" and not at home, protected by the husband. Women allowed themselves to fall into the beauty trap. Men too, nowadays. Men are becoming more obsessed with how they look compared to the ideal. ~~Amanda~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:25:44 -0400 From: "RICHARD I MIDGETTE" Subject: NPR - LOTS OF MAIL I'm tired of hearing about all the complaining about so much mail. When = you signed up you were warned of the excess of mail and the ability to = change to digest form. If you think you get a lot of NPR mail, just think about me. In about = 10 days, I'll be leaving Florida to relocate back home in New York. = I'll be without my computer for about 3 days, possible 4. Just imagine = all the mail I'll be going through. I figure by the time I finish, I'll have another 200 new messages. So, please stop this useless complaining. It's really of waste of space = in ppls inboxes. [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ball.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:32:28 -0400 From: "Brian Brantley" Subject: Angry Psychos website Who is hosting angry psychos.com? I've got a couple of questions about the Pshyco Ward. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:36:16 -0400 From: "Brian Brantley" Subject: Re: NPR Re: just a little beauty rant (the 20's, etc) >Women allowed themselves to fall into the beauty trap. Men too, >nowadays. Men are becoming more obsessed with how they look compared to the >ideal. Whats wrong with wanting to look good?? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:32:29 -0400 From: Shelly Mohnkern Subject: NPR: just a little beauty rant The "Beauty Industries" were alive and operating in the early 1800's. Cosmetics and other beauty aids were being professionally produced long before then. Every age has had it's ideals of fashion and female (and male) beauty. It is neither a modern phenomena or fear related. Different cultures had different ideals. The ladies of Colonial America used to get fashion magazines from France, so that they could emulate the fashions and styles there. Women throughout the ages did horrid things to themselves in order to conform to societal beauty standards... in some cultures the women allowed themselves to become obesely rotund, while at the same time across an ocean the women were lacing themselves daily into steel cages designed to compress their organs into a more shapely form... Spanish girls had boards strapped to their chests everyday so that they would not develop "unsightly" breasts... imagine *that* by today's standards... Chinese women misshaped their feet so that they could not walk.. to show that they were too rich to walk on their own feet. Today some women starve themselves to fit into a size 8 or less. Sad really... I have news for them. I get as much or more attention from those of the opposite sex, and I am a size 20. I am healthy, strong, and pretty enough for me... I hope more people find themselves in the same basket soon... Shelly http://www.ravenswings.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:42:07 EDT From: Kluless615@aol.com Subject: Re: Hey Pretty Lyrics In a message dated 4/4/01 4:48:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-blackat@ukans.edu writes: > >Anyone know where I can find the lyrics to Hey Pretty (Drive-By Remix). I > >think i've seen them once before on polishchick, but now it's very > difficult > >to find them. Try House of Leaves. ;-) ~Shannon~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 16:02:28 -0400 From: Ed Hunsinger Subject: RE: 99X interview PLEASE! If anyone has it, we'll toss it up on poe.navelsex.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org [mailto:owner-angry-psychos@smoe.org]On Behalf Of BluesyBear@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 2:26 AM To: VR5SBloom@aol.com; angry-psychos@smoe.org Subject: Re: 99X interview PLEASE! YES if anyone did record that interview please let us eastcoast AP'S in on it!!!!! Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:28:28 -0400 From: "Dean Morrison (PolishChick.com)" Subject: Reminder Poe interview tonight... Listen all weekend, Listen live online via the magic of the internet tune in on Friday afternoon at 5:45 CST for Jessie's interview of Poe and Mark! http://www.kdge.com/ Dean "recorder all set up" Morrison www.see-the-house.com www.poefordummies.com www.polishchick.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:29:56 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Re: just a little beauty rant (the 20's, etc) In a message dated 4/6/2001 3:41:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ladyrose@where.org writes: > The 20's were when women started becoming independant. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Actually, if you want to stretch it a bit...as far as recorded history > goes, women started getting independent with Psappha (Sappho) about 600 > B.C. She was the first "great woman poet", probably the founder of women's > literature, and also one of the greatest poets of any gender in > history...she was the first to embrace "modern", rather than religious, > themes...she was also a strongly "independent woman". You might also > consider the great Celtic and Teutonic tribes that once wandered freely > around Europe...the women even went into battle alongside their men and > fought like tigresses...and yet they (both genders) embraced a strictly > monogamous marital state. And then there were the Amazons, who routinely > cut off one breast to keep it out of the way of the bowstring when they > were shooting their notoriously deadly arrows in battle...and what about > other great women like Thais, Cleopatra, Nephertiti, et al? How about > Chopin's lover, George Sand (a pseudonym of course, "he" was a "she")...so ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:34:46 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: NPR Re: just a little beauty rant (the 20's, etc) In a message dated 4/6/2001 3:41:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ladyrose@where.org writes: > Again, this goes back to Psappha in 600 B.C. She lived on the island of Lesbos, a Greek island off the Turkish coast. Her infamous indulgences with other females are where we get the term "lesbian" in the first place. The Ancient Greeks were definitely "out of the closet". This is something that happens over and over throughout history as homosexuals are alternately condemned and then shown tolerance. It is the s**ts for them to be treatred with such cruel ambivalence, but, whotthehell, people suck. ------------------------------ End of angry-psychos-digest V6 #128 ***********************************